UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 373.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 12, 2022, 11:19:36 AM

Quote from: arimamib on November 12, 2022, 10:07:27 AM

The FIFA virus cannot be avoided when players defend their country, coaches will be very dizzy if their flagship players get injured after returning from the world cup. Strategy recovery cannot be carried out completely if something unexpected happens, injury is the main cause. The coach must find an ideal replacement to fill the space left by the main players, due to injuries suffered by the main players will greatly affect the team's performance.

Club have prepare with alternative option when their main player got injury after returning from national team or FIFA World Cup 2022 in Qatar, bad impact for team have dominance their player get national team called and actually have risk later when return to club with injury.
I doubt with Barcelona have 18 players participants in World Cup will back to the team with healthy or not het any injured yet.
After World Cup team faced busy match schedule on domestic league and if bad thing happen for their player actually coach changed strategy and have find with replacement player get injury.

It is just like a sword with two edges it is the turn of the clubs to use their players and sum countries are affected because their star players have been injured in their various clubs. After the world cup it will be the turn of the clubs to suffer because some of their favourite players who were fit for the world cup may return injured, that is football we know.

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Quote from: arimamib on November 12, 2022, 10:07:27 AM

The FIFA virus cannot be avoided when players defend their country, coaches will be very dizzy if their flagship players get injured after returning from the world cup. Strategy recovery cannot be carried out completely if something unexpected happens, injury is the main cause. The coach must find an ideal replacement to fill the space left by the main players, due to injuries suffered by the main players will greatly affect the team's performance.

Club have prepare with alternative option when their main player got injury after returning from national team or FIFA World Cup 2022 in Qatar, bad impact for team have dominance their player get national team called and actually have risk later when return to club with injury.
I doubt with Barcelona have 18 players participants in World Cup will back to the team with healthy or not het any injured yet.
After World Cup team faced busy match schedule on domestic league and if bad thing happen for their player actually coach changed strategy and have find with replacement player get injury.

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Quote from: visionE2 on November 11, 2022, 11:19:21 AM

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There are great problems in the Juventus team at the moment. Juventus team is failing to show a very good performance. Although the team has good talented players but they fail to show their skills. I hope Juventus will be able to perform well after the World Cup.

bad stars at UCL 22/23 juventus are indeed many young stars. juventus also has many injured players, so Juventus cannot improve their performance so that they drop down to the European league caste. But despite this, Allegri deserves to be sacked. I think that's a big problem for Juventus.

it must not be an excuses for juventus. it doesn't matter how many players got injured and the team must always did some preparation to prevent it. it's now having good performance in serie a again. The fact that if juventus would be competing to take the top 4 to be qualified for the next UCL yet it can at least go to the UCL instantly once juventus would be able to win europa league but this is not an easy task that can be done by any team.
Although juventus played at europa league and it doesn't mean if it can win against another big team like arsenal or barcelona. there are some underrated team like MU

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on November 11, 2022, 01:46:37 PM

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Indeed this will drain their energy because some players have to play to defend their country in the World Cup, but on the other hand this will be the strongest recovery overall, this is not talking about recovery in terms of physical condition but more about restoring strategy and monitoring the players whether they are more developed playing in the World Cup or not. After all, this league break will be something that is beneficial for teams who are in bad form, especially big teams.

The international break allows some players to focus on training alongside other players who are not in the squad going to the world cup. Meanwhile, players who are called upon to defend their country will be drained of energy as long as they survive in the most prestigious soccer tournament in the world. The coach of each team, especially the big teams that are still competing in the Europa League, will be worried about the condition of their players, injuries can happen which make the club they defend very lose.

The FIFA virus cannot be avoided when players defend their country, coaches will be very dizzy if their flagship players get injured after returning from the world cup. Strategy recovery cannot be carried out completely if something unexpected happens, injury is the main cause. The coach must find an ideal replacement to fill the space left by the main players, due to injuries suffered by the main players will greatly affect the team's performance.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on November 11, 2022, 05:34:41 PM

Last season in the Europa, Barcelona was one of the projected best teams to win the league. Like, there was a coming of Xavi in its management and the teams morale was highetened, we found them producing better results than the previous management and they seems to have found there results but sadly, they got eliminated.

I guess they are here again but this time, not with as half expectation as before and might just get eliminated too early with this Manchester United fixtures. Manchester United have been on the rise lately and would be taking there chances at the league this season. Hence, Barcelona vs Manchester United would be one hell of a game. Both teams have got so much to stick there heads out for in this encounter.

Currently, Barcelona is under development and their first task is winning La Liga which is likely to happen in this season after this they will try to achieve other targets as same happen in last season after exit from Champions League there was clearly chance that they will try to win UEFA Europa Cup, but they have done nothing and fall out so for me, we will have same story because they are looking for better results in domestic league, and they are currently not interested in this title now here they are going to face Manchester United which is more committed in this competition.

And they are improving their performance and quality as well which is helping them for having good results for me most chances Manchester United could be winner from this competition against Barcelona even not clear about their win for the title, but they can beat Barcelona.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 11, 2022, 04:09:45 PM

After the matchups have been determined there have been some changes in the odds for the Europa League title. Before the draw Arsenal and Barcelona had the exact same odds for making it. But now Arsenal are a little more favourite for being the champions. It must be directly related to Barcelona's having one of the toughest matchups of course.

They are still shown as a bigger favourite than Manchester United for the title now though. It is 8.50 for the Red Devils. Arsenal can be the most impressive team in the Europa League now. Because they are handling the English Premier League and Europa League both amazingly. Most probably they will be able to keep this balance. Because this season is really different for them. I didn't want to believe at first as we didn't see them this much strong for long years. But this consistency level is a big proof now.

Quite a logical change in quotes, since Arsenal are already one step ahead of Barcelona - they have already received a ticket in 1/8. And in general, it is quite logical that it is more difficult (and less likely) to go the hard way, so the chances of Barcelona are lower than Arsenal. But Barcelona quotes regarding United make me laugh. It's the same as it was in the Champions League group where Inter were listed much lower than Barcelona.

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on November 11, 2022, 01:46:37 PM

Most players don't rest at the moment, it's just the game that's different. Maybe all leagues stop at this point, because the focus is on the world cup. Automatically players who play in their respective clubs will play in their country. Automatically their physical condition will also be drained. It is likely that the level of player injuries will increase and make the club will be overwhelmed when European matches resume. So, don't think that this is the recovery phase. But this is a more extra phase to drain players' energy.

Indeed this will drain their energy because some players have to play to defend their country in the World Cup, but on the other hand this will be the strongest recovery overall, this is not talking about recovery in terms of physical condition but more about restoring strategy and monitoring the players whether they are more developed playing in the World Cup or not. After all, this league break will be something that is beneficial for teams who are in bad form, especially big teams.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 11, 2022, 05:11:02 PM

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The bookmakers are also excited about the Barcelona vs Manchester United tie, it would fetch streams and profits for all parties involved. With Barcelona struggling but still top of their league, i think they have the edge to get into the europa league last 16. What are your predictions

The competition is definitely fierce, although it's still a long way to go. But it belongs to a very interesting match to wait and the Manchester United side will definitely prepare themselves better when they see their opponent is Barcelona who are currently leaders in La Liga. I can't make more in-depth predictions for their match, but I would prefer Manchester United to win at home to Barcelona in the knockout round.

Actually in this case predicting from the start I would personally say this is still a rush. We don't even know what they will be like in February and we still have to wait whether this will go well or not for Manchester United and Barcelona because we know these two clubs still have problems and this could be very disturbing for the continuity of their club's consistency in February later.

Barcelona performs very good in la liga but MU has enough time to get its best performance against before the match will begin next year. I think that this gonna be a tough game for both. I hope that CR7 will be played full time against barcelona. That would be so good if he can destroy it like when he was in real madrid. I will be so happy to see that ronaldo will be played against barcelona. Barcelona is a team that has become his rival when he was in la liga.
This gonna be epic match between both barcelona and MU. the history for ronaldo is repeating again.

Indeed that game will be a tough one for both teams. Barcelona will not be willing to lose the game against Manchester or dropping out of the Europa league after the world cup. Finally Ronaldo gets a chance to play against Barcelona again after a long time since he left Real Madrid for Juventus. This will be like a reunion and I will love to see Ronaldo scoring against Barcelona again. It will be a delight to watch.

This game may favour Barcelona well than Manchester United because Barcelona performance is not bad and Barcelona has Lewandowsk that is always tasty to score goals i. I can't say Manchester United performance is very stable and Manchester United does not have a player who scores goal like Lewandowski. I know Manchester United has ronaldo but ronaldo have not score much since this season.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on November 11, 2022, 05:11:02 PM

Indeed that game will be a tough one for both teams. Barcelona will not be willing to lose the game against Manchester or dropping out of the Europa league after the world cup. Finally Ronaldo gets a chance to play against Barcelona again after a long time since he left Real Madrid for Juventus. This will be like a reunion and I will love to see Ronaldo scoring against Barcelona again. It will be a delight to watch.

Last season in the Europa, Barcelona was one of the projected best teams to win the league. Like, there was a coming of Xavi in its management and the teams morale was highetened, we found them producing better results than the previous management and they seems to have found there results but sadly, they got eliminated.

I guess they are here again but this time, not with as half expectation as before and might just get eliminated too early with this Manchester United fixtures. Manchester United have been on the rise lately and would be taking there chances at the league this season. Hence, Barcelona vs Manchester United would be one hell of a game. Both teams have got so much to stick there heads out for in this encounter.

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The bookmakers are also excited about the Barcelona vs Manchester United tie, it would fetch streams and profits for all parties involved. With Barcelona struggling but still top of their league, i think they have the edge to get into the europa league last 16. What are your predictions

The competition is definitely fierce, although it's still a long way to go. But it belongs to a very interesting match to wait and the Manchester United side will definitely prepare themselves better when they see their opponent is Barcelona who are currently leaders in La Liga. I can't make more in-depth predictions for their match, but I would prefer Manchester United to win at home to Barcelona in the knockout round.

Basically I believe Erik ten Hag can do better than Xavi so yes, considering the coach I'm pretty sure that Manchester United have a chance to win and qualify for the next round.
But if I consider the quality of the players I prefer Barcelona although indeed, if I consider further the overall strength of the team I will still choose Manchester United.

But at least the prediction for me is only right at this moment, because I believe there will be many changes that will occur after the January transfer window. Because at this time of the season break, there will be a World Cup, of course, every team will get great players who come or become famous in the World Cup later.

But indeed, even so the changes will not be as big as imagined especially for Barcelona. Because Barcelona basically financially they are not so good so yes, maybe a big change will happen at Manchester United which maybe Ronaldo leaves and Manchester United sign new players which maybe it will also have a good impact for Manchester United.

Both managers are facing almost similar situations at their clubs and both clubs are in struggling state now. I honestly think both managers are good and equal to the task but when you consider the quality of the players in both clubs Barcelona have better squad than United but when you evaluate their performances ymthis season it looks like United have been doing better than Barcelona. Their Meeting in the Europa league will be very interesting and we will see which team is better than the other in terms of performance on the field.

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Quote from: makishart on November 10, 2022, 09:28:56 AM

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Quote from: ampere on November 09, 2022, 05:47:37 AM

The bookmakers are also excited about the Barcelona vs Manchester United tie, it would fetch streams and profits for all parties involved. With Barcelona struggling but still top of their league, i think they have the edge to get into the europa league last 16. What are your predictions

The competition is definitely fierce, although it's still a long way to go. But it belongs to a very interesting match to wait and the Manchester United side will definitely prepare themselves better when they see their opponent is Barcelona who are currently leaders in La Liga. I can't make more in-depth predictions for their match, but I would prefer Manchester United to win at home to Barcelona in the knockout round.

Actually in this case predicting from the start I would personally say this is still a rush. We don't even know what they will be like in February and we still have to wait whether this will go well or not for Manchester United and Barcelona because we know these two clubs still have problems and this could be very disturbing for the continuity of their club's consistency in February later.

Barcelona performs very good in la liga but MU has enough time to get its best performance against before the match will begin next year. I think that this gonna be a tough game for both. I hope that CR7 will be played full time against barcelona. That would be so good if he can destroy it like when he was in real madrid. I will be so happy to see that ronaldo will be played against barcelona. Barcelona is a team that has become his rival when he was in la liga.
This gonna be epic match between both barcelona and MU. the history for ronaldo is repeating again.

Indeed that game will be a tough one for both teams. Barcelona will not be willing to lose the game against Manchester or dropping out of the Europa league after the world cup. Finally Ronaldo gets a chance to play against Barcelona again after a long time since he left Real Madrid for Juventus. This will be like a reunion and I will love to see Ronaldo scoring against Barcelona again. It will be a delight to watch.

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Quote from: DU18 on November 11, 2022, 11:33:09 AM

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bad stars at UCL 22/23 juventus are indeed many young stars. juventus also has many injured players, so Juventus cannot improve their performance so that they drop down to the European league caste. But despite this, Allegri deserves to be sacked. I think that's a big problem for Juventus.

Juventus performance decline was indeed caused by many of their injured players, the injury storm continued to hit the players alternately so that in the end Juventus had to go down the caste to the European League, I think at this time the management should evaluate the allegri coaching method because it seems something is wrong on the method used so cause many injured players, I think what management needs to do is to evaluate what happened to the squad and if possible it is time for Juventus to find another coach who is better than Allegri.

The world cup pause gives Juventus an advantage to improve their performance, even injured players can be expected to be able to play again soon after the world cup is over. Juventus have slowly improved their performance in the last few matches, some positive results obtained in Serie A have led them to reach fourth place in the standings list.

Allegri can make improvements during the break, he has to immediately bring Juventus to their best form, some Juventus players have performed well from the previous matches. Now that Juventus need cohesiveness and consistent overall player performance to perform well in the Europa League, Allegri must not waste this opportunity after being knocked out of the Champions League.

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Maybe the 2 best 2 teams have been drawn against each other in this intermediate round. This could have been the Champions League final if you didn't know that both teams are no longer active in the Champions League. A very annoying draw for both teams, but for the real football fan it is a great poster to see this. Sevilla must get back on track in Europe, because in the competition things go from bad to worse every week. RB Salzburg AS Roma can be a game with many goals I think. Arsenal will be deligthed with the current pairings.

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After the matchups have been determined there have been some changes in the odds for the Europa League title. Before the draw Arsenal and Barcelona had the exact same odds for making it. But now Arsenal are a little more favourite for being the champions. It must be directly related to Barcelona's having one of the toughest matchups of course.

They are still shown as a bigger favourite than Manchester United for the title now though. It is 8.50 for the Red Devils. Arsenal can be the most impressive team in the Europa League now. Because they are handling the English Premier League and Europa League both amazingly. Most probably they will be able to keep this balance. Because this season is really different for them. I didn't want to believe at first as we didn't see them this much strong for long years. But this consistency level is a big proof now.

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 11, 2022, 11:14:09 AM

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There's still a long way to go and I think things like injured players are now completely resolved for Juventus although we don't know what will happen after this break but for sure looking at the condition of the Juventus players I think they will still be in good shape because they have overcome their players' injury problems and of course they have a great chance of winning.

Well many have recovered it's true
but now they all have to learn to play together, it's not easy to start so fast.
others have had a lot of time to play together and learn the tactics and all the various operations

you must also consider this, it is not enough to recover players from injuries, it would be easy and simple and it is not
I expect little this season from my beloved Juventus, patience happens

This game will be in February and that means there are a few months to get them together in training and it's not a short time and of course this is what we will have to see.
Apart from some current players who have undergone surgery like Chiesa who has not played for a long time or maybe Pogba will not be an obstacle I think because before they play for the Europa League of course Serie A can also adapt injured players to know the scheme that Allegri wanted.-

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Comparison with domestic league achievement seems Barcelona most promising qualify to next round than Manchester United, but have bad result when opponent with big team become weakness for Barcelona in this season and opportunity with Manchester United how effective chance can beat Barcelona at play off round. Difficult predicting the winner between Barcelona or Manchester United, however with United not promising performance at domestic league. But Cristiano Ronaldo have good record against with Barcelona and know what the weakness from Xavi games play.

Quote from: ShowOff on November 11, 2022, 01:39:50 PM

I hope that will be the most minority opinion about Barcelona vs Manchester United. While anything that makes Barcelona fail miserably in the Champions League will never be the same when they play for the Europa League. I think the majority will think Barcelona is better including me.

Looks have the same way with Barcelona between Champion League and Europe League after facing bigger team, have bad record at Champion League facing with Inter and Bayern I think Barcelona still can't beat Manchester United at play off round.

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 11, 2022, 01:39:50 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on November 11, 2022, 01:26:52 PM

I do not see Barcelona as favourites to be fair, because United did looked bad for a while and yet they are much better right now compared to Barcelona who built a great roster but lost so badly in UCL, so they do not look that great.

I hope that will be the most minority opinion about Barcelona vs Manchester United. While anything that makes Barcelona fail miserably in the Champions League will never be the same when they play for the Europa League. I think the majority will think Barcelona is better including me.

Quote from: RealMalatesta on November 11, 2022, 01:26:52 PM

Maybe when you compare the rosters it may look like Barcelona has a better roster but just because they have a better roster doesn't mean they have a better team, which is why I am guessing that it is going to be quite difficult for Barcelona to get a win. I feel like it’s going to be both teams winning at their home, and whichever team won with bigger margin will go to next stage, that type of competition looks quite possible for this match up.

I hope Barcelona will win both legs of the match later against Manchester United. I believe it's true, certainly not because of the roster but I think Barcelona's game is still better than Manchester United's.

Even in the previous season, Barcelona were thrown into the Europa League but the results were very bad, because Barcelona were eliminated in the quarter-finals by Eintracht Frankfurt. So even though Barcelona have players who look more luxurious, but Xavi can't give the best for Barcelona outside of La Liga.
So I also believe that for Manchester United it is better than Barcelona, because Manchester United under Erik ten Hag has made good progress.

So if you say it's the most minority opinion but I don't think so, because the quality of their performance is basically not much different because their coach has a lot of influence on their performance.
Therefore, any result in this match will still happen, it means that Barcelona will not always win. Because at this moment there is nothing special for Barcelona to play in a European tournament, because they get the same failure as last season.

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Quote from: izsara on November 11, 2022, 09:52:00 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on November 10, 2022, 10:21:42 AM

In the case of Juventus, I can say that historically they shouldn't have problems with opponents like Nante. The problem is the huge amount of injured people, really many.
Between the championship and the cups, it becomes difficult with the few players.
then if we had money, we could buy people, but we're short of that too.

There's still a long way to go and I think things like injured players are now completely resolved for Juventus although we don't know what will happen after this break but for sure looking at the condition of the Juventus players I think they will still be in good shape because they have overcome their players' injury problems and of course they have a great chance of winning.

Most players don't rest at the moment, it's just the game that's different. Maybe all leagues stop at this point, because the focus is on the world cup. Automatically players who play in their respective clubs will play in their country. Automatically their physical condition will also be drained. It is likely that the level of player injuries will increase and make the club will be overwhelmed when European matches resume. So, don't think that this is the recovery phase. But this is a more extra phase to drain players' energy.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on November 11, 2022, 01:26:52 PM

I do not see Barcelona as favourites to be fair, because United did looked bad for a while and yet they are much better right now compared to Barcelona who built a great roster but lost so badly in UCL, so they do not look that great.

I hope that will be the most minority opinion about Barcelona vs Manchester United. While anything that makes Barcelona fail miserably in the Champions League will never be the same when they play for the Europa League. I think the majority will think Barcelona is better including me.

Quote from: RealMalatesta on November 11, 2022, 01:26:52 PM

Maybe when you compare the rosters it may look like Barcelona has a better roster but just because they have a better roster doesn't mean they have a better team, which is why I am guessing that it is going to be quite difficult for Barcelona to get a win. I feel like it’s going to be both teams winning at their home, and whichever team won with bigger margin will go to next stage, that type of competition looks quite possible for this match up.

I hope Barcelona will win both legs of the match later against Manchester United. I believe it's true, certainly not because of the roster but I think Barcelona's game is still better than Manchester United's.

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Personally, I think Barcelona is much stronger than Manchester United. Manchester United has a strong squad. But their performance is erratic. Due to weak bonding between players, their overall performance is not good. Barcelona's defense on the other hand is a bit weak, but the bonding between the players is very good. So now Barcelona is at the top of La Liga. Barcelona's players are consistently playing well. I don't think it will be difficult for Barcelona to win against an unstable team like United in this situation. I see Barcelona as favorite against United.

I agree, Barcelona is more favorite win against MU, but MU is a unique club, they will fight much when facing a strong club like Barcelona. The squad will prepare very seriously bring the motivation when come to camp nou. What ever the situation, Ronaldo starter turn as starter if want to continue to next round because he have more experience than other like he was on real madird. he very know how barcelona play, but when Ten Hag not want him on the suqad, MU will have trouble to pierce their defenses.

I do not see Barcelona as favourites to be fair, because United did looked bad for a while and yet they are much better right now compared to Barcelona who built a great roster but lost so badly in UCL, so they do not look that great.

Maybe when you compare the rosters it may look like Barcelona has a better roster but just because they have a better roster doesn't mean they have a better team, which is why I am guessing that it is going to be quite difficult for Barcelona to get a win. I feel like it’s going to be both teams winning at their home, and whichever team won with bigger margin will go to next stage, that type of competition looks quite possible for this match up.

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