UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 228.

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Quote from: harapan on March 05, 2023, 12:25:07 AM

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Manchester United needs Osimhen. Osimhen needs Manchester United. Since he has experienced Serie A football, he should come to the Preimer League and experience it too and develop himself there. I can imagine him and Rahy in a counter attack and in the 18 yard box of the opponent. Osimhen in Manchester United will be like Haaland in Manchester City. The Unique thing about this duos is their lack of skillfullness but defineitely super brilliant clinical finishing. We'll see where he goes next season.

I would not go to Manchester United if I was Osimhen. That can put a lot of unnecessary pressure on him. Manchester United need a striker that is not only a good goal scorer but also technical. A striker that can drop deep to the midfield when the game is hard and support his teammates. Osimhen is kind of like a traditional top striker, just like Halland. Those kind of players require special kind of management before they could perform well at top level. Ten Hag does not play with those kind of strikers, he loves everybody to be involved in the build up of the game. Manchester United should go all out for Harry Kane.

Absolutely agree, buddy! It's simply like fitting a square peg in a round hole for Osimhen to venture into Manchester United. The team is in need of a striker who can perform a dual role of scoring goals and providing support in the midfield. Osimhen is more of a traditional striker and will need some special treatment to excel at the top level. It's like asking a watermelon to climb a tree!

Nonetheless, let's not rule out the possibility of Osimhen surprising us with his incredible abilities. Who are we to challenge the wisdom of the football gods? Maybe he could adjust to Ten Hag's style of play and steer Manchester United towards victory. And who knows, maybe the universe will flip itself upside down!

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Quote from: Naficopa on March 05, 2023, 11:56:36 AM

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I hope Arteta is more focused on the domestic league rather than targeting two trophies at once. 5 points difference from City, is not a safe situation with 12 matches left until the end of this season. plus, we haven't heard any news about Arsenal players who have been hit with injuries such as, Gabriel Jesus who is scheduled to recover this month. however, we do not have further information related to the recovery of G.Jesus. also, the injury to Trossard against Bournemouth. This is clearly a concern for me as a Gunners fan. but if Trossard doesn't suffer a serious injury, plus G.Jesus has been declared recovered, also Nketiah, I'm a little calm if The Gunners are targeting to win two trophies at once this season. and if the Gunners have no problems for their strikers, against Sproting is not a big problem for them. even though Arsenal will be playing at home to Sporting.

Arsenal still have plenty of opportunities in almost every league. But the coach of the team has to apply strategy to achieve something good. So that the players can move the team forward. Because every league has a different style of play.

arsenal's chances of being able to win the European league trophy and the EPL trophy are still wide open, especially now that the performance of their rival teams, such as man utd, juventus and roma, is not very stable. Arteta must have a good strategy when facing Sporting later because Sporting is a strong team too.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on March 05, 2023, 11:13:12 AM

Next week we will start again with the resumption of the EL, and Arsenal can also participate again. At first glance, the game United - Real Betis stands out, I think those are 2 teams with a good record. But real squatters are not among them yet. We will have to be patient for that and wait until the quarter-finals, then I understand we will also have an open draw and a match can really go either way. I hope that Arsenal and United will not be linked for the time being. Juventus may secretly be better than we think and also have serious chances to win this tournament.

I think at this moment the quality between Manchester United and Betis cannot be compared, because at least Manchester United is a big team that also comes from the Premier League which has a tough competition. Therefore, after all, Manchester United still has a better chance to beat Betis and to be able to advance to the next round.

By the way, I also agree about Juventus because they are also in a better situation at this moment so Juventus do have the strength to go further in this Europa League.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on March 05, 2023, 12:31:39 PM

Quote from: temple on March 05, 2023, 11:28:36 AM

But you are raising an important point about Ronaldo. Why is Rashford thriving so well now? Could he have thrived the same way when Ronaldo was still at Manchester United? At Real Madrid Ronaldo behaved like a king but also played like a king. At Manchester United Ronaldo only behaved like a king and that is poison for the team spirit. Now Rashford is taking responsibility and he has grown into that role and he is a real leader by producing strong performances and results reliably.

I am not optimistic with Manchester United have potential winning on playoff round against Barcelona if Cristiano Ronaldo still there, have many problem with attacking line should give chance for Ronaldo scoring goals than priority the other player. I talked about fact how Rashford consistency scoring goals on every matches actually after Cristiano Ronaldo reach mutual contract with Manchester United and have top performance after FIFA World Cup over.

Right now Rashford have answered with public's doubt about Cristiano Ronaldo effect after leaving Manchester United, consistency on top fourth standing in Primer League and success qualify to 16th on Europe League seems have been enough for Manchester fan's forget with Ronaldo and build their dreaming with Rashford.

I wouldn't go that far because internationally Ronaldo has always proven how strong he is and also, nobody knows whether ten Haag would have even let him play against Barcelona. Saying that Manchester United would have lost because of him is too much if you ask me. But it is a fact that Manchester United has stabilized and is less of a topic for drama in the public since Ronaldo left. They can focus more on what is actually important and that is good training and good soccer games.

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Quote from: temple on March 05, 2023, 11:28:36 AM

But you are raising an important point about Ronaldo. Why is Rashford thriving so well now? Could he have thrived the same way when Ronaldo was still at Manchester United? At Real Madrid Ronaldo behaved like a king but also played like a king. At Manchester United Ronaldo only behaved like a king and that is poison for the team spirit. Now Rashford is taking responsibility and he has grown into that role and he is a real leader by producing strong performances and results reliably.

I am not optimistic with Manchester United have potential winning on playoff round against Barcelona if Cristiano Ronaldo still there, have many problem with attacking line should give chance for Ronaldo scoring goals than priority the other player. I talked about fact how Rashford consistency scoring goals on every matches actually after Cristiano Ronaldo reach mutual contract with Manchester United and have top performance after FIFA World Cup over.

Right now Rashford have answered with public's doubt about Cristiano Ronaldo effect after leaving Manchester United, consistency on top fourth standing in Primer League and success qualify to 16th on Europe League seems have been enough for Manchester fan's forget with Ronaldo and build their dreaming with Rashford.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on March 05, 2023, 11:39:05 AM

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Arsenal are now focusing more on the English Premier League. The team managed to secure victory in the last match remarkably. In spite of being behind the opposition team, the victory was secured in the end with 3-2 goals.

I hope Arteta is more focused on the domestic league rather than targeting two trophies at once. 5 points difference from City, is not a safe situation with 12 matches left until the end of this season. plus, we haven't heard any news about Arsenal players who have been hit with injuries such as, Gabriel Jesus who is scheduled to recover this month. however, we do not have further information related to the recovery of G.Jesus. also, the injury to Trossard against Bournemouth. This is clearly a concern for me as a Gunners fan. but if Trossard doesn't suffer a serious injury, plus G.Jesus has been declared recovered, also Nketiah, I'm a little calm if The Gunners are targeting to win two trophies at once this season. and if the Gunners have no problems for their strikers, against Sproting is not a big problem for them. even though Arsenal will be playing at home to Sporting.

Arsenal still have plenty of opportunities in almost every league. But the coach of the team has to apply strategy to achieve something good. So that the players can move the team forward. Because every league has a different style of play.

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Quote from: sovie on March 05, 2023, 12:55:28 AM

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Quote from: Awaklara on March 04, 2023, 10:48:54 AM

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Arsenal are now focusing more on the English Premier League. The team managed to secure victory in the last match remarkably. In spite of being behind the opposition team, the victory was secured in the end with 3-2 goals.

I hope Arteta is more focused on the domestic league rather than targeting two trophies at once. 5 points difference from City, is not a safe situation with 12 matches left until the end of this season. plus, we haven't heard any news about Arsenal players who have been hit with injuries such as, Gabriel Jesus who is scheduled to recover this month. however, we do not have further information related to the recovery of G.Jesus. also, the injury to Trossard against Bournemouth. This is clearly a concern for me as a Gunners fan. but if Trossard doesn't suffer a serious injury, plus G.Jesus has been declared recovered, also Nketiah, I'm a little calm if The Gunners are targeting to win two trophies at once this season. and if the Gunners have no problems for their strikers, against Sproting is not a big problem for them. even though Arsenal will be playing at home to Sporting.

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Quote from: makishart on March 05, 2023, 02:00:49 AM

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After Cristiano Ronaldo left the team, the team managed to get back to its original rhythm. Right now Manchester United is in great form. The team managed to secure victory in most of the matches.

I kinda feel that if C ronaldo was the main problem here. C ronaldo is only caring with his life now in al nassr. I think that if he already found what he wants and MU is also getting better and better since ten hag was managing the club.

MU just getting back its soul after ten hag has been motivating some players like rashford if he has a very big potential to be as good as ronaldo.
The next match a bit easy for manchester united. I consider betis as an easy team for MU. The performance from betis in la liga is not as good as barcelona. We can expect that if betis will not be as tough as barcelon as well when it will be facing MU

Mu will not have any problem in the match against betis. Going all in MU is going to be the best decision.

But you are raising an important point about Ronaldo. Why is Rashford thriving so well now? Could he have thrived the same way when Ronaldo was still at Manchester United? At Real Madrid Ronaldo behaved like a king but also played like a king. At Manchester United Ronaldo only behaved like a king and that is poison for the team spirit. Now Rashford is taking responsibility and he has grown into that role and he is a real leader by producing strong performances and results reliably.

At some point the younger payers wish to take responsibility as well and they want to enfold their potential. That is when you need a team around you where everyone wants to help the others to win. Ronaldo isn't like that. Now Manchester United is a real team. There are no egoistic guys on the field anymore.

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Next week we will start again with the resumption of the EL, and Arsenal can also participate again. At first glance, the game United - Real Betis stands out, I think those are 2 teams with a good record. But real squatters are not among them yet. We will have to be patient for that and wait until the quarter-finals, then I understand we will also have an open draw and a match can really go either way. I hope that Arsenal and United will not be linked for the time being. Juventus may secretly be better than we think and also have serious chances to win this tournament.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on March 05, 2023, 10:36:02 AM

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Quote from: sovie on March 05, 2023, 01:30:27 AM

Arsenal are in a good position in the Europa League. The team is first in the group. On the other hand, Manchester United are second in their group. However, the chances of these two teams in the Europa League are very high.

In the round of 16 now Arsenal only have to focus well on the match against Sporting CP at the Estadio Jose Alvalade, while Manchester United will only focus on home turf by welcoming their opponent Real Betis this weekend. And I hope that Arsenal and Manchester United can win the match this weekend in order to make it easier for both of them in the second leg later, because I also hope that these two teams will not be eliminated more quickly in the Europa League so that they can present a hotter competition this season.

I think the two teams representing the English League in the European League will be able to advance to the next round. They are more favored than the team that will be their opponents, so they should be able to do it very well in this round of 16. Right, these two teams will provide very tight competition if they can advance and qualify from this round. I don't even hope that the team that is now superior will be eliminated now.

Arsenal and Manchester United will be hoping for a win in this week's match and both teams will be able to solidify their position for the next round.

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 05, 2023, 06:37:45 AM

Quote from: sovie on March 05, 2023, 01:30:27 AM

Arsenal are in a good position in the Europa League. The team is first in the group. On the other hand, Manchester United are second in their group. However, the chances of these two teams in the Europa League are very high.

In the round of 16 now Arsenal only have to focus well on the match against Sporting CP at the Estadio Jose Alvalade, while Manchester United will only focus on home turf by welcoming their opponent Real Betis this weekend. And I hope that Arsenal and Manchester United can win the match this weekend in order to make it easier for both of them in the second leg later, because I also hope that these two teams will not be eliminated more quickly in the Europa League so that they can present a hotter competition this season.

Arsenal and Manchester United are the best strong teams in the Europa league . The both teams are targeting to win the Europa League which can eventually ends with any of them. How this two teams have improve this season I think they deserve to win the Europa League.

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 05, 2023, 06:37:45 AM

Quote from: sovie on March 05, 2023, 01:30:27 AM

Arsenal are in a good position in the Europa League. The team is first in the group. On the other hand, Manchester United are second in their group. However, the chances of these two teams in the Europa League are very high.

In the round of 16 now Arsenal only have to focus well on the match against Sporting CP at the Estadio Jose Alvalade, while Manchester United will only focus on home turf by welcoming their opponent Real Betis this weekend. And I hope that Arsenal and Manchester United can win the match this weekend in order to make it easier for both of them in the second leg later, because I also hope that these two teams will not be eliminated more quickly in the Europa League so that they can present a hotter competition this season.

I think the two teams representing the English League in the European League will be able to advance to the next round. They are more favored than the team that will be their opponents, so they should be able to do it very well in this round of 16. Right, these two teams will provide very tight competition if they can advance and qualify from this round. I don't even hope that the team that is now superior will be eliminated now.

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Quote from: sovie on March 05, 2023, 01:30:27 AM

Arsenal are in a good position in the Europa League. The team is first in the group. On the other hand, Manchester United are second in their group. However, the chances of these two teams in the Europa League are very high.

In the round of 16 now Arsenal only have to focus well on the match against Sporting CP at the Estadio Jose Alvalade, while Manchester United will only focus on home turf by welcoming their opponent Real Betis this weekend. And I hope that Arsenal and Manchester United can win the match this weekend in order to make it easier for both of them in the second leg later, because I also hope that these two teams will not be eliminated more quickly in the Europa League so that they can present a hotter competition this season.

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Quote from: Z-tight on March 04, 2023, 10:40:46 AM

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While Arsenal are starting to rise, now they have to compete with Manchester United who are starting to rise as well and could even become their opponents in the European league round later. Indeed, this is something that can be clearly seen and which of the two teams will be able to win the European league title this season. Both Arsenal and Manchester united have had good performances so far in all competitions and as you said, this proves that these two are the strongest candidates so far until the final round.

It is going to be exciting if Arsenal and United meet in the Europa league, maybe in the final or semifinal, two English teams who are doing very well this season and are determined to win trophies, it will be so hard to predict a winner. But before we can talk about either teams meeting, they have to win their round of 16 games, Arsenal are going to face Sporting, and United will face Betis, these are matches that the two English teams are expected to win, but anything can happen in this tournament, but i want the both of them to qualify so that there is a chance of them playing each other.

Indeed, we must first focus on the round of 16 match next week first. I think Sporting is not too difficult an opponent for Arsenal, but I hope Mikel Arteta doesn't underestimate Sporting because for European competitions Sporting can be a serious threat, especially Sporting will host the first leg and for Manchester United even though the first leg will be hosts, I think they will still be able to secure a win against Real Betis later.

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Quote from: Despairo on March 05, 2023, 03:22:03 AM

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I would not go to Manchester United if I was Osimhen. That can put a lot of unnecessary pressure on him. Manchester United need a striker that is not only a good goal scorer but also technical. A striker that can drop deep to the midfield when the game is hard and support his teammates. Osimhen is kind of like a traditional top striker, just like Halland. Those kind of players require special kind of management before they could perform well at top level. Ten Hag does not play with those kind of strikers, he loves everybody to be involved in the build up of the game. Manchester United should go all out for Harry Kane.

But Manchester United do have a lot midfielders who can support the striker, just take a look with Bruno Fernandez, Casemiro and Cristian Eriksen, their assists are high. I tend to agree if Osimhen is also a pure traditional top striker like Haaland, but I don't think it's wrong to join Manchester United. Weghorst will leave the club in the next 3 months, Manchester United doesn't have any pure striker.

When a coach wants a player, he means he has seen that the player fits what he thinks his strategy is. After all, I agree that Manchester United now has a midfielder who can pamper a striker with the bait they provide, maybe now there is still a sense of selfishness that I see from Manchester United players. But if the coach can get rid of that they can become a good supplier of the ball, and I see Erik Ten Hag being able to do that.

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Quote from: Falconer on March 05, 2023, 12:36:46 AM

Why do you think Victor Osimhen is unfit for Manchester United, I think he has something good to be the striker Ten Hag needs instead of Wout Weghorst. Osimhen is a player with pace and good positioning, he is one of the best so far and I think he is as good as Haaland at Manchester City.

You can't be Osimhen if you reject Manchester United. You know what I mean, but every player has the desire to play for the team he wants to play the most. Manchester United are a big team, so when an offer comes in for a player like Osimhen it will be hard to turn down especially if the value is reached.

Manchester United and coach Erik ten Haq is currently not thinking about signing of Victor Osimhen because currently their all strategy is around how to win one more trophy for having dream end of this season of new coach Erik ten Hag which is already have one trophy in their pocket and second quarterfinal spot is achieved after beating West Ham in The FA Cup round of 16 and Europa Cup spot is also settled after beating Barcelona in their last game.

If they have one more trophy with third spot in Premier League surely it's going to be ideal situation for good future than any top ranked player will happily join this club for his future but right now their main target is Harry Kane instead of Victor Osimhen, but things are not clear all will be settled in summer.

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Quote from: harapan on March 05, 2023, 12:25:07 AM

I would not go to Manchester United if I was Osimhen. That can put a lot of unnecessary pressure on him. Manchester United need a striker that is not only a good goal scorer but also technical. A striker that can drop deep to the midfield when the game is hard and support his teammates. Osimhen is kind of like a traditional top striker, just like Halland. Those kind of players require special kind of management before they could perform well at top level. Ten Hag does not play with those kind of strikers, he loves everybody to be involved in the build up of the game. Manchester United should go all out for Harry Kane.

But Manchester United do have a lot midfielders who can support the striker, just take a look with Bruno Fernandez, Casemiro and Cristian Eriksen, their assists are high. I tend to agree if Osimhen is also a pure traditional top striker like Haaland, but I don't think it's wrong to join Manchester United. Weghorst will leave the club in the next 3 months, Manchester United doesn't have any pure striker.

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Quote from: harapan on March 05, 2023, 12:25:07 AM

Quote from: alastantiger on March 04, 2023, 07:24:29 AM

Manchester United needs Osimhen. Osimhen needs Manchester United. Since he has experienced Serie A football, he should come to the Preimer League and experience it too and develop himself there. I can imagine him and Rahy in a counter attack and in the 18 yard box of the opponent. Osimhen in Manchester United will be like Haaland in Manchester City. The Unique thing about this duos is their lack of skillfullness but defineitely super brilliant clinical finishing. We'll see where he goes next season.

I would not go to Manchester United if I was Osimhen. That can put a lot of unnecessary pressure on him. Manchester United need a striker that is not only a good goal scorer but also technical. A striker that can drop deep to the midfield when the game is hard and support his teammates. Osimhen is kind of like a traditional top striker, just like Halland. Those kind of players require special kind of management before they could perform well at top level. Ten Hag does not play with those kind of strikers, he loves everybody to be involved in the build up of the game. Manchester United should go all out for Harry Kane.

You rightly said the kind of player Osimhen is but you missed it out that Osimhen doesn't help midfield. That statement is untrue. I have seen Osimhen return to midfield to build up the match with the midfielders. Osimhen is a natural striker and he can do well in Manchester United.
I would have been skeptical if Manchester United was not in good form. But now Osimhen and Rashford would be a fire.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on March 05, 2023, 01:27:36 AM

Victor Oshime is not unfit for the job at Manchester United as the Central Attacking Player, There's no need for the comparison between Wout Weghorst and Victor Oshime. Wout Weghorst has been instrumental to Manchester United tactically, he doesn't score goals but then when you check his work rate for United, he's been making huge sacrifice along side Bruno Fernandez. I don't like the fact that nobody seems to see all that and give them the credit they deserve.

Quite alright everybody wants a big club as United, but when was the last time a black player, do so well for them Odion Igalo did and didn't play so long. Black players are well settled at Chelsea and not Manchester United. We'll see if things will change under Erik Ten Hag, because Erik Bailey complained right before leaving the club on loan to Marseille that black players are simply being segregated.
Oshime is not just the only black player meant to be bought, Kudus of Ajax, Amad Diallo will also return from his loan spell at Sunderland.

I'm not talking about skin, I'm talking about quality. Also I don't really think that Osimhen is really interested in Manchester United, that's because Ten Hag or the Dutch couch tends to be interested in his compatriots. Weghorst is a forced sign. He is a striker who is expected to be able to contribute many goals to his team, you cannot expect a center forward without good goal productivity because he not only completes the 11 players needed in the main line-up but as a striker he has to do his job.

If Osimhen had to go to the Premier League I think he could play in any team including Manchester United. Chelsea is good too, however Liverpool or Manchester City could also consider this option if they need a striker with a high goal productivity like Osimhen.

Back to the topic, Manchester United vs Real Betis in the Europa League. Manchester United are favorites for the quarter-finals after being drawn against representatives of La Liga, but then again Manchester United probably shouldn't underestimate any Spanish team in the Europa League even if Manchester United's quality on paper is much better.

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Quote from: Naficopa on March 03, 2023, 11:57:17 PM

After Cristiano Ronaldo left the team, the team managed to get back to its original rhythm. Right now Manchester United is in great form. The team managed to secure victory in most of the matches.

I kinda feel that if C ronaldo was the main problem here. C ronaldo is only caring with his life now in al nassr. I think that if he already found what he wants and MU is also getting better and better since ten hag was managing the club.

MU just getting back its soul after ten hag has been motivating some players like rashford if he has a very big potential to be as good as ronaldo.
The next match a bit easy for manchester united. I consider betis as an easy team for MU. The performance from betis in la liga is not as good as barcelona. We can expect that if betis will not be as tough as barcelon as well when it will be facing MU

Mu will not have any problem in the match against betis. Going all in MU is going to be the best decision.

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