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Quote from: borovichok on December 01, 2023, 11:16:36 PM

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Ajax at least looks to be improving right now. In the last few matches, even though they have not been able to win many, they at least have been able to avoid losses. So that is going to give them good confidence going forward. But it is definitely not going to be easy. they also have some relatively tough matches coming ahead. They will have to make sure that they will not lose those matches. They will have to get at least one point from those. From the upcoming three matches, I expect them to get at least five points. Even if they get three points, it is going to be okay. But if they lose one they will need to win the other two. I am talking about only the upcoming three matches by the way.

This season have been the very worst sets for Ajax, poor stats and performance, a way that it dissapoints their supporters. Ajax are struggling to crawl and then run back to de Godenzonen. Recording streak defeats matches and battling to accumulate three points against teams one could easily win without any difficulty now becomes the club Ajax struggles to win. This football is very unbalanced because an elite team can turn to be the flop club today and tomorrow, the mediocre team will grow to become the most dominated clubs and gives hugh headaches to these elite clubs in competitive race.

No hope for ajax in both domestic and non domestic competition. Ajax has been officially out from the europa league and it's also placing at the eighth place. No hope for this club. Ajax is out together with AEK. There was last matchday remaining at this moment.
The good competition is a competition that was always giving us surprise. I meant seeing how a strong team became a flop in a short time is making the competition looks so attractive. It's not same like some farmers league where the strongest club was dominant in the competition.
Look at bundesliga. Bayern has been winning bundesliga for 11 times in a row. It doesn't even make sense if the club will be winning it again for 12 times in a row.
There must be a competitor that must stop the domination by munich. Seeing how ajax was performing so badly made me feel so good. Glad to see ajax was failed in the group stage. It deserves it.

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Quote from: DanWalker on December 01, 2023, 10:11:08 PM

Ajax at least looks to be improving right now. In the last few matches, even though they have not been able to win many, they at least have been able to avoid losses. So that is going to give them good confidence going forward. But it is definitely not going to be easy. they also have some relatively tough matches coming ahead. They will have to make sure that they will not lose those matches. They will have to get at least one point from those. From the upcoming three matches, I expect them to get at least five points. Even if they get three points, it is going to be okay. But if they lose one they will need to win the other two. I am talking about only the upcoming three matches by the way.

But however, we can conclude that there is indeed potential at Ajax, they will slowly improve again, they just need time and hard work. This is a good development after the last few months.

Quote from: borovichok on December 01, 2023, 11:16:36 PM

This season have been the very worst sets for Ajax, poor stats and performance, a way that it dissapoints their supporters. Ajax are struggling to crawl and then run back to de Godenzonen. Recording streak defeats matches and battling to accumulate three points against teams one could easily win without any difficulty now becomes the club Ajax struggles to win. This football is very unbalanced because an elite team can turn to be the flop club today and tomorrow, the mediocre team will grow to become the most dominated clubs and gives hugh headaches to these elite clubs in competitive race.

Ajax this season is very bad, both in the league and in the European league, it is difficult to imagine that Ajax, which is an elite club, suddenly becomes a mediocre club. Maybe there are many factors why Ajax is like this now, since Ten Hag's departure there have been a lot of problems, such as the sale of key players and also management errors plus fan unrest, until now Ajax has not found a good coach to replace Erik Ten Hag. On the other hand, it is also possible that Ajax this season will buy mostly players from outside the Dutch league. So far, from season to season, Ajax has always relied on academy players and only bought 1 or 2 players. That's why Ajax is now in a slump because the players they brought in can't follow the Ajax game system.

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Quote from: ndutndut on December 01, 2023, 03:48:48 PM

It's not surprising that As Roma's match ended in a draw even though As Roma were superior in possession of the ball, this was all because they wasted too many opportunities, Dybala even failed to score a clean chance on the other side. The reason is, Roma also doesn't have a winger who is capable of providing crosses. and this is a big obstacle. Moreover, As Roma has a great player like Lukaku in the attack line. But this didn't go well because As Roma didn't have a winger who was able to provide sweet passes to Lukaku.

This draw was very disappointing. They should have won this match because as last year's European cup finalists they could have at least won group G. For me, this is embarrassing for As Roma, they should have easily achieved more than 15 points but in reality they will end up in second place.

That's the most interesting things about football, it's full of suprises and it makes it very unique, the Europa League is a very big tournament played by tough clubs from different league, therefore even though you're among the best in your league you don't have to underestimate any team but rather work hard to do better, as a big team like As Roma with a big coach and several talented players, I think they should be able to improvise when they lack a certain quality of player in a certain area, they've been doing well before this game without players that could deliver good passes to Lukaku therefore I don't understand why they couldn't win this.

Well ending in 2nd place is not a bad idea so far they'll move to the next round which is the most important thing to keep them in the tournament, well they might have had a disappointing draw game but I believe they'll do better in their next match and all eyes would be on Lukaku to deliver this team this time around.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 01, 2023, 04:15:05 PM

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Although they had more possession of the ball, they lost to Servette in terms of chances, their defense had problems that made them like this, not only that, but their front line also lacked creativity so that when they got stuck they didn't find other gaps to go deeper.
Actualy now they are safe from the group stage, it's just that the worst possibility is that they can't qualify directly for the last 16 and still have to play the play offs. And when that happens they will have to wait to see whether or not they will face a stronger opponent in the play offs.

Servette did made it a hard game for Roma as their defense line wan tighten regardless of the fact that Roma had the ball most of the time, they found it really difficult penetrating the defense well enough to get good number of goal except for the only goal they had I'm the first half.

Roma was not lucky enough during the game. Lukaku has got its second golden chance but his shooting was far away from the goal net. Im thinking that if he was not lucky enough caused by lukaku was always doing perfect execution like the first goal against servette.
Roma is now placing at the second place. It seems like that roma will unable to finish at the first place even though the gap was not too big to the its competitor.

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After which the second half of the game was dominated by servette and Roma had to protect their only goal.but not well enough and servette secured a goal and a point from Roma , they did made their visitors uncomfortable and not to feel at home but then if not for the recent inconsistency with the present performance of Roma, they should be able to win their opponent with little or no stress.

That's sad how roma's performance has been declining a lot since it was losing in the europa league. Roma was not able beating servette which was very bad. Even jose was so mad to the all of its players. Unable to beat servette was also making jose's reputation looks bad.
I do understand why jose mourinho was being so mad toward his club. It was only servette whch was unfamiliar club in the professional football but roma was unable beating it with good score.
Jose mourinho might be telling some of its players to work even harder than before. It's time for roma to wake up and move on. There will be another important match to come soon.

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I think the poor results that Ajax has this season I guess, are more disappointing results that Ajax has in the local league. Because anyway, if we compare it with the Europa League, then I think even though Ajax failed also in Europa League, but it is more disappointing the results that Ajax got in the domestic league. Because after all, Ajax is a team that always competes in the title race with PSV there in every season but in this season, Ajax started from the relegation zone, but now Ajax has managed to recover its position slowly. But about Ajax in the Europa League, for me the result remains a reasonable result because yes, at least Ajax also still has a chance to be able to finish in third place because in the last match Ajax will play at home against AEK. So yes, if Ajax manages to beat AEK in the last match later, then Ajax will finish in third place and will enter to the playoff round to continue in the Conference League.

Ajax's reshuffling of their palyer due to several departures has made it increasingly difficult for them to maintain a consistent attack.
We know that in the last 2 season a lot of stars have left such as Haller, Antony or Martinez which makes it difficult for them to control their performance and this season they are getting worse. Even though they are one of my favorites but indeed this season in the European League they played very badly.
5 games without a win and only 2 point is really very bad for them at the moment and the last match is also actually hopeless but at least they must still win 1 victory so that the mentality of the players is not too destroyed.

Ajax at least looks to be improving right now. In the last few matches, even though they have not been able to win many, they at least have been able to avoid losses. So that is going to give them good confidence going forward. But it is definitely not going to be easy. they also have some relatively tough matches coming ahead. They will have to make sure that they will not lose those matches. They will have to get at least one point from those. From the upcoming three matches, I expect them to get at least five points. Even if they get three points, it is going to be okay. But if they lose one they will need to win the other two. I am talking about only the upcoming three matches by the way.

That is precisely the problem. In the Europa League they are getting worse at the moment because at the beginning they at least managed to win a draw but now it is precisely the last 3 matches they have all ended in defeat.
Yesterday's match against Marseille they gave a good performance but it didn't bring anything as they still lost with a 7-goal drama.
The last match is also not too decisive for them but at least they should be able to make this a good victory to make their face a little lifted because going home with no victory even for a club like Ajax this really tarnishes the name of the club.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 01, 2023, 04:15:05 PM

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Although they had more possession of the ball, they lost to Servette in terms of chances, their defense had problems that made them like this, not only that, but their front line also lacked creativity so that when they got stuck they didn't find other gaps to go deeper.
Actualy now they are safe from the group stage, it's just that the worst possibility is that they can't qualify directly for the last 16 and still have to play the play offs. And when that happens they will have to wait to see whether or not they will face a stronger opponent in the play offs.

Servette did made it a hard game for Roma as their defense line wan tighten regardless of the fact that Roma had the ball most of the time, they found it really difficult penetrating the defense well enough to get good number of goal except for the only goal they had I'm the first half.

After which the second half of the game was dominated by servette and Roma had to protect their only goal.but not well enough and servette secured a goal and a point from Roma , they did made their visitors uncomfortable and not to feel at home but then if not for the recent inconsistency with the present performance of Roma, they should be able to win their opponent with little or no stress.

Jose Mourinho must immediately find a solution to the problems they feel at this time. and in my opinion they must bring in a new midfielder who has high creativity to support their attack line. Actually now they already have good forwards like Lukaku, but still Lukaku cannot work alone but must have a good ball supplier from midfield so that he can then utilize it into a goal.
This transfer market they must make good use of it and must bring in a good attacking midfielder to support their front line.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 01, 2023, 04:15:05 PM

Servette did made it a hard game for Roma as their defense line wan tighten regardless of the fact that Roma had the ball most of the time, they found it really difficult penetrating the defense well enough to get good number of goal except for the only goal they had I'm the first half.

After which the second half of the game was dominated by servette and Roma had to protect their only goal.but not well enough and servette secured a goal and a point from Roma , they did made their visitors uncomfortable and not to feel at home but then if not for the recent inconsistency with the present performance of Roma, they should be able to win their opponent with little or no stress.

Servette has quite high motivation and self-confidence in this match. So they can play better than usual. Servette was even able to match AS Roma's playing pattern in this match. And Servette success made it quite difficult for AS Roma. However, I think a 1-1 draw is a fair result for this match. Because both teams played quite well. It's just that I'm a little dissatisfied with AS Roma's performance in this match. It seemed they weren't as ambitious as usual. Maybe because their position is quite safe in Group G, AS Roma can play more relaxed. However, if AS Roma cannot top the Group Rankings, the play-offs could make them unsafe. So I am disappointed that AS Roma could not get full points in this match.

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Quote from: DanWalker on December 01, 2023, 10:11:08 PM

Ajax at least looks to be improving right now. In the last few matches, even though they have not been able to win many, they at least have been able to avoid losses. So that is going to give them good confidence going forward. But it is definitely not going to be easy. they also have some relatively tough matches coming ahead. They will have to make sure that they will not lose those matches. They will have to get at least one point from those. From the upcoming three matches, I expect them to get at least five points. Even if they get three points, it is going to be okay. But if they lose one they will need to win the other two. I am talking about only the upcoming three matches by the way.

Ajax will improve their results a little in the Eredivisie, but in El they are still doing poorly, and in their last matches they lost to Brighton and lost to Marseille, in the match with Marseille they conceded 4 goals, which still indicates their poor defensive.

Quote from: temple on December 01, 2023, 03:33:16 PM

But this is what I thought when they lose their last game against Toulouse. It was more like they took a break from their high intensity football and they knew that they would do their job when it is necessary against LASK. I believe they weren't really risking anything, but it was like slowing down a bit. The good thing is that they quickly realized again how strong some opponents can become when the game is not taken seriously 100%, but they have enough to experience to have some control over the effort they want to put into some of the games.

Klopp realized that they were in complete control of the situation, in the match with LASK they achieved the victory they needed and secured first place in the group ahead of schedule. But to be honest, I think that Liverpool is not very interested in the EL, this is not a tournament of their level and they do not pay enough attention to it, but Klopp understands that they are favorites in this EL, so they don't mind winning it.

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Although AEK Athens had more possession and played more ball, the away team, who had more experienced and experienced players, managed to win the match.

AEK were the better team during the whole sequence of play before Brighton won the penalty and also after that. They were really unlucky not to come away with even a point from the match and will rue their missed chances.

Brighton did not really have experienced players, this is their first time playing in Europe and they have a very, very young squad. They also have a lot of injured players which further weakens their squad.

Let's see how far they go in this competition.

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AEK Athens seem somehow good in performance too because they have actually made an effort on this season Europa because if you check there matches they have played this season even if they had some losing but they are quite impressive because some of there matches they won I never believe that they can be able to win those matches.

However there last match against Brighton they really posed a threat to Brighton because it was quite difficult for Brighton but they manage to finally scored at 55 minutes but however if not for the red card Athens had they would have almost draw the match.

Athens had good shot statistics and Brighton had a tough time in the first half. But this is football and unexpected things often happen. So the red card decided the outcome of the game. Now Athens have no chance to continue in the Europa League.

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Quote from: reagansimms on December 01, 2023, 11:53:47 PM

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Already Sevilla performs more better when they are in the Europa league so moving to the Europa league will be more preferable for them since they are more accustomed to the play nature of the Europa league rather than the Champions league but notwithstanding that, Sevilla have really been in bad form this season even in their domestic league la Liga, and the UEFA champions league, hope they do better when they move to the Europa competition. It's really sad to see a competitive club like Sevilla that competites with bigger teams in the Spanish la Liga is struggling in the league this season to the extent of being in the 15th position of the La Liga table. Just hope they bounce back to form as their performance so far is not applaudable.

Sevilla has been unlucky this season due to playing in the Champions League, now they are in an unlucky position in the group stage. The Last Match will be a tough match for Sevilla, especially since they will play at Lens headquarters, who are also eyeing a ticket to the Europa League.
Last season Sevilla also performed less consistently in La Liga, but they were able to show consistent performance in the Europa League and managed to win the trophy. This season's Europa League will have a new champion, Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen are in their best form, these two teams are the strongest candidates to win the Europa League this season.

Sevilla needs a miracle to qualify, not to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League, but to qualify for the play-off round of the Europa League by finishing in 3rd place in group B. There is only one condition, namely, to beat Lens with a large goal margin, to win on goal difference. because the number of points for both of them will be the same, namely 5 points. However, I already think that this scenario seems very difficult to realize.

Sevilla fate is very tragic, I think the club with the most potential to enter the European League from the UCL is Newcastle. This is a club that the two existing favorite teams, Liverpool and Laverkusen, must pay close attention to. Actually, I hope Man United can continue their steps here, but the situation is no better than Sevilla in group B.

Even though it is only a second caste competition at European level, I am quite sure of the competitive level of competition that takes place here, it takes a big fight to become champion. In fact, I think the European League sometimes presents more surprises than the UCL, because the big clubs that compete here often underestimate their opponents. Like Liverpool being beaten by Toulouse, who would have thought that could happen.

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Roma should have been able to maximize the match against Servette, but again Mourinho's troops were unable to do much in front of their opponent. In fact, if we look at the player material, the Gialllorossi are far superior. However, Roma of course still has the opportunity to get three points in the last match against Sheriff, but if Slavia Prague also manages to get full points then Lukaku's steps will be very difficult because they have to survive through the playoffs. Mourinho should have avoided a situation like that because the unstable performance of his troops would certainly make fans very worried.

It is not surprising that Roma failed to get points against weaker teams in Europa League. It is not the first time Roma got a defeat by average teams. In Serie A, they were defeated by Genoa and Verona. And they got a draw against Torino and Salernitana. Roma performance is really not stable in this season, they often got bad results against smaller teams. Since there was a rumor about Mourinho problems with Roma management and players, their performance look difficult to consistently.

Sure, Roma should be superior against Servette. But they failed to win the match, Mourinho may apply the wrong tactic. Missing 3 points in the match, they must struggle to get full points in the last match. And they expect that Slavia Praha to be defeated in the last match. It is the only scenario for As Roma to return to the 1st place.

In the domestic league, Roma has currently experienced quite good improvement, even though initially Roma experienced a slightly bad start to the season, if later Roma does not qualify for the next round, at least Roma can focus on the domestic league to continue their good performance because currently Jose Mourinho is struggling to place Roma is in the top 5 in Serie A.

This season is an unlucky season for Roma in the Europa League and Roma seems to be having difficulty getting points overall and Roma has quite strong competitors in group G, a draw against Servette is an unsatisfactory result for Roma fans and for the team coached by Jose Mourinho because it is very likely that Roma will be in 2nd place to take part in the play off round and not advance to the next round in the European league. The only hope is that in the next match when facing Sheriff Roma can achieve victory but with the hope that Slavia Praha will not win the current match facing Servette, even though we definitely guess that Slavia Praha will win it like the previous match because Slavia Praha really wants to advance to the next round in the European league.

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Quote from: borovichok on December 01, 2023, 11:16:36 PM

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This season have been the very worst sets for Ajax, poor stats and performance, a way that it dissapoints their supporters. Ajax are struggling to crawl and then run back to de Godenzonen. Recording streak defeats matches and battling to accumulate three points against teams one could easily win without any difficulty now becomes the club Ajax struggles to win. This football is very unbalanced because an elite team can turn to be the flop club today and tomorrow, the mediocre team will grow to become the most dominated clubs and gives hugh headaches to these elite clubs in competitive race.

Ajax is in the bottom position in group B and in 5 matches they have not been able to get single win, this is tough season for Ajax and it is certain that they will not be able to stay in the Europa League competition for long.
I don't know what happened to Ajax but their appearance is very different from last season, when you see them play it also shows how messy the playing formation is from the front line to the defense, no one shows the quality of playing well.
In the previous season Ajax could even play well in the UCL but now for the Europa League and also the Eredivisie they can't do it like before.

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Already Sevilla performs more better when they are in the Europa league so moving to the Europa league will be more preferable for them since they are more accustomed to the play nature of the Europa league rather than the Champions league but notwithstanding that, Sevilla have really been in bad form this season even in their domestic league la Liga, and the UEFA champions league, hope they do better when they move to the Europa competition. It's really sad to see a competitive club like Sevilla that competites with bigger teams in the Spanish la Liga is struggling in the league this season to the extent of being in the 15th position of the La Liga table. Just hope they bounce back to form as their performance so far is not applaudable.

Sevilla has been unlucky this season due to playing in the Champions League, now they are in an unlucky position in the group stage. The Last Match will be a tough match for Sevilla, especially since they will play at Lens headquarters, who are also eyeing a ticket to the Europa League.
Last season Sevilla also performed less consistently in La Liga, but they were able to show consistent performance in the Europa League and managed to win the trophy. This season's Europa League will have a new champion, Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen are in their best form, these two teams are the strongest candidates to win the Europa League this season.

In the last match, Sevilla only hope was to get Europa League ticket and play well there like last season.
The UCL is complicated competition for team like Sevilla and of course there will be lot of competition which means Sevilla has little chance of qualifying for the next round.
This is why they only need to get a win to be able to take 3rd place and play in the Europa League.
There will be more interesting competition and matches this season unlike last season and this is quite an interesting season for the European League because there are more strong ticks there.

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Quote from: Richbased on December 01, 2023, 12:00:58 PM

Already Sevilla performs more better when they are in the Europa league so moving to the Europa league will be more preferable for them since they are more accustomed to the play nature of the Europa league rather than the Champions league but notwithstanding that, Sevilla have really been in bad form this season even in their domestic league la Liga, and the UEFA champions league, hope they do better when they move to the Europa competition. It's really sad to see a competitive club like Sevilla that competites with bigger teams in the Spanish la Liga is struggling in the league this season to the extent of being in the 15th position of the La Liga table. Just hope they bounce back to form as their performance so far is not applaudable.

Sevilla has been unlucky this season due to playing in the Champions League, now they are in an unlucky position in the group stage. The Last Match will be a tough match for Sevilla, especially since they will play at Lens headquarters, who are also eyeing a ticket to the Europa League.
Last season Sevilla also performed less consistently in La Liga, but they were able to show consistent performance in the Europa League and managed to win the trophy. This season's Europa League will have a new champion, Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen are in their best form, these two teams are the strongest candidates to win the Europa League this season.

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Quote from: DanWalker on December 01, 2023, 10:11:08 PM

Ajax at least looks to be improving right now. In the last few matches, even though they have not been able to win many, they at least have been able to avoid losses. So that is going to give them good confidence going forward. But it is definitely not going to be easy. they also have some relatively tough matches coming ahead. They will have to make sure that they will not lose those matches. They will have to get at least one point from those. From the upcoming three matches, I expect them to get at least five points. Even if they get three points, it is going to be okay. But if they lose one they will need to win the other two. I am talking about only the upcoming three matches by the way.

This season have been the very worst sets for Ajax, poor stats and performance, a way that it dissapoints their supporters. Ajax are struggling to crawl and then run back to de Godenzonen. Recording streak defeats matches and battling to accumulate three points against teams one could easily win without any difficulty now becomes the club Ajax struggles to win. This football is very unbalanced because an elite team can turn to be the flop club today and tomorrow, the mediocre team will grow to become the most dominated clubs and gives hugh headaches to these elite clubs in competitive race.

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Quote from: topbitcoin on December 01, 2023, 01:29:42 PM

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I think the poor results that Ajax has this season I guess, are more disappointing results that Ajax has in the local league. Because anyway, if we compare it with the Europa League, then I think even though Ajax failed also in Europa League, but it is more disappointing the results that Ajax got in the domestic league. Because after all, Ajax is a team that always competes in the title race with PSV there in every season but in this season, Ajax started from the relegation zone, but now Ajax has managed to recover its position slowly. But about Ajax in the Europa League, for me the result remains a reasonable result because yes, at least Ajax also still has a chance to be able to finish in third place because in the last match Ajax will play at home against AEK. So yes, if Ajax manages to beat AEK in the last match later, then Ajax will finish in third place and will enter to the playoff round to continue in the Conference League.

Ajax's reshuffling of their palyer due to several departures has made it increasingly difficult for them to maintain a consistent attack.
We know that in the last 2 season a lot of stars have left such as Haller, Antony or Martinez which makes it difficult for them to control their performance and this season they are getting worse. Even though they are one of my favorites but indeed this season in the European League they played very badly.
5 games without a win and only 2 point is really very bad for them at the moment and the last match is also actually hopeless but at least they must still win 1 victory so that the mentality of the players is not too destroyed.

Ajax at least looks to be improving right now. In the last few matches, even though they have not been able to win many, they at least have been able to avoid losses. So that is going to give them good confidence going forward. But it is definitely not going to be easy. they also have some relatively tough matches coming ahead. They will have to make sure that they will not lose those matches. They will have to get at least one point from those. From the upcoming three matches, I expect them to get at least five points. Even if they get three points, it is going to be okay. But if they lose one they will need to win the other two. I am talking about only the upcoming three matches by the way.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on November 30, 2023, 01:05:55 PM

DO you expected with Sevilla come back to Europe League after failure with Champion League? I want to see Sevilla appearance become the winner two consecutives time with Europe League trophies, but need magician if can take three points away against Lens automatically will get one spot trough playoff round ticket.

Sevilla is a team that is currently dominated by old players. The intensity of the matches in UCL is fast tempo. The average player is over 30 years old, of course some of their physiques may no longer be able to face young opposing players. I think, This is the cause of Sevilla decline in performance. If Sevilla loses in the last match, then there will no longer be a chance for Sevilla to play in UEL. This reminds of Milan's tragedy when they were too comfortable with old players in the past and struggling in domestic and even absence for UCL for a long time.

I guess this season Sevilla is facing the truth because to be honest, how likely is it that a season when they are so bad in La Liga ends with the Europa League title and the Champions League participation?

Just look how long they haven't won any title in La Liga and now they are going to feel the consequences. I think there is no backdoor for them this time and Lens tied the game against them in Spain. They now need to tie it again and will instead go to the Europa League. It would be a surprise if Sevilla makes it, and it would also be fun but I don't believe they will do it this year.

If Sevilla manage to beat Lens in the last match of the group phase, then Sevilla will finish in third place. If that happens, then of course Sevilla will return to playing in the Europa League in this knockout phase. But yes, even if for example Sevilla returns to playing in the Europa League, but it is unlikely that Sevilla will have the same luck as last season. Because ya, we have realized that the Europa League this season has strong candidates for the trophy and thus, if Sevilla does not get lucky then it is impossible for Sevilla to get the Europa League trophy again. Because yes, basically the competition in this season is more difficult and also, the big teams in the Europa League have also certainly realized the Sevilla scenario which will certainly be a serious consideration as well.

They had strong candidates last season as well, but Sevilla did show a different face in the Europa League and outplayed teams like Manchester United and I think Juventus Turin, but even with some fantasy I don't believe that Sevilla could do the same thing again. Last season they have done pretty well in most of the Europa League games, but this time they are bad in all competitions. Switching gears seems to not be possible for them and they are having the same problems in La Liga again.

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Quote from: $anounimus$ on December 01, 2023, 12:29:14 PM

Roma should have been able to maximize the match against Servette, but again Mourinho's troops were unable to do much in front of their opponent. In fact, if we look at the player material, the Gialllorossi are far superior. However, Roma of course still has the opportunity to get three points in the last match against Sheriff, but if Slavia Prague also manages to get full points then Lukaku's steps will be very difficult because they have to survive through the playoffs. Mourinho should have avoided a situation like that because the unstable performance of his troops would certainly make fans very worried.

It is not surprising that Roma failed to get points against weaker teams in Europa League. It is not the first time Roma got a defeat by average teams. In Serie A, they were defeated by Genoa and Verona. And they got a draw against Torino and Salernitana. Roma performance is really not stable in this season, they often got bad results against smaller teams. Since there was a rumor about Mourinho problems with Roma management and players, their performance look difficult to consistently.

Sure, Roma should be superior against Servette. But they failed to win the match, Mourinho may apply the wrong tactic. Missing 3 points in the match, they must struggle to get full points in the last match. And they expect that Slavia Praha to be defeated in the last match. It is the only scenario for As Roma to return to the 1st place.

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Quote from: un_rank on December 01, 2023, 03:10:00 PM

Quote from: Jossque on December 01, 2023, 02:56:08 PM

Although AEK Athens had more possession and played more ball, the away team, who had more experienced and experienced players, managed to win the match.

AEK were the better team during the whole sequence of play before Brighton won the penalty and also after that. They were really unlucky not to come away with even a point from the match and will rue their missed chances.

Brighton did not really have experienced players, this is their first time playing in Europe and they have a very, very young squad. They also have a lot of injured players which further weakens their squad.

Let's see how far they go in this competition.

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AEK Athens seem somehow good in performance too because they have actually made an effort on this season Europa because if you check there matches they have played this season even if they had some losing but they are quite impressive because some of there matches they won I never believe that they can be able to win those matches.

However there last match against Brighton they really posed a threat to Brighton because it was quite difficult for Brighton but they manage to finally scored at 55 minutes but however if not for the red card Athens had they would have almost draw the match.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on December 01, 2023, 12:14:23 PM

Although they had more possession of the ball, they lost to Servette in terms of chances, their defense had problems that made them like this, not only that, but their front line also lacked creativity so that when they got stuck they didn't find other gaps to go deeper.
Actualy now they are safe from the group stage, it's just that the worst possibility is that they can't qualify directly for the last 16 and still have to play the play offs. And when that happens they will have to wait to see whether or not they will face a stronger opponent in the play offs.

Servette did made it a hard game for Roma as their defense line wan tighten regardless of the fact that Roma had the ball most of the time, they found it really difficult penetrating the defense well enough to get good number of goal except for the only goal they had I'm the first half.

After which the second half of the game was dominated by servette and Roma had to protect their only goal.but not well enough and servette secured a goal and a point from Roma , they did made their visitors uncomfortable and not to feel at home but then if not for the recent inconsistency with the present performance of Roma, they should be able to win their opponent with little or no stress.

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With the defeat at home, Sturm Graz perhaps refused to go out of the group in 2nd place.We can say that their opponent Rakow showed a better performance throughout the match.Rakow has actually shown to the other candidates that they have a chance to finish 3rd in the group by defeating Sturm Graz.They will now do their best in the last match to finish 3rd in the group.
In the other match of the group, Atalanta and Sporting drew and shared the points.It should not be difficult to say that both teams did not play well and perhaps played for a draw from the beginning to the end of the match.They did not attack much and did not get into goal positions.

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