UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 39.

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Quote from: swogerino on May 28, 2023, 04:05:34 PM

Not only is Roma recently is in a better form than Sevilla but they have also Mourinho as a coach who has won more finals than any other coach (so to say,as there are a lot of coaches who have won even more Grin

) and his experience will be of great value to Roma in this final.Roma won last year the Europa Conference League against Feyenoord and winning another European cup in just two years which make it two out of two would be one of Roma club best achievement.

It won't be easy however as Sevilla is the team who has won Europa League more than any other team and they have won it even when they have not been the favorite just like this time.I think it is on this Wednesday so we will be watching a great game.

Sevilla have improved a lot in the last weeks and months compared to the beginning of the season and if you look at Roma they have only won 1 of their last 9 games and that was the 1-0 against Leverkusen. Rome didn't lose the second leg because Mourinho just played tactically so that the 90 minutes just went by without a goal, will that work against Sevilla? Probably not, because Sevilla plays much better in European competitions than in the league.

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It's a game that could go either way. Maybe something the neutarel football fan would like to see? I'm not a supporter of either team, but both teams have had some decent success lately, haven't they? If we don't look at the competition, because that was not good or perhaps bad for both teams. AS Roma will see this as a golden opportunity to move on to the CL next year. And for Sevilla it is the only chance for European tickets next season, because they can no longer qualify for anything else. I wonder who will have the best form in the final. I think that AS Roma is a lot stronger in terms of content.

The final match is certainly not easy to predict even if one of them looks better it doesn't guarantee that they can win easily
Sometimes the luck factor can change the end result so far we can only see which team's chances are bigger.

Not only is Roma recently is in a better form than Sevilla but they have also Mourinho as a coach who has won more finals than any other coach (so to say,as there are a lot of coaches who have won even more Grin

) and his experience will be of great value to Roma in this final.Roma won last year the Europa Conference League against Feyenoord and winning another European cup in just two years which make it two out of two would be one of Roma club best achievement.

It won't be easy however as Sevilla is the team who has won Europa League more than any other team and they have won it even when they have not been the favorite just like this time.I think it is on this Wednesday so we will be watching a great game.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on May 28, 2023, 03:26:35 PM

It's a game that could go either way. Maybe something the neutarel football fan would like to see? I'm not a supporter of either team, but both teams have had some decent success lately, haven't they? If we don't look at the competition, because that was not good or perhaps bad for both teams. AS Roma will see this as a golden opportunity to move on to the CL next year. And for Sevilla it is the only chance for European tickets next season, because they can no longer qualify for anything else. I wonder who will have the best form in the final. I think that AS Roma is a lot stronger in terms of content.

The final match is certainly not easy to predict even if one of them looks better it doesn't guarantee that they can win easily
Sometimes the luck factor can change the end result so far we can only see which team's chances are bigger.

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Quote from: klidex on May 28, 2023, 03:05:32 PM

The game between Sevilla and AS Roma will be tough competition but I think it's not a question of who can score but about reinforcing the defense which has to be stronger and more solid.
Because of course these two clubs will always look for loopholes to score early so they will think more about defense than attack but endanger the defense.

In terms of productivity goals Roma can actually be said to have lost if they were looking for that because we know they always lose momentum and their finishing is not good which makes it difficult for them so in this case they are looking for other gaps by focusing on defensive strength and trying to attack come back fast. They have done this from the start and they were able to get through previous rounds such as the quarter final against Feyenoord and the semi final against Leverkusen in the same way.
They just need a bit of momentum on the counter-attack and when that works they'll strengthen the defense even more until the end of the game.
It's different from Sevilla where they keep trying with several schemes and patiently wait for the opponent's negligence but on the other hand the experiment is always successful because they are aware that no matter how strong the defense is there will definitely be a few gaps to penetrate and they want that in their strategy.

Now, as you said, it depends on who will be more able to maintain concentration now because if one of them is more disciplined both in attack and defense then they will definitely be able to achieve good results in this final.

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In any case, the most experienced man on the field is Mourinho. But whether he can lead this team to the title again is also the question. That Mourinho has many qualities is of course a fact, but let's not forget that AS Roma also had the necessary luck in the games before this. In the 90th minute against Feyenoord it was 1-1 and they still managed to make it 2-1 and then they waltzed over it in extra time. AS Roma has started to play more attractive football under Mourinho, which is not something I expected quickly, to be honest.

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I don't know what Mourinho has in mind what strategy he will implement. If he chooses to defend, it means he wants to take the match to a penalty shoot-out, if he plays attacking then he probably wants to end the match in 2x45 minutes. But we'll see what he does, because sometimes he comes down with strategies that we don't even think about.

If AS Roma plays defensively, of course Sevilla will always attack to score goals so the possibility of a draw will not occur because I also don't think Sevilla will play defensively when Roma start to defend in the match. And so when Roma attack, I also don't think that Sevilla will last until the end of the game because Sevilla is also targeting victory to get the Europa League trophy this season. So both of them will probably play with their own best strategies to make the match even more exciting.

Sevilla and Roma have almost the same game. they have good defense and counter-attacks. but in the match later, those who can take advantage faster will get a bigger chance to win. quick goals will be the best way for both teams to snatch victory.
Like today's Sevilla match against Madrid. even though they lost, they managed to attack and get into the Madrid defense to create opportunities. unfortunately, Madrid does have a solid defense. I'm not sure either of them will make an aggressive strategy, but the fight will be on the middle ground.

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Roma and Seville have no much difference in performance, that's why I always predict the game will be interesting and very tough. For me this game is unpredictable, any of the team cam end up to be winner of the team. Roma is very good and they have a very good coach , so they have a chance to win the final.

It's a game that could go either way. Maybe something the neutarel football fan would like to see? I'm not a supporter of either team, but both teams have had some decent success lately, haven't they? If we don't look at the competition, because that was not good or perhaps bad for both teams. AS Roma will see this as a golden opportunity to move on to the CL next year. And for Sevilla it is the only chance for European tickets next season, because they can no longer qualify for anything else. I wonder who will have the best form in the final. I think that AS Roma is a lot stronger in terms of content.

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I don't know what Mourinho has in mind what strategy he will implement. If he chooses to defend, it means he wants to take the match to a penalty shoot-out, if he plays attacking then he probably wants to end the match in 2x45 minutes. But we'll see what he does, because sometimes he comes down with strategies that we don't even think about.

If AS Roma plays defensively, of course Sevilla will always attack to score goals so the possibility of a draw will not occur because I also don't think Sevilla will play defensively when Roma start to defend in the match. And so when Roma attack, I also don't think that Sevilla will last until the end of the game because Sevilla is also targeting victory to get the Europa League trophy this season. So both of them will probably play with their own best strategies to make the match even more exciting.

Sevilla and Roma have almost the same game. they have good defense and counter-attacks. but in the match later, those who can take advantage faster will get a bigger chance to win. quick goals will be the best way for both teams to snatch victory.
Like today's Sevilla match against Madrid. even though they lost, they managed to attack and get into the Madrid defense to create opportunities. unfortunately, Madrid does have a solid defense. I'm not sure either of them will make an aggressive strategy, but the fight will be on the middle ground.

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Roma and Seville have no much difference in performance, that's why I always predict the game will be interesting and very tough. For me this game is unpredictable, any of the team cam end up to be winner of the team. Roma is very good and they have a very good coach , so they have a chance to win the final.

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Sevilla has a lot of experience in playing European finals, they are the record holder of recent years for a reason. Seville is the favorite in that respect, but the bookmakers think AS Roma is a better football team. And if you're going to measure that against the performance in the competition, they might be right about that. I estimate the Italian league to be a lot stronger than the Spanish one, at least if you take the top 10 teams. It will be around 50-50, but Sevilla can make up for the whole season by winning the final. In the competition it was already bad from round 1.

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I don't know what Mourinho has in mind what strategy he will implement. If he chooses to defend, it means he wants to take the match to a penalty shoot-out, if he plays attacking then he probably wants to end the match in 2x45 minutes. But we'll see what he does, because sometimes he comes down with strategies that we don't even think about.

If AS Roma plays defensively, of course Sevilla will always attack to score goals so the possibility of a draw will not occur because I also don't think Sevilla will play defensively when Roma start to defend in the match. And so when Roma attack, I also don't think that Sevilla will last until the end of the game because Sevilla is also targeting victory to get the Europa League trophy this season. So both of them will probably play with their own best strategies to make the match even more exciting.

Sevilla and Roma have almost the same game. they have good defense and counter-attacks. but in the match later, those who can take advantage faster will get a bigger chance to win. quick goals will be the best way for both teams to snatch victory.
Like today's Sevilla match against Madrid. even though they lost, they managed to attack and get into the Madrid defense to create opportunities. unfortunately, Madrid does have a solid defense. I'm not sure either of them will make an aggressive strategy, but the fight will be on the middle ground.

The game between Sevilla and AS Roma will be tough competition but I think it's not a question of who can score but about reinforcing the defense which has to be stronger and more solid.
Because of course these two clubs will always look for loopholes to score early so they will think more about defense than attack but endanger the defense.

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A complete 50-50 match. If Mourinho also manages to win this cup, he will become immortal in Rome, won't he? You could say that the level of the conference league is lower last season, but that is absolutely not the case with the EL. But the title is not in yet. And it is also important by enforcing direct placement for the CL in this way, otherwise that would also be a fairly impossible task through the competition, in which they are not playing well at the moment. All in all a masterpiece from Mourinho.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on May 28, 2023, 02:48:43 AM

I don't know what Mourinho has in mind what strategy he will implement. If he chooses to defend, it means he wants to take the match to a penalty shoot-out, if he plays attacking then he probably wants to end the match in 2x45 minutes. But we'll see what he does, because sometimes he comes down with strategies that we don't even think about.

Only a few days left for this match to be held, we will soon find out what the two coaches from their respective teams will implement. So far, we are only speculating and assuming referring to their matches and available statistics. even if we refer to the team's performance in the league, at least Sevilla is better than AS Roma. they experienced a significant increase both in the domestic competition, as well as in this competition. so it's only natural that Sevilla is slightly more favored than AS Roma.

On the contrary, AS Roma's performance was very unstable in the League competition. but at least, in this competition AS Roma cannot be underestimated at all. because, after all, Jose Mourinho is a coach who is truly experienced and at the same time has tactics that can subvert opponents by making the opposing team frustrated, including tactics to provoke opposing players. and if Sevilla are provoked it will be a problem for them. or, as you say. for sure, everything is very possible.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on May 28, 2023, 02:48:43 AM

I don't know what Mourinho has in mind what strategy he will implement. If he chooses to defend, it means he wants to take the match to a penalty shoot-out, if he plays attacking then he probably wants to end the match in 2x45 minutes. But we'll see what he does, because sometimes he comes down with strategies that we don't even think about.

There's no point acting like we don't know how Mourinho is going to play in that final. It pretty obvious that he's going to defend. If he attacks he will lose. He will lose because of two reasons
1. Sevilla is better team in terms of attacking football, so if he plays that kind of football he'll be playing into Sevilla's hands
2. Mourinho is not very good at attacking football, so he won't get his set up correctly

If he defends he has a better chance, but he can't do it for the whole 90 minutes because it will be foolish of him. He'll defend and attack whenever he gets the chance.
I see Sevilla winning that game in normal time. The only chance Roma has is Mourinho.

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When Roma displayed a defensive scheme like this they realized that it was possible and a little safer for them than having to play frontally and compensate for the fast game that Sevilla did later.
Mou always does things like this when they play with even bigger clubs and even when they meet a decisive match they always do it with the same scheme.
They already have a basis in a scheme like this so there really is no reason to throw away higher probabilities when the scores still don't make a difference. but that doesn't mean they will be completely like this I feel because when this scheme doesn't work out and ends up falling behind I think the best thing is to be direct and play offensively in hopes of having a positive impact.
But for the beginning I think there's nothing wrong with doing this scheme.

As for the offensive option, it seems that it will be a forced choice from Mourinho if they finally start to get pushed and miss several goals from Sevilla.

It is possible to happen, but indeed it depends on the situation, because if they are left behind by a goal deficit, they will definitely do that. The initial plan is for sure that they will be totally defensive in this final.

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But it seems that it will not happen if more than 2 goals are conceded and Mourinho will definitely continue to use the same strategy to frustrate the Sevilla players when carrying out attacks on Roma. Now for Sevilla, they have to be smart to find gaps in the Roma defense if they want to win and even though it's quite difficult, I hope Sevilla can do it, otherwise we will be presented with a boring game from Roma, who always use a defensive strategy.

I think it's the other way around, if Roma run into problems and lose by a large margin and still have time left, then indeed the only way is to go on the offensive, because if they lose and do a defensive scheme, wouldn't that please Sevilla more because they don't have to bother to do security in terms of This.

But that's the worst case scenario for Roma and I think it will go a little further because it's not certain that Roma will lose like that.
What is clear now is that this final will be interesting and I am looking forward to how Sevilla's sporadic actions with their fast attacks are held up by Roma with a strong defense as well.

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As a matter of fact, Sevilla is a lucky team since according to what Mourinho said, Dybala will not be able to play in the final match. Although nothing has been confirmed yet, I do know that if he doesn't play against Sevilla, there are not many good alternatives to replace him. On the other hand, there is the possibility to say Mourinho just wants to show Dybala won't be able to play in the final match, and in the last second he let Dybala play and surprise the opponent.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/dybala-an-injury-doubt-romas-europa-league-final-says-mourinho-2023-05-25/

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I don't know what Mourinho has in mind what strategy he will implement. If he chooses to defend, it means he wants to take the match to a penalty shoot-out, if he plays attacking then he probably wants to end the match in 2x45 minutes. But we'll see what he does, because sometimes he comes down with strategies that we don't even think about.

Jose Mourinho is a coach who doesn't care what people say about him, as long as it's true in his opinion and will lead to a better game then he will do it. AS Roma needs his genius in this final match, because it will change everything for them. In Serie A a place in the Champions League is impossible for them to get, and in the Europa League they still have hope for that by winning it. But their last match ended in defeat, that's not good for them, because it might affect their psychology.

Yes, the final meeting later, of course, makes Sevilla have to play carefully because against Jose Mourinho's team in the final cannot be underestimated. Even though Sevilla is the ruler of the Europa League, Mourinho is an experienced coach and has lifted the Europa League trophy with Manchester United. He is also experienced in the finals of European competitions. so I think Mourinho will make a strategy to play Sevilla in the final with a lot of surprises.

We know that Mourinho's experience has won the Champions League twice with Inter Milan and FC Porto. Then last season, Mourinho presented the European Conference League title to Roma. I think Roma can take the chance to win the Europa League this season, my prediction is Roma will win narrowly 0 - 1

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Quote from: FanEagle on May 28, 2023, 08:19:41 AM

If Dybala misses the game then I am pretty sure that it is going to be super tough for Roma to beat Sevilla, he is the type of player that can impact the game at any moment and they should be glad that he is on their side. He was at Juventus and to be fair I believe that Juventus was a better team, without that penalty they got, they would have been higher up as well.

I think Dybala is what makes Roma be better than Juventus in this Europa cup right now and without him things could be tough. I am not saying they will lose, Roma could still win even without him, there is no doubt about that, any finals game could go anyway. However, I could easily say that it is not going to be easy, it is going to definitely be tough for them without a doubt.

It will be Jose Mourinho's decision whether he puts him in the starting line-up or he returns from the bench as we have seen so many times. But I believe whatever Jose Mourinho does he has his own plans, and let's see how AS Roma's starting line-up will be, whether Dybala's name is on their list or not. Apart from all that, I also believe that most people would wish Dybala's name was on that list.

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I don't know what Mourinho has in mind what strategy he will implement. If he chooses to defend, it means he wants to take the match to a penalty shoot-out, if he plays attacking then he probably wants to end the match in 2x45 minutes. But we'll see what he does, because sometimes he comes down with strategies that we don't even think about.

If AS Roma plays defensively, of course Sevilla will always attack to score goals so the possibility of a draw will not occur because I also don't think Sevilla will play defensively when Roma start to defend in the match. And so when Roma attack, I also don't think that Sevilla will last until the end of the game because Sevilla is also targeting victory to get the Europa League trophy this season. So both of them will probably play with their own best strategies to make the match even more exciting.

Sevilla and Roma have almost the same game. they have good defense and counter-attacks. but in the match later, those who can take advantage faster will get a bigger chance to win. quick goals will be the best way for both teams to snatch victory.
Like today's Sevilla match against Madrid. even though they lost, they managed to attack and get into the Madrid defense to create opportunities. unfortunately, Madrid does have a solid defense. I'm not sure either of them will make an aggressive strategy, but the fight will be on the middle ground.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on May 28, 2023, 02:48:43 AM

I don't know what Mourinho has in mind what strategy he will implement. If he chooses to defend, it means he wants to take the match to a penalty shoot-out, if he plays attacking then he probably wants to end the match in 2x45 minutes. But we'll see what he does, because sometimes he comes down with strategies that we don't even think about.

If AS Roma plays defensively, of course Sevilla will always attack to score goals so the possibility of a draw will not occur because I also don't think Sevilla will play defensively when Roma start to defend in the match. And so when Roma attack, I also don't think that Sevilla will last until the end of the game because Sevilla is also targeting victory to get the Europa League trophy this season. So both of them will probably play with their own best strategies to make the match even more exciting.

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Because when they play more openly by responding to each other in their attacks, it will be an interesting match and not boring. So yes, if AS Roma is still going to play defensively, then I don't think this method will give AS Roma a chance to win. Let's look forward to it.

The fact that if mourinho has been always using defensive strategy. didn't you even watch the final of conference league? Cheesy

Mourinho worked quite well as coach of Rome he managed to bring Rome to have some extraordinary achievements.
Even while coached by Mourinho, Rome has developed quite rapidly, in contrast to before when he was still being cared for by Paulo Foncesa.
In the Europa League this season Mourinho managed to bring Roma to the final and will compete on 1 June.
I'm sure Roma can win the Europa League title and they will play aggressively by prioritizing attack to get the chance to score goals more easily.

Mourinho won the Conference league last year, if he wins the Europa league cup this year, the UCL teams will have to fear for next year Grin

Europa league final was a great experience for Mourinho. He has won this trophy in the past, but after such consistent successes with Roma, we can talk about the possibility of maybe taking over another team this summer.

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I hope both teams don't try to play it safe and try to take the game to penalties. I mean when they play it safe and are too careful, it will make the game uninteresting and monotonous, because both teams don't want to take the risk of implementing an aggressive game. I want to see both teams appear open and trade attacks with each other to make the match interesting.

It seems that the safe game will not happen, considering that Roma have a style of play that is more defensive than attacking, so I think it's possible that we can only watch Sevilla carry out repeated attacks to destroy Rome's defense. On the other hand, maybe Roma also can't rely on continuous luck when using a defensive strategy and of course Mourinho has prepared a new tactic to be able to suppress Sevilla. My prediction is that in the first half Rome will be more defensive and in the second half the two teams will launch non-stop attacks to achieve victory, but if these two things don't change anything, it seems that it is true that the match will go to penalties.

When Roma displayed a defensive scheme like this they realized that it was possible and a little safer for them than having to play frontally and compensate for the fast game that Sevilla did later.
Mou always does things like this when they play with even bigger clubs and even when they meet a decisive match they always do it with the same scheme.
They already have a basis in a scheme like this so there really is no reason to throw away higher probabilities when the scores still don't make a difference. but that doesn't mean they will be completely like this I feel because when this scheme doesn't work out and ends up falling behind I think the best thing is to be direct and play offensively in hopes of having a positive impact.
But for the beginning I think there's nothing wrong with doing this scheme.

As for the offensive option, it seems that it will be a forced choice from Mourinho if they finally start to get pushed and miss several goals from Sevilla. But it seems that it will not happen if more than 2 goals are conceded and Mourinho will definitely continue to use the same strategy to frustrate the Sevilla players when carrying out attacks on Roma. Now for Sevilla, they have to be smart to find gaps in the Roma defense if they want to win and even though it's quite difficult, I hope Sevilla can do it, otherwise we will be presented with a boring game from Roma, who always use a defensive strategy.

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