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Preferring the Premier League doesn't mean Arsenal have to forget the Europa League, because as long as Arsenal are able to get good results for both of them this season, it won't be wrong to do so even though it won't be so easy for Arsenal. But I see that there are better developments in the Arsenal team this season so that Arsenal will definitely be able to fight for those two very good trophies (the Premier League trophy and the Europa League trophy).

Can Arsenal kill two bird's with a stone
Maybe they can but not with the premier league and Europa league
They need to put in more work so they can at least win the league

Anything can happen if Arsenal are able to maintain their quality, after successfully shaping their squad to be better than in previous years, Arsenal are ready to compete to kill the birds in front of them. Arteta's role was very influential on Arsenal's appearance, he as a strategist in the Arsenal squad could not be careless in his throws, birds had to be dropped one after another to reach targets that they had not gotten for a long time.

Anyway, when there is an opportunity to be able to progress better with the expected results, then of course they will continue to maximize the opportunities in the moments they get. There is no term Arsenal has to choose one of them, unless there is no more hope for Arsenal between the Premier League and the European League, then Arsenal will probably choose one of them to maximize.
But so far, Arsena's chances are still very open and therefore, it would not be right for Arsenal to only focus on one of the Premier League or the European League.

Basically, Arsenal do have a good chance this season, but I personally think that when one or several of Arsneal's main players are injured, it will immediately have a negative impact on the team's performance.
So yes, I can assume that if Arsenal's main squad is still doing well or staying healthy during this season, then Arsenal's chance to win the title is very likely to happen. But if one of Arsenal's main players get injured, then I'm not entirely sure Arsenal will be able to win the title.

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Quote from: D-law on November 27, 2022, 05:13:44 AM

Can Arsenal kill two bird's with a stone
Maybe they can but not with the premier league and Europa league
They need to put in more work so they can at least win the league

Manchester City is Arsenal's main enemy in the Premier League
Meanwhile in the Europa League, several teams such as Real Sociedad, Freiburg, Betis will be at the forefront of prevent Arsenal from winning the Europa League title this season. So far I'm still pretty sure Arsenal are the strongest candidate in the Europa League

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Nantes should be really careful in the Ligue 1 while they are competing in the Europa League at the same time. Because it seems like they are focused on the Europa League much more these days. I understand this of course as they don't have this chance every season. But focusing on this tournament too much can cause them to be relegated from the Ligue 1 as well.

They are already very near the relegation zone. On the other hand their opponent in this stage of the Europa League is Juventus. Most probably Juventus will eliminate them. After that I guess Nantes would start pulling themselves together in the Ligue 1.

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Nantes is a low tier team. I see that if juventus can beat it easily. I will always take juventus in the match against nantes. Seeing a top club from serie a to face a low tier team like nantes makes me believe if juventus can win with so many scores against nantes. I don't wanna underrated nantes but the truth has been saying the fact if nantes was nothing compared with juventus in term of statistic of something else. Nantes will be stopped by juventus in the europa league and juventus will able to pass nantes without any problem.

I agree with your assessment (except that Juventus will definitely win - underdogs sometimes win). Now in Ligue 1 there is one top club - PSG and all the rest. Among the rest there are good teams but they are not comparable to the tops of Serie A and Juventus despite its problems are still top. But as I wrote above, underdogs sometimes win, and especially in elimination games, as it requires a little bit of luck for just two games.

PSG has always been and is the best in Ligue 1. The best club in Ligue 1 is PSG. PSG have the most expensive attacking unit, capable of breaking through any big defense and scoring goals. I am sure that PSG will win the Ligue 1 title again this time.

If no accident happens then PSG will win the Ligue 1 title this time. They are 5 points ahead of second-placed Lens. and 10 points ahead of third-placed Rennes. And PSG is unbeaten in 15 matches. They have one of the best attacks in the world. And they are able to score a lot of goals. So now PSG is more interested in the Champions League title than Ligue 1.

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Preferring the Premier League doesn't mean Arsenal have to forget the Europa League, because as long as Arsenal are able to get good results for both of them this season, it won't be wrong to do so even though it won't be so easy for Arsenal. But I see that there are better developments in the Arsenal team this season so that Arsenal will definitely be able to fight for those two very good trophies (the Premier League trophy and the Europa League trophy).

Can Arsenal kill two bird's with a stone
Maybe they can but not with the premier league and Europa league
They need to put in more work so they can at least win the league

Anything can happen if Arsenal are able to maintain their quality, after successfully shaping their squad to be better than in previous years, Arsenal are ready to compete to kill the birds in front of them. Arteta's role was very influential on Arsenal's appearance, he as a strategist in the Arsenal squad could not be careless in his throws, birds had to be dropped one after another to reach targets that they had not gotten for a long time.

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Nantes is a low tier team. I see that if juventus can beat it easily. I will always take juventus in the match against nantes. Seeing a top club from serie a to face a low tier team like nantes makes me believe if juventus can win with so many scores against nantes. I don't wanna underrated nantes but the truth has been saying the fact if nantes was nothing compared with juventus in term of statistic of something else. Nantes will be stopped by juventus in the europa league and juventus will able to pass nantes without any problem.

I agree with your assessment (except that Juventus will definitely win - underdogs sometimes win). Now in Ligue 1 there is one top club - PSG and all the rest. Among the rest there are good teams but they are not comparable to the tops of Serie A and Juventus despite its problems are still top. But as I wrote above, underdogs sometimes win, and especially in elimination games, as it requires a little bit of luck for just two games.

PSG has always been and is the best in Ligue 1. The best club in Ligue 1 is PSG. PSG have the most expensive attacking unit, capable of breaking through any big defense and scoring goals. I am sure that PSG will win the Ligue 1 title again this time.

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Quote from: Ratash on November 27, 2022, 09:01:50 AM

A lot of good games in the europa league play offs such as Rennes vs shakhtar , rennes is doing great in the last couple of years and shakhtar team has a good history in european competitions its a tough game to predict but i give a slight advantage to Rennes team just because of their players quality.

Shakhtar went into the Europa League play offs as they failed to compete with Real Madrid and RB Leipzig in the Champions League group stage. Meanwhile, Rennes could not compete with Fenerbache in the European League group phase. It is true that this match will be very difficult to predict because both teams are in good condition in their respective domestic leagues, it's just that they cannot compete in higher events such as the Champions League and Europa League so that puts them to get rid of each other in this round.

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Quote from: makishart on November 27, 2022, 05:05:05 AM

Nantes is a low tier team. I see that if juventus can beat it easily. I will always take juventus in the match against nantes. Seeing a top club from serie a to face a low tier team like nantes makes me believe if juventus can win with so many scores against nantes. I don't wanna underrated nantes but the truth has been saying the fact if nantes was nothing compared with juventus in term of statistic of something else. Nantes will be stopped by juventus in the europa league and juventus will able to pass nantes without any problem.

I agree with your assessment (except that Juventus will definitely win - underdogs sometimes win). Now in Ligue 1 there is one top club - PSG and all the rest. Among the rest there are good teams but they are not comparable to the tops of Serie A and Juventus despite its problems are still top. But as I wrote above, underdogs sometimes win, and especially in elimination games, as it requires a little bit of luck for just two games.

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A lot of good games in the europa league play offs such as Rennes vs shakhtar , rennes is doing great in the last couple of years and shakhtar team has a good history in european competitions its a tough game to predict but i give a slight advantage to Rennes team just because of their players quality.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 27, 2022, 06:34:19 AM

and as I said in the previous post, Arsenal have crucial games in the second half of the season in the Premier League. the reason, as we know before. often times, Arsenal underperformed after entering the second half of the season. like it or not, Arteta must prepare his troops to continue to appear consistently until the end of this season and add ammunition in the winter transfer window later. the Europa League trophy is the second plan, after progressing smoothly in the domestic league.

There is something they have to defend when undergoing the second half of the Premier League. Preparation, concentration and mentality will really help them to stay at their best at the moment. It was a golden opportunity that came their way and ended with their convincing game. It would be a shame if they had to be knocked out at the end of the competition. Not a problem when they have a very wide number of points than their competitors, but it is a big problem because the Premier League is a very competitive League.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 25, 2022, 10:38:53 PM

I think if Arsenal can make a few more suitable signings in the January window they will have more options in different positions in the team and will be able to compete in both competitions without the fear of burning out their key players with the large number and tight schedule of games but I will also advice to focus more on the league where they already have a bigger opportunity to win it than in the Europa league.

Arteta has planned to bring in several young players who are no less talented than the Gunners' core players. Like it or not, Arteta has to bring in several new players in the January transfer window to smooth out his mission of winning two trophies at once this season. as you said, Arsenal will have many options to compete in two competitions at once without having to always rely on their 11 main players continuously. however, Arteta's attention will be more focused on their domestic league.

and as I said in the previous post, Arsenal have crucial games in the second half of the season in the Premier League. the reason, as we know before. often times, Arsenal underperformed after entering the second half of the season. like it or not, Arteta must prepare his troops to continue to appear consistently until the end of this season and add ammunition in the winter transfer window later. the Europa League trophy is the second plan, after progressing smoothly in the domestic league.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 27, 2022, 02:53:21 AM

I have said it before and I am happy you are reasoning my way. Arteta should not risk this great opportunity to lift the English Premier League. Arsenal doesn't have a good squad depth to win both the Europa and English league. I am not saying that they should deliberately crash out of the Europa League but I am saying that Arteta should give more priority to English Premier League than Europa league in terms of player selections and concentrations.

Preferring the Premier League doesn't mean Arsenal have to forget the Europa League, because as long as Arsenal are able to get good results for both of them this season, it won't be wrong to do so even though it won't be so easy for Arsenal. But I see that there are better developments in the Arsenal team this season so that Arsenal will definitely be able to fight for those two very good trophies (the Premier League trophy and the Europa League trophy).

Can Arsenal kill two bird's with a stone
Maybe they can but not with the premier league and Europa league
They need to put in more work so they can at least win the league

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Nantes is not an equal opponent for Juventus, Allegri's squad will definitely win this match easily. But I would like to remind Juventus not to let their opponents down this time, if they don't want something bad to happen to them at the end of the game. This is their chance to easily play in the next round. Because when compared to other teams like Manchester United and Barcelona who have to beat each other in this round, Juventus have a very comfortable situation. Especially with the return of several players who have just recovered from injury, this is good news for their squad.
After the World Cup is over, they are very likely to appear with the full squad and no longer have to reason that many of their players are injured.

Indeed, some of their matches in the Champions League this season have been very bad, but when you look at the current conditions with several players recovering and Juventus' performance in the last 6 matches in Serie A always winning, their chance is still very big now.
Nantes is one of the clubs that was unexpected in my opinion but when compared to Juventus at this time it is clear that there will be big hopes for Juventus in this Playoff.

Nantes is a low tier team. I see that if juventus can beat it easily. I will always take juventus in the match against nantes. Seeing a top club from serie a to face a low tier team like nantes makes me believe if juventus can win with so many scores against nantes. I don't wanna underrated nantes but the truth has been saying the fact if nantes was nothing compared with juventus in term of statistic of something else. Nantes will be stopped by juventus in the europa league and juventus will able to pass nantes without any problem.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 27, 2022, 02:53:21 AM

I have said it before and I am happy you are reasoning my way. Arteta should not risk this great opportunity to lift the English Premier League. Arsenal doesn't have a good squad depth to win both the Europa and English league. I am not saying that they should deliberately crash out of the Europa League but I am saying that Arteta should give more priority to English Premier League than Europa league in terms of player selections and concentrations.

Preferring the Premier League doesn't mean Arsenal have to forget the Europa League, because as long as Arsenal are able to get good results for both of them this season, it won't be wrong to do so even though it won't be so easy for Arsenal. But I see that there are better developments in the Arsenal team this season so that Arsenal will definitely be able to fight for those two very good trophies (the Premier League trophy and the Europa League trophy).

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@fullhdpixel even if Arsenal buy more player’s then too they should not bother about winning the Europa League, because this is a golden opportunity for them to win the premier league and they should not ruin it by focusing on Thursday night football. Also buying player’s in January is always difficult and Arsenal will have to pay a premium to land any of their target’s, hence I’m not expecting them to secure all their target’s in January transfer window.

I have said it before and I am happy you are reasoning my way. Arteta should not risk this great opportunity to lift the English Premier League. Arsenal doesn't have a good squad depth to win both the Europa and English league. I am not saying that they should deliberately crash out of the Europa League but I am saying that Arteta should give more priority to English Premier League than Europa league in terms of player selections and concentrations.

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This will be a good opportunity for Juventus to make sure they move on to the next phase because in the play-off round they will face Nantes, which incidentally this season Nantes is not playing well. Nantes could only finish in second place with 3 wins and 3 defeats by creating 6 goals and conceding 11 times. Even though Juventus are currently in a state that cannot be said to be good, if they are compared to Nantes, of course they are much better.

Nantes would become easy opponent for juventus. Nantest was a small team and juventus can wipe it easily from the europa league but juventus must play with its best performance to make sure if it can secure a position to go to the next round. Loosing against nantes will be hurting the name of juventus as a big team in the europa league. That will be a big shame for juventus if nantes will win against juventus. juventus will be gambling its big name in the match against a small team like nantes.

With the form Juventus are in now, if they can maintain this form after the break, Juventus should be able to easily win against Nantes. Nantes are not a tough team. Juventus have no chance of dropping points against Nantes unless they make a big mistake. But Serie A as well as Europa League matches must be taken seriously. Otherwise, Juventus will not be able to qualify for the final.

In the last five game from Juventus I have seen a fine form from them ready to win game's in the new round
Yes I am in with you together Juventus are not loosing to Nantes
Also in Seria A games they will finish top four.

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Honestly, when Barcelona works hard enough, they will be able to beat Real Madrid, but for now I think they shouldn't have too many illusions about winning the League, yes, they are winning the League, it's because Real Madrid has allowed them to, and for now Real Madrid things are going very well in the UCL, which is something very big, for now the League is something that Real Madrid can once again take first place in the table, Barcelona have to focus more of their energies on the Europa League to see if they enter back to the UCL season, but they have it very strong because Man United, despite the fact that their spirits are very low because of CR7, I think they can come to play with everything.

Man United want to get back to the UCL no matter what, and the only thing on their mind is to have a lot of wins, this is where they need to focus a lot more.

What do you mean by "Real Madrid allowed them". Barcelona has been playing well so have Real Madrid. So for Barcelona to be top of the table it's because they work hard for it because Madrid is not giving them an easy run. Barcelona only got knocked out of the ucl because of injury and some bad tactics.
To me they have a better chance winning the league than the Europa. They play well in their league matches. They've won 12, drawn 1 and lost 1 out of 14 matches, that's pretty impressive. The difference between them and Real Madrid is that Madrid have draw 2 matches.

I do not think that Real Madrid really "allowed" anyone to be the first, they are playing well, they haven't lost or got a tie that commonly, they are playing well, the difference is that Barcelona is playing even better.

This is why I believe that we are going to end up seeing Barcelona win the title this year. On the other hand, if Barcelona still goes on to finals and win Europa cup, while Real Madrid somehow manages to lose both domestic cup and UCL at the same time, then we are going to see Real focus only to league, while Barcelona focusing on many other competitions and there could be some trouble there for sure, which will create a trouble for them.

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Arsenal shouldn't kill two bird's with a single stone and I disagree if they can with the same set of players the transfer window would be open soon, I do hope they can sign player's to back the once they have currently because injuries can also happen and it will cause harm in the long run. If they can they should just focus on the Premier League. Europa league will be very strong when the next season begins

I think if Arsenal can make a few more suitable signings in the January window they will have more options in different positions in the team and will be able to compete in both competitions without the fear of burning out their key players with the large number and tight schedule of games but I will also advice to focus more on the league where they already have a bigger opportunity to win it than in the Europa league.

In last few days we have updates as Arteta and Arsenal management are working on many players specially they are interested in two big players one from Brazil and second from Bayern Munich with most chances they could be able to have positive updates about this in coming winter transfer window and this is going to be big boost for them after this break because now things are going to be tough for all teams this break is going to have good changes for many teams which can bring good changes in all league tables.

Arsenal is currently at the top of the league table with not big difference, and they need to have good back up with good quality players which bring good improvement and their chances for the title also increased in this season.

@fullhdpixel even if Arsenal buy more player’s then too they should not bother about winning the Europa League, because this is a golden opportunity for them to win the premier league and they should not ruin it by focusing on Thursday night football. Also buying player’s in January is always difficult and Arsenal will have to pay a premium to land any of their target’s, hence I’m not expecting them to secure all their target’s in January transfer window.

Arsenal is a good team. They are doing well, but agree with you. If Arsenal add some fast footballers in their team, then Arsenal team can perform well. Besides, all the players in the team have to learn new techniques.

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This will be a good opportunity for Juventus to make sure they move on to the next phase because in the play-off round they will face Nantes, which incidentally this season Nantes is not playing well. Nantes could only finish in second place with 3 wins and 3 defeats by creating 6 goals and conceding 11 times. Even though Juventus are currently in a state that cannot be said to be good, if they are compared to Nantes, of course they are much better.

Nantes would become easy opponent for juventus. Nantest was a small team and juventus can wipe it easily from the europa league but juventus must play with its best performance to make sure if it can secure a position to go to the next round. Loosing against nantes will be hurting the name of juventus as a big team in the europa league. That will be a big shame for juventus if nantes will win against juventus. juventus will be gambling its big name in the match against a small team like nantes.

If i am not mistaken Nantes was playing at europa league not because they finish at top 5 on France league and they can playing at this competition because Nantes is the champion of France cup last season so automatically they will playing at group stage and surprisingly Nantes can able to qualified to round of 16 after finish on runner up position under Freiburg but they weren't lucky because get strong opponent Juventus

At France league Nantes is the team who still fight to avoid relegation zone and they had poor performance at their domestic league with only gets 2 wins from 15 matches and compared to Juventus i think obviously Juventus is far to better than them so Juventus will get easy opponent this time and if Juventus can playing well i think beat Nantes shouldn't be big problem for them and i would be shocked if Juventus failed to win from Nantes

Juventus is a volo team, they have a lot of good tactical players in their team who are serving Juventus very well. However, before the World Cup, Juventus performed somewhat poorly. However, after the World Cup, they will come back in a big way.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 25, 2022, 11:36:17 AM

This will be a good opportunity for Juventus to make sure they move on to the next phase because in the play-off round they will face Nantes, which incidentally this season Nantes is not playing well. Nantes could only finish in second place with 3 wins and 3 defeats by creating 6 goals and conceding 11 times. Even though Juventus are currently in a state that cannot be said to be good, if they are compared to Nantes, of course they are much better.

Nantes would become easy opponent for juventus. Nantest was a small team and juventus can wipe it easily from the europa league but juventus must play with its best performance to make sure if it can secure a position to go to the next round. Loosing against nantes will be hurting the name of juventus as a big team in the europa league. That will be a big shame for juventus if nantes will win against juventus. juventus will be gambling its big name in the match against a small team like nantes.

If i am not mistaken Nantes was playing at europa league not because they finish at top 5 on France league and they can playing at this competition because Nantes is the champion of France cup last season so automatically they will playing at group stage and surprisingly Nantes can able to qualified to round of 16 after finish on runner up position under Freiburg but they weren't lucky because get strong opponent Juventus

At France league Nantes is the team who still fight to avoid relegation zone and they had poor performance at their domestic league with only gets 2 wins from 15 matches and compared to Juventus i think obviously Juventus is far to better than them so Juventus will get easy opponent this time and if Juventus can playing well i think beat Nantes shouldn't be big problem for them and i would be shocked if Juventus failed to win from Nantes

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