UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 366.

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Ten Hag played too much in personal showdowns, but Ronaldol is not a boy to endure in silence. Now Ronaldo is leaving United in the winter window (I'm 99.99% sure of that) and I'll see what excuses and "person to blame all the trouble" he comes up with if United continue to show an average game. In general, after Ronaldo's interview, it is clear that there are systemic problems in United and their results are natural. The club has lagged behind advanced competitors, but the owners are not very worried about this.

It's strange that the owners of the club don't even want to change, it looks like they like the way things are, the team plays poorly, doesn't have good results, and cristiano ronaldo had a lot of courage to say something obvious, I don't know why the club does not change. they can see a good example coming from newcastle, they can see a good example from city which are clubs that were bought and have good results and play well. with this fight between ronaldo and the club it is already guaranteed that ronaldo will not play again for manchester united after the world cup, almost all tv commentators are talking about it

It is not known for what purpose United was bought. Maybe the owners thought it was an oil refinery type asset where the pumps needed to be changed occasionally and it would continue to generate titles and profits so they didn't make sure United kept up with the competition. Maybe they were waiting for the Super League, and now that this project is probably over, they have no motivation to deal with the club (by the way, the sale of Liverpool fits well into this theory).

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 18, 2022, 05:49:43 PM

Honestly I don't expect a surprise this season because there are even more big teams in the Europa League compared to the previous season. One of them will be eliminated certainly after the Barcelona - Manchester United matchup though but there will still be many left.

The Europa League has become as competitive as the Champions League this season. Several Renowned teams are performing in the Europa League this season. And so it is difficult to predict which team will win the title. However, a team between Manchester United and Barcelona will be eliminated in the next round. But also big teams like Roma, Ajax, Arsenal, PSV, and Juventus will play in Europa League. And so it is very difficult to say which team will win the title.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 17, 2022, 12:54:27 PM

I think you rush with it. Saying that Juventus and Barcelona are strong teams who will become champions, even though it's true, you have to remember that they also have to go through a Play off first. Apart from that, don't forget that Arsenal are ready to wait in the last 16, so to say that no other team is aiming for the championship, I think it is a big mistake.
Not to mention that there are surprise clubs like Betis or Freiburg which incidentally are strong in the group phase. does not rule out the possibility that this season there will be unexpected things like when last season Frankfurt, which was not the underdog, managed to lift the trophy.

You have made a good point there. Frankfurt were really not one of the expected teams to reach the title in the previous season but they did it. The Europa League is always open for a surprise because of that. On the other hand we have witnessed big teams winning the title most of the time as well. Frankfurt just finished this series. I know that Villarreal also won the title but they were already one of the strong teams in that season.

Honestly I don't expect a surprise this season because there are even more big teams in the Europa League compared to the previous season. One of them will be eliminated certainly after the Barcelona - Manchester United matchup though but there will still be many left.

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It'll be like last season when they lost and got kicked out by German side
Maybe same will be repeated as Xavi don't have plans to defend the Europa League in anyway
Barcelona should focus on winning La Liga rather than playing too many game's for Europa League

I think otherwise, because in the Europa League they have a very good chance to win the title this season. They must not miss the opportunity that comes to them, because they have been fasting for the title. Xavi Hernandez must be able to take advantage of their opportunities here, La Liga must be the first choice, but they should provide a good portion of this Europa League competition. However now they were approached by a sizable opportunity.

Barcelona are now fully working towards becoming La Liga champions. Xavi is working more on the team's weaknesses. Because if Real Madrid is the opponent, you have to work very hard to win the match.

No doubt since europa league was not a good trophy to be won and barcelona potentially lose against another team and then the only trophy that is still possible to be won by barcelona must be la liga. It's caused by it needs only to be consistent to win any match to win this trophy unlike once you are competing in the competition like champion league or europa league where you must working so hard to win against another team to make sure if you will be going step by step to the final and got the trophy.
That's why xavi was focusing to win the la liga for this season caused by it's his chance to not be sacked by laporta. His performance was the worst in the history of barcelona.

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Let's wait for unusual performances in the Europa League this season from those on the list of clubs participating in the Europa League. For some clubs they have to play a play off match first, and for some others they have been waiting for their next opponent in the knockout phase. Clubs that are now seeded are also seeded in domestic leagues such as Arsenal and Barcelona. I agree they will put their domestic league first and after that they will put the Europa League. No wonder because many see that the Europa League is not more prestigious than their respective leagues.

Still not excited yet with Europe League right now because waiting with play off match result and several team qualify to next round trough first standing position finished waiting their opponent after play off match result. Loss bigger team early between Manchester United or Barcelona after both team face on play off round, I think Manchester United vs Barcelona happening at semifinal or final stage but failure finish on first standing make United have been in play off round before qualifying to next round.

Arsenal have consistency performance on domestic league in this season and have favorite lead to final in Europe League, still don't know about who opponent team for Arsenal on next round and I won't if big match happen on early stage.

You are right about Manchester United and Barcelona, their meeting was rushed because they had to beat each other in the play offs. Ideally they meet at least in round 8. However, Manchester United's failure to make a comeback in their last game saw them have to go through the play-offs first, and unfortunately again the draw indicated that Barcelona would be their opponents. . It will be one of the biggest matches in the Europa League this season despite taking place in the play-offs.

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Now it is assumed that the Europa League is not too prioritized for big clubs, it seems that this season is a little different because of the pressure that is on the Europa League by looking at the clubs that are currently contestants, it is clear that it will definitely be exciting and of course it will bring in quite a lot of money.
Especially for Arteta, Xavi or Ten Hag this can be proof because the club they are currently training needs proof with trophies, especially for Barcelona and Arsenal who have spent quite a lot of money in player transfers.

The main goal of the big clubs is their league title and the Champions League. But this season is a little different. Many big clubs are now performing in Europe leagues. But still the main sign of every team is its own league title. Barcelona and Arsenal will be looking to secure their league title. And then they will want to win the Europa League title. But as a common spectator we would definitely like to enjoy a competitive league.

Actually there are other things that they are also after because if they really want to win and the top 4 is difficult to achieve in the domestic league then indeed one of the other advantages of being a champion here is a direct ticket to the Champions League so they keep waiting for that and it was proven to Frankfurt in the season then.
Champions League, as its name implies, is a place for champions, so it's quite natural that a lot of people want to be there.

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Quote from: makishart on November 18, 2022, 10:26:24 AM

There will be no change once they will come from world cup. the only thing that will give a huge change is once some players from arsenal will be bought by another team. this will force arteta to make a new rotation and this will also change his strategy for arsenal. There will be lots of change to happen in the europa league next year. im sure that if we will see so many new names come to the various club that participated in the europa league. it's potentially to see the new name that will come to the barcelona as well. it's just the matter of time as so many club and arsenal have been making some preparation.

I do not think that Arsenal players could be bought right now, that’s not possible. First of all Arsenal is a rich club already, they are a leading Premier league team and that gives you a ton of money to begin with, secondly they will earn a whole ton more because winning or even being second would give them too much money as well.

So, they really do not need the money asap, it would be weird to sell players at this point of the season, if they really really want to sell then they could end up selling during summer and still make a lot of money, and players form the club that became champions in premier league would worth a lot more than a team that is "leading" the premier league at half of the season.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 18, 2022, 11:15:21 AM

Let's wait for unusual performances in the Europa League this season from those on the list of clubs participating in the Europa League. For some clubs they have to play a play off match first, and for some others they have been waiting for their next opponent in the knockout phase. Clubs that are now seeded are also seeded in domestic leagues such as Arsenal and Barcelona. I agree they will put their domestic league first and after that they will put the Europa League. No wonder because many see that the Europa League is not more prestigious than their respective leagues.

Still not excited yet with Europe League right now because waiting with play off match result and several team qualify to next round trough first standing position finished waiting their opponent after play off match result. Loss bigger team early between Manchester United or Barcelona after both team face on play off round, I think Manchester United vs Barcelona happening at semifinal or final stage but failure finish on first standing make United have been in play off round before qualifying to next round.

Arsenal have consistency performance on domestic league in this season and have favorite lead to final in Europe League, still don't know about who opponent team for Arsenal on next round and I won't if big match happen on early stage.

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This time it is different for Barcelona. The Europa League is going to be very important for them because of their financial condition. They have made many signings and there is even a situation for them like they might not be able to sign new players in January.
Considering this fact, they need to make as much money as possible this season. Maybe they didn't play much good in the Champions League. But I still think that they will fight for the Europa League title. Their priority is of course the La Liga title but I don't expect Xavi to focus on only that. Winning both championships would be awesome for them.

If the management of Barcelona were adequate, then they would not have made all these high-profile transfers in the summer. But they did, and little has changed. What can change if they somehow find the money for the winter transfer campaign? Even winning La Liga and the Europa League won't make them run a budget surplus, and they're heavily indebted.

I don't think Barcelona will add more players to the squad in the winter transfer window. Barcelona is now heavily in debt. Debt repayment is a big challenge for them. Now if they are not making enough money to add more players to the squad. Also, I would say that Barcelona's squad is much stronger now. They have no weakness in attack and midfield. However, the performance of their defenders is a bit weak. However, Barcelona has conceded only 5 goals in La Liga so far. But they conceded goals against renowned and big teams. And their performance in the Champions League was poor only because of poor defense. So Xavi will definitely want to strengthen their defense in the winter transfer.

Well, I agree with you, for me Barcelona is not in a position to negotiate any purchase of players, they do not have enough money and this is also something they also did, because when they bought all those players and a great anera because it was not much for spending, but if it is enough not to buy in these mometnes, or rather, after the World Cup is not the idea because they have no capacity and the team has not consolidated well, they do not understand much or really lack much, because the Level has not demonstrated it despite the fact that they go first in the league, but is aspirated as the union of Berlin in the Bundesliga.

Barcelona's current squad is very strong. Still they are not playing well. This is their failure. Barcelona is a renowned team. But their performance in the last two seasons has been very poor. And yet they have not achieved stability. They probably need more time to stabilize. They are not playing badly this season. However, their performance suggests that they have a lot of problems within the team. Barcelona will be stronger and Xavi will be successful only if Xavi can solve the internal problems. Barcelona's current squad is capable of beating any team. Now Xavi has to find his best match strategy. Xavi needs to find a match strategy that the players are comfortable with and can easily adapt to.

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Quote from: D-law on November 18, 2022, 11:32:24 AM

It'll be like last season when they lost and got kicked out by German side
Maybe same will be repeated as Xavi don't have plans to defend the Europa League in anyway
Barcelona should focus on winning La Liga rather than playing too many game's for Europa League

Barcelona's main target is absolutely the La Liga title. There is no doubt about it. Because the last time they won the La Liga title was in the 2018/19 season. Since then, Real Madrid (2 times) and Atletico Madrid became the champion team. However the Europa League is important for them this time also. Maybe even if they win both titles their debt won't be gone completely. But it would still be a nice help for them to make their finance better than before.

On paper they are one of the closest teams to win the Europa League title now. The biggest hindrances are Arsenal and Manchester United. Manchester United are even their opponent in this round and they have a nice opportunity to eliminate one of their biggest rivals already now.

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It'll be like last season when they lost and got kicked out by German side
Maybe same will be repeated as Xavi don't have plans to defend the Europa League in anyway
Barcelona should focus on winning La Liga rather than playing too many game's for Europa League

I think otherwise, because in the Europa League they have a very good chance to win the title this season. They must not miss the opportunity that comes to them, because they have been fasting for the title. Xavi Hernandez must be able to take advantage of their opportunities here, La Liga must be the first choice, but they should provide a good portion of this Europa League competition. However now they were approached by a sizable opportunity.

Barcelona are now fully working towards becoming La Liga champions. Xavi is working more on the team's weaknesses. Because if Real Madrid is the opponent, you have to work very hard to win the match.

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Quote from: D-law on November 18, 2022, 11:32:24 AM

It'll be like last season when they lost and got kicked out by German side
Maybe same will be repeated as Xavi don't have plans to defend the Europa League in anyway
Barcelona should focus on winning La Liga rather than playing too many game's for Europa League

I think otherwise, because in the Europa League they have a very good chance to win the title this season. They must not miss the opportunity that comes to them, because they have been fasting for the title. Xavi Hernandez must be able to take advantage of their opportunities here, La Liga must be the first choice, but they should provide a good portion of this Europa League competition. However now they were approached by a sizable opportunity.

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The main goal of the big clubs is their league title and the Champions League. But this season is a little different. Many big clubs are now performing in Europe leagues. But still the main sign of every team is its own league title. Barcelona and Arsenal will be looking to secure their league title. And then they will want to win the Europa League title. But as a common spectator we would definitely like to enjoy a competitive league.

Their goal in entering the competition is to win titles, of all competitions only the most prestigious Champions League title. The big teams that did not qualify for the Champions League (finish in the Europa League Zone in the domestic league) or failed to qualify in the group stage will try their luck in the Europa League. The own league title or the competition where the club comes from has always been the main target, but they will also fight for a prestigious title on the European stage.

Barcelona and Arsenal are both top of the table in their own leagues, they are also still active in the Europa League. To be the best they have to be able to give the best performance, so far Arsenal and Barcelona have been able to maintain their performance as expected.
This season's Europa League is more than competitive, this season UEL has more big clubs than the previous season. Arsenal, Barcelona and several other big clubs are in the forefront of winning the UEL trophy, but surprises will always happen in a competition like Frankfurt did when they beat Barcelona in last season's final.

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The main goal of the big clubs is their league title and the Champions League. But this season is a little different. Many big clubs are now performing in Europe leagues. But still the main sign of every team is its own league title. Barcelona and Arsenal will be looking to secure their league title. And then they will want to win the Europa League title. But as a common spectator we would definitely like to enjoy a competitive league.

I don't think so, those team consider winning the europa league as a way to go to the champion league. this league gives only a trophy and qualification for the next champion league. I don't even think barcelona would be winning the current season. it must be arsenal that potentially winning the title. barcelona is not strong enough to do that. Europa league teams were also strong. barcelona failed last year and it will be failed again this year. The league become more competitive with some major club came yet champion league is still paying main attention from all of football fans
people are always picking barcelona to win the tittle but last season it can do nothing against frankfurt. Barcelona is not tough team to be beaten. Playing offensive and counter attack is a key to win against barcelona

Barcelona performance in the Europa League won't be of much difference just like the champions league, I don't think barcelona can win the Europa League . Talking about team that can win the Europa League this season Manchester United have more chances than barcelona, despite Manchester are not very consistent this season, they are still better off than barcelona. If Barcelona are not careful and not trying to work on their performance they may end up not winning laliga.

It'll be like last season when they lost and got kicked out by German side
Maybe same will be repeated as Xavi don't have plans to defend the Europa League in anyway
Barcelona should focus on winning La Liga rather than playing too many game's for Europa League

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The main goal of the big clubs is their league title and the Champions League. But this season is a little different. Many big clubs are now performing in Europe leagues. But still the main sign of every team is its own league title. Barcelona and Arsenal will be looking to secure their league title. And then they will want to win the Europa League title. But as a common spectator we would definitely like to enjoy a competitive league.

It is certain that this season's European League will run very competitively because there are many big teams in the Europa League this season after several of them failed to perform better in the Champions League. And for Arsenal and Barcelona I see that both of them still have to fight harder to get their own league title, as well as the Europa League title which will look fierce after the Qatar world cup.

Let's wait for unusual performances in the Europa League this season from those on the list of clubs participating in the Europa League. For some clubs they have to play a play off match first, and for some others they have been waiting for their next opponent in the knockout phase. Clubs that are now seeded are also seeded in domestic leagues such as Arsenal and Barcelona. I agree they will put their domestic league first and after that they will put the Europa League. No wonder because many see that the Europa League is not more prestigious than their respective leagues.

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The main goal of the big clubs is their league title and the Champions League. But this season is a little different. Many big clubs are now performing in Europe leagues. But still the main sign of every team is its own league title. Barcelona and Arsenal will be looking to secure their league title. And then they will want to win the Europa League title. But as a common spectator we would definitely like to enjoy a competitive league.

I don't think so, those team consider winning the europa league as a way to go to the champion league. this league gives only a trophy and qualification for the next champion league. I don't even think barcelona would be winning the current season. it must be arsenal that potentially winning the title. barcelona is not strong enough to do that. Europa league teams were also strong. barcelona failed last year and it will be failed again this year. The league become more competitive with some major club came yet champion league is still paying main attention from all of football fans
people are always picking barcelona to win the tittle but last season it can do nothing against frankfurt. Barcelona is not tough team to be beaten. Playing offensive and counter attack is a key to win against barcelona

Barcelona performance in the Europa League won't be of much difference just like the champions league, I don't think barcelona can win the Europa League . Talking about team that can win the Europa League this season Manchester United have more chances than barcelona, despite Manchester are not very consistent this season, they are still better off than barcelona. If Barcelona are not careful and not trying to work on their performance they may end up not winning laliga.

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The main goal of the big clubs is their league title and the Champions League. But this season is a little different. Many big clubs are now performing in Europe leagues. But still the main sign of every team is its own league title. Barcelona and Arsenal will be looking to secure their league title. And then they will want to win the Europa League title. But as a common spectator we would definitely like to enjoy a competitive league.

It is certain that this season's European League will run very competitively because there are many big teams in the Europa League this season after several of them failed to perform better in the Champions League. And for Arsenal and Barcelona I see that both of them still have to fight harder to get their own league title, as well as the Europa League title which will look fierce after the Qatar world cup.

Looking at Barcelona's good situation, Arsenal are not in too bad of a situation, both teams are in good form. Many of the players from both the teams will be playing in the World Cup which may change the performance later on.

There will be no change once they will come from world cup. the only thing that will give a huge change is once some players from arsenal will be bought by another team. this will force arteta to make a new rotation and this will also change his strategy for arsenal. There will be lots of change to happen in the europa league next year. im sure that if we will see so many new names come to the various club that participated in the europa league. it's potentially to see the new name that will come to the barcelona as well. it's just the matter of time as so many club and arsenal have been making some preparation.

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Well I don't see it that way, if Ten Hag sees that he can use CR7 to win games, I think it's a very good thing, also what is his other strategy? they have very good players, the only thing is that Ten Hag does not develop all the potential of his players on the field, he has to resort to CR7 to be his only key to success, and I think that by the summer he will not have CR7 because CR7 cannot be sitting like this on the bench, putting on players who do not have his vweterania, honestly I do not think that Ten Hag has thought clearly at that time, he is a coach who has a lot to learn, it would really do him good if he guerre of Manchester.
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Ten Hag played too much in personal showdowns, but Ronaldol is not a boy to endure in silence. Now Ronaldo is leaving United in the winter window (I'm 99.99% sure of that) and I'll see what excuses and "person to blame all the trouble" he comes up with if United continue to show an average game. In general, after Ronaldo's interview, it is clear that there are systemic problems in United and their results are natural. The club has lagged behind advanced competitors, but the owners are not very worried about this.

If Ronaldo doesn't leave Manchester United, the rest of his playing career will have a huge impact. Because he is not given enough opportunities. Maybe Manchester United's coach doesn't think he's a very important player in the team.

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Quote from: hahay on November 18, 2022, 09:31:55 AM

Yes indeed, their salary is indeed very large and we or maybe it's just me who are just ordinary people, think that is a very high salary for an athlete. Because in reality, every individual also has his own lifestyle and problems, which of course more or less these factors will affect their consistency as well.
Well, an example is like an expensive player like Hazard but in the end he's just more on the bench.

Factors like these make me, as an ordinary person, judge that their salaries are no longer reasonable. Also, as time goes by, of course there will be moments where a player breaks the record for the most expensive salary.
But yes, if they can be consistent it's not a problem, but if they can't contribute big to the team then of course it's a big loss.
But about Arsenal and Barcelona on paper they still have a chance to go further but yes, it's not easy and that's if I only consider their big names.

Quote from: giammangiato on November 18, 2022, 10:12:15 AM

well if the teams have the money I don't see the problem of paying high salaries
sure that if the teams are in economic trouble, then everything changes
they should only spend the money they have

it's a matter of principle
the teams have a lot of money (maybe) but they spend twice as much and therefore incur debts that require more expensive tickets and more TV rights
cost that is passed on to the fans

Now I don't know how much a subscription costs, but it certainly costs a lot
it becomes a game that can no longer stand

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well if the teams have the money I don't see the problem of paying high salaries
sure that if the teams are in economic trouble, then everything changes
they should only spend the money they have

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