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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I was also surprised by the Manchester United game against Omonia yesterday. They seem to be struggling even though they are only against a small team from Cyprus and they will almost lose if Marcus Rashford doesn't score a third goal. Ronaldo is still under-perform considering his age is also not young anymore.

Ronaldo can't play like he used to, but united is a team with more potential. With 2-3 transfer reinforcements, this team can come to a really good place. They especially need to fix the defense. I think they will try to solve some of this problem with kim min jae from napoli. If that happens, it could really work. A striker and a midfielder would be really good. They are conceding too many goals. If they don't find a solution for the defense, they will drop mentally after every goal they concede.

Ronaldo looks very frustrated with his performance. I see at this time the CR7 seems to be depressed so it is very difficult to restore the actual performance. But I'm sure if Erik Ten Haag gives Ronaldo minutes every week he will find his best form again. Ten Haag must also focus on his squad and not be consumed by issues that make him hesitate in making decisions and the former Ajax manager must also make use of experienced players like Casemiro and Varane.

Ten Hag is doing wierd moves for Man utd this season he bought some players and putted them on bench especially Casemiro that played every match for Real Madrid,so this move is really wierd from im to not put him from the start. While Ronaldo currently is in bad form and isnt used to not playing or playing only 45 minutes from the bench. He is a player that needs to either play 90 minutes or not play at all and how we all know his ego he is not satisfied with not playing at all.

Ten Hag always be used different players on his starting eleven on Europa League than Premier League and seems he always pushing to played Ronaldo in this competition although we all know Ronaldo not in his top performance and for Casemiro indeed Ten Hag still didn't playing him until 90 minutes because he is more likely to trust Mctominay than Casemiro but i will assume this because Casemiro still cannot fully adapt to his strategy so Ten Hag didn't dare to playing him since early minutes but it cross in my mind that on this competition Ten Hag always used some of reserved players and probably he didn't make Europa League as high priority because he targeted Manchester United reach to top 4 at premier league

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Quote from: iamsange on October 08, 2022, 02:52:57 AM

Ronaldo looks very frustrated with his performance. I see at this time the CR7 seems to be depressed so it is very difficult to restore the actual performance. But I'm sure if Erik Ten Haag gives Ronaldo minutes every week he will find his best form again. Ten Haag must also focus on his squad and not be consumed by issues that make him hesitate in making decisions and the former Ajax manager must also make use of experienced players like Casemiro and Varane.

Yes, he didn't seem to be enjoying his performance in that game, it was clear from his expression when he missed his chance to score. he was very depressed, especially when Omonia had an early lead in the first half. he really wanted to score, but he could only provide one assist to Rashford.

You forget, Ronaldo is always installed as the main starter in every Europa league competition. but in his three appearances, he can only create one goal and even then from a penalty goal.
IMO, he has to start making peace with himself first, leave his ego behind and start enjoying his current position.
I'm sure, if he does, slowly, he will find his rhythm again.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

We are really disappointed with Manchester United's form. Agree with you, they have quality players in their team. I think Manchester United's players are humanly damaged. Each player needs to fulfill their own responsibilities. Also the coach can try some new techniques. Hopefully they will come back in a new way.

Manchester United's performance has been poor since the previous season. They have a lot of talented players in their squad. But due to the lack of bonding between the players, they are not able to play well. Also their match strategy is weak. But now their performance is slowly stabilizing. Hopefully we will get a better performance from United this season than last season.

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Quote from: execijutiere on October 07, 2022, 04:43:11 PM

I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

We are really disappointed with Manchester United's form. Agree with you, they have quality players in their team. I think Manchester United's players are humanly damaged. Each player needs to fulfill their own responsibilities. Also the coach can try some new techniques. Hopefully they will come back in a new way.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I was also surprised by the Manchester United game against Omonia yesterday. They seem to be struggling even though they are only against a small team from Cyprus and they will almost lose if Marcus Rashford doesn't score a third goal. Ronaldo is still under-perform considering his age is also not young anymore.

Ronaldo can't play like he used to, but united is a team with more potential. With 2-3 transfer reinforcements, this team can come to a really good place. They especially need to fix the defense. I think they will try to solve some of this problem with kim min jae from napoli. If that happens, it could really work. A striker and a midfielder would be really good. They are conceding too many goals. If they don't find a solution for the defense, they will drop mentally after every goal they concede.

Ronaldo looks very frustrated with his performance. I see at this time the CR7 seems to be depressed so it is very difficult to restore the actual performance. But I'm sure if Erik Ten Haag gives Ronaldo minutes every week he will find his best form again. Ten Haag must also focus on his squad and not be consumed by issues that make him hesitate in making decisions and the former Ajax manager must also make use of experienced players like Casemiro and Varane.

Ten Hag is doing wierd moves for Man utd this season he bought some players and putted them on bench especially Casemiro that played every match for Real Madrid,so this move is really wierd from im to not put him from the start. While Ronaldo currently is in bad form and isnt used to not playing or playing only 45 minutes from the bench. He is a player that needs to either play 90 minutes or not play at all and how we all know his ego he is not satisfied with not playing at all.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I was also surprised by the Manchester United game against Omonia yesterday. They seem to be struggling even though they are only against a small team from Cyprus and they will almost lose if Marcus Rashford doesn't score a third goal. Ronaldo is still under-perform considering his age is also not young anymore.

Ronaldo can't play like he used to, but united is a team with more potential. With 2-3 transfer reinforcements, this team can come to a really good place. They especially need to fix the defense. I think they will try to solve some of this problem with kim min jae from napoli. If that happens, it could really work. A striker and a midfielder would be really good. They are conceding too many goals. If they don't find a solution for the defense, they will drop mentally after every goal they concede.

Manchester United don't need a striker. What they need is to fix their midfield very well. The only outstanding player in that midfield is Eriksen, others have not gotten their place yet, including Bruno. If Erik Ten Hag can play both Casemiro and McTomny at 4 and set Eriksen up to play 10 and then play Sancho, Martial and Anthony. It will make sense. Rashford is more deadly when he plays from wing and when he plays with Martial. So second half he would be introduced to pair with Martial.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I was also surprised by the Manchester United game against Omonia yesterday. They seem to be struggling even though they are only against a small team from Cyprus and they will almost lose if Marcus Rashford doesn't score a third goal. Ronaldo is still under-perform considering his age is also not young anymore.

Ronaldo can't play like he used to, but united is a team with more potential. With 2-3 transfer reinforcements, this team can come to a really good place. They especially need to fix the defense. I think they will try to solve some of this problem with kim min jae from napoli. If that happens, it could really work. A striker and a midfielder would be really good. They are conceding too many goals. If they don't find a solution for the defense, they will drop mentally after every goal they concede.

Ronaldo looks very frustrated with his performance. I see at this time the CR7 seems to be depressed so it is very difficult to restore the actual performance. But I'm sure if Erik Ten Haag gives Ronaldo minutes every week he will find his best form again. Ten Haag must also focus on his squad and not be consumed by issues that make him hesitate in making decisions and the former Ajax manager must also make use of experienced players like Casemiro and Varane.

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Quote from: bekti3 on October 07, 2022, 05:42:31 PM

It can be said that Manchester United is currently still a little difficult, especially for their defense.
Against Omonia and conceding 2 clear goals, it's a little difficult to say that their performance is okay because this can still be said to be lacking in terms of defense.
But this result is still much better than they failed and in the second meeting later Manchester United should be able to maximize their players' advantage against Omonia.

For the next meeting, it is certain that each team will improve every weakness they have, including Manchester United. Because Manchester United is securing its position in Group E in order to qualify for the next phase, but for the next match with Omonia at Manchester United's home, I am more confident that Manchester United will win again later.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I was also surprised by the Manchester United game against Omonia yesterday. They seem to be struggling even though they are only against a small team from Cyprus and they will almost lose if Marcus Rashford doesn't score a third goal. Ronaldo is still under-perform considering his age is also not young anymore.

Even though Omonia is a relatively weak team, United's performance against them was not good either. Manchester United have to fight hard to win this match. Manchester United was even behind 1-0 at the end of the first half. Manchester United's performance is still completely unstable. They are not able to play well even against weaker teams. Ten Hag should focus more on Europa League matches.

It can be said that Manchester United is currently still a little difficult, especially for their defense.
Against Omonia and conceding 2 clear goals, it's a little difficult to say that their performance is okay because this can still be said to be lacking in terms of defense.
But this result is still much better than they failed and in the second meeting later Manchester United should be able to maximize their players' advantage against Omonia.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I was also surprised by the Manchester United game against Omonia yesterday. They seem to be struggling even though they are only against a small team from Cyprus and they will almost lose if Marcus Rashford doesn't score a third goal. Ronaldo is still under-perform considering his age is also not young anymore.

Ronaldo can't play like he used to, but united is a team with more potential. With 2-3 transfer reinforcements, this team can come to a really good place. They especially need to fix the defense. I think they will try to solve some of this problem with kim min jae from napoli. If that happens, it could really work. A striker and a midfielder would be really good. They are conceding too many goals. If they don't find a solution for the defense, they will drop mentally after every goal they concede.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I was also surprised by the Manchester United game against Omonia yesterday. They seem to be struggling even though they are only against a small team from Cyprus and they will almost lose if Marcus Rashford doesn't score a third goal. Ronaldo is still under-perform considering his age is also not young anymore.

Even though Omonia is a relatively weak team, United's performance against them was not good either. Manchester United have to fight hard to win this match. Manchester United was even behind 1-0 at the end of the first half. Manchester United's performance is still completely unstable. They are not able to play well even against weaker teams. Ten Hag should focus more on Europa League matches.

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Quote from: execijutiere on October 07, 2022, 04:43:11 PM

I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I was also surprised by the Manchester United game against Omonia yesterday. They seem to be struggling even though they are only against a small team from Cyprus and they will almost lose if Marcus Rashford doesn't score a third goal. Ronaldo is still under-perform considering his age is also not young anymore.

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Quote from: execijutiere on October 07, 2022, 04:43:11 PM

I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

Because although they have good players individually, they don't play as a team. I think there is a problem with team chemistry. They should have beaten an opponent like Omonia Nicosia more easily. They got 3 points as a result, so we can't blame them. They will probably qualify from this group, maybe not in first place, but they will almost certainly advance from this group.
Ronaldo is far from his past flamboyant performance, but luckily there are Marcus Rashford and Anthony Martial and they are scoring goals. Manchester United's weaknesses in defense are obvious, they couldn't find a solution this year. That's why they have to score more goals than they concede in every match.

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Man U's game yesterday showed that their level of football is just right for the Europa League but not for the Champions League... They almost drew with Omonia, but that's not the worst thing... They should`ve never conceded a goal from Omonia, but they conceded not even one, but two... If they keep playing at this pace, they will be out of the league...

Manchester United has undoubtedly done poorly in the Europa League competition; their last two victories do not necessarily indicate that they will be the favorites to win the competition. If Eric Ten Hag wants to make the squad one of the favorites to win the competition, the team's style of play must be improved. They have been struggling in their own league in addition to the Europa League. Let's see whether they can improve in their upcoming match.

I was quite surprised honestly when I saw the results for the first time. 2-3! I am wondering right now how far they could go in EL..
Lazio result wasn't good too. Roma lost 1-2 vs Betis. At least Betis is a good team comparing to the two others.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

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We all know how it went last year, right? There were a few favorites but they all went down 1 by 1 without a chance. What we remember most is the defeat that Barcelona suffered at home against Eintract Frankfurt. Such things can also happen this season. Arsenal and United are the favorites on paper, but they can also have bad days and then you can be out of it. It's also not the case that the rest of the field of participants can't do anything about it. The differences have become much smaller and you should always watch out for underestimation. We have already seen that in a game of United against Sociedad in Manchester. They lost that too and that can only happen again.

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Quote from: 3meek on October 07, 2022, 01:26:05 PM

Man U's game yesterday showed that their level of football is just right for the Europa League but not for the Champions League... They almost drew with Omonia, but that's not the worst thing... They should`ve never conceded a goal from Omonia, but they conceded not even one, but two... If they keep playing at this pace, they will be out of the league...

Manchester United has undoubtedly done poorly in the Europa League competition; their last two victories do not necessarily indicate that they will be the favorites to win the competition. If Eric Ten Hag wants to make the squad one of the favorites to win the competition, the team's style of play must be improved. They have been struggling in their own league in addition to the Europa League. Let's see whether they can improve in their upcoming match.

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Quote from: 3meek on October 07, 2022, 01:26:05 PM

Man U's game yesterday showed that their level of football is just right for the Europa League but not for the Champions League... They almost drew with Omonia, but that's not the worst thing... They should`ve never conceded a goal from Omonia, but they conceded not even one, but two... If they keep playing at this pace, they will be out of the league...

They will get better but not too fast as the fans expected
They are still not what we think they should have been but Ten Hag is a good Coach and should be supported
He is tactical and knows how to use those player's with time they will be in the level of Man City

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Quote from: 3meek on October 07, 2022, 01:26:05 PM

Man U's game yesterday showed that their level of football is just right for the Europa League but not for the Champions League... They almost drew with Omonia, but that's not the worst thing... They should`ve never conceded a goal from Omonia, but they conceded not even one, but two... If they keep playing at this pace, they will be out of the league...

Despite winning three points, Manchester United's performance in this match again reaped public disappointment, especially among their loyal supporters. Because Manchester United almost accepted a draw or even defeat when they visited the headquarters of Omania Nicosia. The victory achieved by Manchester United itself must be obtained with difficulty.

In fact, when viewed from the quality of the players this season, they deserve to be able to talk a lot and can set high targets to play in the Champions League next season. But United's appearance is inversely proportional to the quality of the squad they have. I agree with you, if there is no improvement in the game, then their run will quickly end in the Europa League.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on October 07, 2022, 09:18:43 AM

Fenerbahce scored 2 goals and easy victory. This victory is of great importance to be the leader of the group. We will understand this better in the following matches. Fenerbahce played extraordinary game but a better result could have been achieved. Because Fenerbahçe couldn't benefit from some other absolute goal chances also.

This is an easy victory because indeed the opponent can also be said to be below them so it is quite natural for Fenerbache to win in this match.
with this result they managed to be at the top of group B but it's interesting to see this group because Dynamo Kyiv so far haven't won even once even though I expected more in all three teams (Fenerbache, Rennes and Kyiv) but they seem very difficult to be in Europa League this season.

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