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January 02, 2024, 02:16:21 AM
Klopp doesn't have any luxury like caring much less about the Europa League I'm afraid. Liverpool's last season performance was really poor. Because they couldn't even finish the Premier League in top 4. Now Klopp is trying his best for the team to finish this season with good achievements. They are a title contender in the Premier League as they are already the leader there.
This season Liverpool is different from last season, they managed to recover. And now they are even stronger at the top of the EPL standings. Even though they were always underestimated by talented players who didn't want to come to Liverpool and always had other clubs instead of accepting Liverpool's offers, and were always less competitive than other clubs, this wasn't a problem because Klopp started rotating players frequently. , entrusting several young players combined with senior players, for the sake of depth in the Liverpool squad. Apart from that, Liverpool does have an extraordinary fighting spirit.

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As for the Europa League bookies already show them the closest team to the title. Klopp made rotations in the group stage maybe but I don't expect this much to happen as of now. Winning the Europa League title is also important for Klopp to increase his credit more.  Smiley
Not only bookies, even European League observers say that the one with the greatest chance of winning the European League title this season is Liverpool, even though there are other teams such as Bayern Leverkusen and AC Milan. However, with Liverpool's fighting spirit, it looks like they deserve to be the favorites.
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January 02, 2024, 01:56:39 AM
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You may be right but for me I think Liverpool has upper chance of winning the Europa League because there performance on this Europa is very impressive and encouraging, however with the kind of winning record they have on this Europa is actually a commendable one and also the interesting thing about Liverpool is that they are moving quite on both the premier League do to there consistent impressive performance they have been putting on the both leagues but with the current competition on  the premier League trophy I doubt if Liverpool will be able to win it because there are still other clubs that are more better than them in performance, so they should focus more on there Europa League were they have higher chance of winning.
It cannot be denied that all the positive comments on Liverpool are based on their impressive performances in the Europa League and Premier League. Liverpool is one of the favorites to win the race for the Europa League title this season, I hope Liverpool is not burdened by its status which is considered the team with the most potential in this competition. Liverpool must appear consistent and maintain their performance in order to achieve a beautiful final goal, currently they are the team with the most chance of winning the Europa League and Premier League trophies.
Klopp was still doing some mistakes by using the secondary squads to play in the europa league which in result liverpool was not able to get the perfect result but it's still safe caused by liverpool was still sitting at the first position and it shall not go through the playoff against the teams from UCl.It adds more chance for liverpool to get the europa league trophy this season. It appears that if liverpool is very strong right now. It's really amazing to see that how liverpool becomes even more consistent after so many complaints that were coming since the early of season.
It means if klopp was alwasy hearing liverpudlians about which position that was still weak enough. Klopp can make liverpool to break manchester city's record if that keeps to play perfectly like this time.

No doubt people have been starting to pick the best candidate to win the EPL and europa league. Majority of footballers agreed that if liverpool will become the most potential club to win two trophies UCL and europa league.
Let's wait for the further development from liverpool and im sure something big will be coming soon. I expect liverpool to take over EPL from manchester city after pep's club was winning EPL torphy three times in a row.
The only main concern if liverpool shall not bottle it at the end of season.
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January 02, 2024, 01:11:39 AM
Klopp doesn't have any luxury like caring much less about the Europa League I'm afraid. Liverpool's last season performance was really poor. Because they couldn't even finish the Premier League in top 4. Now Klopp is trying his best for the team to finish this season with good achievements. They are a title contender in the Premier League as they are already the leader there.

As for the Europa League bookies already show them the closest team to the title. Klopp made rotations in the group stage maybe but I don't expect this much to happen as of now. Winning the Europa League title is also important for Klopp to increase his credit more.  Smiley
In fact, Jurgen Kloop has great intentions for his club, in fact he has not given up on building the club performance and continue to try to bring Liverpool to achieve good results. Currently Jurgen Kloop is more focused than the previous season, he is focused on competing in the European League and in the Premier League so you don't You need to worry if Kloop doesn't care about his club because the goal of every coach is to give the best for the club he manages. I believe Jurgen Kloop can achieve the results thats fans expect this season and I think Liverpool will wins at least 1 title this season. My prediction is between the European Leagues and also the Premier League.

Liverpool have just won over Newcastle and kept Liverpool in first place and are a strong candidate to win the title. In the Europa League Liverpool don't know who they will playing against in the rounds of 16 because we are still waiting for the play off round and the clubs that qualify will be a challenge for Liverpool and before Liverpool competes he will continue to hone his skills so that Liverpool can perform amazingly.
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January 02, 2024, 12:34:45 AM
Klopp doesn't have any luxury like caring much less about the Europa League I'm afraid. Liverpool's last season performance was really poor. Because they couldn't even finish the Premier League in top 4. Now Klopp is trying his best for the team to finish this season with good achievements. They are a title contender in the Premier League as they are already the leader there.

As for the Europa League bookies already show them the closest team to the title. Klopp made rotations in the group stage maybe but I don't expect this much to happen as of now. Winning the Europa League title is also important for Klopp to increase his credit more.  Smiley
I think Klopp will give the necessary importance to UEL. They will advance to the finals after playing 2 matches anyway. They will then begin their journey from the finals to the championship. In my opinion, both the Premier League and UEL are tournaments where Liverpool can win the championship.
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January 02, 2024, 12:30:54 AM
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You may be right but for me I think Liverpool has upper chance of winning the Europa League because there performance on this Europa is very impressive and encouraging, however with the kind of winning record they have on this Europa is actually a commendable one and also the interesting thing about Liverpool is that they are moving quite on both the premier League do to there consistent impressive performance they have been putting on the both leagues but with the current competition on  the premier League trophy I doubt if Liverpool will be able to win it because there are still other clubs that are more better than them in performance, so they should focus more on there Europa League were they have higher chance of winning.
It cannot be denied that all the positive comments on Liverpool are based on their impressive performances in the Europa League and Premier League. Liverpool is one of the favorites to win the race for the Europa League title this season, I hope Liverpool is not burdened by its status which is considered the team with the most potential in this competition. Liverpool must appear consistent and maintain their performance in order to achieve a beautiful final goal, currently they are the team with the most chance of winning the Europa League and Premier League trophies.
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January 01, 2024, 11:17:50 PM
several teams in the playoffs will join in, we can't just talk about Liverpool and Leverkusen even though many fans are surprised by Leverkusen's dominating performance this season. not only in the Bundesliga but also in the European League. Xabi did everything well and measuredly. he has a strategy that works well with the Leverkusen players.
but we still have to be wary of the teams that will soon join in the next round. there is Roma and also Milan. if the two join forces it will make the European League even more interesting.
These two teams must play cautiously at the start of the playoff round because if they make mistakes in the playoff matches, they might be eliminated from the tournament, though the chances of them being eliminated from the tournament are very low. The next rounds of the Europa League will not be difficult for the two teams if they can perform as they are doing in the upcoming matches. If these two teams consider the playoff matches as too much pressure and if they perform under too much pressure, they will not perform well at all.  Expectations are high on these two teams in the Europa League so we can expect these two teams not to make such mistakes.
I believe both teams may most likely make it pass the playoffs because both teams aren't weak infact AC Milan is in a much more good form enough to help them get pass this stage and into the next stage where the league will become even more interesting although I to hope they will be facing a more tough team at that stage.

Roma for me still looks like they may have problems getting pass the playoffs because they are really inconsistent, it's very possible they will get to they point and probably draw loose their games but then it's expected of them that all things been equal they win with little or no stress, Roma has done well I'm the Europa so far but in their local league they have been showing some kind of inconsistency although they gradually go up the table but not with very impressive moves. If Roma gets pass the playoffs and happen to meet Leverkusen at the semi finals I'm sure they will be knocked out because they don't lookk like they match such strength and that's why I've never seen them with possible potential of the league title this season.
The other teams in the Europa League are strong enough and other teams could do well in this season's Europa League, but Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen are perhaps the most talked about. There is a reason to talk about these two teams, since the beginning of the season, these two teams of 2 leagues are performing well. I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool dominate the Premier League this season as their performances speak for themselves. On the other hand, Bayern Munich's attacking line reached another level after Hary Kene joined Bayer Leverkusen, but the team still cannot compete with Bayer Leverkusen. Roma or other teams may be a barrier to the big teams but Roma's chances of doing well in the Europa League are very low.
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January 01, 2024, 07:53:23 PM
Xabi Alonso is one of the managers who are being followed closely this season. Because he has a great chemistry with Leverkusen and this is seen not only in the Bundesliga but also the Europa League. They are definitely a serious contender for the Europa League championship now.  Smiley  I can't say they are a bigger favourite than Liverpool in fact.

But it is all up to how much tryhard Liverpool will be in later rounds. If we see some weaknesses in their performance then balances can change quite much.

A finale between Liverpool and Leverkusen would be amazing but we will see.  Smiley

I hope so but the chance is pretty small for that final to happen caused by leverkusen and liverpool needs to pass all of obstacles first. We do know that if europa league is now having so many strong clubs and they will be playnig soon to determine which clubs that have been qualified for the europa league last of 16. Liverpool's dominance in the English Premier League is evident through their continuous winning streak, showcasing their exceptional performance. No doubt that if liverpool has very high standard on its gameplay compared to the other europa league right now.
It has become my main reason to call liverpool will be very dominant in the europa league this time. The lost against toulouse was nothing rather than a way for klopp to give his young players time to adapt with the situation in the europa league.
If Liverpool desires, they can achieve consistent victories in the game, however, Klopp decided to provide valuable experience to the young players by allowing them to participate in the Europa League, regardless of the unfavorable results, which is not considered a problem in any way.
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January 01, 2024, 05:49:29 PM
Personally I don't consider Liverpool team as favorite for Europa League because Premier League title is very difficult to win. They have to compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the Premier League title. If they lose a point in any match, they will be relegated. Liverpool have underperformed in the Premier League in the last three seasons. This is why they will try their best to win the Premier League title this season. And I've seen teams like Barcelona and Liverpool win the Europa League in the past.
  However, Liverpool are still favorites for the Europa League title.

I agree with what you said, that the important point is to win the Premier League trophy. more precisely, how does Klopp keep his team on the right track and continue to maintain its ranking on the Domestic League standings. the reason is, competition in January will be even tighter. City will be more serious about playing their matches, especially if several of their players have fully recovered from injuries. apart from that, City has 1 match which will face Liverpool at Anfield. this match will not be easy, especially if City plays with its full core of players. apart from that, Arteta will also study and improve his squad so that it remains able to compete in the race for the Premier League trophy. the Premier League competition will become increasingly difficult in terms of competition for trophies, especially as we approach the end of the season. which means, each team will try as hard as possible to avoid losing even minor points. well, will Klopp be serious about continuing to target this trophy? if yes, their focus will be divided, especially as the crucial rounds approach and at the same time the competition in the Premier League will become tighter. in fact, we know that Liverpool has been fasting for a Premier League title for quite some time. so what they have achieved so far, reaching the top of the standings in the Premier League, will not be wasted, especially for Klopp as coach. as for this competition, no one can deny that Liverpool is one of the strong challengers in the race for the Europa League trophy. however, we cannot confirm with certainty which team will win the Europa League competition. there is no other choice but to always take part in every match presented by this competition.
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January 01, 2024, 05:40:18 PM
Personally I don't consider Liverpool team as favorite for Europa League because Premier League title is very difficult to win. They have to compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the Premier League title. If they lose a point in any match, they will be relegated. Liverpool have underperformed in the Premier League in the last three seasons. This is why they will try their best to win the Premier League title this season. And I've seen teams like Barcelona and Liverpool win the Europa League in the past.
 
You may be right but for me I think Liverpool has upper chance of winning the Europa League because there performance on this Europa is very impressive and encouraging, however with the kind of winning record they have on this Europa is actually a commendable one and also the interesting thing about Liverpool is that they are moving quite on both the premier League do to there consistent impressive performance they have been putting on the both leagues but with the current competition on  the premier League trophy I doubt if Liverpool will be able to win it because there are still other clubs that are more better than them in performance, so they should focus more on there Europa League were they have higher chance of winning.
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January 01, 2024, 05:13:12 PM
Klopp doesn't have any luxury like caring much less about the Europa League I'm afraid. Liverpool's last season performance was really poor. Because they couldn't even finish the Premier League in top 4. Now Klopp is trying his best for the team to finish this season with good achievements. They are a title contender in the Premier League as they are already the leader there.

As for the Europa League bookies already show them the closest team to the title. Klopp made rotations in the group stage maybe but I don't expect this much to happen as of now. Winning the Europa League title is also important for Klopp to increase his credit more.  Smiley
Jurgen Klopp valued every title his team feature in and he would anticipate with his very best game strategy to ensure he wins. Liverpool may not have been in form last season and causing them to missed out on the UEFA Champions League competition this season, it's really a big miss for the Reds though they're currently topping the EPL table this season and we know what that means, do we? Liverpool are also in the Europa League and they're consider one of these competitive favorite club that would lift the title. There are obstacles on the way and Liverpool have to ensure they eliminate every single club they face on their path.
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January 01, 2024, 03:46:05 PM
Klopp doesn't have any luxury like caring much less about the Europa League I'm afraid. Liverpool's last season performance was really poor. Because they couldn't even finish the Premier League in top 4. Now Klopp is trying his best for the team to finish this season with good achievements. They are a title contender in the Premier League as they are already the leader there.

As for the Europa League bookies already show them the closest team to the title. Klopp made rotations in the group stage maybe but I don't expect this much to happen as of now. Winning the Europa League title is also important for Klopp to increase his credit more.  Smiley
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January 01, 2024, 02:12:07 PM
We are talking about Europa League not about Premier League or Bundesliga, so I have been feeling no need to do comparison between these leagues or teams for the title race because of their leagues we have winner those are coming from other leagues and beat teams from the tough leagues without any problems because this is mentality and professionalism which give them advantage does not league or its competitiveness.

Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen both are at the top of their leagues and these both are also best teams in Europa League this season, but we have few more teams which can do good work for the title race and have fair chance for the win as well but due to best shape and performance giving good advantage to these two for having better chance.
We have seen several occasions where a team that is not a title contender in their domestic League wins a team leading a domestic league with several points difference; therefore, this should not be a factor to consider when deciding a winner in a competition like this. Although I trust these two teams Leverkusen and Liverpool as they are now the two teams we are expecting a better performance from because they have all it takes to win the Europa League this season even though some teams from Champions League had already joined them.
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January 01, 2024, 02:03:14 PM
Xabi Alonso is one of the managers who are being followed closely this season. Because he has a great chemistry with Leverkusen and this is seen not only in the Bundesliga but also the Europa League. They are definitely a serious contender for the Europa League championship now.  Smiley  I can't say they are a bigger favourite than Liverpool in fact.

But it is all up to how much tryhard Liverpool will be in later rounds. If we see some weaknesses in their performance then balances can change quite much.

A finale between Liverpool and Leverkusen would be amazing but we will see.  Smiley
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Personally I don't consider Liverpool team as favorite for Europa League because Premier League title is very difficult to win. They have to compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the Premier League title. If they lose a point in any match, they will be relegated. Liverpool have underperformed in the Premier League in the last three seasons. This is why they will try their best to win the Premier League title this season. And I've seen teams like Barcelona and Liverpool win the Europa League in the past.
  However, Liverpool are still favorites for the Europa League title. Because they have a strong squad. Roma have been favorites for the Europa League for the last few seasons. But they can't win the title. On the other hand, the Leverkusen team is performing well this season. So this team is considered as the hot favorite for Europa League.

You guys are not getting tired of talking nonsense about how teams allocate their resources to the various competitions. Now slowly some people here notice how stupid it is to think that Liverpool intentionally neglects the Europa League in order to have more energy to win the Champions League. Then do me a favor and produce the whole breakdown for us. How many percentage points of their energy will Liverpool invest into the Europa League? How many into the Premier League?

But wait, what about Manchester City and Arsenal? Aren't they playing in the Champions League? But is it the same that you say Arsenal gives a damn about the Champions League because they want to win the Premier League? Manchester City, are they going 70% Champions League and 30% Europa League?

Do you realize that something like this doesn't exist and that these teams start the season to win every single cup that has some meaning in football? For English teams that is the Premier League, the FA Cup and a UEFA tournament. They don't skip one for the other.

I don't agree with you. Liverpool is doing very good currently despite the long injury list. Basically, their main players in the midfield are injured. Mac Allister and Thiago are injured. They called back Carvalho probably to handle the situation. But since the January transfer market started today, I think they will be looking to strengthen their lackings. Klopp won't be sitting around you know. If they can tackle their lackings and fix their injury list, I don't see them losing the Europa League.

Let's see who could be the problem for Liverpool in the Europa League. Bayer Leverkusen, AC Milan, AS Roma, and Villareal probably will be the biggest of their problems. Although Leverkusen is doing pretty good right now, the German league is not that strong. I think Liverpool will be able to deal with them. As for AC Milan, Roma, and Villareal, I think Liverpool will be able to handle the way they are playing right now. They are in the top spot right now in the premier league which is nothing to underestimate.

I think you misunderstood me and were referring to laurenB7742 who said that Liverpool would give up on one competition to win another competition. But I said that this is not true and Liverpool is on fire. They want to win it all and in fact I agree with you that Klopp will try to solve the problems with injuries as good as he can. The Europa League title starts to mean something to them. The first games were difficult because they were used to play in the Champions League, but the closer they get to the goal to reach the final, the more meaningful the competitions becomes.
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January 01, 2024, 01:42:54 PM
I had a feeling that we might see Brighton in the semifinals, this is their first debuts in the Europa League and they become the 1st in the group B.
The players knew that what they do now will be written in the club history as the highest Brighton achievement ever in the EU competition level.
Why Brighton can be in the semi-final? It is their first season in UEL, I am not sure they will reach the semi-final if they will get a difficult opponent in the next round. Although they can lead the group B, it is no guarantee they will do the same in the knock-out round. It is because the opponent will be harder and even there is the teams from UCL.

Honestly, I don't expect too much on the success of Brighton this season in UEL. I think Brighton just focus on the experience first. They want to get some lessons from UEL. They may target to get bigger achievement in UEL in the next season. It will be always difficult to reach semifinal or final in the first season. We know that it requires a lot of experiences.

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January 01, 2024, 01:04:20 PM
Shakhtar Donetsk actually had a good run in the Champions League and their fate was going to be clear by the final week games in the group stage. As they lost to Porto they are in the Europa League now. But we should keep something in mind definitely that Shakhtar still did good things in the group stage like beating Barcelona in the first place.

Therefore Marseille had better get ready for a fierce competition. I assume Shakhtar would maintain their determined performance against them as well. They have been affected by the war really badly in terms of their squad quality but they are still doing their best.
Shakhtar Donetsk indeed showed a commendable performance in the Champions League group stage. While their fate was determined in the final week with the loss to Porto, it's evident that Shakhtar has shown resilience and determination despite facing challenges, including the impact of the war on their squad quality. The fact that Shakhtar Donetsk is now moving into the Europa League suggests that they are still in contention and have an opportunity to showcase their capabilities in a different competition.

Marseille should indeed be prepared for a tough fight againts Shakhtar, because they have ability to maintain a determined performance despite the challenges imposed by the war which is a testament to the character of the team and their commitment to representing their club and supporters on the European stage. Marseille should not underestimate Shakhtar's resilience and should approach the upcoming competition with the awareness that they are facing a team that has proven its competitiveness in the Champions League.
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January 01, 2024, 12:58:10 PM
I do not see Liverpool as the favorite team to win Europa, neither EPL. We cannot use their present performance as a guarantee to win these two competitions. It is only if their players don't over stress themselves and mess things up as time goes on, that is when they might be able to win one of the competition. This is because we can't see what is ahead of us and if Liverpool key player get injured, it might affect their performance, also we have Bayern Leverkusen in Europa, and Manchester city and Arsenal in EPL as their rivals.
I think that applies in general, not just Liverpool. Because all teams are not guaranteed to win the trophy, there are challenges that will be faced in the future, player injuries, card accumulation and so on. The consistency of a club at the domestic level cannot be used as a complete reference, because each competition has very different competition and competitors, especially the European League which is full of surprises. Overall, let see what the chances of each team going forward after the play off round is completed, and who the opponents they will face in the round of 16. On the other hand, if you have to choose which team has the most potential to win the Europa League this season, then Liverpool and Laverkusen are worth considering.

That's right, there are several factors that can have an impact on team performance as you mentioned above, apart from that luck can also help them win matches or even tournaments of course there are many other factors that we never thought about before. For this season Liverpool is one of the main candidates to win this tournament but that is not a guarantee sometimes small things can change every team, I'm guessing Liverpool and Leverkusen will go to the final but we can't determine who the winner is yet.
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January 01, 2024, 12:39:10 PM
I do not see Liverpool as the favorite team to win Europa, neither EPL. We cannot use their present performance as a guarantee to win these two competitions. It is only if their players don't over stress themselves and mess things up as time goes on, that is when they might be able to win one of the competition. This is because we can't see what is ahead of us and if Liverpool key player get injured, it might affect their performance, also we have Bayern Leverkusen in Europa, and Manchester city and Arsenal in EPL as their rivals.
I think that applies in general, not just Liverpool. Because all teams are not guaranteed to win the trophy, there are challenges that will be faced in the future, player injuries, card accumulation and so on. The consistency of a club at the domestic level cannot be used as a complete reference, because each competition has very different competition and competitors, especially the European League which is full of surprises. Overall, let see what the chances of each team going forward after the play off round is completed, and who the opponents they will face in the round of 16. On the other hand, if you have to choose which team has the most potential to win the Europa League this season, then Liverpool and Laverkusen are worth considering.
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January 01, 2024, 12:25:55 PM
Shakhtar Donetsk actually had a good run in the Champions League and their fate was going to be clear by the final week games in the group stage. As they lost to Porto they are in the Europa League now. But we should keep something in mind definitely that Shakhtar still did good things in the group stage like beating Barcelona in the first place.

Therefore Marseille had better get ready for a fierce competition. I assume Shakhtar would maintain their determined performance against them as well. They have been affected by the war really badly in terms of their squad quality but they are still doing their best.
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Personally I don't consider Liverpool team as favorite for Europa League because Premier League title is very difficult to win. They have to compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the Premier League title. If they lose a point in any match, they will be relegated. Liverpool have underperformed in the Premier League in the last three seasons. This is why they will try their best to win the Premier League title this season. And I've seen teams like Barcelona and Liverpool win the Europa League in the past.
  However, Liverpool are still favorites for the Europa League title. Because they have a strong squad. Roma have been favorites for the Europa League for the last few seasons. But they can't win the title. On the other hand, the Leverkusen team is performing well this season. So this team is considered as the hot favorite for Europa League.

You guys are not getting tired of talking nonsense about how teams allocate their resources to the various competitions. Now slowly some people here notice how stupid it is to think that Liverpool intentionally neglects the Europa League in order to have more energy to win the Champions League. Then do me a favor and produce the whole breakdown for us. How many percentage points of their energy will Liverpool invest into the Europa League? How many into the Premier League?

But wait, what about Manchester City and Arsenal? Aren't they playing in the Champions League? But is it the same that you say Arsenal gives a damn about the Champions League because they want to win the Premier League? Manchester City, are they going 70% Champions League and 30% Europa League?

Do you realize that something like this doesn't exist and that these teams start the season to win every single cup that has some meaning in football? For English teams that is the Premier League, the FA Cup and a UEFA tournament. They don't skip one for the other.

I don't agree with you. Liverpool is doing very good currently despite the long injury list. Basically, their main players in the midfield are injured. Mac Allister and Thiago are injured. They called back Carvalho probably to handle the situation. But since the January transfer market started today, I think they will be looking to strengthen their lackings. Klopp won't be sitting around you know. If they can tackle their lackings and fix their injury list, I don't see them losing the Europa League.

Let's see who could be the problem for Liverpool in the Europa League. Bayer Leverkusen, AC Milan, AS Roma, and Villareal probably will be the biggest of their problems. Although Leverkusen is doing pretty good right now, the German league is not that strong. I think Liverpool will be able to deal with them. As for AC Milan, Roma, and Villareal, I think Liverpool will be able to handle the way they are playing right now. They are in the top spot right now in the premier league which is nothing to underestimate.
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