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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2022, 08:52:26 PM

Roma are going to play an important game in the group. They are going to play an away game against Betis this time. They already lost the game in Italy by 2-1 which wasn't expected for me. I thought like Roma would win by a slight margin but they were devastated by the goal came in the last minutes.

I understand that their main target is to become successful in the Serie A and qualify for the Champions League. But they are normally among the biggest candidates for the Europa League title for now. If they lose this one as well and Ludogorets beat HJK then Roma's chance of moving on will be pretty low. Therefore I don't think Roma will lose this time but I can't be confident of a win.

Betis are the strongest team in this group and in fact, Betis were previously able to win while playing at the Stadio Olimpico. Betis is a team that has been at least consistent from the last few seasons in La Liga at least for the start of the season that can compete well in the top 5, which means at this moment Betis are indeed in their best form. Therefore, I personally still believe Betis will still win in this match, because Roma are still not very strong and cannot be fully expected for the desired result.

Real Betis are in very good form. They have been able to consistently perform well in La Liga. They have been able to continue the consistency in the Europa League as well. They won all three matches. They also managed to defeat Roma, one of the strongest teams in Group C, in an away match. They have performed very well. Real Betis will finish the first round at the top of Group C. Because the performance of Roma, one of the strongest teams in the group, is still not stable. My guess is that Real Betis will easily win at least 5 of the 6 matches in the group stage.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2022, 08:52:26 PM

Roma are going to play an important game in the group. They are going to play an away game against Betis this time. They already lost the game in Italy by 2-1 which wasn't expected for me. I thought like Roma would win by a slight margin but they were devastated by the goal came in the last minutes.

I understand that their main target is to become successful in the Serie A and qualify for the Champions League. But they are normally among the biggest candidates for the Europa League title for now. If they lose this one as well and Ludogorets beat HJK then Roma's chance of moving on will be pretty low. Therefore I don't think Roma will lose this time but I can't be confident of a win.

Even most chances they could be able to qualify for next round in Europa Cup, but their performance is still not good for having defend their title in this season while mostly peoples are feeling their focus is Serie A but with current performance they have no good chance for staying into top four because right now competition is not easy in Serie A with Inter and Juventus both are also struggling for keeping their position at the top.

Napoli and Atlanta doing good job and surprise package Udinese is also performing good, so they need to be focus here as well and give their best now after their next match against Betis they have two easy games which will give them good chance for qualifying and have tried to give their best for defend of their title.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 09, 2022, 09:01:31 PM

United should qualify easily in this average group , they are just underperformed in the last few seasons despite having a huge transfer budget and splashing the money into big names , yet they are struggling get too many draws and losses, lack of achievements and slowly losing its place as one of the biggest club in the world.

this time i would say united might qualified to get through the next phase but will remain struggle to get any trophy especially this europa league trophy where they used to compete in the highest level competition , now even europa league would get them a hard times.

IMO. Manchester United began to find the form of the game although not too solid. however, it looks like Man United will have no trouble getting through to the next round phase.
Omonia and FC Sherrif are not difficult opponents to beat in the second leg later, as well as Real Sosiedad. should be with Man United's current form, it is not a problem for them to win every game in the Europa group phase.
But to win the Europa League, it's difficult for Man United at the moment. at least, Ten Hag is targeting Manchester United to finish in the top four of the premier league.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2022, 08:52:26 PM

Roma are going to play an important game in the group. They are going to play an away game against Betis this time. They already lost the game in Italy by 2-1 which wasn't expected for me. I thought like Roma would win by a slight margin but they were devastated by the goal came in the last minutes.

I understand that their main target is to become successful in the Serie A and qualify for the Champions League. But they are normally among the biggest candidates for the Europa League title for now. If they lose this one as well and Ludogorets beat HJK then Roma's chance of moving on will be pretty low. Therefore I don't think Roma will lose this time but I can't be confident of a win.

Roma's motivation to win the Europa League is questionable - there will be very strong competition there (especially after third places from the Champions League fall there). But after yesterday's match, where Roma, playing almost the entire game on the power play, hardly beat Lecce with a minimal advantage, I would say that Roma's results are the result of a weak game rather than weak motivation. For some reason they still can't show their best game.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2022, 08:52:26 PM

Roma are going to play an important game in the group. They are going to play an away game against Betis this time. They already lost the game in Italy by 2-1 which wasn't expected for me. I thought like Roma would win by a slight margin but they were devastated by the goal came in the last minutes.

I understand that their main target is to become successful in the Serie A and qualify for the Champions League. But they are normally among the biggest candidates for the Europa League title for now. If they lose this one as well and Ludogorets beat HJK then Roma's chance of moving on will be pretty low. Therefore I don't think Roma will lose this time but I can't be confident of a win.

Betis are the strongest team in this group and in fact, Betis were previously able to win while playing at the Stadio Olimpico. Betis is a team that has been at least consistent from the last few seasons in La Liga at least for the start of the season that can compete well in the top 5, which means at this moment Betis are indeed in their best form. Therefore, I personally still believe Betis will still win in this match, because Roma are still not very strong and cannot be fully expected for the desired result.

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Manchester United's victory in the Premier League against Everton today could make their mentality increase a little.
This is something that is very good indeed with their current condition obviously a win must be obtained because this can be a trend keeper for them especially for their second meeting to be held at Old Trafford and obviously this is something that is very profitable for Ten Hag I think .

Winning against Everton in the Premier League is something that is extraordinary and much needed by Manchester United, although only eight games have been played by Manchester United, but it is enough to make Manchester United to be in the top five of the standings.

In the Europa League Manchester United are back against Omonia which was beaten a few days ago and the next match which will take place at Old Trafford will make Manchester United more confident to continue to win matches and secure its position in second place in the group standings.

United should qualify easily in this average group , they are just underperformed in the last few seasons despite having a huge transfer budget and splashing the money into big names , yet they are struggling get too many draws and losses, lack of achievements and slowly losing its place as one of the biggest club in the world.

this time i would say united might qualified to get through the next phase but will remain struggle to get any trophy especially this europa league trophy where they used to compete in the highest level competition , now even europa league would get them a hard times.

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Roma are going to play an important game in the group. They are going to play an away game against Betis this time. They already lost the game in Italy by 2-1 which wasn't expected for me. I thought like Roma would win by a slight margin but they were devastated by the goal came in the last minutes.

I understand that their main target is to become successful in the Serie A and qualify for the Champions League. But they are normally among the biggest candidates for the Europa League title for now. If they lose this one as well and Ludogorets beat HJK then Roma's chance of moving on will be pretty low. Therefore I don't think Roma will lose this time but I can't be confident of a win.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on October 09, 2022, 06:43:31 PM

it is going to be a match to gain confidence or maybe lose it, depends on the result, but it's obvious that Man utd are going to win, and probably Real Sociedad too, so it very likely that Sociedad will be first and Man United will be 2nd by the end of the group stage phase.

In group E of the Europa League only two teams have been really consistent to get a win and that is also due to their good performance, because I see that Omonia and FC Sheriff are not so strong in group E of the Europa League which is very possible not to qualify for the Europa League. round of 16 for both (Omonia and FC Sheriff).

And overall, Manchester United only need to win two more games in the group stage to ensure they qualify for the next round. So Manchester United also won't be bad if it has to be defeated by Real Sociedad in the group stage if Manchester United can beat Omonia and FC Sheriff.

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I totally agree with you. Manchester United coach Ten Hag is still not friendly with the players. And his conflict with Ronaldo is quite visible. He doesn't want Ronaldo being used in Premier League matches. But Ronaldo is still a world-class player. His fitness is still excellent. If Ronaldo is brought on after 60 minutes, he is still capable of performing well. But of course, Ten Hag should help to strengthen the bonding of team players with Ronaldo. But Ten Hag is probably not helping Ronaldo. This is why we are not getting the expected performance from Ronaldo even in Europa League matches.

The reason he didn't play in the game against City also seemed quite contrived in my opinion which made me a little less fond of this because this kind of thing would make Ronaldo even more uncomfortable at Manchester United.
But it is true that Ten Hag may also have some other considerations because by looking at the current condition of Ronaldo, which in terms of performance is also clearly a bit lost, this could indeed be another thing for Ten Hag's consideration.

Ronaldo has had a difficult start to the season this year and Ronaldo has only played once in the Premier League, and he has also been off the bench more often in recent games.
and I don't think this is because of Ten Hag's consideration, maybe because Ten Hag doesn't really like or don't believe in Ronaldo which makes his current name not so popular.
and what we see Ronaldo will look good and can also score goals if he plays a lot of 90 minutes, and if Ronaldo continues to be treated like that I'm sure he will leave Old Trafford sooner.

Ronaldo does not want to stay at Manchester United, and Ten Hag is not interested in keeping Ronaldo now. So he removed Ronaldo from his match plan.
However, Ten Hag gave Ronaldo a chance to perform in a Premier League match after a long time against Everton. And Ronaldo has proved his mettle. Although not in the starting XI, Ronaldo was brought on as a replacement for Anthony Martial. And scored in the 44th minute of the first half to give the team a 2-1 lead. And because of Ronaldo's goal, United earned full points in the match. Hopefully, Ten Hag won't consider Ronaldo a weak player now. And Ronaldo will be given the respect he deserves.

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Quote from: bekti3 on October 09, 2022, 03:33:42 PM

Manchester United's victory in the Premier League against Everton today could make their mentality increase a little.
This is something that is very good indeed with their current condition obviously a win must be obtained because this can be a trend keeper for them especially for their second meeting to be held at Old Trafford and obviously this is something that is very profitable for Ten Hag I think .

Winning against Everton in the Premier League is something that is extraordinary and much needed by Manchester United, although only eight games have been played by Manchester United, but it is enough to make Manchester United to be in the top five of the standings.

In the Europa League Manchester United are back against Omonia which was beaten a few days ago and the next match which will take place at Old Trafford will make Manchester United more confident to continue to win matches and secure its position in second place in the group standings.

After Man United was defeated by Man City with a fairly large score, which made the Man United players a little mentally depressed. But finally
Man United could bounce back by winning against Everton, this means that Man United is back on the right track to be able to compete for the top 4
this season. And the most memorable thing happened when Man United beat Everton was Ronaldo's goal, in which Man United's winning goal was
scored by Ronaldo. I am happy that Ronaldo, who was only a substitute, could show his quality as a great player. I hope Ronaldo can rediscover
his best form, and can make Ten Hag give credence to Ronaldo to be a starter in the Premier League.

Next Man United will return to play against Omonia in the Europa League, in the previous match Man United even though they had difficulties
when facing Omonia. And also Ronaldo's performance was not so good when Man United against Omonia, but I'm sure after Ronaldo has
confidence again after scoring goals in the Premier League. Hopefully Ronaldo can score again when Man United face Omonia in the Europa League,
let alone Man United playing at home. So Man United should have won the game with a higher score.

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It can be said that Manchester United is currently still a little difficult, especially for their defense.
Against Omonia and conceding 2 clear goals, it's a little difficult to say that their performance is okay because this can still be said to be lacking in terms of defense.
But this result is still much better than they failed and in the second meeting later Manchester United should be able to maximize their players' advantage against Omonia.

For the next meeting, it is certain that each team will improve every weakness they have, including Manchester United. Because Manchester United is securing its position in Group E in order to qualify for the next phase, but for the next match with Omonia at Manchester United's home, I am more confident that Manchester United will win again later.

Manchester United's victory in the Premier League against Everton today could make their mentality increase a little.
This is something that is very good indeed with their current condition obviously a win must be obtained because this can be a trend keeper for them especially for their second meeting to be held at Old Trafford and obviously this is something that is very profitable for Ten Hag I think .

it is going to be a match to gain confidence or maybe lose it, depends on the result, but it's obvious that Man utd are going to win, and probably Real Sociedad too, so it very likely that Sociedad will be first and Man United will be 2nd by the end of the group stage phase.

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Quote from: bekti3 on October 09, 2022, 03:33:42 PM

Manchester United's victory in the Premier League against Everton today could make their mentality increase a little.
This is something that is very good indeed with their current condition obviously a win must be obtained because this can be a trend keeper for them especially for their second meeting to be held at Old Trafford and obviously this is something that is very profitable for Ten Hag I think .

Winning against Everton in the Premier League is something that is extraordinary and much needed by Manchester United, although only eight games have been played by Manchester United, but it is enough to make Manchester United to be in the top five of the standings.

In the Europa League Manchester United are back against Omonia which was beaten a few days ago and the next match which will take place at Old Trafford will make Manchester United more confident to continue to win matches and secure its position in second place in the group standings.

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Quote from: bekti3 on October 07, 2022, 05:42:31 PM

It can be said that Manchester United is currently still a little difficult, especially for their defense.
Against Omonia and conceding 2 clear goals, it's a little difficult to say that their performance is okay because this can still be said to be lacking in terms of defense.
But this result is still much better than they failed and in the second meeting later Manchester United should be able to maximize their players' advantage against Omonia.

For the next meeting, it is certain that each team will improve every weakness they have, including Manchester United. Because Manchester United is securing its position in Group E in order to qualify for the next phase, but for the next match with Omonia at Manchester United's home, I am more confident that Manchester United will win again later.

Manchester United's victory in the Premier League against Everton today could make their mentality increase a little.
This is something that is very good indeed with their current condition obviously a win must be obtained because this can be a trend keeper for them especially for their second meeting to be held at Old Trafford and obviously this is something that is very profitable for Ten Hag I think .

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We always expect good performances from players like Ronaldo. But the performance of a legendary player like him has been very poor this season. Ten Hag is not using Ronaldo correctly. Ronaldo is not in Ten Hag's match plan. Ronaldo is unable to adapt himself to the team. And I don't think he's getting any help from coach Ten Hag. And so we see Ronaldo's poor performance in every match.

Cristiano Ronaldo sits on the bench too much. So that his ability becomes dull and less honed. but if Cristiano Ronaldo was given more chances then I think he could be even better. the same as in yesterday's match, Cristiano Ronaldo looked less confident throughout the match. his face was full of stress. but after he managed to pass the ball to Martial and managed to score. only then can I see Cristiano Ronaldo become more active in his movements. but unfortunately time remaining in the match is only a little. I hope Ten Hag should be able to give equal opportunities to all players, including Cristiano Ronaldo.

I don't know why we keep complaining that Ronaldo does not see much match here in Europa thread. It's time we begin to be specific about this, it is correct that Ronaldo does not see playing time in the local league, but in the Europa League, he has seen very good number of matches and haven't done much.
Erik Ten Hag conducts training, it means that Ronaldo is not doing well in the training at least they have training and their best during every training will make a particular starting 11.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on October 08, 2022, 10:14:24 PM

Cristiano Ronaldo sits on the bench too much. So that his ability becomes dull and less honed. but if Cristiano Ronaldo was given more chances then I think he could be even better. the same as in yesterday's match, Cristiano Ronaldo looked less confident throughout the match. his face was full of stress. but after he managed to pass the ball to Martial and managed to score. only then can I see Cristiano Ronaldo become more active in his movements. but unfortunately time remaining in the match is only a little. I hope Ten Hag should be able to give equal opportunities to all players, including Cristiano Ronaldo.

Right now, most of the members here on this forum talking crap because they are not watching matches live and have posts which are not near fact if someone able to check please go ahead in last match against Omonia which played away Cristiano Ronaldo play for 90 minutes and helps Marcus Rashford for having his second goal which is not bad as now he is not good enough like he was few years back so can't play freely just because of this we are not having results like we have in past but still he is the useful player and can play for 2 or 3 years.

Even sometime coach give him full match, and sometimes he plays for one half and one hour he is doing good for this player and his own team he is not wasting any player which is the best strategy from current coach of Manchester United.

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Ludogorets have 4 points, and the victory over Roma is already in their asset - this is a big advantage in such a short group stage. Therefore, although now Roma still have chances that depend only on themselves, each game becomes decisive.
By the way, it will be funny if Roma is knocked out in the Conference League and win it again Grin

Group C on UEFA Europe League seem have just get one slot available only pass to next round as play off way after Real Betis won from AS Roma last match, now position standing awhile

Real Betis 9
Ludogorets 4
AS Roma 3
HJK 1

Seems left 3 match later become final match for all team except with Real Betis because have 9 points and have bigger chance can lead first standing position in this group, another team have the same chance although with HJK because 1 point get now still not close chance qualify to next round depending left 3 match later success won.

Mathematically it took 1 point anymore to Betis went to next stage but second position will be so tight because Ludogorets surprisingly can beat Roma and they can able to get 4 points and their schedules is more easy compared to Roma because on week 4 Ludogorets only fight against HJK and for Roma they will do repeat match against Betis so this match probably will determined Roma position that win result is mandatory for them because if they lose again from Betis then Ludogorets have good opportunity to finish at 2nd position and went to knockout phase along with Betis

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We always expect good performances from players like Ronaldo. But the performance of a legendary player like him has been very poor this season. Ten Hag is not using Ronaldo correctly. Ronaldo is not in Ten Hag's match plan. Ronaldo is unable to adapt himself to the team. And I don't think he's getting any help from coach Ten Hag. And so we see Ronaldo's poor performance in every match.

Cristiano Ronaldo sits on the bench too much. So that his ability becomes dull and less honed. but if Cristiano Ronaldo was given more chances then I think he could be even better. the same as in yesterday's match, Cristiano Ronaldo looked less confident throughout the match. his face was full of stress. but after he managed to pass the ball to Martial and managed to score. only then can I see Cristiano Ronaldo become more active in his movements. but unfortunately time remaining in the match is only a little. I hope Ten Hag should be able to give equal opportunities to all players, including Cristiano Ronaldo.

Christiano Ronaldo on the bench all the time is not a good one for Manchester United, if christiano Ronaldo have been giving more time Manchester United would have been doing better than this.

Ronaldo was the reason Manchester United got the number of goals they had last season

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 08, 2022, 09:16:52 AM

Some seasons, Ronaldo used to have a slow start. I remember even the media will be trolling him and he will be pained. But at a time he will turn around his performance and start scoring goals.
Why he hasn't picked till now is because he has not gotten enough playing time. If Erik gives him some more playing time, he will find his form and happiness again.

okay, let's assume we agree with the lack of playing time he has.
However, if he does not return to his original form after being given many opportunities to play, imagine what will happen to MU later.
So I don't think that's the problem. if we talk about the problem of him not getting enough playing time, he has had that opportunity. however, what happened was not what Erik Ten Hag expected.
At the start of the season, he was given the opportunity, but the results did not match expectations. as a professional player, he should be able to go out and find his form again.
IMO, most likely he doesn't fit into Ten Hag's coaching style, aside from other factors related to him.

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I don't understand why Manchester united are struggling so much. They have a really good squad and talented players. They have a manager who has done really good things at Ajax. I don't know what more needs to happen, Ronaldo is not even played properly. They exclude him when they could benefit from his experience and expertise. How can they be favorites when they can hardly beat a team like Omonia?

I think, the fault of poor performance is coming from the coach because their coach is benching some players that are good in the first half and used players that are good in the second half to play first half, which is the major challenge Manchester united are facing this season. If Manchester united coach can allow Ronaldo and other potential players that are good in the first half to play the first half, I think Manchester united will be favour in their remaining matches. Cristiano Ronaldo is willing to perform well in Manchester united but their coach is not giving him the opportunity to perform like the way he used to give other players.

I totally agree with you. Manchester United coach Ten Hag is still not friendly with the players. And his conflict with Ronaldo is quite visible. He doesn't want Ronaldo being used in Premier League matches. But Ronaldo is still a world-class player. His fitness is still excellent. If Ronaldo is brought on after 60 minutes, he is still capable of performing well. But of course, Ten Hag should help to strengthen the bonding of team players with Ronaldo. But Ten Hag is probably not helping Ronaldo. This is why we are not getting the expected performance from Ronaldo even in Europa League matches.

Looks like Erik ten Hag was quite annoyed when Ronaldo missed the pre-season game, and finally Erik ten Hag let Ronaldo spend more time
on the bench. Ronaldo is only given the opportunity to be a starter, when playing in the Europa League, of course it is very clear Ten Hag and
Ronaldo do not have a good relationship. Even though Ronaldo has always been able to maintain his physical fitness well, so Ten Hag should have
given Ronaldo more playing time. Because this season Ronaldo is more often on the bench, his performance seems to be declining right now.
If Ronaldo is not the first choice at Man United, Ronaldo should indeed move to another club in the January transfer market, or Ronaldo was forced
to wait for his contract to expire in 2023. It's a shame that great players like Ronaldo are not the first choice at Man United.

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I totally agree with you. Manchester United coach Ten Hag is still not friendly with the players. And his conflict with Ronaldo is quite visible. He doesn't want Ronaldo being used in Premier League matches. But Ronaldo is still a world-class player. His fitness is still excellent. If Ronaldo is brought on after 60 minutes, he is still capable of performing well. But of course, Ten Hag should help to strengthen the bonding of team players with Ronaldo. But Ten Hag is probably not helping Ronaldo. This is why we are not getting the expected performance from Ronaldo even in Europa League matches.

The reason he didn't play in the game against City also seemed quite contrived in my opinion which made me a little less fond of this because this kind of thing would make Ronaldo even more uncomfortable at Manchester United.
But it is true that Ten Hag may also have some other considerations because by looking at the current condition of Ronaldo, which in terms of performance is also clearly a bit lost, this could indeed be another thing for Ten Hag's consideration.

Ronaldo has had a difficult start to the season this year and Ronaldo has only played once in the Premier League, and he has also been off the bench more often in recent games.
and I don't think this is because of Ten Hag's consideration, maybe because Ten Hag doesn't really like or don't believe in Ronaldo which makes his current name not so popular.
and what we see Ronaldo will look good and can also score goals if he plays a lot of 90 minutes, and if Ronaldo continues to be treated like that I'm sure he will leave Old Trafford sooner.

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