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Quote from: Docnaster on October 11, 2022, 03:24:30 AM

Manchester United has improved their performance and the coach has learnt his lessons. The first match they had against Sociedad was not well planned for. Manchester United went with weak attack, midfield and defence. After the lose ETH had to readjust the Europa starting eleven to include some good EPL starters. Manchester United from henceforth may be able to win the rest of their fixtures in order not to fall into the dangers of people coming from champions league.

If you look at the points in the standings list, Manchester United has a great chance to qualify for the next round. Slowly but surely, Manchester United began to show the best performance in the UEFA Europa League and EPL, Ten Hag's role has begun to give a positive value to Manchester United's appearance.
Manchester United need to get two more wins to secure a ticket to the next round, if you look at the opponents they will face and are supported by their impressive performances at the moment. Manchester United have no trouble getting one ticket and the other will certainly belong to Real Sociedad.

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I know Roma is a strong club. With the help of Mourinho, they are performing very well now. However, they have lost two out of three matches and are now in a bit of trouble. And the important thing is that they lost against Real Betis at home. Now I don't think they will be able to beat Betis in the away match. But they can easily win against Ludogorets and HJK. Mourinho will definitely have to find the mistakes he made in the previous matches. And of course the defenders have to play better.

Roma latest performance is not reflected they are strong team in this competition and lose twice from 3 matches makes their position is not comfortable and next match against Betis will be determined their position on group C that if Roma lose they probably will failed to qualifying but if Roma can able to win then their chances is wide open because after this match they only will fight against Ludogorets and HJK but Betis is the team who can able to get 3 winning streak so far and beat them will be hard task for Roma and i personally doubt Roma will get 3 points from them and at home Betis has 100% winning rates during this season

But currently Roma are only one point different from Ludogorets which I think Roma's chance to qualify is still possible, because basically if Betis do win the group then Roma must be runners up because Ludogorets and HJK's quality is below them. If Roma still can't hold Betis to a draw or take Ludogorets' revenge to beat him, then it's clear that Roma will stop here. Can't imagine Mourinho is still so difficult to get the best form for Roma, while at first Mourinho was predicted to return Roma to their best form but so far this has not fully happened.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 11, 2022, 02:38:59 AM

I know Roma is a strong club. With the help of Mourinho, they are performing very well now. However, they have lost two out of three matches and are now in a bit of trouble. And the important thing is that they lost against Real Betis at home. Now I don't think they will be able to beat Betis in the away match. But they can easily win against Ludogorets and HJK. Mourinho will definitely have to find the mistakes he made in the previous matches. And of course the defenders have to play better.

Roma latest performance is not reflected they are strong team in this competition and lose twice from 3 matches makes their position is not comfortable and next match against Betis will be determined their position on group C that if Roma lose they probably will failed to qualifying but if Roma can able to win then their chances is wide open because after this match they only will fight against Ludogorets and HJK but Betis is the team who can able to get 3 winning streak so far and beat them will be hard task for Roma and i personally doubt Roma will get 3 points from them and at home Betis has 100% winning rates during this season

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 10, 2022, 06:16:26 AM

Roma's motivation to win the Europa League is questionable - there will be very strong competition there (especially after third places from the Champions League fall there). But after yesterday's match, where Roma, playing almost the entire game on the power play, hardly beat Lecce with a minimal advantage, I would say that Roma's results are the result of a weak game rather than weak motivation. For some reason they still can't show their best game.

Presumably, Mourinho will continue until the end of the season. But the Europa League seems to be in turmoil. He lost in their home field against the critical Real Betis. They are currently ranked 3rd in the group. They will qualify to the next stage, but the Europa League is a much heavier league compared to the Conference League. There are heavyweights in the Europa League. In addition, champions league 3rd place teams will come. My prediction, they will see at most quarter-finals.

Third place in the group is not a problem if your competitors are Ludogorets and Hick (with all due respect to these clubs) Grin

I don’t see the point in making predictions, because in the Europa League, even in the playoffs, motivation is not the same as in the Champions League. I strongly doubt that if Juventus and Barcelona fall into the Europa League it will automatically mean that they will meet in the final. Their main priority will be to fix things in the national championship and get into the Champions League next year. In such conditions, any underdog has a chance.

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I am planning to watch AEK-Fenerbahçe match this week in Europa League. I checked odds:
1.34 for Fenerbahçe
4.38 for Draw X
6.75 for AEK
Fenerbahçe plays very aggressively offensive football in home matches. They always focus on scoring goals. I think they will definitely score 1-2 goals in this match. But Fenerbahçe's defence line is not well. AEK on other other hand is very dangerous team considering they won against Dinamo Kyiv and lost at just last minute against Rennes. I expect many goals scored in this match by both sides.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on October 10, 2022, 06:38:52 PM

Manchester United performance are better of now, their next match against omonia it certain for them that they will the match. The strength Manchester United has now can even make them in winning the Europa League. Manchester United have strength to maintain better position.

The defeat from Sociedad in the previous match was the beginning of Manchester's revival in the European league, I think the positive trend is now starting to return to Manchester so it looks like the match against Omnia in the second leg will go well for Manchester, even though their won with a narrow score at home to Omnia but now I feels if manchester will be able to easily beat Omnia at Old Trafford especially after seeing a pretty convincing performance from manchester after destroying everton this week, a slick appearance and also the collaboration of ronaldo and antony in the match against everton should be able to be played again from the start by Ten Hag in the match fight Omnia later.

Manchester United's performance is still completely unstable. They are not able to play consistently well. After a humiliating defeat against Manchester City, they won against Everton by a narrow goal margin. But Ronaldo's goal was excellent. If Ronaldo is back in form then it will not be difficult to win against a team like Omnia. Omnia is not a strong team. If Ronaldo is able to play well, he will be able to bring victory to the United team. I expect Manchester United to dominate and win this match.

@Balik to be honest we can never really predict which Manchester United side will turn up, the one that won multiple matches in a row or the one that played so poorly against a inferior team. Lastly with Martial out injured for the Europa match it’ll be interesting to see who starts i.e. Ronaldo or Rashford, and if the latter starts in the striker position then Ronaldo’s confidence will take a huge hit and it’ll signal that he’ll be departing in January.

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I see it upside down, Manchester United are better now than they were at the start of the season.
I admit, the defeat against Manchester City is a very embarrassing thing from the Manchester derby. however, Ten Hag's work is starting to appear and is quite focused even though it has not been able to maximize it.
and I think it takes time to make Man United stronger, just like Arteta last season, at least he needs time to get his squad in the direction they want.
I am sure, in the second leg, Man United will play very optimally and win their matches, including playing Real Sosiedad in the match later.

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Manchester United performance are better of now, their next match against omonia it certain for them that they will the match. The strength Manchester United has now can even make them in winning the Europa League. Manchester United have strength to maintain better position.

The defeat from Sociedad in the previous match was the beginning of Manchester's revival in the European league, I think the positive trend is now starting to return to Manchester so it looks like the match against Omnia in the second leg will go well for Manchester, even though their won with a narrow score at home to Omnia but now I feels if manchester will be able to easily beat Omnia at Old Trafford especially after seeing a pretty convincing performance from manchester after destroying everton this week, a slick appearance and also the collaboration of ronaldo and antony in the match against everton should be able to be played again from the start by Ten Hag in the match fight Omnia later.

Manchester United's performance is still completely unstable. They are not able to play consistently well. After a humiliating defeat against Manchester City, they won against Everton by a narrow goal margin. But Ronaldo's goal was excellent. If Ronaldo is back in form then it will not be difficult to win against a team like Omnia. Omnia is not a strong team. If Ronaldo is able to play well, he will be able to bring victory to the United team. I expect Manchester United to dominate and win this match.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on October 10, 2022, 06:38:52 PM

Manchester United performance are better of now, their next match against omonia it certain for them that they will the match. The strength Manchester United has now can even make them in winning the Europa League. Manchester United have strength to maintain better position.

The defeat from Sociedad in the previous match was the beginning of Manchester's revival in the European league, I think the positive trend is now starting to return to Manchester so it looks like the match against Omnia in the second leg will go well for Manchester, even though their won with a narrow score at home to Omnia but now I feels if manchester will be able to easily beat Omnia at Old Trafford especially after seeing a pretty convincing performance from manchester after destroying everton this week, a slick appearance and also the collaboration of ronaldo and antony in the match against everton should be able to be played again from the start by Ten Hag in the match fight Omnia later.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 10, 2022, 06:43:48 PM

Manchester United are in a very comfortable group and they should be able to qualify for next stage easily. However I don't think that they can finish it as the leader. Because Real Sociedad have been performing better than them and they defeated Manchester United before also. Considering that these teams are going to play against each other in Spain, I don't think Manchester United can get three points.

It depends on how much Real Sociedad will be eager to win actually. If they stay solid they can keep Manchester United at a draw in the worst case. In case Manchester United finish the stage at the 2nd position they will face a team coming from the Champions League. Therefore we might even seem being eliminated early if they don't improve their effort against big teams in this tournament.

Manchester United has improved their performance and the coach has learnt his lessons. The first match they had against Sociedad was not well planned for. Manchester United went with weak attack, midfield and defence. After the lose ETH had to readjust the Europa starting eleven to include some good EPL starters. Manchester United from henceforth may be able to win the rest of their fixtures in order not to fall into the dangers of people coming from champions league.

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Roma are going to play an important game in the group. They are going to play an away game against Betis this time. They already lost the game in Italy by 2-1 which wasn't expected for me. I thought like Roma would win by a slight margin but they were devastated by the goal came in the last minutes.
I understand that their main target is to become successful in the Serie A and qualify for the Champions League. But they are normally among the biggest candidates for the Europa League title for now. If they lose this one as well and Ludogorets beat HJK then Roma's chance of moving on will be pretty low. Therefore I don't think Roma will lose this time but I can't be confident of a win.

Betis are the strongest team in this group and in fact, Betis were previously able to win while playing at the Stadio Olimpico. Betis is a team that has been at least consistent from the last few seasons in La Liga at least for the start of the season that can compete well in the top 5, which means at this moment Betis are indeed in their best form. Therefore, I personally still believe Betis will still win in this match, because Roma are still not very strong and cannot be fully expected for the desired result.

Real Betis are in very good form. They have been able to consistently perform well in La Liga. They have been able to continue the consistency in the Europa League as well. They won all three matches. They also managed to defeat Roma, one of the strongest teams in Group C, in an away match. They have performed very well. Real Betis will finish the first round at the top of Group C. Because the performance of Roma, one of the strongest teams in the group, is still not stable. My guess is that Real Betis will easily win at least 5 of the 6 matches in the group stage.

Betis performed well in this game. In La Liga, they are also doing consistently well, with the same number of points in the standings as Atletico Madrid. But Roma are not a bad club and this defeat with a minimum score does not mean anything, although it will be very difficult for Roma to win away in the return match. But I don't think anything is lost for Roma yet.

I know Roma is a strong club. With the help of Mourinho, they are performing very well now. However, they have lost two out of three matches and are now in a bit of trouble. And the important thing is that they lost against Real Betis at home. Now I don't think they will be able to beat Betis in the away match. But they can easily win against Ludogorets and HJK. Mourinho will definitely have to find the mistakes he made in the previous matches. And of course the defenders have to play better.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 10, 2022, 06:43:48 PM

Manchester United are in a very comfortable group and they should be able to qualify for next stage easily. However I don't think that they can finish it as the leader. Because Real Sociedad have been performing better than them and they defeated Manchester United before also. Considering that these teams are going to play against each other in Spain, I don't think Manchester United can get three points.
It depends on how much Real Sociedad will be eager to win actually. If they stay solid they can keep Manchester United at a draw in the worst case. In case Manchester United finish the stage at the 2nd position they will face a team coming from the Champions League. Therefore we might even seem being eliminated early if they don't improve their effort against big teams in this tournament.

Well, everything is not so clear here, because a lot depends on how big teams get into the Europa League from the Champions League and how big these teams are, that is, they are fine, since they could not get out of their group in the Champions League playoffs. Therefore, in any case, a lot depends on the draw and luck in it, as well as luck directly in the two-match confrontation. As for the next match with Real Sociedad, I would like to say the following: there is no match for the match and Manchester United are quite able to win the second leg in San Sebastian and seriously claim leadership in the group. Moreover, the match is still three weeks away, and this is quite a long time for the current Manchester United to gain confidence, and no matter how sad it sounds for the fans of the team, and to lose it again. But first you need to win at home against Omonia and Manchester United, while it seems to be more preferable chances to do this. Another question is how much ten Hag will be engaged in the rotation of the squad in this match because it can hit the strength of the team.

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United should qualify easily in this average group , they are just underperformed in the last few seasons despite having a huge transfer budget and splashing the money into big names , yet they are struggling get too many draws and losses, lack of achievements and slowly losing its place as one of the biggest club in the world.

this time i would say united might qualified to get through the next phase but will remain struggle to get any trophy especially this europa league trophy where they used to compete in the highest level competition , now even europa league would get them a hard times.

I appreciate what you have to say, but in this case I'm not talking about Manchester United's past, because I think it's something that doesn't need to be discussed now.
And for this season in the Europa League in particular, I don't see Manchester United depressed or struggling because Manchester United are still able to get a win and their next match at home to Omonia will also be a good opportunity for Manchester United to get full points.

It is true that it is better for us to focus on analyzing Man United's performance this season, because this season Man United has performed quite well.
Erik ten Hag slowly made Man United's performance improve. Including Man United's performance in the Europa League looks better, which when
the first game in the Europa League, Man United performed poorly by losing against Real Sociedad. But Man United managed to recover and improve
their performance, finally in the next two games Man United won positive results. But Man United's position is not safe by being in second place in Group E,
Man United have to make sure they win the remaining 3 games and I believe Man United can do that.

Next Man United will face Omonia again, before Man United won narrowly against Omonia. Therefore, in the second meeting with Omonia, Man United,
who plays at home, must be able to beat Omonia with a larger goal difference. Moreover, Ronaldo is rising his confidence, after scoring the winning
goal when Man United beat Everton. So Ronaldo, who usually become starter in the Europa League, will show his best performance and help Man United
beat Omonia in the Europa League.

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Manchester United are in a very comfortable group and they should be able to qualify for next stage easily. However I don't think that they can finish it as the leader. Because Real Sociedad have been performing better than them and they defeated Manchester United before also. Considering that these teams are going to play against each other in Spain, I don't think Manchester United can get three points.

It depends on how much Real Sociedad will be eager to win actually. If they stay solid they can keep Manchester United at a draw in the worst case. In case Manchester United finish the stage at the 2nd position they will face a team coming from the Champions League. Therefore we might even seem being eliminated early if they don't improve their effort against big teams in this tournament.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on October 10, 2022, 06:18:26 PM

Quote from: EdenHazard on October 09, 2022, 10:01:31 PM

United should qualify easily in this average group , they are just underperformed in the last few seasons despite having a huge transfer budget and splashing the money into big names , yet they are struggling get too many draws and losses, lack of achievements and slowly losing its place as one of the biggest club in the world.

this time i would say united might qualified to get through the next phase but will remain struggle to get any trophy especially this europa league trophy where they used to compete in the highest level competition , now even europa league would get them a hard times.

I appreciate what you have to say, but in this case I'm not talking about Manchester United's past, because I think it's something that doesn't need to be discussed now.
And for this season in the Europa League in particular, I don't see Manchester United depressed or struggling because Manchester United are still able to get a win and their next match at home to Omonia will also be a good opportunity for Manchester United to get full points.

i can agree with both of you on some points, one of @EdenHazard who said that they lost their place as one of the biggest clubs in the world, and i think it happened a little while ago, but i also agree with @Republikcoin.com because even though they are no one of the biggest teams in the world, they can still win a trophy like Europa League and probably finish in top 4 of the premier league.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on October 10, 2022, 06:18:26 PM

Quote from: EdenHazard on October 09, 2022, 10:01:31 PM

United should qualify easily in this average group , they are just underperformed in the last few seasons despite having a huge transfer budget and splashing the money into big names , yet they are struggling get too many draws and losses, lack of achievements and slowly losing its place as one of the biggest club in the world.

this time i would say united might qualified to get through the next phase but will remain struggle to get any trophy especially this europa league trophy where they used to compete in the highest level competition , now even europa league would get them a hard times.

I appreciate what you have to say, but in this case I'm not talking about Manchester United's past, because I think it's something that doesn't need to be discussed now.
And for this season in the Europa League in particular, I don't see Manchester United depressed or struggling because Manchester United are still able to get a win and their next match at home to Omonia will also be a good opportunity for Manchester United to get full points.

Manchester United performance are better of now, their next match against omonia it certain for them that they will the match. The strength Manchester United has now can even make them in winning the Europa League. Manchester United have strength to maintain better position.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 09, 2022, 10:01:31 PM

United should qualify easily in this average group , they are just underperformed in the last few seasons despite having a huge transfer budget and splashing the money into big names , yet they are struggling get too many draws and losses, lack of achievements and slowly losing its place as one of the biggest club in the world.

this time i would say united might qualified to get through the next phase but will remain struggle to get any trophy especially this europa league trophy where they used to compete in the highest level competition , now even europa league would get them a hard times.

I appreciate what you have to say, but in this case I'm not talking about Manchester United's past, because I think it's something that doesn't need to be discussed now.
And for this season in the Europa League in particular, I don't see Manchester United depressed or struggling because Manchester United are still able to get a win and their next match at home to Omonia will also be a good opportunity for Manchester United to get full points.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2022, 09:52:26 PM

Roma are going to play an important game in the group. They are going to play an away game against Betis this time. They already lost the game in Italy by 2-1 which wasn't expected for me. I thought like Roma would win by a slight margin but they were devastated by the goal came in the last minutes.

I understand that their main target is to become successful in the Serie A and qualify for the Champions League. But they are normally among the biggest candidates for the Europa League title for now. If they lose this one as well and Ludogorets beat HJK then Roma's chance of moving on will be pretty low. Therefore I don't think Roma will lose this time but I can't be confident of a win.

Roma's motivation to win the Europa League is questionable - there will be very strong competition there (especially after third places from the Champions League fall there). But after yesterday's match, where Roma, playing almost the entire game on the power play, hardly beat Lecce with a minimal advantage, I would say that Roma's results are the result of a weak game rather than weak motivation. For some reason they still can't show their best game.

Presumably, Mourinho will continue until the end of the season. But the Europa League seems to be in turmoil. He lost in their home field against the critical Real Betis. They are currently ranked 3rd in the group. They will qualify to the next stage, but the Europa League is a much heavier league compared to the Conference League. There are heavyweights in the Europa League. In addition, champions league 3rd place teams will come. My prediction, they will see at most quarter-finals.

Quote from: emrecemsan on October 10, 2022, 12:34:31 PM

Maybe it is difficult to see Ronaldo playing like in the old times anymore. However this shouldn't mean that Manchester United don't need him at all now. He just still doesn't get the chances he needs in the starting eleven. By putting him in the match in only second halves Erik ten Hag can't expect too much from him. I know that he is getting chances in the Europa League but it isn't the same when it comes to the Premier League. Erik ten Hag is pretending like Ronaldo is only a substitute player.

However this is a disrespect to him I believe. As Rashford can play behind Ronaldo also, the manager should give Ronaldo chances in the centre-forward position in EPL matches as well. I understood that he wanted to give the chance to Martial as he scored two goals in their previous match. But for example next time Ronaldo should be in his place. In this way Ronaldo might be able to have a good form again.

Even I seriously felt the scream Ronaldo made after the position he missed. Ronaldo was good in general, but sometimes it doesn't really happen when it doesn't. I attribute this situation to continuity. Since the beginning of the season, Ronaldo has not started in the starting line up 2 times in a row. Some weeks he hasn't played at all. It really hurts us to see Ronaldo in the Europa League. He needs to escape from Manu immediately, he needs to come to the champions league at half season.

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Maybe it is difficult to see Ronaldo playing like in the old times anymore. However this shouldn't mean that Manchester United don't need him at all now. He just still doesn't get the chances he needs in the starting eleven. By putting him in the match in only second halves Erik ten Hag can't expect too much from him. I know that he is getting chances in the Europa League but it isn't the same when it comes to the Premier League. Erik ten Hag is pretending like Ronaldo is only a substitute player.

However this is a disrespect to him I believe. As Rashford can play behind Ronaldo also, the manager should give Ronaldo chances in the centre-forward position in EPL matches as well. I understood that he wanted to give the chance to Martial as he scored two goals in their previous match. But for example next time Ronaldo should be in his place. In this way Ronaldo might be able to have a good form again.

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Roma are going to play an important game in the group. They are going to play an away game against Betis this time. They already lost the game in Italy by 2-1 which wasn't expected for me. I thought like Roma would win by a slight margin but they were devastated by the goal came in the last minutes.

I understand that their main target is to become successful in the Serie A and qualify for the Champions League. But they are normally among the biggest candidates for the Europa League title for now. If they lose this one as well and Ludogorets beat HJK then Roma's chance of moving on will be pretty low. Therefore I don't think Roma will lose this time but I can't be confident of a win.

Betis are the strongest team in this group and in fact, Betis were previously able to win while playing at the Stadio Olimpico. Betis is a team that has been at least consistent from the last few seasons in La Liga at least for the start of the season that can compete well in the top 5, which means at this moment Betis are indeed in their best form. Therefore, I personally still believe Betis will still win in this match, because Roma are still not very strong and cannot be fully expected for the desired result.

Real Betis are in very good form. They have been able to consistently perform well in La Liga. They have been able to continue the consistency in the Europa League as well. They won all three matches. They also managed to defeat Roma, one of the strongest teams in Group C, in an away match. They have performed very well. Real Betis will finish the first round at the top of Group C. Because the performance of Roma, one of the strongest teams in the group, is still not stable. My guess is that Real Betis will easily win at least 5 of the 6 matches in the group stage.

Betis performed well in this game. In La Liga, they are also doing consistently well, with the same number of points in the standings as Atletico Madrid. But Roma are not a bad club and this defeat with a minimum score does not mean anything, although it will be very difficult for Roma to win away in the return match. But I don't think anything is lost for Roma yet.

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