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For example Arsenal, they will also be very busy maintaining their position in the Premier League. Manchester United are busy trying to get into the top 4. Juventus are busy trying to stay in the top 4 and all the teams competing in the Europa League have other competitions that are just as busy. So it's not only about Barcelona.

you are right The teams competing for the title in the Europa League this season are all looking to do well in their respective leagues. Barcelona and Arsenal are aiming for the league title. On the other hand, Juventus and Manchester United continue to fight for Champions League qualification. So the Europa League is probably the second priority for all the teams. And so it cannot be said for sure how the teams will perform in the Europa League.

Some of them were big clubs that have bad performance during last season and the rest were clubs coming from champion league caused by they would not able to pass into the last 16. Im still feeling doubt about the performance from those big team.
They were at the europa league caused by they were not able competing with the team that were currently battling in the champion league. I see this competition is only a training for the one who will be qualified for champion league for next season.

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For example Arsenal, they will also be very busy maintaining their position in the Premier League. Manchester United are busy trying to get into the top 4. Juventus are busy trying to stay in the top 4 and all the teams competing in the Europa League have other competitions that are just as busy. So it's not only about Barcelona.

you are right The teams competing for the title in the Europa League this season are all looking to do well in their respective leagues. Barcelona and Arsenal are aiming for the league title. On the other hand, Juventus and Manchester United continue to fight for Champions League qualification. So the Europa League is probably the second priority for all the teams. And so it cannot be said for sure how the teams will perform in the Europa League.

Now it is assumed that the Europa League is not too prioritized for big clubs, it seems that this season is a little different because of the pressure that is on the Europa League by looking at the clubs that are currently contestants, it is clear that it will definitely be exciting and of course it will bring in quite a lot of money.
Especially for Arteta, Xavi or Ten Hag this can be proof because the club they are currently training needs proof with trophies, especially for Barcelona and Arsenal who have spent quite a lot of money in player transfers.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on November 16, 2022, 01:54:41 PM

For example Arsenal, they will also be very busy maintaining their position in the Premier League. Manchester United are busy trying to get into the top 4. Juventus are busy trying to stay in the top 4 and all the teams competing in the Europa League have other competitions that are just as busy. So it's not only about Barcelona.

you are right The teams competing for the title in the Europa League this season are all looking to do well in their respective leagues. Barcelona and Arsenal are aiming for the league title. On the other hand, Juventus and Manchester United continue to fight for Champions League qualification. So the Europa League is probably the second priority for all the teams. And so it cannot be said for sure how the teams will perform in the Europa League.

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Quote from: hahay on November 16, 2022, 03:25:58 AM

Even though Barcelona is playing in the Europa League it is not a guarantee that Barcelona will be easy and also, last season even Barcelona were eliminated quickly by Eintracht Frankfurt. So, playing in the Europa League is still not easy for Barcelona to win the title, but if Barcelona can win the title it is basically still better for them than nothing.
Because to win a title in the highest tournament like the Champions League is indeed difficult and not easy for every team to win it, so Barcelona should be able to understand this more and keep targeting to win another title this season.

I personally am not too confident that Xavi will still be appointed as Barcelona coach next season, if this season Barcelona doesn't win any titles then maybe Xavi will be fired.
Because Barcelona has made great efforts to bring in many luxury players with a difficult financial situation, but they are still difficult to win titles so the only way is to get a more appropriate coach.

I think it would be different this year, last year it was the first days of Xavi, he managed the team for a month or two before they had to play Frankfurt who eventually won the whole thing, which means it was difficult for them.

This year, it is still not guaranteed that they would win it, maybe United would eliminate them as well who knows, but this year Xavi has been managing the team for a total of nearly one year when they have to play United, that would mean that he would have the chance to establish his tiki taka back again, and that could result with a better result this time, because the strategy will be set. This isn't guaranteed of course, they might end up losing again, nobody knows.

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Quote from: fzkto on November 16, 2022, 01:38:54 PM

Yes, the Europa League now has teams no worse off than the Champions League. A lot of people think that Barcelona will definitely play in the final, but I think they can't handle the busy schedule of La Liga at home, where they also have to fight for first place and the Europa League. Barcelona are in good shape, but I don't think they are ready to work hard yet.

Never say that to Barcelona fans because it is very possible for them to take your assumptions about the busy schedule at Laliga as bulshit. I think all the teams will be same busy in the league including the teams playing in the Champions League. If they don't lose focus on any of the competitions then I don't think they will miss their chance. So never underestimate anyone and how they struggle to overcome problems to be the best.

For example Arsenal, they will also be very busy maintaining their position in the Premier League. Manchester United are busy trying to get into the top 4. Juventus are busy trying to stay in the top 4 and all the teams competing in the Europa League have other competitions that are just as busy. So it's not only about Barcelona.

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The many big teams that fell from the champions league actually made competition in the european league now quite fierce, how could it not be, this season for the second time we will see barcelona return to play in the european league, as well as juventus which is one of the big clubs specialist champions league will compete in the second caste of the European league this season, the existence of these big teams has certainly made the European league this season no less fierce than the champions league because it is possible for us to see bigmatch matches later.

Yes, you are right. But teams like Barcelona, Ajax, Roma, Juventus and Manchester United and several other good teams still have to fight to get past the playoff phase so it is not certain that they will be able to reach the last 16. It's possible Barcelona, Juventus, Roma and Ajax qualify at this stage for the last 16 and if that's the case then the competition in the last 16 of the Europa League this season is really tough.

But now all the teams may not have the focus on this match because the World Cup is very close. I will be looking forward to some big matches in the Europa League this season because I think the competition for the title will definitely be very good compared to last season.

Yes, the Europa League now has teams no worse off than the Champions League. A lot of people think that Barcelona will definitely play in the final, but I think they can't handle the busy schedule of La Liga at home, where they also have to fight for first place and the Europa League. Barcelona are in good shape, but I don't think they are ready to work hard yet.

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Quote from: DU18 on November 16, 2022, 01:09:33 PM

The many big teams that fell from the champions league actually made competition in the european league now quite fierce, how could it not be, this season for the second time we will see barcelona return to play in the european league, as well as juventus which is one of the big clubs specialist champions league will compete in the second caste of the European league this season, the existence of these big teams has certainly made the European league this season no less fierce than the champions league because it is possible for us to see bigmatch matches later.

Yes, you are right. But teams like Barcelona, Ajax, Roma, Juventus and Manchester United and several other good teams still have to fight to get past the playoff phase so it is not certain that they will be able to reach the last 16. It's possible Barcelona, Juventus, Roma and Ajax qualify at this stage for the last 16 and if that's the case then the competition in the last 16 of the Europa League this season is really tough.

But now all the teams may not have the focus on this match because the World Cup is very close. I will be looking forward to some big matches in the Europa League this season because I think the competition for the title will definitely be very good compared to last season.

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 16, 2022, 12:58:53 PM

Yes you are right
thanks to the defections of the other tournament strong teams have come here, such as Juventus and Barcelona who raise the quality of the matches
and as a result the games become fun
without considering that they are followed by many fans (like me) who can no longer watch the Champions League (for this season)

The many big teams that fell from the champions league actually made competition in the european league now quite fierce, how could it not be, this season for the second time we will see barcelona return to play in the european league, as well as juventus which is one of the big clubs specialist champions league will compete in the second caste of the European league this season, the existence of these big teams has certainly made the European league this season no less fierce than the champions league because it is possible for us to see bigmatch matches later.

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The level of the Europa League has increased a lot after the teams from the Champions League have come here. It has got close to the Champions League I mean. There are really powerful teams in this round already. The number of favourites for the Europa League title has also increased quite much.

For now just as they are my favourite, Arsenal are the biggest title contender according to bookmakers. Barcelona and Manchester United follow respectively. I'd like to see Barcelona eliminating the Red Devils. And a finale like Arsenal - Barcelona would be amazing.

Eliminated teams in the Champions League carried the quality of the European league to different levels. Teams like Juventus and Barcelona came. There are also favorite teams for the trophy like Manchester United and Arsenal. This year, the Europa League is like the champions league. It has become a tournament that attracts everyone's attention.

Yes you are right
thanks to the defections of the other tournament strong teams have come here, such as Juventus and Barcelona who raise the quality of the matches
and as a result the games become fun
without considering that they are followed by many fans (like me) who can no longer watch the Champions League (for this season)

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 16, 2022, 09:04:05 AM

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Europa league still means nothing for the fans. it has been two times for barcelona to be kicked out from the champion league. As a team with so many expensive players this time playing in europa league must not even worthy. Im sure laporta will prefer barcelona to play in the quarter final of champion league rather than europa league. There are so many things why even laporta itself didn't like to see barcelona to play in the europa league as there are various reasons like the income from playing in europa league was pretty small compared when you are playing at champion league

This is true only if we are talking about top clubs. For everyone else, any title is important. Even the Conference League - remember how Roma fans and Mourinho himself were happy to win last season? That is why, year after year, we see that the "big" clubs mostly lose to the smaller ones, as these small clubs have the maximum motivation, and the top clubs are more likely to think about the national championship and the Champions League next year.

You're making a clear comparison that's clearly a different level between the Champions League and the Europa League. Any club if they could choose would choose to play in the quarters of the Champions League instead of having to play here. The Europa League is the second tier of club competition in Europe, and it is the same as the second tier of the domestic league. No wonder the Europa League is not as attractive as the Champions League which is a very prestigious level.
But it's true that it depends on the situation of the club itself. If you are a top club then you will not be too happy to be here, but if you are an ordinary club then playing in the Europa League is an achievement especially if you are able to become champions here.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on November 15, 2022, 12:29:54 PM

I think Xavi's main goal is not to win the title. His main goal is to stabilize the Barcelona team. and continue. Because under Koeman's leadership, Barcelona were in complete disarray. There was no consistency in their performance. There was no specific match strategy. Xavi has been trying to stabilize the team since taking over. And if Xavi can make the team stable and consistent then winning the title won't be difficult for Barcelona. Strong in the Barcelona squad. All the players in the team are very talented. So I think that the consistency of performance will really win them the title.

I think Xavi Hernandez wants to achieve more than that for Barcelona this season, I honestly feel it has to do more than that he's had winnings and positive results so far this season even if some of his important players especially in defense have been absent when needed. Xavi Hernandez has stabilized the squad last season to an extent, but he got a bit unlucky with this injured players.

But then, nothing feels good like being on top of the league standing as Barcelona maintains the top spot after all of those setbacks, they have still been positive. Xavi Hernandez should do all he can to win a trophy at least to boost the board and squad this season, nothing would please me more than seeing Barcelona emerge as the Champions of La Liga at the end. They deserve it, don't they ?

Although, I'd hope the board open room for some quality names to slide innit the club at the re-start of the Transfer window.

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Quote from: X-ray on November 16, 2022, 02:53:39 AM

Europa league still means nothing for the fans. it has been two times for barcelona to be kicked out from the champion league. As a team with so many expensive players this time playing in europa league must not even worthy. Im sure laporta will prefer barcelona to play in the quarter final of champion league rather than europa league. There are so many things why even laporta itself didn't like to see barcelona to play in the europa league as there are various reasons like the income from playing in europa league was pretty small compared when you are playing at champion league

This is true only if we are talking about top clubs. For everyone else, any title is important. Even the Conference League - remember how Roma fans and Mourinho himself were happy to win last season? That is why, year after year, we see that the "big" clubs mostly lose to the smaller ones, as these small clubs have the maximum motivation, and the top clubs are more likely to think about the national championship and the Champions League next year.

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Quote from: X-ray on November 16, 2022, 02:53:39 AM

Europa league still means nothing for the fans. it has been two times for barcelona to be kicked out from the champion league. As a team with so many expensive players this time playing in europa league must not even worthy. Im sure laporta will prefer barcelona to play in the quarter final of champion league rather than europa league. There are so many things why even laporta itself didn't like to see barcelona to play in the europa league as there are various reasons like the income from playing in europa league was pretty small compared when you are playing at champion league

Europe League is not excited level depend with Barcelona as bigger team and last window transfer spent much money for signing many star player label, I don't think fans excited to watch with Europe League games because last season when Barcelona playing home on second leg against with Frankfurt all their fans sell ticket to Frankfurt fans. Beside have loss opportunity as business when participating at Champion League can earn much money compensation but different when Barcelona have to play at Europe League.

Actually if loss all opportunity at La Liga its seems Barcelona will serious at Europe League get trophy, what ever kinds is it make their fans little happy with Barcelona achievement after last year without any trophy yet.

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Perhaps it is good for Barcelona that they are now active in the Europa League. If they had survived the group stage, there was a pretty good chance that they would be eliminated in the next round (1/8th final). In the Europa League they have a much better chance of getting through, and I think for Barcelona at the moment the sporting achievements are important. They could use another success and European title. Xavi's performance is not that bad so far and the level of football on the pitch is improved.

Europa league still means nothing for the fans. it has been two times for barcelona to be kicked out from the champion league. As a team with so many expensive players this time playing in europa league must not even worthy. Im sure laporta will prefer barcelona to play in the quarter final of champion league rather than europa league. There are so many things why even laporta itself didn't like to see barcelona to play in the europa league as there are various reasons like the income from playing in europa league was pretty small compared when you are playing at champion league

However, the fact is that here is Barcelona now. like it or not, they have to make amends for their failure in the champions league, and target to win the European title as a replacement. this is Barcelona's only hope apart from targeting the La Liga title.

I believe, with the failure of Barcelona in the Champions League group phase. Xavi realized that Barcelona still needed time to return to glory in other competitions outside of La Liga. at least, Barcelona still has a lot of work to bring his team even stronger. losing to Bayern Munich, and the difficulty of conquering Inter is an indication that Barcelona really cannot be said to be very strong.

In the playoffs later, Barcelona will face a tough opponent, namely Manchester United. even though Man United is still below Barcelona's level, that doesn't mean Erik Ten Hag's troops can be overthrown easily. this is a test for the two teams that will meet to win a ticket to the next round.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on November 15, 2022, 03:58:37 PM

There are some teams in the Cl that have exceptional value, but many teams in the Cl that are left are certainly no better than a number of teams in the EL. You can't make the comparison either, they don't play in other tournaments for nothing now. Barcelona, Arsenal, Manchester United could also still be active in the Cl. Arsenal is the team in shape now, we don't know what to expect from United, but the hassle around the Ronaldo Soap will soon be a thing of the past. No EL and no CL for him this year as he has already made minutes in the EL. Or can he still play in the Cl, possibly with another team?

Those teams were playing in europa league caused by they have bad performance. I think that those who have been europa league caused by the teams can't go to qualify for champion league. I think that the value determined by the end of season it's from the how big the team is.
That's why you were seeing so many what people called that as big clubs played in the europa league caused by such reason. it can't be denied if they have bad performance during last season.

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Quote from: Docnaster on November 16, 2022, 03:32:07 AM

The problem is not that Barcelona crashed out of the Champions League because last season that is exactly how they crashed out of the Champions League. The main problem is that the Europa League which will say that is smaller League compared to Champions League will Barcelona be able to win it?

This season in the Europa League there are many big and strong teams where they will all fight to win games and get trophies. Obviously this season will not be so easy for Barcelona to win games and get trophies because last season when Barcelona were knocked out of the Champions League, Barcelona didn't win a trophy in the Europa League either.

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They are still going to crash out of the Europa League and if this happens twice they crash out of Champions League and also cash out of the Europa League, there is nothing better to be said about Xavi about his performance in Barcelona because the record will be there to speak for or against him

Barcelona is still overshadowed by a big and strong team this season in the Europa League and also in La Liga, because Barcelona's position can still be shifted by Real Madrid in La Liga and also Barcelona must be very careful with Manchester United in the Liga Europe because Manchester United also has more motivation when dealing with big teams from other leagues like Barcelona.

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There are quite a few teams in the Europa League this season that is quite strong. Winning against Arsenal and United will not be easy for Barcelona. The Arsenal team has managed to dominate both the Premier League and the Europa League. On the other hand, Manchester United is not playing well in the Premier League. They will try their best to win the Europa League title. On the other hand, Barcelona's first priority now is to dominate La Liga and win the La Liga title. The Europa League title is now Barcelona's second priority.

Barcelona remains focused on La Liga and the Europa League, Xavi will not waste the opportunity to get his first trophy on the European stage. Failure in the Champions League requires Xavi to give a little medicine to Barcelona fans who are already disappointed with Xavi performance in the UCL, the Europa League trophy will increase the confidence and support of fans in Xavi as Barcelona coach.
Xavi must be able to get past obstacles from Manchester United in the play-offs. Xavi struggle with Barcelona doesn't end there, there are still many other strong teams that must be defeated to become the Champions of the Europa League.

I somewhat agree with you. Xavi has yet to win a title as a coach. So he will definitely want to win the title. But Barcelona's performance is still not completely regular. They are not yet able to fully stabilize themselves. And so if they want to focus on both La Liga and Europa League at the moment, their performance is likely to deteriorate. But we still don't know if Xavi will take this risk, and try to win two titles. But it has potential. As Barcelona have a lot of talented players in their squad.

Xavi has shaped the Barcelona team brilliantly. Barcelona's attacking side is performing very well. But the defense has many problems. No team can perform well depending on the coach all the time, it needs qualified and talented players. So I can say that Barcelona need good midfielders and defense now. As a result, Barcelona will complete a great team.

I have several times found news reviews regarding Xavi's position as coach of Barcelona, that the news said that the owner of Barcelona did not plan to fire Xavi as coach of Barcelona, because it is true what you said that Xavi formed Barcelona's players brilliantly, that's what made the owner of Barcelona reluctant to sack Xavi, even though Barcelona were knocked out in the Champions League grub preliminary round, at least Xavi and Barcelona are still leading at the top of the Spanish League standings, but when it comes to the failure for Barcelona to maintain the standings in the Spanish League, then it is not quite possible, That Xavi's position as a coach will it's not safe to continue dealing with Barcelona in the coming season, there will definitely be news of dismissals..

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Perhaps it is good for Barcelona that they are now active in the Europa League. If they had survived the group stage, there was a pretty good chance that they would be eliminated in the next round (1/8th final). In the Europa League they have a much better chance of getting through, and I think for Barcelona at the moment the sporting achievements are important. They could use another success and European title. Xavi's performance is not that bad so far and the level of football on the pitch is improved.

Europa league still means nothing for the fans. it has been two times for barcelona to be kicked out from the champion league. As a team with so many expensive players this time playing in europa league must not even worthy. Im sure laporta will prefer barcelona to play in the quarter final of champion league rather than europa league. There are so many things why even laporta itself didn't like to see barcelona to play in the europa league as there are various reasons like the income from playing in europa league was pretty small compared when you are playing at champion league

The problem is not that Barcelona crashed out of the Champions League because last season that is exactly how they crashed out of the Champions League. The main problem is that the Europa League which will say that is smaller League compared to Champions League will Barcelona be able to win it?

They are still going to crash out of the Europa League and if this happens twice they crash out of Champions League and also cash out of the Europa League, there is nothing better to be said about Xavi about his performance in Barcelona because the record will be there to speak for or against him

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Quote from: X-ray on November 16, 2022, 02:53:39 AM

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Perhaps it is good for Barcelona that they are now active in the Europa League. If they had survived the group stage, there was a pretty good chance that they would be eliminated in the next round (1/8th final). In the Europa League they have a much better chance of getting through, and I think for Barcelona at the moment the sporting achievements are important. They could use another success and European title. Xavi's performance is not that bad so far and the level of football on the pitch is improved.

Europa league still means nothing for the fans. it has been two times for barcelona to be kicked out from the champion league. As a team with so many expensive players this time playing in europa league must not even worthy. Im sure laporta will prefer barcelona to play in the quarter final of champion league rather than europa league. There are so many things why even laporta itself didn't like to see barcelona to play in the europa league as there are various reasons like the income from playing in europa league was pretty small compared when you are playing at champion league

Even though Barcelona is playing in the Europa League it is not a guarantee that Barcelona will be easy and also, last season even Barcelona were eliminated quickly by Eintracht Frankfurt. So, playing in the Europa League is still not easy for Barcelona to win the title, but if Barcelona can win the title it is basically still better for them than nothing.
Because to win a title in the highest tournament like the Champions League is indeed difficult and not easy for every team to win it, so Barcelona should be able to understand this more and keep targeting to win another title this season.

I personally am not too confident that Xavi will still be appointed as Barcelona coach next season, if this season Barcelona doesn't win any titles then maybe Xavi will be fired.
Because Barcelona has made great efforts to bring in many luxury players with a difficult financial situation, but they are still difficult to win titles so the only way is to get a more appropriate coach.

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Quote from: safari88 on November 15, 2022, 02:04:28 PM

Perhaps it is good for Barcelona that they are now active in the Europa League. If they had survived the group stage, there was a pretty good chance that they would be eliminated in the next round (1/8th final). In the Europa League they have a much better chance of getting through, and I think for Barcelona at the moment the sporting achievements are important. They could use another success and European title. Xavi's performance is not that bad so far and the level of football on the pitch is improved.

Europa league still means nothing for the fans. it has been two times for barcelona to be kicked out from the champion league. As a team with so many expensive players this time playing in europa league must not even worthy. Im sure laporta will prefer barcelona to play in the quarter final of champion league rather than europa league. There are so many things why even laporta itself didn't like to see barcelona to play in the europa league as there are various reasons like the income from playing in europa league was pretty small compared when you are playing at champion league

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