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The problem is that some possibilities always occur, indeed in a matter of probability about the experience and strength of the current team Milan will definitely be the favourite but the problem for Milan is that when they play against clubs that are lower in terms of Level than them this is what always backfires for themselves. It would be great if they continue to qualify for the round of 16 phase but saying with confidence at this time I still can't do that even though their probability is very strong.

Roma and Feyenoord in terms of h2h are currently still won by Roma because of the 3 matches they have played in the last 2 seasons Roma managed 2 wins and 1 defeat but this cannot be a full reference to be able to confidently favour Roma because indeed their problems are also still quite complex, it's just that for now there is a good chance for them, especially with Lukaku, who is still performing very well when he is in Roma to date.

Yes, that is Milan's problem which must be addressed immediately. They tend to be weak when facing average clubs but are actually very strong when facing elite clubs or Milan really underestimates their opponents so that their opponents are able to read the strategy that Milan is implementing. But it seems that in this match Milan will be more serious and focused on getting maximum results and it is hoped by their supporters, Milan failed to qualify for the Champions League, so in the Europa League Milan should be able to show their best.

If you look at the statistical data, Roma is superior to Feyenoord and this should be a match that is not too foreign to Roma because they previously met in the European league last season so this season they have to meet again. Indeed, Roma's performance is still a little doubtful but Jose Mourinho is A very experienced coach and I am sure he has prepared a mature strategy for this match, especially as Lukaku's presence will further strengthen Roma in facing various matches.

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Quote from: Spack17 on December 25, 2023, 05:20:54 PM

I wish Galatasaray good luck in the Europa League from now on. Because I was really watching them excitedly in the Champions League. Especially their matches against Manchester United and Bayern Munich were really impressive. But they couldn't defeat Copenhagen last and dropped to the Europa League. But I still think it is fine.

Galtasaray is in the higher level compared to the europa league team like sparta. I meant galatasaray was not lucky enough to be qualified for the UCL but it's still as strong as what it used to be. No doubt that i prefer to take galatasaray instead of sparta in the upcoming match.
Despite being a surprise, it was amazing to witness Sparta, a strong club, successfully replace Real Betis, a notable team in La Liga. This event serves as a reminder to Galatasaray that they should not underestimate their opponents.

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This is a competition in which they have more chance to achieve a bigger success. They just missed the chance of making a lot more money in the Champions League though but at least they can fight for having a solid achievement here. Sparta Prague shouldn't be a big problem for Galatasaray.

Yeah, the lost against copenhagen was unaccetable result for sparta and that's it. At least galatasaray can get additional income through participate in the europa league even though this income was pretty small though compared to the income from the club continously play on UCL.
Galtasaray has greater chance to win the game as long as it will not be bottling it in the game soon. Sparta is quite strong.

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I wish Galatasaray good luck in the Europa League from now on. Because I was really watching them excitedly in the Champions League. Especially their matches against Manchester United and Bayern Munich were really impressive. But they couldn't defeat Copenhagen last and dropped to the Europa League. But I still think it is fine.

This is a competition in which they have more chance to achieve a bigger success. They just missed the chance of making a lot more money in the Champions League though but at least they can fight for having a solid achievement here. Sparta Prague shouldn't be a big problem for Galatasaray.

Galatasaray is a good team with quality players that are fit ti compete in the Europa League especially after been eliminated from Champions League. They played well in the Champions in all their matches, they are just not lucky to advance to the round of 16 as a result of the last match they lose against Copenhagen because they over played Copenhagen, but Copenhagen was the best defensive team in their group that was why they defended well against Bayern Munich and Barcelona.

Galatasaray and AC Milan might be a threat to Liverpool and Leverkusen on title challenge.

This is a good summary of how things are looking in the Europa League. I wasn't watching a lot of games of Galatasaray, but when I saw how they dominated in the domestic league and then played so well in the Champions League, I was shocked, but positively. That was a Galatasaray from the good old days. They have caused Bayern Munich to have a big headache during the game against them when Galatasaray took control over the game for more than 70 minutes. They should have won but failed because they left all these chances out. But in the Europa League I agree that along with AC Milan and then Leverkusen and Liverpool, they could be considered a favorite.

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Quote from: Spack17 on December 25, 2023, 05:20:54 PM

I wish Galatasaray good luck in the Europa League from now on. Because I was really watching them excitedly in the Champions League. Especially their matches against Manchester United and Bayern Munich were really impressive. But they couldn't defeat Copenhagen last and dropped to the Europa League. But I still think it is fine.

This is a competition in which they have more chance to achieve a bigger success. They just missed the chance of making a lot more money in the Champions League though but at least they can fight for having a solid achievement here. Sparta Prague shouldn't be a big problem for Galatasaray.

Galatasaray is a good team with quality players that are fit ti compete in the Europa League especially after been eliminated from Champions League. They played well in the Champions in all their matches, they are just not lucky to advance to the round of 16 as a result of the last match they lose against Copenhagen because they over played Copenhagen, but Copenhagen was the best defensive team in their group that was why they defended well against Bayern Munich and Barcelona.

Galatasaray and AC Milan might be a threat to Liverpool and Leverkusen on title challenge.

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Quote from: Belarge on December 25, 2023, 06:29:50 PM

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I wish Galatasaray good luck in the Europa League from now on.

You're telling me Bayern Munich and Copenhagen made it to the next phase while Galatasaray push to Europa and Manchester United return back to Old Trafford with nothing to boost about.

Galatasaray was close to qualify to the next stage but made some mistakes that prevented it to continue in UEFA Champions League. It is true they lost good amount of money by not qualifying but they can try their chance in UEFA Europa League where they have the opportunity to advance easier comparing to the other competition.
Their match will be against Sparta Praha which will not be definitely easy but they can win in it. In fact, they have to win in the first leg in their home by two goals difference at least to avoid bad surprises in the second leg.
For Manchester United, they are hopeless this season whether they continued in Champions League or played in Europa League, I can't trust them to advance a lot even in Conference League. Their situation currently is miserable Lips sealed

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Quote from: Spack17 on December 25, 2023, 05:20:54 PM

I wish Galatasaray good luck in the Europa League from now on. Because I was really watching them excitedly in the Champions League. Especially their matches against Manchester United and Bayern Munich were really impressive. But they couldn't defeat Copenhagen last and dropped to the Europa League. But I still think it is fine.

This is a competition in which they have more chance to achieve a bigger success. They just missed the chance of making a lot more money in the Champions League though but at least they can fight for having a solid achievement here. Sparta Prague shouldn't be a big problem for Galatasaray.

You're telling me Bayern Munich and Copenhagen made it to the next phase while Galatasaray push to Europa and Manchester United return back to Old Trafford with nothing to boost about. After all the energy and exciting victory chants from the supporters, they actually ended up in Europa League and failed to qualify for the next phase of the UCL. Galatasaray was dissapointed, after playing top football against their opponents and they hoped for a secure spot in the round of 16, unknowingly to them they can't stand a possible chance of surviving in UCL this season.

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Quote from: Spack17 on December 25, 2023, 05:20:54 PM

I wish Galatasaray good luck in the Europa League from now on. Because I was really watching them excitedly in the Champions League. Especially their matches against Manchester United and Bayern Munich were really impressive. But they couldn't defeat Copenhagen last and dropped to the Europa League. But I still think it is fine.

This is a competition in which they have more chance to achieve a bigger success. They just missed the chance of making a lot more money in the Champions League though but at least they can fight for having a solid achievement here. Sparta Prague shouldn't be a big problem for Galatasaray.

Sparta Prague is a strong team. A team like Copenhagen that likes to close down and Galatasaray may have difficulty in such matches. Playing well in the matches against Manchester United took them to the UEL and I wish them luck because they made Manchester United lose 5 points in 2 matches and Manchester United came last in the group. Perhaps the biggest surprise of this year was this event. Even though Prague is a difficult away game in UEL, Galatasaray can beat them and eliminate them.

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I wish Galatasaray good luck in the Europa League from now on. Because I was really watching them excitedly in the Champions League. Especially their matches against Manchester United and Bayern Munich were really impressive. But they couldn't defeat Copenhagen last and dropped to the Europa League. But I still think it is fine.

This is a competition in which they have more chance to achieve a bigger success. They just missed the chance of making a lot more money in the Champions League though but at least they can fight for having a solid achievement here. Sparta Prague shouldn't be a big problem for Galatasaray.

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Big Matches in the round of 16 would be great but then again at the moment we still can't decide which teams can qualify for the play offs because even though there are Snip-

Milan is definitely the favorite in this match considering that Milan's performance is much stronger than Rennes. I am sure that Milan will qualify for the last 16 of the Europa League after failing to get a ticket to the next round of the Champions League. I am quite optimistic about the Milan vs Rennes match even though both of them are not in good condition in the domestic league but Milan is much better than Rennes but yes the Italian league and League 1 are different in strength but in terms of squad it seems like Milan is far superior.

Another more interesting match is Feyenoord vs Roma but this match seems difficult to predict because Feyenoord is in good condition in the domestic league and Roma also after beating Napoli indeed if you look at Roma they are in high confidence after beating Napoli so it could be that this will happen become a benchmark for Roma to show their ability to maintain their good performance in the Europa League like last season.

The problem is that some possibilities always occur, indeed in a matter of probability about the experience and strength of the current team Milan will definitely be the favourite but the problem for Milan is that when they play against clubs that are lower in terms of Level than them this is what always backfires for themselves. It would be great if they continue to qualify for the round of 16 phase but saying with confidence at this time I still can't do that even though their probability is very strong.

Roma and Feyenoord in terms of h2h are currently still won by Roma because of the 3 matches they have played in the last 2 seasons Roma managed 2 wins and 1 defeat but this cannot be a full reference to be able to confidently favour Roma because indeed their problems are also still quite complex, it's just that for now there is a good chance for them, especially with Lukaku, who is still performing very well when he is in Roma to date.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on December 25, 2023, 10:56:21 AM

Acmilan is not as good as last season. The club performs like a promising club and it was declining so hard in a short time. Pioli has serious troble with it. I meant that if he is not capable enough to handle the club to play better than before.
This si another disaster for acmilan it's caused by the club must have competed for the title race. Milan is still hacing chance to get europa league but it's pretty small enough. It's caused by acmilan is now capable anymore to be a good club. This is one of worst club compared to the other big clubs in the serie a. I meant if liverpool and leverkusen have been holding greater chance to qualify for the next round. Yet acmilan has not yet faced a easy game and this is still good for the club. Rennes was not a strong club compared to the acmilan.
Im sure that the club can beat it easily without even doing a tough game against rennes. Rennes is still having very poor performance. It's unlikely rennes will able to beat roma in the knock out stage.
acmilan is far stronger compared to the rennes right now.

I think it is not because they are not as good, I think it is clear that we are seeing other teams do better instead. I mean that's not really a problem, you can't win the title every year, but this season Inter and Juventus look much better. That's the trouble with football, sometimes you see teams do better and look worse.

Let's think of it in numbers, if you have a team that is 75 levels, and another that is 70 levels, the 75 level one could go to 80 level, but 70 level one could go to 90 levels. In that situation, both teams got better, but one looks worse now, so the fans will think that they are worse than last season. I believe that is what we are seeing here, that's the biggest problem and we should be hoping for a better way.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on December 25, 2023, 12:56:56 PM

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Of course Leverkusen showed a good game and got out of the group without any problems. But apart from them there are other, more experienced clubs. Maybe it will be Roma or Feyenoord. After the qualifying matches there will be clubs from the Champions League. In addition, there are Liverpool or Villarreal. So the competition will only increase.

Increased competition in the Europa League after the arrival of teams from the Champions League must be used as a challenge for Leverkusen, they also need to open their eyes that European competition is more challenging than the domestic league. Leverkusen needs to maintain performance as in the previous match to maintain competition, his appearance is very decisive to what extent they can travel in the Europa League.

Liverpool is also a serious challenge for Leverkusen, Klopp's team performed well this season which made them one of the teams ready to bring home the Europa League trophy. Klopp will try to give the best so that Liverpool can bring home the trophy, but Xabi Alonso will fight hard to get his first trophy as a coach in European competition.

It's probably a bit easier in the group stage if your team is playing well. But in the play-off matches you won't get many tries. Leverkusen don't have much experience in European Cups. For me it's something like Napoli or the current Barcelona. It will be difficult for them to play in the domestic league and Europa League when the opponents are really strong.

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The way Liverpool finished the season last season, we couldn't have predicted that Liverpool would be back in terrible form next season. Liverpool have released several players from their club this season but on the contrary they have not signed any quality players to their club yet their performance is the best in the Premier League at the moment. Liverpool is in the second position of the points table with just one point less having played the same number of matches as Arsenal. In addition to the great performance in the English Premier League, they are also in a great rhythm in the European League and if they do not make any big mistakes, Liverpool is going to be the European champion this season. Liverpool have made several changes in their tactics this season which has led to their success.

The resurgence of Liverpool this season has indeed been remarkable, and it defies the expectations that might have been based on their performance in the previous season. Liverpool's ability to make tactical adjustments is a testament to their managerial prowess. Signing needed players and Adapting to changes in tactics and strategy lead to their impressive form. The willingness to make necessary changes indicates a strong and proactive approach from the coaching staff.

While Liverpool made some changes to their squad, the core group of players like Virgil van Dijk and Mo Salah has maintained a high level of performance. The chemistry and understanding among players on the field are crucial for success, and Liverpool seems to have found a balance that works well for them. Even if Liverpool did not make high-profile signings, their squad depth and the quality of players available allow them to rotate and maintain a good performance. Jurgen Klopp has a graet managerial and leadership skill that cannot be understated. His ability to motivate players, make tactical decisions, and guide the team through challenges have been key factors in Liverpool's success.

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Quote from: Roseline492 on December 25, 2023, 01:28:00 PM

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My personal opinion is that Leverkusen and Roma are the biggest favorites for the Europa League title. I wouldn't consider Liverpool a favorite for the Europa League.

Liverpool is a big club. They are trying hard to win the Premier League title this season. Winning the Premier League title is much more difficult. And for a long time they could not win the Premier League title. Liverpool have a strong squad this season. So they are looking to dominate the Premier League again. So this team's focus will be on Premier League matches. On the other hand, Roma's target is to win the Europa League title. Because Mourinho knows very well that Roma have no chance of winning the Serie A title.

Actually the possibility of Liverpool wining the premier League is very low compare to the club competing for the premier league trophy this season, although they are on the second place of the premier league table and they have made a quite impressive performance considering most the matches they have won, actually Liverpool main target is to become the premier league champions but however I don't think it will be possible because the best candidate for the premier league trophy is Arsenal, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur, so perhaps since Liverpool is currently doing well on the Europa League they should focus more on the Europa League if they could be able to win.

The way Liverpool finished the season last season, we couldn't have predicted that Liverpool would be back in terrible form next season. Liverpool have released several players from their club this season but on the contrary they have not signed any quality players to their club yet their performance is the best in the Premier League at the moment. Liverpool is in the second position of the points table with just one point less having played the same number of matches as Arsenal. In addition to the great performance in the English Premier League, they are also in a great rhythm in the European League and if they do not make any big mistakes, Liverpool is going to be the European champion this season. Liverpool have made several changes in their tactics this season which has led to their success.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on December 25, 2023, 12:55:07 PM

My personal opinion is that Leverkusen and Roma are the biggest favorites for the Europa League title. I wouldn't consider Liverpool a favorite for the Europa League.

Liverpool is a big club. They are trying hard to win the Premier League title this season. Winning the Premier League title is much more difficult. And for a long time they could not win the Premier League title. Liverpool have a strong squad this season. So they are looking to dominate the Premier League again. So this team's focus will be on Premier League matches. On the other hand, Roma's target is to win the Europa League title. Because Mourinho knows very well that Roma have no chance of winning the Serie A title.

Actually the possibility of Liverpool wining the premier League is very low compare to the club competing for the premier league trophy this season, although they are on the second place of the premier league table and they have made a quite impressive performance considering most the matches they have won, actually Liverpool main target is to become the premier league champions but however I don't think it will be possible because the best candidate for the premier league trophy is Arsenal, Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur, so perhaps since Liverpool is currently doing well on the Europa League they should focus more on the Europa League if they could be able to win.

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I hate this time, is so long to wait for the restart of the competition, we have nearby to two months of wait, one thing im not seeing so much is reinforcement in the teams in this winter market, i think we have to wait a little bit more to start to see names going from one place to another but still strange this quiet.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on December 25, 2023, 12:56:56 PM

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Of course Leverkusen showed a good game and got out of the group without any problems. But apart from them there are other, more experienced clubs. Maybe it will be Roma or Feyenoord. After the qualifying matches there will be clubs from the Champions League. In addition, there are Liverpool or Villarreal. So the competition will only increase.

Increased competition in the Europa League after the arrival of teams from the Champions League must be used as a challenge for Leverkusen, they also need to open their eyes that European competition is more challenging than the domestic league. Leverkusen needs to maintain performance as in the previous match to maintain competition, his appearance is very decisive to what extent they can travel in the Europa League.

Liverpool is also a serious challenge for Leverkusen, Klopp's team performed well this season which made them one of the teams ready to bring home the Europa League trophy. Klopp will try to give the best so that Liverpool can bring home the trophy, but Xabi Alonso will fight hard to get his first trophy as a coach in European competition.

For Xabi Alonso, this is a big mental pressure to play in the Europa League, because we know Leverkusen's unbeatable record at domestic league level.
We can't predict when we talk about the European League, because the pressure will definitely be different. Especially if Xabi cannot raise the mentality of his players.
Liverpool are favored because Kloop and his team have played well in European league matches several times, but this is in stark contrast to their performance in the domestic league which is less than satisfactory.
But I personally really want to see the European League final between Liverpool and Leverkusen, this is a duel of modern coaching strategies. The game should be very interesting.

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Quote from: fzkto on December 25, 2023, 10:00:48 AM

Of course Leverkusen showed a good game and got out of the group without any problems. But apart from them there are other, more experienced clubs. Maybe it will be Roma or Feyenoord. After the qualifying matches there will be clubs from the Champions League. In addition, there are Liverpool or Villarreal. So the competition will only increase.

Increased competition in the Europa League after the arrival of teams from the Champions League must be used as a challenge for Leverkusen, they also need to open their eyes that European competition is more challenging than the domestic league. Leverkusen needs to maintain performance as in the previous match to maintain competition, his appearance is very decisive to what extent they can travel in the Europa League.

Liverpool is also a serious challenge for Leverkusen, Klopp's team performed well this season which made them one of the teams ready to bring home the Europa League trophy. Klopp will try to give the best so that Liverpool can bring home the trophy, but Xabi Alonso will fight hard to get his first trophy as a coach in European competition.

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I don't think teams like Milan, Benfica and Galatasaray have a chance here. Liverpool and Bayern Levernkusen are the strongest favorites on paper. Liverpool is the team that has much more success and is chasing the first place in their own league.

We can't judge them to have no chance. But surely the chance to beat Leverkusen and Liverpool aren't very high. The most favorite team to win the title of Europa League should be Leverkusen and Liverpool. They are playing consistently and they have good squad. However, it is not impossible for a surprise to happen. The favorite teams don't always win as expected.

True, we never know what's going to happen to them in the match, they could pull off a big surprise and then silence all the doubters, so I agree that they still have a chance, although not as big a chance as Leverkusen and Liverpool.
Leverkusen and Liverpool are favorites because of their promising performances, so it's very natural that many people make them favorites, yes that includes me.
We can't forget other factors, like luck for example, because there are many cases where luck determines whether a club can achieve something satisfying or something disappointing. We can't underestimate another club, even if it's a club that doesn't look promising at all.

My personal opinion is that Leverkusen and Roma are the biggest favorites for the Europa League title. I wouldn't consider Liverpool a favorite for the Europa League.

Liverpool is a big club. They are trying hard to win the Premier League title this season. Winning the Premier League title is much more difficult. And for a long time they could not win the Premier League title. Liverpool have a strong squad this season. So they are looking to dominate the Premier League again. So this team's focus will be on Premier League matches. On the other hand, Roma's target is to win the Europa League title. Because Mourinho knows very well that Roma have no chance of winning the Serie A title.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on December 25, 2023, 10:56:21 AM

Acmilan is not as good as last season. The club performs like a promising club and it was declining so hard in a short time. Pioli has serious troble with it. I meant that if he is not capable enough to handle the club to play better than before.
This si another disaster for acmilan it's caused by the club must have competed for the title race. Milan is still hacing chance to get europa league but it's pretty small enough. It's caused by acmilan is now capable anymore to be a good club. This is one of worst club compared to the other big clubs in the serie a. I meant if liverpool and leverkusen have been holding greater chance to qualify for the next round. Yet acmilan has not yet faced a easy game and this is still good for the club. Rennes was not a strong club compared to the acmilan.
Im sure that the club can beat it easily without even doing a tough game against rennes. Rennes is still having very poor performance. It's unlikely rennes will able to beat roma in the knock out stage.
acmilan is far stronger compared to the Rennes right now.

The thing with most clubs who showed positive signs in the last season in this season is that the majority of them have declined without their own knowledge and AC Milan is one of them, if you have been following up with the recent performance you will know how bad the club have performed in recent time and if judging from the last season you already see the gap in their performance.

But then I can't say that it is too late for AC Milan to come up with more of its last-season vibes, but if things continue this way in the next two to three matches, it will become hard for the club to recover at most in this season.

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Quote from: klidex on December 25, 2023, 02:32:48 AM

Another more interesting match is Feyenoord vs Roma but this match seems difficult to predict because Feyenoord is in good condition in the domestic league and Roma also after beating Napoli indeed if you look at Roma they are in high confidence after beating Napoli so it could be that this will happen become a benchmark for Roma to show their ability to maintain their good performance in the Europa League like last season.

It's a match with a grudge that certainly need to be settled. The last 3 matches in the final as well as the first and second legs in the Europa League phase last season were always full of drama including a massacre with a red card drama for Feyenoord.

It is interesting indeed and it is likely that this match will be full of drama again because looking from what is happening at this time both still have the momentum to be able to win in this play off.
The problem in this case is how Roma maintain the momentum. At the moment their momentum is still very good its just that by looking at the matches that are still quite long and the condition of Roma which is sometimes still unpredictable, I think it will still be difficult to predict how they will perform although in terms of players Roma will still be a favorite with Lukaku as their goal machine.

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