UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 225.

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Quote from: rendravolt on March 07, 2023, 07:37:52 AM

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Losing the game against Liverpool can have many effects on Manchester United and it could have nad atmosphere for the whole team because seven goals is a lot I think Ten Hag need to try hard to understand and solve the problem in his team to prevent the same mistake against Real Betis however since Real Betis is not that strong to make trouble for Manchester United this game against Betis can make Ten Hag and his player to get back in shape.

Surely Manchester United will rise again in the European league match against Real Betis. Indeed, the previous defeat against Liverpool in the domestic league must have been very difficult for players and coaches to forget, but I hope that the red devils will immediately move on from this incident and return to focus on the competition they will face this week. I am still very sure that Manchester United will be one of the finalists in the race for the European League title later.

I also agree that Manchester United is the favorites to win this year's UEFA Europa League. In addition to home advantage, Manchester United will have another slight advantage when in the press, there is information that pillar midfielder Nabil Fekir has suffered a ligament injury after winning Elche in La Liga over the weekend, it is likely that he will sit outside. The strength that Manchester United possesses is much more muscular than Real Betis, Real Betis always shows extremely uncomfortable play when facing stronger teams this year.

But I think this match will be the place for Erik Ten Hag's teachers and students to vent their rage after the 0-7 loss to Liverpool.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on March 07, 2023, 07:57:33 AM

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To be honest, I'm not worried about The Red Devils' crushing defeat to Liverpool in the Premier League. in a match, winning or losing is commonplace. what worries me is, the impact of a busy schedule can reduce the team's overall performance. because remembering that in every United game, Ten Hag always plays his main line-up. naturally I really understand, because Ten Hag has no other choice because the second tier players don't have the same level as the first team. also, several players who are still injured.

Some secondary players are not reliable enough to replace the players that played in the mainsquad. There are some players who have already been benched since the early of the season like meguire and many more. These players are always giving a bad contribution to the united. There are still five days between any matches and that can be used by MU's players to take rest and prepare for the upcoming match. I think that if there are enough time for MU to recover their stamina. The schedule is not as busy as you said.

Quote from: rahmad2nd on March 07, 2023, 06:43:37 AM

However, with the heavy defeat to Liverpool it became homework for Ten Hag to revise his squad. I remain optimistic, The Red Devils are able to bounce back and make the defeat in yesterday's match motivate them to perform much better. the match vs Real Betis, will still be a winning match for Erik Ten Hag's squad. because, apart from playing as the home team, Betis is not a team that is too strong for The Red Devils topple.

MU can bounce back again. The lost against liverpool didn't mean if it's the end of MU but the chance for MU to compete with manchester city and arsenal become smaller as MU was losing three important points against liverpool.

@shinratensei_ as a Manchester United fan I feel that this defeat is a blessing, because now Ten Hag will know that he can’t count on all his player’s and the player’s will know that they can’t afford to be over confident anymore. Furthermore I feel that Ten Hag will get the desired result from them in the upcoming fixture’s, and thus I’m not at all worried about this loss because I believe in Ten Hag vision and commitment for the club.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on March 07, 2023, 06:43:37 AM

To be honest, I'm not worried about The Red Devils' crushing defeat to Liverpool in the Premier League. in a match, winning or losing is commonplace. what worries me is, the impact of a busy schedule can reduce the team's overall performance. because remembering that in every United game, Ten Hag always plays his main line-up. naturally I really understand, because Ten Hag has no other choice because the second tier players don't have the same level as the first team. also, several players who are still injured.

Some secondary players are not reliable enough to replace the players that played in the mainsquad. There are some players who have already been benched since the early of the season like meguire and many more. These players are always giving a bad contribution to the united. There are still five days between any matches and that can be used by MU's players to take rest and prepare for the upcoming match. I think that if there are enough time for MU to recover their stamina. The schedule is not as busy as you said.

Quote from: rahmad2nd on March 07, 2023, 06:43:37 AM

However, with the heavy defeat to Liverpool it became homework for Ten Hag to revise his squad. I remain optimistic, The Red Devils are able to bounce back and make the defeat in yesterday's match motivate them to perform much better. the match vs Real Betis, will still be a winning match for Erik Ten Hag's squad. because, apart from playing as the home team, Betis is not a team that is too strong for The Red Devils topple.

MU can bounce back again. The lost against liverpool didn't mean if it's the end of MU but the chance for MU to compete with manchester city and arsenal become smaller as MU was losing three important points against liverpool.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on March 07, 2023, 04:22:21 AM

Losing the game against Liverpool can have many effects on Manchester United and it could have nad atmosphere for the whole team because seven goals is a lot I think Ten Hag need to try hard to understand and solve the problem in his team to prevent the same mistake against Real Betis however since Real Betis is not that strong to make trouble for Manchester United this game against Betis can make Ten Hag and his player to get back in shape.

Surely Manchester United will rise again in the European league match against Real Betis. Indeed, the previous defeat against Liverpool in the domestic league must have been very difficult for players and coaches to forget, but I hope that the red devils will immediately move on from this incident and return to focus on the competition they will face this week. I am still very sure that Manchester United will be one of the finalists in the race for the European League title later.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on March 07, 2023, 04:22:21 AM

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Manchester United completely lost their way after Nunez doubled their advantage and Gakpo scored Bruce in the 50th minute, after trailing 3-0 Manchester United were increasingly under pressure which made it difficult for their players to develop their game. The 7-0 defeat will remain in Ten Hag's memory and is the most painful defeat because not a single Manchester United player was able to score.

Ten Hag strategy didn't seem to work in front of Liverpool, he had to pay attention to the defense against Betis to prevent conceding more than one goal. The Europa League trophy is the most prestigious that Manchester United can possibly achieve this season after the chances in the EPL are getting smaller due to being 14 points behind the leaders.

Losing the game against Liverpool can have many effects on Manchester United and it could have nad atmosphere for the whole team because seven goals is a lot I think Ten Hag need to try hard to understand and solve the problem in his team to prevent the same mistake against Real Betis however since Real Betis is not that strong to make trouble for Manchester United this game against Betis can make Ten Hag and his player to get back in shape.

To be honest, I'm not worried about The Red Devils' crushing defeat to Liverpool in the Premier League. in a match, winning or losing is commonplace. what worries me is, the impact of a busy schedule can reduce the team's overall performance. because remembering that in every United game, Ten Hag always plays his main line-up. naturally I really understand, because Ten Hag has no other choice because the second tier players don't have the same level as the first team. also, several players who are still injured.

However, with the heavy defeat to Liverpool it became homework for Ten Hag to revise his squad. I remain optimistic, The Red Devils are able to bounce back and make the defeat in yesterday's match motivate them to perform much better. the match vs Real Betis, will still be a winning match for Erik Ten Hag's squad. because, apart from playing as the home team, Betis is not a team that is too strong for The Red Devils topple.

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Quote from: Cookdata on March 07, 2023, 05:44:54 AM

You can't tell people to stop the press when Erik was doing the same and I'm glad it hit them badly the day he disparaged Ronaldo, the dude already move on and his making goals and a name in Saudi Arabi, Manchester United has also been doing well until this last shameful lost they had and to me, it is a settle cause after what he said in the media for letting go of Ronaldo.
loss is a normal thing, nothing spoiled, their position in Premier League still remains unchanged and no team has overtaken them, same thing in Europa, he should encourage his boys and get back on what they have been doing the last few weeks, especially the Rashford Trademark we have been enjoying after goal.

Man United defeat to Liverpool has always been linked by the media because the score 7 is identical to the jersey number attached to Ronaldo. So do not be surprised if this news is always the topic that appears the most on the internet. But keep in mind that losing is still losing without the need to connect someone who is no longer at Man United. Man United could have made mistakes against Liverpool and the 7-0 score was the first biggest defeat since being at the hands of Erik Ten Hag.

By the way this is a photo that Ronaldo posted in November 2021. Is it a coincidence? The 6th, 7 goals from Liverpool and in 2023. Lol Grin

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVynDxFoQFH/?hl=id

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Stop the presses! Manchester United has suffered a loss! But you know what they say, "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." And let me tell you, Manchester United has plenty of courage. They are a team of champions, and one loss isn't going to change that. As professionals, they know that wins and losses are part of the game. And you know what else? They're going to use this defeat as a lesson to improve for their future games. Manchester United has an amazing squad, and they will surely be motivated to make their fans proud again. I, for one, am excited to see what the future holds for the Red Devils!

You can't tell people to stop the press when Erik was doing the same and I'm glad it hit them badly the day he disparaged Ronaldo, the dude already move on and his making goals and a name in Saudi Arabi, Manchester United has also been doing well until this last shameful lost they had and to me, it is a settle cause after what he said in the media for letting go of Ronaldo.
loss is a normal thing, nothing spoiled, their position in Premier League still remains unchanged and no team has overtaken them, same thing in Europa, he should encourage his boys and get back on what they have been doing the last few weeks, especially the Rashford Trademark we have been enjoying after goal.

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Quote from: mamesso on March 07, 2023, 03:42:15 AM

Quote from: babo on March 07, 2023, 02:38:50 AM

I too was surprised by that shocking score
when you lose like this there is also a bit of bad luck, you lose your head a bit
but it means that the team does not have a natural leader who gives him a wake-up call when he serves, as in the case of conceding several goals
the coach couldn't wake them up at all, a real disaster

Manchester United completely lost their way after Nunez doubled their advantage and Gakpo scored Bruce in the 50th minute, after trailing 3-0 Manchester United were increasingly under pressure which made it difficult for their players to develop their game. The 7-0 defeat will remain in Ten Hag's memory and is the most painful defeat because not a single Manchester United player was able to score.

Ten Hag strategy didn't seem to work in front of Liverpool, he had to pay attention to the defense against Betis to prevent conceding more than one goal. The Europa League trophy is the most prestigious that Manchester United can possibly achieve this season after the chances in the EPL are getting smaller due to being 14 points behind the leaders.

Losing the game against Liverpool can have many effects on Manchester United and it could have nad atmosphere for the whole team because seven goals is a lot I think Ten Hag need to try hard to understand and solve the problem in his team to prevent the same mistake against Real Betis however since Real Betis is not that strong to make trouble for Manchester United this game against Betis can make Ten Hag and his player to get back in shape.

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Quote from: babo on March 07, 2023, 02:38:50 AM

I too was surprised by that shocking score
when you lose like this there is also a bit of bad luck, you lose your head a bit
but it means that the team does not have a natural leader who gives him a wake-up call when he serves, as in the case of conceding several goals
the coach couldn't wake them up at all, a real disaster

Manchester United completely lost their way after Nunez doubled their advantage and Gakpo scored Bruce in the 50th minute, after trailing 3-0 Manchester United were increasingly under pressure which made it difficult for their players to develop their game. The 7-0 defeat will remain in Ten Hag's memory and is the most painful defeat because not a single Manchester United player was able to score.

Ten Hag strategy didn't seem to work in front of Liverpool, he had to pay attention to the defense against Betis to prevent conceding more than one goal. The Europa League trophy is the most prestigious that Manchester United can possibly achieve this season after the chances in the EPL are getting smaller due to being 14 points behind the leaders.

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The defeat Liverpool gave to Manchester United would have affected them if they were to play Thursday match in the same environment. But since it is in a different environment and also a different tournament, I don't think it will impact the boys negatively.
Besides, Erik Ten Hag summoned the boys for early morning meeting, and I believe the issue has been addressed

It was surprising that Manchester United lost by a big score to Liverpool when their form was on the rise, a Premier League defeat should be used as a boost to keep the chances in the Europa League. Manchester United will start the first leg against Betis at Old Trafford, the advantage of playing at home should be used to make things easier for them in the second leg.
Ten Hag will give direction to all of his players to play compactly so that the same mistakes don't happen again, Betis cannot be underestimated because they have just forced Real Madrid to share points in the continuation of La Liga.

I too was surprised by that shocking score
when you lose like this there is also a bit of bad luck, you lose your head a bit
but it means that the team does not have a natural leader who gives him a wake-up call when he serves, as in the case of conceding several goals
the coach couldn't wake them up at all, a real disaster

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Quote from: nicolas1979 on March 06, 2023, 02:22:26 PM

After we watched the match between Liverpool and Manchester United in the English league, is this a bad sign for MU in the European league?

Maybe yes maybe no. MU will face non EPL club in la liga. That being said that if the play style will be unfamiliar for MU. Seeing how MU would able to beat barcelona even with small score makes me feel believe if MU will do the same against betis too. I think that the result from EPL won't give impact to the MU. Sometimes a team that got lose in EPL can also get win in another competition. betis is a good team and i can't deny that but MU was still above it as MU has able to beat barcelona and send it off from europa league.

Quote from: nicolas1979 on March 06, 2023, 02:22:26 PM

We have also seen the level of ability of Real Betis which held Real Madrid to a draw.
These two clubs have never faced each other for the title, but only in friendlies. Of course the level of fighting spirit is different.

The result against real madrid was a good point why betis is still capable to prevent MU move to the last 8. I may bet the result may be draw. It's quite difficult to understand what formation that ten hag will use. The first leg gonna happen in old trafford. It seems like that MU will be using 4231 against betis.

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Manchester United - Betis and Sporting - Arsenal are quite tough games for the English teams. Actually I still expect Manchester United to get a win in Old Trafford. That loss against Liverpool was terrifying indeed but hopefully they will still stay strong against Betis in this game. It is a nice chance to improve their performance again. It is important for them to win here as well because their job in Spain will be harder.

The loss against liverpool already given impacted on the performance of the team. I do know how disappointed ten hag with the result achieved by MU against liverpool. Ten hag needs to rebuild the mentality from its team.
Ten hag has been even giving very harsh words to the its club after it was losing against liverpool. I feel how shameful ten hag after it was making hot psywar to the liverpool.

I can only hope that if MU will recover again caused by it will be facing real betis. betis is also a strong club in la liga. Losing against betis will make ten hag's reputation got destroyed.
So many people are feeling proud with MU's comeback after it was having bad start in EPL.

@asriloni how do you watch football? Because Ten Tag lose to Liverpool and probably if he lose again on Thursday to real Betis,that will ruin his reputation? Your analysis is wrong, what Ten Tag has done for this club in Just few months in charge has given him hard earned reputation that no losing can break. Ten Tag is Manchester United future, he has done well, he just has recover from the Liverpool humiliation and bounce back immediately.
Manchester United will use Real Betis to gain their confidence back.I trust this team under Ten Tag,

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Quote from: Velvet78 on March 06, 2023, 05:51:40 PM

Manchester United - Betis and Sporting - Arsenal are quite tough games for the English teams. Actually I still expect Manchester United to get a win in Old Trafford. That loss against Liverpool was terrifying indeed but hopefully they will still stay strong against Betis in this game. It is a nice chance to improve their performance again. It is important for them to win here as well because their job in Spain will be harder.

The loss against liverpool already given impacted on the performance of the team. I do know how disappointed ten hag with the result achieved by MU against liverpool. Ten hag needs to rebuild the mentality from its team.
Ten hag has been even giving very harsh words to the its club after it was losing against liverpool. I feel how shameful ten hag after it was making hot psywar to the liverpool.

I can only hope that if MU will recover again caused by it will be facing real betis. betis is also a strong club in la liga. Losing against betis will make ten hag's reputation got destroyed.
So many people are feeling proud with MU's comeback after it was having bad start in EPL.

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Quote from: Docnaster on March 06, 2023, 01:46:44 PM

The defeat Liverpool gave to Manchester United would have affected them if they were to play Thursday match in the same environment. But since it is in a different environment and also a different tournament, I don't think it will impact the boys negatively.
Besides, Erik Ten Hag summoned the boys for early morning meeting, and I believe the issue has been addressed

It was surprising that Manchester United lost by a big score to Liverpool when their form was on the rise, a Premier League defeat should be used as a boost to keep the chances in the Europa League. Manchester United will start the first leg against Betis at Old Trafford, the advantage of playing at home should be used to make things easier for them in the second leg.
Ten Hag will give direction to all of his players to play compactly so that the same mistakes don't happen again, Betis cannot be underestimated because they have just forced Real Madrid to share points in the continuation of La Liga.

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 06, 2023, 05:59:12 PM

Quote from: nicolas1979 on March 06, 2023, 02:22:26 PM

After we watched the match between Liverpool and Manchester United in the English league, is this a bad sign for MU in the European league? We have also seen the level of ability of Real Betis which held Real Madrid to a draw.
These two clubs have never faced each other for the title, but only in friendlies. Of course the level of fighting spirit is different.

Manchester United's defeat at home to Liverpool in the Premier League cannot be used as a benchmark for bad things, because the conditions will be different from Manchester United facing a team in the Europa League this season even though the Europa League also has teams from the Premier League. But Real Betis, which will meet Manchester United in the Europa League in the near future, will also have to struggle more than when Real Betis faced Real Madrid in La Liga.

Real Betis have an unbeaten notes since the Europa League group stage. Even Roma, who are in their best performance this season, must admit the superiority of Betis.
Manchester United must be aware of that, even though they previously success in return Barcelona back from the Europa League, this does not guarantee that the Red Devils will get the same result against Betis in the coming days.
Erik ten Hag needs to restore the confidence of his players to get perfect results and realize his ambition to lift the Europa League trophy for the 2022/23 season

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Quote from: Davian144 on March 06, 2023, 05:59:12 PM

Manchester United's defeat at home to Liverpool in the Premier League cannot be used as a benchmark for bad things, because the conditions will be different from Manchester United facing a team in the Europa League this season even though the Europa League also has teams from the Premier League. But Real Betis, which will meet Manchester United in the Europa League in the near future, will also have to struggle more than when Real Betis faced Real Madrid in La Liga.

True but that may affect the performance from manchester united in the europa league. MU will be facing betis. Betis is now is also one of best team in la liga. Betis is still consistent even though it was playing a draw against madrid. MU will face another difficulty to beat betis caused by betis is as good as barcelona. Getting a draw against madrid was a great result for betis. Ten hag has been threatening MU's players if the bad result will be repeated again.
I saw how difficult MU was facing liverpool. The match against betis couldn't be underestimated. It may be true if betis was not among the favorites in europa league but we can be sure that even betis can give us a surprise too. Ten hag is now pressing its players with bad sanction once its club was making so many mistakes again. Ten hag is going even more harsh. Betis is not a weak opponent.

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Quote from: nicolas1979 on March 06, 2023, 02:22:26 PM

After we watched the match between Liverpool and Manchester United in the English league, is this a bad sign for MU in the European league? We have also seen the level of ability of Real Betis which held Real Madrid to a draw.
These two clubs have never faced each other for the title, but only in friendlies. Of course the level of fighting spirit is different.

Manchester United's defeat at home to Liverpool in the Premier League cannot be used as a benchmark for bad things, because the conditions will be different from Manchester United facing a team in the Europa League this season even though the Europa League also has teams from the Premier League. But Real Betis, which will meet Manchester United in the Europa League in the near future, will also have to struggle more than when Real Betis faced Real Madrid in La Liga.

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Manchester United - Betis and Sporting - Arsenal are quite tough games for the English teams. Actually I still expect Manchester United to get a win in Old Trafford. That loss against Liverpool was terrifying indeed but hopefully they will still stay strong against Betis in this game. It is a nice chance to improve their performance again. It is important for them to win here as well because their job in Spain will be harder.

Arsenal might get a draw maybe. Because Sporting are also one of the decent teams of the tournament. I don't think they would lose home already. I think a draw is likely to be seen.

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Quote from: jaberwock on March 06, 2023, 03:35:50 PM

Quote from: nicolas1979 on March 06, 2023, 02:22:26 PM

After we watched the match between Liverpool and Manchester United in the English league, is this a bad sign for MU in the European league? We have also seen the level of ability of Real Betis which held Real Madrid to a draw.
These two clubs have never faced each other for the title, but only in friendlies. Of course the level of fighting spirit is different.

Domestic league games are completely different from the European matches because here the biggest difference is quality which is important like we have Sevilla which is near the relegation zone in La Liga but right now they are in round of 16 for the Europa Cup with having chance for the last eight as well so for me Manchester United's biggest defeat against Liverpool is surely going to have no bad impact for them as this is wake-up call for the team which was flying high after having win against Barcelona and EFL Cup, but now Ten Hag will surely boost his player's confidence before this match, and they will be on driving seat because playing at home is surely big advantage, and they can do better performance and have chance for the quarterfinal spot as well.

Your thoughts are very reasonable and make a lot of sense. These losses for Manchester United and for Sevilla mean nothing for the Europa League. Mentally, it could be a little bit of a negative impact but only for a day or two. The coaches know that they have to refresh their minds and forget about those losses as quickly as possible in order to fully concentrate on the Europa League. We will see two different teams than we now saw in the domestic leagues as you said.

You could turn it one way or another but such a loss could even lead to extra motivation. None of the players of Manchester United or Sevilla wants to continue with such a bad performance and lose all trust of their fans. They will be extremely focused and pay maximum attention to not make easy mistakes.

I as a soccer fan find it extra exciting to see how both teams cope with those devastating losses and how they turn it into positive energy. My guess is that both teams will win their home game and the bookmakers see it the same way. The odds for Manchester to win are around 1.4 and for Sevilla they are around 1.75.

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Quote from: nicolas1979 on March 06, 2023, 02:22:26 PM

After we watched the match between Liverpool and Manchester United in the English league, is this a bad sign for MU in the European league? We have also seen the level of ability of Real Betis which held Real Madrid to a draw.
These two clubs have never faced each other for the title, but only in friendlies. Of course the level of fighting spirit is different.

Domestic league games are completely different from the European matches because here the biggest difference is quality which is important like we have Sevilla which is near the relegation zone in La Liga but right now they are in round of 16 for the Europa Cup with having chance for the last eight as well so for me Manchester United's biggest defeat against Liverpool is surely going to have no bad impact for them as this is wake-up call for the team which was flying high after having win against Barcelona and EFL Cup, but now Ten Hag will surely boost his player's confidence before this match, and they will be on driving seat because playing at home is surely big advantage, and they can do better performance and have chance for the quarterfinal spot as well.

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