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But today it was visible that Liverpool can still be beaten although it was Arsenal and I don't see AC Milan being on the same level with Arsenal at the moment, but who knows. The fact that AC Milan won the Champions League in the past has nothing to do with their chances to win the Europa League this season. They did turn around an important game against Frosinone and they keep staying close to the top two Inter and Juventus in Serie A. I think there is absolutely no reason to underestimate them. Nevertheless, I agree that Liverpool is still the favorite here.
The defeat they just got to Arsenal will not affect Liverpool in the Europa League, this competition is very different from the EPL, Liverpool will use all their strength to win this championship. Liverpool is still the top team in this competition based on its performance. I am not too optimistic about Milan's chances, their past success in winning the UCL cannot be used as a benchmark for the present, this season Milan defense conceded too easily, they have conceded seven goals in their last four matches in Serie A.
Milan must increase their strength in the defensive area to prevent their goal from being broken into by the opposing team. The positive results achieved in several matches in Serie A need to be maintained, the front line also needs to be sharpened more sharply to get more goals to make it easier for them to win.
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AS Roma have become one of the inconsistent club in Seria A and this is a big dissapointement on the faces of the players and their supporters. José Mourinho did try his best but it wasn't good enough, he have to go because sticking to a good result do take time. Daniele De Rossi gain high trust from the team's board to deliver a perfect job during his regime. AS Roma declined in performance and game stats refused because the hands handling the club fall short of expectations and steadily recorded poor results for the club.
Recently with this new coach, roma has managed to be able to win few games but then it still doesn't give me a good trust enough in their form and ability this season as I don't trust how well they can perform in the Europa if they will be able to get pass the round of sixteen but then let's still hope for the best from them.

I don't even blame the present or past coach for whatever it is that Roma may seem to be going through because both of them in their various capacity and did the best they could with the team although Rossi still have some more good time on his sides to prove if he was a better replacement for Roma's former coach so it's very likely Roma may do better with Rossi because they have in recent times done so well regardless and it's been a new coach that's in charge of the team.
Well yes, they have achieved certain results, I don't blame them, from what I see these things are what really happened because Mou lacked something else, but it is what I see, it is not what the team as such sees and does lack, I see that things when they try to do better, because they always focus on the things they can achieve, now Roa is doing a good job, I don't know, maybe things can look good for Roma now, but It remains to be seen how they continue to perform well, actually this season I didn't pay much attention to what they did in Roma, I have only paid attention to Juve because of the situation they have taken, so I haven't seen much of the Europa League , but if they really have to win this season, because last time when Sevilla beat them I didn't see them well, in fact I put a lot of doubt on that match.

Things are usually very important when the competitions are of a high level, for me this year not only Roma has shone, I am sure that if they had not given such an ugly and enormous ban to Juve they would be in a good place in Europe League.

Although to be honest with what they have shown at Juve, not only should they be in a competition like this, with the level that Juve have now they should be playing in the UCL, but due to the great things that have been imposed on them Well, they haven't done much, this is what I say, it must be done and allocated well so that things can happen well and for the better. I am one of those who think that a team like Juve should be doing well right now, but I don't know how many interests there are and conflicts against this team, I only know that now I don't see the Europa League as interesting as last season, but I didn't like that final, I think the winner should have been Roma, and what happened is very debatable. because obviously for the Mou there is peladio so it is not free, at this point he is not going to fight for something that he did not see or that seems unfair to him.
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February 04, 2024, 05:00:26 PM
AS Roma have become one of the inconsistent club in Seria A and this is a big dissapointement on the faces of the players and their supporters. José Mourinho did try his best but it wasn't good enough, he have to go because sticking to a good result do take time. Daniele De Rossi gain high trust from the team's board to deliver a perfect job during his regime. AS Roma declined in performance and game stats refused because the hands handling the club fall short of expectations and steadily recorded poor results for the club.
Recently with this new coach, roma has managed to be able to win few games but then it still doesn't give me a good trust enough in their form and ability this season as I don't trust how well they can perform in the Europa if they will be able to get pass the round of sixteen but then let's still hope for the best from them.

I don't even blame the present or past coach for whatever it is that Roma may seem to be going through because both of them in their various capacity and did the best they could with the team although Rossi still have some more good time on his sides to prove if he was a better replacement for Roma's former coach so it's very likely Roma may do better with Rossi because they have in recent times done so well regardless and it's been a new coach that's in charge of the team.
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February 04, 2024, 04:47:05 PM
But today it was visible that Liverpool can still be beaten although it was Arsenal and I don't see AC Milan being on the same level with Arsenal at the moment, but who knows. The fact that AC Milan won the Champions League in the past has nothing to do with their chances to win the Europa League this season. They did turn around an important game against Frosinone and they keep staying close to the top two Inter and Juventus in Serie A. I think there is absolutely no reason to underestimate them. Nevertheless, I agree that Liverpool is still the favorite here.

If Liverpool's points are equal to Arsenal, let alone Manchester City. and the match continued until it was nearing the end of the competition, Liverpool's focus was automatically focused on the Domestic League rather than the trophy in this competition. so, in my opinion, competition in this competition is still wide open for the teams that enter the round of 16. Just like Leverkusen, the narrow points difference with Bayern Munich means Alonso will prioritize the Bundeliga. But at least, these two teams have a big chance of advancing to the final round of the Europa League. especially if his position is safe in the Domestic League.

Well, before we talk further about AC Milan in this competition. at least, Stepano Pioli's team must first prove they are capable of beating Rennes in the playoffs, both in the first and second legs. If they are able to do this, then we can speculate further regarding this team from the Italian League. so far, nothing is certain. we only speak based on assumptions and speculation. in fact, some even refer to statistics. however, what is unique about football is that the result of the match will be determined when this competition is held. so, let's just join in. soon this competition will be held.
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February 04, 2024, 04:33:44 PM

How many years roma played various competitions but it was always ended without trophy? Jose mourinho was almost giving roma two european competitions trophy in a row if roma was not lost against sevilla. It's very disappointed caused by roma was reaching final last season. The club was able performing even better since mourinho was coming there.
This time is very different caused by roma has no the professor to help club win the game with his strategy. That was the most stupid decision ever made by roma. The club kick mourinho out from club and then get amateur coach to replace him in the roma. What a disappointment for all of fans.

In term of achievement and i must say that if rossi was nothing compared to the jose mourinho. How many UCLs everton by him. I never ever heard his name in the professional football. Calling him as a legend is quite strange caused by the only roma fans may be knowing him so well but this is not for all of fans.
Roma needs to change its gameplay and the coach has not yet brought significant impact to the club. Im only watching how far roma will able to compete in europa league this season. Im not underestimate rossi but the statistic told us about the fact if he was not that good as a coach.
Well Roma hasn’t achieved much but when Jose came, in his first season he gave them an European title and in his second he took them to another final where he still protest that he was robbed. Well this is how Jose has improved the face of the club and yet the board went on with their decision. This decision is one that will haunt them forever because even after letting go of Jose, they still didn’t go to hire a coach that’ll be able to fit in his shoes rather they hired one who’s an amateur and lacks quality experience. Roma is in the UEL and they’ll be facing a strong Feynoord side, yea and the experience of a quality coach is important.

 Yes De Rossi might not be able to achieve success with this team especially as Roma aren’t willing to release funds for him to get his signings. Yes getting his own signings to fill his philosophy would be kind of crucial but when the club isn’t willing then I think you’ve got to manage available resources and that’ll be a hard way to go for an amateur coach.  
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February 04, 2024, 03:56:14 PM
de rossi is only a temporary coach. train only until the end of the season. but if his performance is good he could get a contract extension. and in series A it's only against weak teams like verona and salernitana so it can't be said to be successful and successful. if in the europa league you will meet the big teams if you get to the top party there are Liverpool and leverkusen who really shine this season with xabi alonso.
AS Roma have become one of the inconsistent club in Seria A and this is a big dissapointement on the faces of the players and their supporters. José Mourinho did try his best but it wasn't good enough, he have to go because sticking to a good result do take time. Daniele De Rossi gain high trust from the team's board to deliver a perfect job during his regime. AS Roma declined in performance and game stats refused because the hands handling the club fall short of expectations and steadily recorded poor results for the club.

After all, before the arrival of Mourinho also the fact is AS Roma always failed to penetrate the top zone of the Serie A standings but yes, when Mourinho became the head coach of AS Roma and in that period at least Mourinho managed to make AS Roma to penetrate the European zone . Not only that, although AS Roma was still unstable in Serie A during Mourinho's period but still, the fact Mourinho managed to make AS Roma get good results on the European stage.

Therefore, at least at this moment it will still be a big gamble for AS Roma in recruiting De Rossi because yes, it is clear that De Rossi does not have good experience as a head coach. But here at AS Roma, at least De Rossi is faced with a difficult problem because De Rossi is expected to restore AS Roma's performance in Serie A and is also expected to get good results in the Europa League and of course, it is a difficult mission.
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February 04, 2024, 03:42:26 PM
Even if these teams are playing more competitions than AC Milan and Roma, I think that none of the teams would be happy to face Liverpool or Leverkusen given how they are currently performing. Of course the risk to get injuries is higher when the players have to play at their limit in more games, but these players are used to doing that. Liverpool is used to doing that anyway for years now and Leverkusen has a decent squad in terms of their depth. They can rotate and they have shown this now when the Africa Cup of Nations is going on and they had to substitute several players at once. Yet their results are great.
Indeed AC Milan is most experienced team who more winning UEFA Champion League I doubt for winning the Europe League, my favorable teams list still have Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool on the top candidate teams become the winner. African Nation Cup will end few days later and Europe League 16 of round still plays for few weeks later, I think not much problem for Bayern Leverkusen and Liverpool have qualified to 16 round waiting for the drawing match schedule after playoff round will play two weeks later.

Current performance in domestic league, Bayern Leverkusen still defend with the unbeaten match and I think Xabi Alonso have more promising performance in Europe League to be strong candidate team become the winner, wish both them between Leverkusen and Liverpool not face early round.

But today it was visible that Liverpool can still be beaten although it was Arsenal and I don't see AC Milan being on the same level with Arsenal at the moment, but who knows. The fact that AC Milan won the Champions League in the past has nothing to do with their chances to win the Europa League this season. They did turn around an important game against Frosinone and they keep staying close to the top two Inter and Juventus in Serie A. I think there is absolutely no reason to underestimate them. Nevertheless, I agree that Liverpool is still the favorite here.
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February 04, 2024, 03:29:50 PM
de rossi is only a temporary coach. train only until the end of the season. but if his performance is good he could get a contract extension. and in series A it's only against weak teams like verona and salernitana so it can't be said to be successful and successful. if in the europa league you will meet the big teams if you get to the top party there are Liverpool and leverkusen who really shine this season with xabi alonso.
AS Roma have become one of the inconsistent club in Seria A and this is a big dissapointement on the faces of the players and their supporters. José Mourinho did try his best but it wasn't good enough, he have to go because sticking to a good result do take time. Daniele De Rossi gain high trust from the team's board to deliver a perfect job during his regime. AS Roma declined in performance and game stats refused because the hands handling the club fall short of expectations and steadily recorded poor results for the club.
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February 04, 2024, 03:11:25 PM

AC Milan were unlucky to find themselves in the group F of the UEFA Champions League competition which was undoubtedly the most difficult group in the UEFA Champions League this season. They also did their best to make sure they progress from the group to the knockout stages of the competition but their best wasn't just enough and that's why they were relegated to the UEFA Europa League competition.
The fact that they failed to qualify from their group to play in the knockout stages of UCL doesn't mean that they're not a serious contender to win the Europa League this season. They might not win it at the end of the season but I'm optimistic that that they'll at least reach the semi final of the competition

You could see it in different ways when a club has to face a tough group stage because they get immediate feedback as to whether they are on a good enough level to compete with the best. Sometimes it's kind of deceiving when a club dominates the group stage, but in truth there were only inferior opponents and there is really no good feedback whether they are ready to play against the other favorites or not.

But in this case it still doesn't mean that Dortmund is ready to play against the best only because they won that group. I think the level was much lower than most people thought it would be.

That's why I am unsure about AC Milan and how they will do in the Europa League.
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February 04, 2024, 01:49:57 PM
The only problem Mourinho can be facing is the same problem surely every old coach had in his carreer, and is the change of generations, now the young players are diferent build compared with the olders ones, so maybe his good aproach are not working so efective right now.

But for me remains the special one.
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After Mourinho's dismissal from As Roma, I don't have much hope for As Roma in the European League competition. A lot of experience was gained after the coach was fired in the middle of the season, but failed to advance to the next match. If you still remember last season that happened to Bayer Munich, before the dismissal of Coach Nagelsmann, Bayern Munich was still the champion in the UCL league, but after being fired and replaced by Tuchel, Bayern Munich immediately lost to Man City in the quarter-finals.

So as a team that has a new coach, of course De Rossi needs to adjust its strategy, mentality and readiness. So for me, even though last season As Roma managed to advance to the final, this season with a new coach I'm not sure As Roma will make a surprise.
The dismissal of the coach will leave new problems for the team, the players will have to adapt again to the strategy used by the new coach and there will be a change in position for certain players because they are deemed not to suit the strategy used by the coach. The Roma squad is currently adjusting to the style used by De Rossi, the wins achieved in the two matches with De Rossi do not prove anything because Salernitana and Verona are weak teams in Serie A.

Roma hopes of winning the Europa League are very slim, currently Roma quality is still below Liverpool and Leverkusen. Roma must build a stronger squad if they want to win trophies outside domestic competitions because competition in European competitions is fiercer than in Serie A.
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February 04, 2024, 12:11:37 PM
So, this is the real problem with AS Roma and its new coach De Rossi. And everyone certainly agrees that De Rossi is very minimal in leading a team to compete in big competitions such as the European League. I'm really getting curious now. De Rossi can maintain Roma's performance in Serie A. But will he also be able to maintain AS Roma's performance when they are in a big competition? IN the European league, apart from good tactics, a strong mentality and motivation must be built by the coaches and players. Mourinho has a lot of experience but we also cannot underestimate De Rossi. Because it is possible that even though De Rossi has minimal experience, he could surprise everyone and make good history in his career.
After Mourinho's dismissal from As Roma, I don't have much hope for As Roma in the European League competition. A lot of experience was gained after the coach was fired in the middle of the season, but failed to advance to the next match. If you still remember last season that happened to Bayer Munich, before the dismissal of Coach Nagelsmann, Bayern Munich was still the champion in the UCL league, but after being fired and replaced by Tuchel, Bayern Munich immediately lost to Man City in the quarter-finals.

So as a team that has a new coach, of course De Rossi needs to adjust its strategy, mentality and readiness. So for me, even though last season As Roma managed to advance to the final, this season with a new coach I'm not sure As Roma will make a surprise.
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February 04, 2024, 12:02:03 PM

However, in fact Jose Mourinho has had quite a big impact on the team when competing on the European stage and I cannot deny that Jose Mourinho has the advantage of motivating his team to be able to play much better on the European stage, so what is being discussed now? probably true.
Roma after Jose Mourinho is no longer favored in the Europa League is a natural thing in my opinion.
No one is saying that De Rossi is better or worse than Jose, but De Rossi, who has minimal experience, will not be able to make more ha in the European League stage.

Sometimes some coaches are considered inexperienced but are able to bring the team to advance in the European league and even become champions. An example is De Mateo with Chelsea who won the champions league. I think di matteo was not a famous coach at that time because he was appointed as coach after the dismissal of Andre Villas Boas. But that is very rare and will not be repeated by any coach like him. So I can't say De Rossi will be able to repeat what Di Matteo did. But at least he has provided positive results for Roma in their last two matches.
The fact is that now many coaches who are considered to not have much experience can bring a breath of fresh air to the clubs they manage. One of the coaches is the coach you mentioned, now there is also a new name that has emerged which has become a hot topic of conversation in the Bundesliga, that is Xabi Alonso with Leverkusen. In terms of experience, Xabi is a relatively new coach and does not have as much experience as Jose, Pep, Klopp and so on. But now he has managed to steal attention, and he has even been linked with several big clubs who might be his next port. Previously there was also the name Xavi with Barcelona, although now he is declining again.
In my opinion, we should not underestimate coaches who are said to have minimal experience, because after all they also have the opportunity to give their best to the clubs they work for, including De Rossi.
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February 04, 2024, 11:48:16 AM

So, this is the real problem with AS Roma and its new coach De Rossi. And everyone certainly agrees that De Rossi is very minimal in leading a team to compete in big competitions such as the European League. I'm really getting curious now. De Rossi can maintain Roma's performance in Serie A. But will he also be able to maintain AS Roma's performance when they are in a big competition? IN the European league, apart from good tactics, a strong mentality and motivation must be built by the coaches and players. Mourinho has a lot of experience but we also cannot underestimate De Rossi. Because it is possible that even though De Rossi has minimal experience, he could surprise everyone and make good history in his career.

de rossi is only a temporary coach. train only until the end of the season. but if his performance is good he could get a contract extension. and in series A it's only against weak teams like verona and salernitana so it can't be said to be successful and successful. if in the europa league you will meet the big teams if you get to the top party there are Liverpool and leverkusen who really shine this season with xabi alonso.

There is still a chance for him to receive a new contract as long as he will be showing good performance with as roma. Im concerning about the performance from roma in serie a and europa league. So far so good but the club is still remain unproven against the strong club in the league. Roma needs to prove it can win against the big club.
This is another disaster for roma caused by the team was not able playing consistently in the past. Even though rossi was just having short term contract but he is now roma's head coach and he was resposible with any result achieved by roma in any games.

This is also the main reason people keep concerning him coz he is head coach. People will not even care about that if he was no a head coach of roma. We have mourinho last season which has so many experience in football but the club replaced him with unproven coach like him.
That is very strange to see that and it's not yet clear what's the reason for the club to change him with mediocre coach like that. I would prefer to see mourinho to stay rather than see rossi come to the club as a head coach. This is the fact and mostly of fans were also thinking the same like me.
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February 04, 2024, 11:00:52 AM
Milan were really below my expectation level in the Champions League group stage. I understand their group was one of the toughest groups. But still they barely ended up with the Europa League thanks to their win over Newcastle. Now I will be curious about their Europa League performance. Because they are shown among the favourites by bookmakers.

However their consistent problems on defense must be worrying for them. They just concede many more goals than an acceptable level. I assume they would still be able to get past Rennes in the current round. But if they face a tougher team with strong attackers they would be in serious trouble.  Sad

I think in the Champions League group that consisted of Dortmund, PSG, Milan and Newcastle, you could have rolled the dice to determine who is going to advance to the next round. It was confusing because Dortmund won games that they shouldn't have won, then Newcastle beat PSG at home 4-1, but then they didn't qualify for the next round because AC Milan in turn managed to beat them and secured the third position in the group. I don't know whether that was what I expected. After a few games it seemed to be more of a lottery than two teams that truly deserved to go to the next round.

It is hard to come up with an opinion on how they will play in the Europa League from now on. Normally I would describe them as one of the favorites, but when I see how Liverpool and Leverkusen are doing, I doubt that AC Milan could beat them unless they are having a bad day.
AC Milan were unlucky to find themselves in the group F of the UEFA Champions League competition which was undoubtedly the most difficult group in the UEFA Champions League this season. They also did their best to make sure they progress from the group to the knockout stages of the competition but their best wasn't just enough and that's why they were relegated to the UEFA Europa League competition.
The fact that they failed to qualify from their group to play in the knockout stages of UCL doesn't mean that they're not a serious contender to win the Europa League this season. They might not win it at the end of the season but I'm optimistic that that they'll at least reach the semi final of the competition
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February 04, 2024, 10:54:27 AM

However, in fact Jose Mourinho has had quite a big impact on the team when competing on the European stage and I cannot deny that Jose Mourinho has the advantage of motivating his team to be able to play much better on the European stage, so what is being discussed now? probably true.
Roma after Jose Mourinho is no longer favored in the Europa League is a natural thing in my opinion.
No one is saying that De Rossi is better or worse than Jose, but De Rossi, who has minimal experience, will not be able to make more ha in the European League stage.

Sometimes some coaches are considered inexperienced but are able to bring the team to advance in the European league and even become champions. An example is De Mateo with Chelsea who won the champions league. I think di matteo was not a famous coach at that time because he was appointed as coach after the dismissal of Andre Villas Boas. But that is very rare and will not be repeated by any coach like him. So I can't say De Rossi will be able to repeat what Di Matteo did. But at least he has provided positive results for Roma in their last two matches.
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February 04, 2024, 09:55:53 AM
Milan were really below my expectation level in the Champions League group stage. I understand their group was one of the toughest groups. But still they barely ended up with the Europa League thanks to their win over Newcastle. Now I will be curious about their Europa League performance. Because they are shown among the favourites by bookmakers.

However their consistent problems on defense must be worrying for them. They just concede many more goals than an acceptable level. I assume they would still be able to get past Rennes in the current round. But if they face a tougher team with strong attackers they would be in serious trouble.  Sad

I think in the Champions League group that consisted of Dortmund, PSG, Milan and Newcastle, you could have rolled the dice to determine who is going to advance to the next round. It was confusing because Dortmund won games that they shouldn't have won, then Newcastle beat PSG at home 4-1, but then they didn't qualify for the next round because AC Milan in turn managed to beat them and secured the third position in the group. I don't know whether that was what I expected. After a few games it seemed to be more of a lottery than two teams that truly deserved to go to the next round.

It is hard to come up with an opinion on how they will play in the Europa League from now on. Normally I would describe them as one of the favorites, but when I see how Liverpool and Leverkusen are doing, I doubt that AC Milan could beat them unless they are having a bad day.
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February 04, 2024, 09:16:34 AM
Milan were really below my expectation level in the Champions League group stage. I understand their group was one of the toughest groups. But still they barely ended up with the Europa League thanks to their win over Newcastle. Now I will be curious about their Europa League performance. Because they are shown among the favourites by bookmakers.

However their consistent problems on defense must be worrying for them. They just concede many more goals than an acceptable level. I assume they would still be able to get past Rennes in the current round. But if they face a tougher team with strong attackers they would be in serious trouble.  Sad
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February 04, 2024, 09:12:38 AM
Mourinho's departure from Roma leaves a gap that will be hard to fill, especially in Europe. His record speaks loudly, and his almost victories in two consecutive European competitions set a high bar. De Rossi's involvement makes me wary. De Rossi's experience is nothing compared to Mourinho's, as you said. Sure, De Rossi knows Roma well, but understanding a club and winning in Europe are different. Im not dismissing him, but his stats and inexperience are against him. Roma's European voyage this season will be difficult, but I hope for the best

There's nothing difficult to fill up, the right manager who knows whatever he wants would definitely turn them into monsters and Italian Scudetto warriors.
In between, Jose Mourinho has been a poor coach for As Roma this particular season, they got to qualify for this round but how they play in the domestic league Competitions cannot lie.
It's notba time to start lamenting, rather give Rossi the support he deserves so he can do the very best for his squad already!

And even if fails, failure is actually one of the best way to see a club learning quick and fast. De Rossi is not too small to win the Europa League Competition.
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February 04, 2024, 08:09:56 AM
Absolutely not! What difference would it make for Roma or for any of their opponents whether Mourinho is sitting on the bench or not? Mourinho can't enter the pitch and influence the game, he can only give some of his instructions, but that doesn't make a team the favorite.

I understand the decision that Roma has made here. They wanted some fresh input, some new impulses and a new face for a new start. Whether it will be more successful with De Rossi than with Mourinho, I think only time will tell. But I can see why they made the decision and I disagree that Roma would have been any stronger in the Europa League with Mourinho.
However, in fact Jose Mourinho has had quite a big impact on the team when competing on the European stage and I cannot deny that Jose Mourinho has the advantage of motivating his team to be able to play much better on the European stage, so what is being discussed now? probably true.
Roma after Jose Mourinho is no longer favored in the Europa League is a natural thing in my opinion.
No one is saying that De Rossi is better or worse than Jose, but De Rossi, who has minimal experience, will not be able to make more ha in the European League stage.
Mourinho's departure from Roma leaves a gap that will be hard to fill, especially in Europe. His record speaks loudly, and his almost victories in two consecutive European competitions set a high bar. De Rossi's involvement makes me wary. De Rossi's experience is nothing compared to Mourinho's, as you said. Sure, De Rossi knows Roma well, but understanding a club and winning in Europe are different. Im not dismissing him, but his stats and inexperience are against him. Roma's European voyage this season will be difficult, but I hope for the best
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