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This is true that Barcelona have had several wins over Man United , but I do think that this time around it's going to be a different ball game, looking at Man United form and Changes over the years in both clubs. Barcelona had this incredible coach Guardiola and players, Lionel, Xavi, Iniesta and more compared to what they have now, basically a lot of things has changed which could affect the result too.

Without Xavi, Iniesta and other Barcelona's veteran players, they're able to beat Manchester United. Check the match on April 11, 2019 and April 17, 2019, only both Messi and Suarez playing as the strikers, the midfielders are same like the current year. It's really wrong to say Barcelona is really different with the old one, Messi is a GOAT, but football is a team play and the current Barcelona's players are good enough.

In the recent meetings of Barcelona and Manchester united, Barcelona always take the convincing lead. But this time around I am not sure Barcelona will be able to maintain their record because Erik ten Hag is coming with high pressure to destabilise Barcelona.
Any team can win because they are both doing wellin their local leagues but in Europe I would trust Ten ahead of Xavi.

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Quote from: Cookdata on February 08, 2023, 03:19:13 AM

It had been a while since Manchester United and Barcelona had match, I don't think it is ideal to use their H2H to measure their capacity because the last time the two teams played, Messi was still in Barcelona and if you look down from that moment to now, lots of changes have happened since then.

Sometimes history in football repeats itself because irrespective of the players and the coaches presently in the team, the rivalry remains the same; Taking Barcelona and Manchester United case into consideration, all the teams are after the record they have in the past therefore both teams will like to win the match and bring victory to their team because they are all hoping to be Europa league champions this season.

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Barcelona is currently managed by Xavi who knows the ways of Barcelona and has improved their form and Erik has done his own part in fabricating Manchester United in its own capacity, so the outcome of this match is really a tough one to predict but recent statistical performance may favor Barcelona little.

Statistically, both teams are playing very well in their respective leagues; Barcelona has won all their last five matches while Manchester United won four and lose one to their league leaders Arsenal which is normal; You are right that the match result will be very difficult to predict but there is a slight hope for Barcelona especially as they will be the one to start hosting Manchester United.

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Barcelona meeting with Manchester United in Europa will be a match that will be decided in the football pitch despite the good head to head record being enjoyed by Barcelona it is been noted that since 2012 Bacelona has won manchester united 4times against manchester united 1, we shouldnt take the away team which is Manchester United for granted because they are much in form in their league side so in this game we shouldn't totally bank on Barca unless we are looking at home advantage and to me that doesnt count this time.

barcelona was dominating head to head against united. This gonna be a huge challenge for manchester united. Manchester united was always dominated by barcelona when it came to gameplay. It's now time for ten hag to prove the new united that is ready to defeat barcelona in europa league. Barcelona will be losing some important players like dembele and busquets. This gives so many advantages to manchester united over barcelona. I think that if barcelona is also fully prepared by doing some rotations.
MU needs to pass barcelona in the play-off to be a winner in europa league.

It had been a while since Manchester United and Barcelona had match, I don't think it is ideal to use their H2H to measure their capacity because the last time the two teams played, Messi was still in Barcelona and if you look down from that moment to now, lots of changes have happened since then. Barcelona is currently managed by Xavi who knows the ways of Barcelona and has improved their form and Erik has done his own part in fabricating Manchester United in its own capacity, so the outcome of this match is really a tough one to predict but recent statistical performance may favor Barcelona little.

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Ajax will be hosting the German side union berlin in a football battle that I tag survival of the fittest, I know somany person has decided to give the day to ajax but I don't succumb to such conclusion because union Berlin has proven beyond reasonable doubt that they are also a team to support , in their recent league matches, since the return of league matches after the international break union Berlin has won all their matches without a draw I see them doing greatly well in this match with a surprising outcome.

Ajax, like Union Berlin, play very well at home. But looking at Berlin's stats, they are in excellent shape, unlike Ajax. But I think that the first game will be in favour of Ajax and the return match will be won by Berlin. It's hard to guess who will go on to the Europa League, but I think it will be Ajax.

Surely there is no perfect prediction about this match but still I have feeling Ajax is much stronger and better team then Union Berlin as they have good experience of playing in UEFA and their quality is also much better than opponents even in last few matches they were performing average, but their recent comeback is amazing which will lead them in this match against Union Berlin as well 1st leg is going to play at Johan Cruijff Arena Amsterdam surely Ajax will start with advantage, but things could be not easy in reply match most chances we will be having winner with the difference of goals because both teams can win their home matches and at the end better team will be in next round of this event.

Ajax is not in the good shape because recently they just sacked Alfred Schreuder because he was failed bringing Ajax to performing well in Eredivisie even possibly Ajax will lost their title this season and now they have new coach John Heitinga but i am not sure about him because Heitinga is lack of experience because before train Ajax he has spend his managerial career to train junior team
Before Ajax faced difficult situations such as now i feel they will be qualified to next stage but after seeing recent situations from them i am a bit doubt they will overcomes Union Berlin and my predictions for this match is Union Berlin will beat Ajax and qualified to round of 16

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despite the good head to head record being enjoyed by Barcelona it is been noted that since 2012 Bacelona has won manchester united 4times against manchester united 1.

This is true that Barcelona have had several wins over Man United , but I do think that this time around it's going to be a different ball game, looking at Man United form and Changes over the years in both clubs. Barcelona had this incredible coach Guardiola and players, Lionel, Xavi, Iniesta and more compared to what they have now, basically a lot of things has changed which could affect the result too.

Yes, it's true that Manchester United can now be said to be in a prime position considering the last 3 games they were able to win, maybe even then Barcelona will accept Manchester United's victory gracefully, and maybe in the minds of the Manchester United squad, Barcelona is not a solid wall that difficult to penetrate or torn down for now.

I think you shall try to understand how wonderful a record is from barcelona against MU. Barcelona is always dominating any matches against MU. Barcelona was only losing once. MU is now in the prime condition. The chance for MU to win the match becomes even bigger since buquets and dembele may absent from the match against MU. that gives MU so many advantages caused by barcelona will be using raphinha as replacement for dembele. Barcelona will not able to perform with the main squads that already made by xavi.
Sabitzer will be playing against barcelona. Weghorst will become the main striker for MU. The unimportant players like Axel Tuanzebe dan Martin Dubravka already removed from the squads for europa league.

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Quote from: lalabotax on February 07, 2023, 06:18:34 PM

Yes, if we look at the head-to-head history between Barcelona and Man United, indeed Barcelona has a superior history with 5x: 1x wins. This might provide more enthusiasm for the Barcelona players.

Barcelona have better head-to-head record against Manchester United and it is one of their advantage with history voice and mentally support for their players. However, they are actually stronger if we count their performance in La Liga, their ranking there with what Manchester United have in Premier League.

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And I'm sure Xavi will not underestimate Man United because he was also a player, and he has to ensure that to the players in his squad.

Xavi is a young coach but he has a long and successful player career with that he has a lot of experience with tough matches. He surely knows how matches can turn around so quickly and in big matches, there is no place for carelessness and subjective contempt.

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What's more, Man United is currently also very on fire after being able to rank in the top 3 in the EPL. But on the other hand, Barcelona is also in very good condition this season, they certainly also have the same hopes to hold this European League trophy. So, it will be a very interesting match compared to matches from other clubs.

With latest performances of Manchester United after World Cup 2022, Ten Hag and his players are bringing more challenge to Barcelona. Their matches will be so exciting between two teams which have very excellent forms recently.

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Quote from: asriloni on February 07, 2023, 12:11:26 PM

barcelona was dominating head to head against united. This gonna be a huge challenge for manchester united. Manchester united was always dominated by barcelona when it came to gameplay. It's now time for ten hag to prove the new united that is ready to defeat barcelona in europa league.

Yes, if we look at the head-to-head history between Barcelona and Man United, indeed Barcelona has a superior history with 5x: 1x wins. This might provide more enthusiasm for the Barcelona players. And I'm sure Xavi will not underestimate Man United because he was also a player, and he has to ensure that to the players in his squad. What's more, Man United is currently also very on fire after being able to rank in the top 3 in the EPL. But on the other hand, Barcelona is also in very good condition this season, they certainly also have the same hopes to hold this European League trophy. So, it will be a very interesting match compared to matches from other clubs.

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Barcelona meeting with Manchester United in Europa will be a match that will be decided in the football pitch despite the good head to head record being enjoyed by Barcelona it is been noted that since 2012 Bacelona has won manchester united 4times against manchester united 1, we shouldnt take the away team which is Manchester United for granted because they are much in form in their league side so in this game we shouldn't totally bank on Barca unless we are looking at home advantage and to me that doesnt count this time.

barcelona was dominating head to head against united. This gonna be a huge challenge for manchester united. Manchester united was always dominated by barcelona when it came to gameplay. It's now time for ten hag to prove the new united that is ready to defeat barcelona in europa league. Barcelona will be losing some important players like dembele and busquets. This gives so many advantages to manchester united over barcelona. I think that if barcelona is also fully prepared by doing some rotations.
MU needs to pass barcelona in the play-off to be a winner in europa league.

Although Barcelona has had a significant advantage in previous head-to-head meetings, Manchester United may see this as their opportunity to show that they can compete with the best clubs in Europe. United may have a good chance to pull ahead now that several important players are sidelined, including Dembele and Busquets. However, with smart substitutions, Barcelona might still be a threat.

I think this game will be a good indicator of how far Manchester United has come under Ten Hag and whether or not they will continue to progress in the coming weeks. If United wants to win the Europa League, they need to make sure they give their best against Barcelona. Due to each squad's desire to establish itself as Europe's best, this should be an exciting contest.

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Quote from: hahay on February 07, 2023, 01:44:24 PM

By the way, I'm also quite curious about the final result of the match between Sevilla v PSV, considering that both teams this season in their respective local leagues are experiencing a decline in performance. Indeed, PSV is not as bad as Sevilla but because of the difference in competition in their local league, then maybe I would consider their quality at this moment to be not much different.

For me, this match will still be interesting to look forward to even though indeed, their chances of being able to go further will still be difficult and may not have a good chance for them.

Even Sevilla is not performing good in La Liga but here in this competition we can expect interesting match because with recent performance Sevilla is undefeated in five games at home and their last match against Barcelona was also not bad as they were before break which is giving impression they are improving and with this performance they can hold PSV in their first leg game which is going to play in Spain and PSV which is also struggling in Dutch league and right now having fourth spot and after selling their top rank players are also having decline in performance most chances they could be not easy opposition for the Sevilla but still have not good chance for the qualification into next round of the Europa Cup.

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Ajax will be hosting the German side union berlin in a football battle that I tag survival of the fittest, I know somany person has decided to give the day to ajax but I don't succumb to such conclusion because union Berlin has proven beyond reasonable doubt that they are also a team to support , in their recent league matches, since the return of league matches after the international break union Berlin has won all their matches without a draw I see them doing greatly well in this match with a surprising outcome.

Ajax, like Union Berlin, play very well at home. But looking at Berlin's stats, they are in excellent shape, unlike Ajax. But I think that the first game will be in favour of Ajax and the return match will be won by Berlin. It's hard to guess who will go on to the Europa League, but I think it will be Ajax.

Surely there is no perfect prediction about this match but still I have feeling Ajax is much stronger and better team then Union Berlin as they have good experience of playing in UEFA and their quality is also much better than opponents even in last few matches they were performing average, but their recent comeback is amazing which will lead them in this match against Union Berlin as well 1st leg is going to play at Johan Cruijff Arena Amsterdam surely Ajax will start with advantage, but things could be not easy in reply match most chances we will be having winner with the difference of goals because both teams can win their home matches and at the end better team will be in next round of this event.

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despite the good head to head record being enjoyed by Barcelona it is been noted that since 2012 Bacelona has won manchester united 4times against manchester united 1.

This is true that Barcelona have had several wins over Man United , but I do think that this time around it's going to be a different ball game, looking at Man United form and Changes over the years in both clubs. Barcelona had this incredible coach Guardiola and players, Lionel, Xavi, Iniesta and more compared to what they have now, basically a lot of things has changed which could affect the result too.

Yes, it's true that Manchester United can now be said to be in a prime position considering the last 3 games they were able to win, maybe even then Barcelona will accept Manchester United's victory gracefully, and maybe in the minds of the Manchester United squad, Barcelona is not a solid wall that difficult to penetrate or torn down for now.

They have played tough matches in the Premier league and currently the third place Manchester United team. It will be very true to say that it will be a difficult match for Barcelona. Manchester United will do their best. The team that passes the round advances enough to go to the championship, but everyone is eagerly waiting for the match right now.

From history of matches played these two teams against each other at Camp Nuo, Barca has good heads over Manchester united but I guess that was in the previous years and not presently that Eric Hag is the coach of the club.

The match will be very interesting and full of surprises because both clubs are strong enough to play each other. Xavi has being trying his best to put his club in a good form, which he has achieved recently,but I think Manchester united has a good defense and it will be hard for Barca to penetrate their defense. Barca has a weak defense which makes this a disadvantage for them to win, if Xavi can't work on it before the match day.

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Quote from: Iranus on February 07, 2023, 11:48:42 AM

Arsenal's performance is very stable. And if they can continue such a streak of performances in the Europa League then they are capable of winning the title. They have this ability. Arsenal have managed to maintain their dominance in competitive leagues like the Premier League. And all this is possible because of coach Arteta's match strategy. He can make the players confident. And so despite not having many star players, Arsenal is performing well in every match. I think Arsenal will qualify for the Europa League final.

Arsenal at his best with most chances we will have both English clubs are favorite for the title race here in this event because both are doing their homework properly and want to win this title even we also have few more teams which can create interesting changes but still these both English teams are playing with better strategy and consistency which is helping them for having better results in both leagues.

Currently, Arsenal is having enough depth in their squad and their consistency is also key for them with their last game which they lost against Everton is surely wake-up call for them, hopefully now Arteta will check his mistakes before next big game and fix the problems which will help them for having better results in coming matches.

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Quote from: hahay on February 07, 2023, 01:44:24 PM

By the way, I'm also quite curious about the final result of the match between Sevilla v PSV, considering that both teams this season in their respective local leagues are experiencing a decline in performance. Indeed, PSV is not as bad as Sevilla but because of the difference in competition in their local league, then maybe I would consider their quality at this moment to be not much different.

PSV is not performing as badly as Sevilla. Sevilla's performance is very bad. The entire group is now in a weak state. Their weaknesses in attack, midfield, and forward are all very visible. We saw Sevilla's poor performance against Barcelona in the last match. PSV's overall position is much stronger than Sevilla's. Against PSV we will see Sevilla's defensive gameplay. They will play defensively and try to draw the match. Because Sevilla's coach is well aware of his squad's weaknesses. The Sevilla team will definitely be defeated if they play an attacking strategy.

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By the way, I'm also quite curious about the final result of the match between Sevilla v PSV, considering that both teams this season in their respective local leagues are experiencing a decline in performance. Indeed, PSV is not as bad as Sevilla but because of the difference in competition in their local league, then maybe I would consider their quality at this moment to be not much different.

For me, this match will still be interesting to look forward to even though indeed, their chances of being able to go further will still be difficult and may not have a good chance for them.

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I watched Arsenal's matches in EL and in the Premier League, and I will say that Arteta did not spend much energy on EL, either he thought that this was enough for opponents of this level, or this tournament was not very important for him.

After seeing the performance achievements of his players this season, I think Mikel Arteta will continue to use the same game in the Europa League against his opponents later and maybe it is true that he will not be serious for the Europa League this season because they have a more real target, namely winning the EPL title this season. But if Arsenal can also win the Europa League this season, of course it is an extraordinary achievement.

Arsenal's performance is very stable. And if they can continue such a streak of performances in the Europa League then they are capable of winning the title. They have this ability. Arsenal have managed to maintain their dominance in competitive leagues like the Premier League. And all this is possible because of coach Arteta's match strategy. He can make the players confident. And so despite not having many star players, Arsenal is performing well in every match. I think Arsenal will qualify for the Europa League final.

The words that often come out of Mikel Arteta's mouth are Believe in the process and it seems that has permeated all of The Gunners' players this season. They are so difficult to stop and it is even undeniable that as a young coach Mikel Arteta can concoct a good strategy with young arsenal players and that is very rare for a club.

I think the role of captain Martin Odegaard is currently also the most influential on the team, he is one of the most talented young midfielders at the moment and looking for players is unlikely to be easy for other clubs, it seems that Arsenal are very lucky to have Martin Odegaard. To go to the Europa League final I will also be very sure about that.

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despite the good head to head record being enjoyed by Barcelona it is been noted that since 2012 Bacelona has won manchester united 4times against manchester united 1.

This is true that Barcelona have had several wins over Man United , but I do think that this time around it's going to be a different ball game, looking at Man United form and Changes over the years in both clubs. Barcelona had this incredible coach Guardiola and players, Lionel, Xavi, Iniesta and more compared to what they have now, basically a lot of things has changed which could affect the result too.

Yes, it's true that Manchester United can now be said to be in a prime position considering the last 3 games they were able to win, maybe even then Barcelona will accept Manchester United's victory gracefully, and maybe in the minds of the Manchester United squad, Barcelona is not a solid wall that difficult to penetrate or torn down for now.

They have played tough matches in the Premier league and currently the third place Manchester United team. It will be very true to say that it will be a difficult match for Barcelona. Manchester United will do their best. The team that passes the round advances enough to go to the championship, but everyone is eagerly waiting for the match right now.

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despite the good head to head record being enjoyed by Barcelona it is been noted that since 2012 Bacelona has won manchester united 4times against manchester united 1.

This is true that Barcelona have had several wins over Man United , but I do think that this time around it's going to be a different ball game, looking at Man United form and Changes over the years in both clubs. Barcelona had this incredible coach Guardiola and players, Lionel, Xavi, Iniesta and more compared to what they have now, basically a lot of things has changed which could affect the result too.

Yes, it's true that Manchester United can now be said to be in a prime position considering the last 3 games they were able to win, maybe even then Barcelona will accept Manchester United's victory gracefully, and maybe in the minds of the Manchester United squad, Barcelona is not a solid wall that difficult to penetrate or torn down for now.

IMO, if we now consider the overall performance of Barcelona and Manchester United then we have to accept that Barcelona's performance is stronger and more consistent than Manchester United's. But Manchester United is a strong team now. Coach Ten Hag has been able to strengthen this team. Manchester United's attacking players are now able to play well. On the other hand, although Barcelona's overall performance is good, their defense is still weak. And if this weakness cannot be overcome, it is difficult to win against the big teams. I believe Xavi is working on strengthening his defense now. And in the match against Manchester United, we will see a stable defense of Barcelona.

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Quote from: minime0105 on February 07, 2023, 07:43:06 AM

despite the good head to head record being enjoyed by Barcelona it is been noted that since 2012 Bacelona has won manchester united 4times against manchester united 1.

This is true that Barcelona have had several wins over Man United , but I do think that this time around it's going to be a different ball game, looking at Man United form and Changes over the years in both clubs. Barcelona had this incredible coach Guardiola and players, Lionel, Xavi, Iniesta and more compared to what they have now, basically a lot of things has changed which could affect the result too.

Yes, it's true that Manchester United can now be said to be in a prime position considering the last 3 games they were able to win, maybe even then Barcelona will accept Manchester United's victory gracefully, and maybe in the minds of the Manchester United squad, Barcelona is not a solid wall that difficult to penetrate or torn down for now.

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Quote from: minime0105 on February 07, 2023, 07:43:06 AM

Barcelona meeting with Manchester United in Europa will be a match that will be decided in the football pitch despite the good head to head record being enjoyed by Barcelona it is been noted that since 2012 Bacelona has won manchester united 4times against manchester united 1, we shouldnt take the away team which is Manchester United for granted because they are much in form in their league side so in this game we shouldn't totally bank on Barca unless we are looking at home advantage and to me that doesnt count this time.

barcelona was dominating head to head against united. This gonna be a huge challenge for manchester united. Manchester united was always dominated by barcelona when it came to gameplay. It's now time for ten hag to prove the new united that is ready to defeat barcelona in europa league. Barcelona will be losing some important players like dembele and busquets. This gives so many advantages to manchester united over barcelona. I think that if barcelona is also fully prepared by doing some rotations.
MU needs to pass barcelona in the play-off to be a winner in europa league.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on February 07, 2023, 11:53:24 AM

For Barcelona vs United,

Both teams have very good home records and will have the advantage whenever they play at home. The first Leg will bein Camp Nou and Barcelona will most likely win that, and if they must win, It has to be by a good goal margin to give them a good advantage before they head to Old Trafford for the second Leg where Manchester United will have the upper hand. Manchester United on the other hand will be looking not concede many goals so they can have a good chance in the second leg.

Quote from: rahmad2nd on February 07, 2023, 11:53:24 AM

I hope Arsenal can win the Europa League trophy.

Hope we can as well, so we can have two titles this season, the EPL and the Europa, It will be very well deserved for the level of hard work the team and coach has put in.

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