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Quote from: Polkeins on November 21, 2023, 03:51:19 AM

it looks like it was a clean penalty, the foot play was visible in the movement and on the replay, but the referee didn't give a clear penalty. I think that the goal was not to deprive Ukraine, but rather to let Italy go out, because the 3rd time without any European tournaments would be too much for the Italian national team.
Ukraine will still have a chance to qualify for Euro 2024 through the knockout matches and today all the pairs of selection will be clear, and Italy will finally qualify directly and will defend the title at the Euros.

I agree that Italy needed access to the playoffs, and discussing refereeing mistakes after the match will not change anything. Although I am of the same opinion, there was an obvious penalty in that episode. The knockout matches are a chance, but this is another difficult stage to go through and we don’t know which opponent and which referee will be for Ukraine in the next match...

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I would not give the penalty. There is some minor contact, but Mudryk's really pushing for it to be given and is throwing himself unnaturally.
I'm not saying it isn't, I've seen them given for less, it's just my opinion that it's too soft.

What bothers me though is that they didn't even check VAR. OK, the referee is close, he's got a good view, but it's a moment of huge significance - at least go and see - make sure you've made the right call.

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Quote from: makishart on November 20, 2023, 09:39:33 PM

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What a robbery for Italy vs Ukraine.

Was a clear penalty IMHO. What do you think

I agree with you on that. It was a clear penalty for Ukraine there. Because as far as I can see there is a contact with Mudryk's foot. I don't know how they still continue to make mistakes in the presence of VAR technology. If they examined the incident in detail they were going to realize that the final decision should have been the opposite.

Maybe Ukraine could have eliminated Italy there but a bad decision brought their end instead. Sad

I can't say Italy were great in terms of performance here but I must admit that Chiesa and Donnarumma were really impressive.

Yeah it's penalty. That's clean. The referee was blind. The referee is clear having an agenda to rob ukraine from beating italy to be qualified for euro 2024. I will not believe if there was no agenda owned by UEFA as said but aleksander ceferin on his statement called a disaster if italy won't qualify for the euro 2024.
Ukrainee deserves a penalty. Mudryk has been doing so much for his club.

it looks like it was a clean penalty, the foot play was visible in the movement and on the replay, but the referee didn't give a clear penalty. I think that the goal was not to deprive Ukraine, but rather to let Italy go out, because the 3rd time without any European tournaments would be too much for the Italian national team.
Ukraine will still have a chance to qualify for Euro 2024 through the knockout matches and today all the pairs of selection will be clear, and Italy will finally qualify directly and will defend the title at the Euros.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 20, 2023, 10:38:03 PM

Quote from: makishart on November 20, 2023, 09:39:33 PM

Yeah it's penalty. That's clean. The referee was blind. The referee is clear having an agenda to rob ukraine from beating italy to be qualified for euro 2024. I will not believe if there was no agenda owned by UEFA as said but aleksander ceferin on his statement called a disaster if italy won't qualify for the euro 2024. Ukrainee deserves a penalty. Mudryk has been doing so much for his club.

Anyway, Italy has now qualified for the main tournament, and with 14 point Ukraine has a good chance of qualifying through the playoffs. It would have been a big upset if Italy had failed to qualify, because they are the defending champions. We need to note down the fighting performance from Ukraine. Despite being placed in a very tough group along with England and Italy, they almost managed to qualify through the direct route. BTW, did anyone watched the North Macedonia vs England match? England were held to 1-1 draw by North Macedonia.

The Ukraine-Italy match was a very critical match and Ukraine could not get 3 points from this match. Although Italy was effective throughout the match, the match ended 0-0. Ukraine will now try to qualify from the Playoffs, but their efforts certainly deserve praise. I think this score is very good in this group.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 20, 2023, 10:38:03 PM

Quote from: makishart on November 20, 2023, 09:39:33 PM

Yeah it's penalty. That's clean. The referee was blind. The referee is clear having an agenda to rob ukraine from beating italy to be qualified for euro 2024. I will not believe if there was no agenda owned by UEFA as said but aleksander ceferin on his statement called a disaster if italy won't qualify for the euro 2024. Ukrainee deserves a penalty. Mudryk has been doing so much for his club.

Anyway, Italy has now qualified for the main tournament, and with 14 point Ukraine has a good chance of qualifying through the playoffs. It would have been a big upset if Italy had failed to qualify, because they are the defending champions. We need to note down the fighting performance from Ukraine. Despite being placed in a very tough group along with England and Italy, they almost managed to qualify through the direct route. BTW, did anyone watched the North Macedonia vs England match? England were held to 1-1 draw by North Macedonia.

That match together with Albania were the biggest surprise results of the night.I know that these games were not relevant as both teams had already qualified but especially for England which has been playing a super beautiful football to be stopped by a draw from a much weaker team is truly the biggest surprise of the night.

We already have 20 teams qualified for the Euro and I think we are waiting 4 others through the play offs to make the 24 teams event as always or maybe we wait more through play offs as I am not sure of the format that they will be using this upcoming Euro tournament.

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Quote from: Bobrox on November 21, 2023, 12:53:44 AM

Finally Italy success qualified to UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany after getting one points against Ukraine although on Group C qualifier current standing have the same points but Italy manage head to head and goals difference than Ukraine. Its most crucial for the winner of UEFA Euro 2020 Italy have on bad position in qualifier round but unfortunately success get on place for qualifying to Euro 2024.

So far the national teams have been qualified to Euro 2024 and still have fewest group still one match left.

Germany as host
Spain
Scotland
France
England
Italy
Turkey
Albania
Czechia
Belgium
Austria
Hungary
Serbia
Denmark
Slovenia
Romania
Switzerland
Portugal
Slovakia

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These are qualifiers for Euro2024 which I'm itching to watch when the tournament finally kick-off next year. The coaches will prepare their players for the full competitive race and positive results becomes the only positive results. These countries have a possible chance of winning the Euro2024 tournament because they all have equal chances and there's no room to underestimate any team this season. Before they qualify for such good phase, winning have become a priority and possessing beneficial results that will aides a team to be in good form.

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Quote from: Essential10 on November 20, 2023, 11:22:14 PM

Greece will face France in Group B. With another win in the Euro qualifiers, France will look to finish the qualifying round at the top of the points table by winning all their group matches. France beat Gibraltar 14-0 in their last outing and top the group with seven wins from seven matches. France have scored the second most qualifying goals with 27, behind Portugal. Although Greece's qualification is very difficult to guarantee as they look to win their last match. Greece sit in third place ahead of their final group game, with Greece sitting in third place with 12 points, having won four of seven. France have won two of their last three matches against Greece. Greece can draw France 1-1 at home today.

Greece is indeed one of the strongest teams in Group B. But for now France is still the most difficult team to beat. Mbappe and his friends really have a fast attack pattern that always makes it difficult for the opponent's defense to overcome them. But in this match, Greece is indeed the host because the match will be held at Agia Sofia Stadium. But in the match against the Netherlands, which was also held at the Agia Sofia Stadium, we could see that Greece suffered defeat. So, in my opinion, in this match, Greece could suffer another defeat. But if you look at Greece's last meeting with France, actually at that time Greece also managed to make the French players quite overwhelmed. But unfortunately in that match one of the Greek players received a red card. So Greece played with 10 players in the match. And it was quite surprising because France was unable to add goals against Greece who only played with 10 players. It seems like it would be quite interesting to bet on Greece.

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Finally Italy success qualified to UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany after getting one points against Ukraine although on Group C qualifier current standing have the same points but Italy manage head to head and goals difference than Ukraine. Its most crucial for the winner of UEFA Euro 2020 Italy have on bad position in qualifier round but unfortunately success get on place for qualifying to Euro 2024.

So far the national teams have been qualified to Euro 2024 and still have fewest group still one match left.

Germany as host
Spain
Scotland
France
England
Italy
Turkey
Albania
Czechia
Belgium
Austria
Hungary
Serbia
Denmark
Slovenia
Romania
Switzerland
Portugal
Slovakia

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Greece will face France in Group B. With another win in the Euro qualifiers, France will look to finish the qualifying round at the top of the points table by winning all their group matches. France beat Gibraltar 14-0 in their last outing and top the group with seven wins from seven matches. France have scored the second most qualifying goals with 27, behind Portugal. Although Greece's qualification is very difficult to guarantee as they look to win their last match. Greece sit in third place ahead of their final group game, with Greece sitting in third place with 12 points, having won four of seven. France have won two of their last three matches against Greece. Greece can draw France 1-1 at home today.

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Quote from: makishart on November 20, 2023, 09:39:33 PM

Yeah it's penalty. That's clean. The referee was blind. The referee is clear having an agenda to rob ukraine from beating italy to be qualified for euro 2024. I will not believe if there was no agenda owned by UEFA as said but aleksander ceferin on his statement called a disaster if italy won't qualify for the euro 2024. Ukrainee deserves a penalty. Mudryk has been doing so much for his club.

Anyway, Italy has now qualified for the main tournament, and with 14 point Ukraine has a good chance of qualifying through the playoffs. It would have been a big upset if Italy had failed to qualify, because they are the defending champions. We need to note down the fighting performance from Ukraine. Despite being placed in a very tough group along with England and Italy, they almost managed to qualify through the direct route. BTW, did anyone watched the North Macedonia vs England match? England were held to 1-1 draw by North Macedonia.

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Iceland's match against Portugal ended with a score of 2-0 and Portugal won the match and completed their victory, but I saw that Iceland's defense was very tight, but because Portugal put up continuous resistance in the end, Portugal won the match with a score of 2-0 and I saw the mentality of the goalkeeper. Iceland was really tested in this match. but I think the Iceland goalkeeper is very good because they only conceded 2-0 against a strong team like Portugal. but unfortunately Cristiano Ronaldo didn't score, but the Portuguese players were very good in their collaborative play and Bruno Fernandes scored a goal in the 37th minute and in the second half Ricardo Horta scored a goal. I think Iceland's performance against Portugal was very good because the score was only 2-0 and I predicted 3-0 before the match.
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Quote from: jakdanyel on November 20, 2023, 07:29:31 PM

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What a robbery for Italy vs Ukraine.

Was a clear penalty IMHO. What do you think

I agree with you on that. It was a clear penalty for Ukraine there. Because as far as I can see there is a contact with Mudryk's foot. I don't know how they still continue to make mistakes in the presence of VAR technology. If they examined the incident in detail they were going to realize that the final decision should have been the opposite.

Maybe Ukraine could have eliminated Italy there but a bad decision brought their end instead. Sad

I can't say Italy were great in terms of performance here but I must admit that Chiesa and Donnarumma were really impressive.

Yeah it's penalty. That's clean. The referee was blind. The referee is clear having an agenda to rob ukraine from beating italy to be qualified for euro 2024. I will not believe if there was no agenda owned by UEFA as said but aleksander ceferin on his statement called a disaster if italy won't qualify for the euro 2024.
Ukrainee deserves a penalty. Mudryk has been doing so much for his club.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on November 20, 2023, 07:29:31 PM

I agree with you on that. It was a clear penalty for Ukraine there. Because as far as I can see there is a contact with Mudryk's foot. I don't know how they still continue to make mistakes in the presence of VAR technology. If they examined the incident in detail they were going to realize that the final decision should have been the opposite.

Maybe Ukraine could have eliminated Italy there but a bad decision brought their end instead. Sad

I can't say Italy were great in terms of performance here but I must admit that Chiesa and Donnarumma were really impressive.

VAR reduces mistakes from referees but there are decisions with VAR supports are still mistakes. We have to wonder that those mistakes are intentionally made by referees on behalf of some orders of people who are at higher positions.

I see that should be a penalty for Ukraine but the match ended, it's irreversible for the match result and Ukraine have to move on, aim at future tournaments. The match is very balancing so a draw result is fair for both without the penalty rejection drama.

Italy after missing two continuous World Cup 2018 and 2022, will have a chance to play in Euro 2024 to defend the title they won in Euro 2021 (hosted in 2021 because of pandemic).

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 20, 2023, 07:12:27 PM

What a robbery for Italy vs Ukraine.

Was a clear penalty IMHO. What do you think

It was a big chance that wasn't given to the Ukraine national team, I don't feel VAR is ever going to make the right decisions when it mostly matters in the world of football.
It has been proven that VAR isn't capable of making the right call, ref should be allowed to take absolutely control over the game without involving VAR.
Ukraine would have been 2nd while Italy would have been beating themselves for losing the game. Is so annoying for VAR's decision.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 20, 2023, 07:12:27 PM

What a robbery for Italy vs Ukraine.

Was a clear penalty IMHO. What do you think

I agree with you on that. It was a clear penalty for Ukraine there. Because as far as I can see there is a contact with Mudryk's foot. I don't know how they still continue to make mistakes in the presence of VAR technology. If they examined the incident in detail they were going to realize that the final decision should have been the opposite.

Maybe Ukraine could have eliminated Italy there but a bad decision brought their end instead. Sad

I can't say Italy were great in terms of performance here but I must admit that Chiesa and Donnarumma were really impressive.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on November 20, 2023, 04:35:12 PM

So I also hope that Italy doesnt lose today.

Italy did not loose and by not losing have been able to secure the qualification for the competition next year in Germany. Strangely because of how the game progressed it was difficult to say that the game will end goalless because both teams created good opportunities for themselves to score and had good shots on targets but no one was able to find the net at the end of the day, thanks to the dogged defense of both teams and some individual brilliance from the goalkeepers.

The Ukrainians need to be proud because they gave the Italians a fair contest.

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What a robbery for Italy vs Ukraine.

Was a clear penalty IMHO. What do you think

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Quote from: LTU_btc on November 20, 2023, 05:51:26 PM

Italy goes to Euro 2024 after 0:0 draw with Ukraine. It was nervous game, both teams had good chances, but Ukraine needed win, while 0:0 was enough for Italy. But that moment in the end is very questionable, I think there was foul against Mudryk, but not 100% certain about it. Anyway, Ukraine still can qualify through Nations League.
Slovenia qualified too after win 2:1 against Kazakhstan. In end of 1st half Kazkahstan got stupid penalty, but damn, how good they were in 2nd half, they were so close reaching their dream. Meanwhile, as expected, Czech Republic didn't had any problems against Moldova and earned their spot.
There is few upsets like North Macedonia draw with England or Northern Ireland win against Denmark, but in general, these games had zero importance.

I think that if it wasn't for that referee (Manzano), it would have been a penalty.
Interesting thing, San Marino scored a goal in the 3rd match in a row!

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Italy goes to Euro 2024 after 0:0 draw with Ukraine. It was nervous game, both teams had good chances, but Ukraine needed win, while 0:0 was enough for Italy. But that moment in the end is very questionable, I think there was foul against Mudryk, but not 100% certain about it. Anyway, Ukraine still can qualify through Nations League.
Slovenia qualified too after win 2:1 against Kazakhstan. In end of 1st half Kazkahstan got stupid penalty, but damn, how good they were in 2nd half, they were so close reaching their dream. Meanwhile, as expected, Czech Republic didn't had any problems against Moldova and earned their spot.
There is few upsets like North Macedonia draw with England or Northern Ireland win against Denmark, but in general, these games had zero importance.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 20, 2023, 03:04:43 PM

It is time for Italy to finish this job today. Cool

I'm not Italian but I really want to see Italy in Euro 2024. It is nice to have all big national teams in the biggest tournaments. Italy couldn't reach the last World Cup dramatically as you know. I wouldn't like to see a similar scenario happening again for Euro 2024 this time. They did what they had to do against North Macedonia. It was more like they were having revenge on them on one hand. Grin

After seeing that amazing performance I'm more expectant from Italy against Ukraine. Even one point is enough, yeah. But Italy would play for winning this game as good as possible. I believe that they will do this too.

So I also hope that Italy doesnt lose today. They belong in the final round and they cant be missing in Germany. Everyone wants to see the duels between Germany and Italy, how nice that would be. The first 45 minutes are over and it stand 0:0, the result would be enough for Italy. So longer the game goes on, Ukraine must risk more and more, and I suspect theres a good chance of a goal from 80-90 minute.

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