UEFA Europa League 2024/25 Season - page 169.

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Quote from: Lidger on September 13, 2024, 07:37:55 AM

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League.

But, Liverpool lose against the champion aka Atalanta lol, so technically it's not that surprising Liverpool lose, although we were surprised at that time.

This time it seems there are not many strong teams in Europa League, Roma without Mourinho is nothing, Real Sociedad perform bad recently, only Porto, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray are likely become an underdog.

Even though Manchester United lose two times in Premier League, but you shouldn't forget if they lose against Brighton and Liverpool, both of them are strong.

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Quote from: Miles2006 on September 12, 2024, 06:01:31 PM

Victor Osimhen had other intentions we clearly don’t know or the contract with Chelsea never suit his personality. Victor osimhen going for Galatasaray shows he will not stay long even if he didn’t make any sign we all know he’ll need a better team for more competition also as a young player he need more support. I’m not saying Galatasaray can’t support but, compared with other teams definitely Victor Osimhen needs something more better that can help shape his football experience more and I think Chelsea is not in a better position currently.

Actually Victor Osimhen could be more suitable to be in the Premier League even though it is not a team like Chelsea, but the problem is that there are no teams from the Premier League who want to take him so he has to dock at Galatasaray and in general it is also not better for him because he has to be in the Turkish League which in terms of competitiveness is still very far from the Premier League. But Osimhen must continue his career at his current age so that he has the opportunity to move back to the team he likes after his contract ends with Galatasaray.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on September 12, 2024, 10:27:34 AM

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Although Manchester United and Tottenham are the two top Premier League teams which playing in the Europa League this season, but I personally am not at all sure for them to win the trophy. Because I still make a benchmark for last season about Liverpool because anyway, when Liverpool became a very favorite team also that Liverpool was still in the title race in the Premier League standings but Liverpool still failed in the Europa League in last season.

I don't think either of Manchester United or Tottenham are among the favourites to win the Europa League. They struggle with average teams how are they going to do when they face tough opponents? Manchester faced Liverpool at home and got slapped 3 goals without reply, how would it have been if they had been away at Anfield that day?
Tottenham have not been able to win Leicester City and Newcastle this season, I don't see them as a team that can go all the way in The Europa.

When people mention the top teams in the Europa, they include Manchester United because they're a big team, but based on current form, there are at least 5 clubs way better than Manchester United.
The good thing about the Europa League is that the winner is mostly unpredictable. It's not like the Champions League where you can mention one of the top 5 teams and have a 95% chance of getting the winner.

Manchester United or Tottenham have qualified for the European League, but their chances of winning the European League title are not very high. Manchester United were early favourites, just like we had Liverpool last season, but last season Liverpool performed much worse than expected and crashed out of the Europa League. Manchester United have failed to perform well in most of the matches they have played in the recent season. If they perform the same in the Europa League tournament as they have done in a few league matches, they won't be able to go far with this performance. Still, since there is still time to plan, they should plan and try to move forward by performing well. The two teams that performed well last season are not in this season's Europa League, so if they can perform a little better, they will have a chance.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on September 12, 2024, 11:32:47 AM

It's not all of bookies were favoring Manchester United. In stake, Tottenham Hotspur has become the most favorite club to get the Europa League trophy. But i consider the Europa League is far harder to predict compared to the UCL.

I meant that the result from this competition is very random. Last season, none predicted Atalanta would get the trophy, but they made it.

This time is gonna be the same as last season. However, UCL teams won't drop to the Europa League, but the atmosphere is still the same. It's even getting more difficult to predict.

But i think these are very strong candidates to win the competition.

1. Manchester United

2. Porto

3. Roma

It's. Wey easy to want to see Tottenham win the Europa as against Manchester United due to their differences in consistency, normally, looking from last season till this seasons results, saying Manchester United is going to win will definitely be in doubt much more than you would with Tottenham that had a pattern they have been able to maintain, so I understand where all of the support for Tottenham was coming from, because they have earned it but again it's really difficult telling accurately who's going to win the Europa because like you said the results are really random that an underdog be be sen leading ahead of the A-listers.

If the competition has not started we will find it difficult to guess now because the clubs that are favored from the start have not fully guaranteed that they will win the trophy, the proof is Liverpool and Leverkusen last season who were highly favored by many people but who would have thought that the winner would not be one of them so let's see what the journey of the Europa League this season is like we see until the last 16 we will start guessing through their appearance through this early round if clubs like Roma, Manchester United and Tottenham are still surviving maybe one of them will bring home this trophy.

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Quote from: AYOBA on September 12, 2024, 02:34:07 PM

Osimhen have too much love for Napoli that’s even when Chelsea brings request that they want to signing him to their team he was not bothered, and that’s even Napoli was show not accept the their request because they want victor Osimhem to remain and continue play for the club; because they seen him as a great player.

So far so good as victor Osimhen as final go to the Galatasaray let see how he can make the team changes to better standard, I will not say that it will know going to achieve anything there since everyone have his own mindset and from the news the given that Osimhen only go to Galatasaray for the main time, that means it will not stay long in that club.

Victor Osimhen had other intentions we clearly don’t know or the contract with Chelsea never suit his personality. Victor osimhen going for Galatasaray shows he will not stay long even if he didn’t make any sign we all know he’ll need a better team for more competition also as a young player he need more support. I’m not saying Galatasaray can’t support but, compared with other teams definitely Victor Osimhen needs something more better that can help shape his football experience more and I think Chelsea is not in a better position currently.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on September 12, 2024, 11:32:47 AM

It's not all of bookies were favoring Manchester United. In stake, Tottenham Hotspur has become the most favorite club to get the Europa League trophy. But i consider the Europa League is far harder to predict compared to the UCL.

I meant that the result from this competition is very random. Last season, none predicted Atalanta would get the trophy, but they made it.

This time is gonna be the same as last season. However, UCL teams won't drop to the Europa League, but the atmosphere is still the same. It's even getting more difficult to predict.

But i think these are very strong candidates to win the competition.

1. Manchester United

2. Porto

3. Roma

It's. Wey easy to want to see Tottenham win the Europa as against Manchester United due to their differences in consistency, normally, looking from last season till this seasons results, saying Manchester United is going to win will definitely be in doubt much more than you would with Tottenham that had a pattern they have been able to maintain, so I understand where all of the support for Tottenham was coming from, because they have earned it but again it's really difficult telling accurately who's going to win the Europa because like you said the results are really random that an underdog be be sen leading ahead of the A-listers.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on September 12, 2024, 09:43:30 AM

Yeah I think that's the main reason because Napoli were too much greedy although I believe they did all not even because of the cash but due to the fact they really wanted him stay and play for the club of which if he had a better relationship with the club he would have done that but they really pissed him off with the social media scandal and also frustrated the hell out of the striker when he tried moving out of the club .

It was good he left the club, if not he might have still been convinced to play for them before the end of the season if they don’t see the impact of the new striker they signed. I felt pity for him because of how he was treated and frustrated out of the club even though he was amongst the major players that lead Napoli to their first ever Scudetto title win. It was not fair the way he was treated but it’s good to see him play in the Turkish league under Galatasaray. He’ll indeed do very well there.

Quote from: Alpha Marine on September 12, 2024, 10:27:34 AM

I don't think either of Manchester United or Tottenham are among the favourites to win the Europa League. They struggle with average teams how are they going to do when they face tough opponents? Manchester faced Liverpool at home and got slapped 3 goals without reply, how would it have been if they had been away at Anfield that day?
Tottenham have not been able to win Leicester City and Newcastle this season, I don't see them as a team that can go all the way in The Europa.

The Europa league might be a different competition totally but we can’t still disregard your facts about how this teams will perform in the Europa league and seen as one of the best for the Europa league title. The Europa League may require a more serious challenge and requires all team to improve more in their performance if they want to prevail in the competition. So for now, we can’t say which team would be the better choice for the title until we see how the teams will farewell in this competition.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 12, 2024, 04:15:16 PM

Here is the schedule for Galatasaray:

We are the luckiest Turkish team among the ones joined the Europa League. Grin

Here I can call Tottenham as a huge threat because they are even favoured for the trophy the most. Even though we are playing home against them, we still look likely to lose to them. But no problem at all about that. Because the rest of the draw is pretty good anyway.

Ajax would be another team to compete hard against us but we should be able to show our strength easier to the remaining ones. If we can't collect so many points in this fixture then we had better quit already. Tongue

Tottenham, Ajax, Malmo and Dynamo Kyiv are tough tests for Galatasaray, the other four opponents can be categorized as easier to overcome. At first glance, I think Galatasaray will be able to finish in the top 8 of the standings, so that the Turkish representative will automatically qualify for the round of 16. It doesn't matter if they lose against Tottenham, they can maximize all their potential when facing other competitors. Ajax currently still looks very unstable, they are still experiencing ups and downs in performance. On paper, with the depth of the squad they currently have, Galatasaray should be able to talk a lot in the Europa League. Manchester United were once made helpless in the Champions League group stage last season, it is possible that Tottenham will also be defeated even though they are favored. Acting as the host will certainly be a fortune in itself, it should be able to bring benefits to Mauro Icardi and his colleagues.

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Quote from: AYOBA on September 12, 2024, 02:34:07 PM

Osimhen have too much love for Napoli that’s even when Chelsea brings request that they want to signing him to their team he was not bothered, and that’s even Napoli was show not accept the their request because they want victor Osimhem to remain and continue play for the club; because they seen him as a great player.

So far so good as victor Osimhen as final go to the Galatasaray let see how he can make the team changes to better standard, I will not say that it will know going to achieve anything there since everyone have his own mindset and from the news the given that Osimhen only go to Galatasaray for the main time, that means it will not stay long in that club.

This wasn't the case right there which played out with Osimhen and Napoli in that transfer saga between Chelsea and Osimhen, I watch Mikel narration of this transfer story because, according to him the video clip I watch he was the middle in this deal between Napoli, Osimhen and Chelsea trying to land Osimhen at Chelsea, but all necessary efforts were blocked by Napoli management to frustrate the deal and not allow Osimhen to leave at the moment, even to the extent they requested more 5 million pounds to be added, even Osimhen said the money should be deducted from his own side of money, but yet other stories came up. He wasn't the one who rejected Chelsea offer and neither because he so much love Napoli.

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Quote from: Weawant on September 12, 2024, 10:35:01 AM

Quote from: Rampagoe004 on September 11, 2024, 11:53:27 PM

Osimhen has now got a team that can make him more confident and make him play as a core player in the new team. Osimhen seems no longer needed as long as the new coach replaces him with Lukaku so he has to adjust to the new team, Osimhen needs a good performance to make a name for himself as a player that the team needs in a core position with a more aggressive physique when playing in matches, I doubt if Osimhen wants to go to the Saudi Pro League because there is still a chance to play in the team he is currently contracted with, hopefully Osimhen can play well and win League with success in 2024/2025.

Looking at the last time I saw him on a video at his new team, it appears like he's not finding it challenging back there and obviously liking where he's at currently and would do as much a s he can to staying there and further his career and making sure he's not going to have to really be under any form of pressure to get anything done as he would have probably elsewhere due to the expectations that would have been placed on him in the regards that he's sending as a to clas player going by his records so far. The lukaku as a replacement for osimhen doesn't seem to Napoli like a bad swap but with time most likely we would get to see and know if it was a good deal enough to be considered a perfect replacement but in the meantime lets hope for the best for them.

Osimhen is happy with the clubs he is with currently and that will boost up his performance because he will be playong with rest of mind and that will make him to be able to put up his best performance in the club. Unlike when he was sad in Napoli and that demoralized his passion for the club which affected his performance.

If you look at it from the other side, Lukaku is getting old and weak amd in no time he might decline in performance and that will still affect Napoli. Conte is pleased with Lukaku as a striker because he believes in his potentials as the man that's fit for the job but i would have preferred Osimhen because he is younger.

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Quote from: AYOBA on September 12, 2024, 02:34:07 PM

Osimhen have too much love for Napoli that’s even when Chelsea brings request that they want to signing him to their team he was not bothered, and that’s even Napoli was show not accept the their request because they want victor Osimhem to remain and continue play for the club; because they seen him as a great player.

What are you saying as that isn't what happened. Napoli wanted to frustrate Victor Osimhen which they achieved but he was smart to not remain at the club as he knew if he does so, he won't be able to play for the remaining of the season and that would have made his current worth to reduced but as he'll be playing for Galatasaray in the Europa league, he still will be talked about as he keep performing well and this can make him finally get a move to a top club. Napoli wanted Victor Osimhen to not get a club and not like they wanted him to stay so he can play for them. He almost got a move to Saudi Arabia but Napoli made that deal to fail and same thing might have happened to other offers.

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Here is the schedule for Galatasaray:

We are the luckiest Turkish team among the ones joined the Europa League. Grin

Here I can call Tottenham as a huge threat because they are even favoured for the trophy the most. Even though we are playing home against them, we still look likely to lose to them. But no problem at all about that. Because the rest of the draw is pretty good anyway.

Ajax would be another team to compete hard against us but we should be able to show our strength easier to the remaining ones. If we can't collect so many points in this fixture then we had better quit already. Tongue

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Quote from: Moreno233 on September 11, 2024, 06:49:20 PM

I don't think he went to Galatasaray to achieve anything serious but just to go away from Napoli who were bent on frustrating him. Osimhen going to Galatasaray is just a short term something and I expect that by January transfer window he will be considering moving to Chelsea that seems to be his preferred club. He will however, want to make some impact in Galatasaray as a great player, but he definitely will not be dreaming of winning any big title there.

Well, I was surprised that Chelsea didn't request him quickly for their ranks, but it's something that only they in Europe could explain, I have no idea what would have happened there, however this is something that the player is doing and even if it is in the short term for this team, if he does really well I don't think Galatasaray will let him go so easily, besides they are in a very good position, they are in the UCL and they can make the difference, what they achieved in the UCL was great, however this is the opportunity that the player has to show his worth, I'm sure that in this season alone he can show a lot.

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I can't wait to see him make his first debut in the Turkish League and he also had the opportunity to play in the UEFA European League if he was in Napoli he did not play in UEFA this season because last season Napoli finished ranked 10, looks like he will provide competitive competition in the European League this season with Galatasaray.

Well this is a unique opportunity for the player, at Napoli in the UCL he couldn't do anything because the team was in its worst phase, and it is something that seems to be very difficult because they were winning Serie A , however, that is something that happened, now with Galatasaray things can be different and things can change, I personally think that now this player here will have much more vision and I am sure that everyone will play in favor of him so that he can shine, as long as he scores goals I think that a team should help a player.

I don't think he went to Galatasaray to achieve anything serious but just to go away from Napoli who were bent on frustrating him. Osimhen going to Galatasaray is just a short term something and I expect that by January transfer window he will be considering moving to Chelsea that seems to be his preferred club. He will however, want to make some impact in Galatasaray as a great player, but he definitely will not be dreaming of winning any big title there.

Yeah I think that's the main reason because Napoli were too much greedy although I believe they did all not even because of the cash but due to the fact they really wanted him stay and play for the club of which if he had a better relationship with the club he would have done that but they really pissed him off with the social media scandal and also frustrated the hell out of the striker when he tried moving out of the club .

Osimhen have too much love for Napoli that’s even when Chelsea brings request that they want to signing him to their team he was not bothered, and that’s even Napoli was show not accept the their request because they want victor Osimhem to remain and continue play for the club; because they seen him as a great player.

So far so good as victor Osimhen as final go to the Galatasaray let see how he can make the team changes to better standard, I will not say that it will know going to achieve anything there since everyone have his own mindset and from the news the given that Osimhen only go to Galatasaray for the main time, that means it will not stay long in that club.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on September 12, 2024, 11:32:47 AM

It's not all of bookies were favoring Manchester United. In stake, Tottenham Hotspur has become the most favorite club to get the Europa League trophy. But i consider the Europa League is far harder to predict compared to the UCL.

I meant that the result from this competition is very random. Last season, none predicted Atalanta would get the trophy, but they made it.

This time is gonna be the same as last season. However, UCL teams won't drop to the Europa League, but the atmosphere is still the same. It's even getting more difficult to predict.

But i think these are very strong candidates to win the competition.

1. Manchester United

2. Porto

3. Roma

Although Atalanta did wonders last season, I think few people believe Tottenham can do the same. Along the way, the predictions can change again, the performance of each contestant in domestic competitions can affect their chances in the Europa League, although sometimes some clubs are able to create different performances. Apart from Man United, Porto and AS Roma, Galatasaray is also worth considering. Not without reason, this season they have a number of quality players in their squad. The arrival of Osimhen has increased expectations for them, as has the other Turkish representative Fenerbahce who this season is handled by Mourinho.

Throughout its history, the Europa League has indeed been filled with many surprises, and generally many favorite teams have fallen to mediocre clubs. With the Champions League relegation system no longer in effect, the Europa League will present a balanced competition, where the atmosphere will not be much different from before. For a team like Tottenham, winning the Europa League trophy feels easier than finishing in the top four of the Premier League standings, so it is understandable if Ange will prioritize the Europa League trophy to win.

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Quote from: Weawant on September 12, 2024, 10:35:01 AM

Looking at the last time I saw him on a video at his new team, it appears like he's not finding it challenging back there and obviously liking where he's at currently and would do as much a s he can to staying there and further his career and making sure he's not going to have to really be under any form of pressure to get anything done as he would have probably elsewhere due to the expectations that would have been placed on him in the regards that he's sending as a to clas player going by his records so far. The lukaku as a replacement for osimhen doesn't seem to Napoli like a bad swap but with time most likely we would get to see and know if it was a good deal enough to be considered a perfect replacement but in the meantime lets hope for the best for them.

I feel like as long as he can play at Galatasaray and score bunch of goals there too, then he will have some proof that he is worth the money. For that one season he was amazing, but after that he became not that amazing, most said that it's because he doesn't get along with the team anymore and the fact that he just rejected the team all together this year and forced to get out and was left out of the squad proves that he is definitely not getting along with the team.

So if he scores a lot of goals at Galatasaray, he will have easier time leaving for another team, and he will get paid a lot of money as well but that requires him to play great this season. If he fails and plays terribly, then it could be hard to get any team to be interested in him, hence why he has a lot of risk right now. We should consider this to be very important, he needs to play the best season of his life, needs to score 30+ goals in all competitions total so he would be seen as good.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 11, 2024, 08:01:27 AM

Who is your favourite for the Europa League winner for this season? Huh

As the odds are already out I assume you have some teams on your mind. I know it is very early in the season to make such predictions. However it is a little easier than before because of one specific reason. Teams cannot drop down to the Europa League or drop from it to the Conference League anymore.

So the winner of that trophy is going to be one of the current teams available here.

Bookies show Manchester United as one of top favourites. But I doubt it too much unless they improve. Tottenham are seen as the team with the most chance for now. Do you agree? I personally do.

It's not all of bookies were favoring Manchester United. In stake, Tottenham Hotspur has become the most favorite club to get the Europa League trophy. But i consider the Europa League is far harder to predict compared to the UCL.

I meant that the result from this competition is very random. Last season, none predicted Atalanta would get the trophy, but they made it.

This time is gonna be the same as last season. However, UCL teams won't drop to the Europa League, but the atmosphere is still the same. It's even getting more difficult to predict.

But i think these are very strong candidates to win the competition.

1. Manchester United

2. Porto

3. Roma

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Quote from: len01 on September 12, 2024, 06:48:01 AM

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Yes, that's right. Maybe it's still too early to judge which team will win the match later because of course after the international break both teams will experience many changes, especially before the two teams meet they have to play their respective domestic matches, AS Roma will play against Geneo and Udinese and Bilbao will play against Las Palmas, Legenes and Celta Vigo. Maybe after the domestic match we can predict the game of these two teams, because of course the influence after the domestic match is also a major factor in predicting a team because both teams will have many changes including team confidence.

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Exactly, by looking at the performance in the domestic league before the appearance in this competition, it becomes one of our alternatives to predict the results in the upcoming european league matches. If Roma cannot beat Udinese and Genoa, maybe I will believe more that Roma does not have another chance in the european league because mentally in the domestic league, Roma players are not ready to face this season. While the challenges in the european league will be tougher than in the domestic league. This time De Rossi really feels how difficult it is to manage the Roma squad. And if this fails, everyone will be very disappointed after praising De Rossi last season.

It seems that AS Roma and Bilbao are on the same level, so any result is still very possible for their match later in the Europa League. But even so, when De Rossi managed to make AS Roma get good results in their first matches last season, I think De Rossi really has the ability to make AS Roma back in the top rankings in Serie A. But in reality, it is still not as easy as expected, because at the beginning of this season AS Roma also did not have good results in Serie A and so did Bilbao in the La Liga standings.

With the results they got in the domestic league, of course no one can really guarantee a good result for their match later in the Europa League. Because I think, even though AS Roma is playing at home, it is still not a guarantee for AS Roma to win. But with that, it is possible that they will end the match with a draw, who knows.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on September 11, 2024, 11:53:27 PM

Osimhen has now got a team that can make him more confident and make him play as a core player in the new team. Osimhen seems no longer needed as long as the new coach replaces him with Lukaku so he has to adjust to the new team, Osimhen needs a good performance to make a name for himself as a player that the team needs in a core position with a more aggressive physique when playing in matches, I doubt if Osimhen wants to go to the Saudi Pro League because there is still a chance to play in the team he is currently contracted with, hopefully Osimhen can play well and win League with success in 2024/2025.

Looking at the last time I saw him on a video at his new team, it appears like he's not finding it challenging back there and obviously liking where he's at currently and would do as much a s he can to staying there and further his career and making sure he's not going to have to really be under any form of pressure to get anything done as he would have probably elsewhere due to the expectations that would have been placed on him in the regards that he's sending as a to clas player going by his records so far. The lukaku as a replacement for osimhen doesn't seem to Napoli like a bad swap but with time most likely we would get to see and know if it was a good deal enough to be considered a perfect replacement but in the meantime lets hope for the best for them.

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Normally i always like the performance of Roma but now I can't rely on them because they can easily disappoint and beside is only a team that has a strong zeel of wining people can rely on but definitely not Roma at the moment and secondly that match will be there first match of the Europa league stage and one thing I no about first matches is that it can be very tough to predict, though I really don't no if there would be a positive improvement on Roma but we are still uncertain but in the aspect of Bilbao they always maintain a good results but we cannot also be sure that they are the best suitable to win there match against Roma, I'm sure this is the kind of match gamblers wouldn't like to risk there money on.

Bilbao, on the other hand, is more stable in performance but does not guarantee winning against Roma. Both teams have strong points and weak points; this makes the race very hard to predict.

To gamblers, games such as this one are indeed very risky for there is no assurance of who would win. Therefore, being keen on staking in hard-to-foretell matches is a caution that is good.

In matches like this one the best way is not to bet for a straight win since is gonna be there first match of the league and they will be trying to adapt to the new season, so in this case the best option to consider will be over 1.5 method because even if we may not really no who will win but I have no doubt that they will score more than one goals or possibly both team to score because there would always be a retaliation from the opposite side that scored, though I cannot guarantee the game will play that way but that's the method in terms of betting on the game that seems to be a little bit certain but Bilbao will pull a serious tackle against Roma.

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