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Quote from: bitLeap on October 16, 2024, 07:14:46 AM

Although it is still quite a long time but it feels interesting to discuss how José Mourinho will welcome his former club Man United at Fenerbahçe headquarters. There will be many things that are certainly awaited by both supporters, considering that for Mourinho it should not be difficult to beat Man United whose current condition is not scary for any club. An opportunity for the Fenerbahçe club to give their best game.

What do you think? is this match worth waiting for?

It's very exciting to see Mourinho face his former club. His club is being unfavored in this game, but i still see them equally. I think he will do something to ensure his team can beat United. The latest news reports he is experimenting with a three-back formation. He may use it to fight against his former club.

As for the odds, Fenerbahce is not far behind Manchester United. They are a Turkish club with no big name. But, they have only a small gap to Manchester United. It shows how bookies are also feeling so confident if they can steal point.

I guess Fenerbahce can steal a point if they park the bus against Manchester United. But, if they go all out on offense, it could backfire.

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Quote from: ndutndut on October 17, 2024, 03:47:27 PM

Man United, which is currently coached by Ten Hag, has not found its best performance, even several times he was rumored to be fired after Man United's performance did not improve. This is very different from Fenerbace who has coach Jose Morurinho. We know that Maourinho is very smart and clever in choosing and looking for players, even when his transfer budget is minimal, his eyes can really see which talent is right for the strategy he wants to implement. Jose Mourinho also when he comes to a club, it is certain that the club will experience significant improvement. So in conclusion I predict that this match will be won by Fenerbace with a narrow victory.

I see the match will be a draw again for both teams because I also don't think that Manchester United can win the match unless the Manchester United players really play very well and can create good opportunities to score goals. However, for now I am still a bit doubtful about Manchester United because in several matches they have played this season it has also been clear that they are still having a hard time getting a win in any match and maybe that will also happen in the away match with Fenerbahce.

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It’s been an off and on season for United. They have been mostly off this season, there is still lots of games to play so it is not yet over for Manchester United. This match will be an interesting one to watch because it’s former Manchester United manager Mourinho vs the current Manchester United manager Ten Hag. These two do not like each other, and would want to get a convincing win over the other. I believe Mourinho will have his revenge as Fenerbahçe are going to walk over United.

Quote from: bitLeap on October 16, 2024, 07:14:46 AM

Although it is still quite a long time but it feels interesting to discuss how José Mourinho will welcome his former club Man United at Fenerbahçe headquarters. There will be many things that are certainly awaited by both supporters, considering that for Mourinho it should not be difficult to beat Man United whose current condition is not scary for any club. An opportunity for the Fenerbahçe club to give their best game.

What do you think? is this match worth waiting for?

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Quote from: bitLeap on October 16, 2024, 07:14:46 AM

Although it is still quite a long time but it feels interesting to discuss how José Mourinho will welcome his former club Man United at Fenerbahçe headquarters. There will be many things that are certainly awaited by both supporters, considering that for Mourinho it should not be difficult to beat Man United whose current condition is not scary for any club. An opportunity for the Fenerbahçe club to give their best game.

What do you think? is this match worth waiting for?

There are almost no players left from the team that Mourinho coached at Manchester United, so it will be a different team and yes, it will be weaker than before. Fenerbahce is also not the strongest club and in the last round they could not beat Twente, so it is not worth saying that they are now definitely stronger than Manchester United, they also played a draw with Twente and with a more difficult opponent Porto. Ten Hag's position is very shaky, any defeat for him could be the last in Manchester United.

It would be an interesting match, seeing Jose Mourinho incharge of another team against his former employers, honestly it would be a sight to behold, I expect to see much drama and intriguing display both on the pitch and on the sidelines because these and many more are his characteristics especially his attitude of always complaining to the third official on the sidelines. Jose maurinho left Manchester United after being sacked by the club's management and ever since he has managed several other clubs like Tottenham Hotspur, As Roma and currently he is the head coach of the Turkish giants who will be hosting Manchester United next Friday in the Europa League.

The most important thing to behold in this game is the drama that will be displayed by the one and only special one Jose maurinho, the special one was a former Manchester United coach who has been a major contributor to some of the teams in England as he has managed 3 big teams in England before leaving to continue his coaching job in other league.

In the match between Manchester United and the Turkish giants, Jose Mourinho will show himself if his team is leading against United and he will also do his normal display if he is not in support of the officiating of the game either ways Jose Mourinho is the only person the football fans and the media will be focusing on because it is Manchester United against their former boss that is meeting after a long time.

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Quote from: EL MOHA on October 17, 2024, 05:24:48 PM

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I think this is a fair assessment, but still the odds for Tottenham to win will not be 1.2 but higher, something like 1.3-1.35. Bookmakers take into account that Tottenham already have 6 points and there is no great motivation to work hard in a secondary competition, while AZ Alkmaar only have 3 points, plus for them any game in European cups gives increased motivation, especially against big clubs (for AZ Alkmaar Tottenham is definitely a big club).

Tottenham are a club that sometimes loses to clubs you expect them to walk over, seriously I will say the odds club even be close to a 1.5 because AZ Alkmaar is also a regular European competitions participant so the club experience is their, the odd could be lower due to the match been hosted on Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. I don’t agree that Tottenham wouldn’t be taking this game seriously because let’s face it they haven’t qualified yet and even if they need maximum points to stay at the top so that they can get a more less competitive club in the next round, so Ange Postecoglu men will be coming out for the three full points
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Will see what quotes bookies give us. Now I'm surprised that the bookmakers where I usually look at it still don't have quotes. There is no desire to check information on other sites or local markets.
By the way, this season, due to the new format, the value of the title will seem to fall, but the price of each game will still increase - after all, this season there will be no additions from the Champions League and literally one of these not the strongest clubs will win the title.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 17, 2024, 01:26:59 PM

I think this is a fair assessment, but still the odds for Tottenham to win will not be 1.2 but higher, something like 1.3-1.35. Bookmakers take into account that Tottenham already have 6 points and there is no great motivation to work hard in a secondary competition, while AZ Alkmaar only have 3 points, plus for them any game in European cups gives increased motivation, especially against big clubs (for AZ Alkmaar Tottenham is definitely a big club).

Tottenham are a club that sometimes loses to clubs you expect them to walk over, seriously I will say the odds club even be close to a 1.5 because AZ Alkmaar is also a regular European competitions participant so the club experience is their, the odd could be lower due to the match been hosted on Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. I don’t agree that Tottenham wouldn’t be taking this game seriously because let’s face it they haven’t qualified yet and even if they need maximum points to stay at the top so that they can get a more less competitive club in the next round, so Ange Postecoglu men will be coming out for the three full points

Quote from: KingsDen on October 17, 2024, 04:59:31 PM

This you have expressed is what Manchester United management refuse to understand. I believe that the problem of Manchester United is more of psychological type than physical problem. The mentality of the players and the moral is somewhat low and that is why they will continue to produce mediocre results. This is because the manager is not on his toes. If the manager should acknowledge that his job is at risk, he will have no option than to pressurize the boys to produce best results. He will also be forced to try some other tactics that could be effective. It is because he is not being pressured and he is psychologically unaffected, that is why he will continue to use a method that is ineffective and trying to get something different from the old ineffective method. ETH still has good chances in the Europa league, but his chances are zero in the league.

In as much as I agree with you that the players are definitely not serious because it is the right word to use and that the manager himself is not too bothered about the situation although to me Ten Hag is just showing it to put off the pressure off the players but he himself knows he is under a serious pressure to win matches. This players remain my biggest concern they are looking like those setting up the manager to lose his job and I don’t buy the idea that he needs to tell them that they are under pressure before they get to improve their game,

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Quote from: lixer on October 17, 2024, 03:28:05 PM

The weird part is, Twente looks to me as a better club than Manchester United right now. Obviously when Manchester United plays with 100%, then we saw what they can do, it's been only a few months since they won against City to win the FA cup, so we know what they are capable of. But this is also the same team that has been terrible at premier league this season as well.

This you have expressed is what Manchester United management refuse to understand. I believe that the problem of Manchester United is more of psychological type than physical problem. The mentality of the players and the moral is somewhat low and that is why they will continue to produce mediocre results. This is because the manager is not on his toes. If the manager should acknowledge that his job is at risk, he will have no option than to pressurize the boys to produce best results. He will also be forced to try some other tactics that could be effective. It is because he is not being pressured and he is psychologically unaffected, that is why he will continue to use a method that is ineffective and trying to get something different from the old ineffective method. ETH still has good chances in the Europa league, but his chances are zero in the league.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 17, 2024, 04:55:09 PM

I don't think its going to be that really easy for Mourinho's boys to beat the red devils in this game, they may end in a draw or the devils get to beat them because the devil at this point is trying their best to see how they can redeem the poor performance they have had already since this season so another flaw they wouldn't permits will be the one to allow the Mourinho's boys get away with just some form of easy win in this game, even Fernaberche as a team isn't in their very best of form so there's actually no assurance they will do better than the red devils even though the are going to be hosting the red devils.

You're right. There is no way that someone assumes Mourinho's team to win easily against Man United. His statement sounds like too underestimate Man United, it is like Man United is a small team (mediocre). Cheesy

We know that Man United performed inconsistently, they are probably to miss points in Fenerbahce home, but it won't be an easy match for Fenerbahce. Man United actually has quality players, they only still can't play as a solid team. When they can play solidly, they could beat Man City (check the FA Cup final 2024).

Well, Fernaberche has the advantage because they will play at home. It will boost the morale or mentality of Fenerbahce players. However, I hope they won't be too confident when they play against a big team like Man United. Man United has quite strong attackers, specifically the wingers. They can destroy Fenerbahce defense if Mourinho can't calm his players and make the wrong tactics.

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Quote from: bitLeap on October 16, 2024, 07:14:46 AM

Although it is still quite a long time but it feels interesting to discuss how José Mourinho will welcome his former club Man United at Fenerbahçe headquarters. There will be many things that are certainly awaited by both supporters, considering that for Mourinho it should not be difficult to beat Man United whose current condition is not scary for any club. An opportunity for the Fenerbahçe club to give their best game.

What do you think? is this match worth waiting for?

Apart from this match being about a former club that Jose Mourinho once coached and the current club he's coaching now, Jose Mourinho is always careful when his team meets with any premier league teams so i feel that it will be a very tough game between Manchester united and Fenerbahce even though Manchester united is not in a good form. Jose Mourinho once met Manchester united in the Europa league in 2021 when he was Roma's coach and he won Manchester united while at home by 3:2 while Solskjaer the then Manchester united boss won them at Old Trafford by 6:2 which led to an aggregate of 8:5 in favor of Manchester united. Jose Mourinho won the Europa league trophy for Manchester united in 2017 when he was their head coach. I think Fenerbahce meeting Manchester united will be an interesting match to watch.

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Quote from: bitLeap on October 16, 2024, 07:14:46 AM

Although it is still quite a long time but it feels interesting to discuss how José Mourinho will welcome his former club Man United at Fenerbahçe headquarters. There will be many things that are certainly awaited by both supporters, considering that for Mourinho it should not be difficult to beat Man United whose current condition is not scary for any club. An opportunity for the Fenerbahçe club to give their best game.

What do you think? is this match worth waiting for?

I don't think its going to be that really easy for Mourinho's boys to beat the red devils in this game, they may end in a draw or the devils get to beat them because the devil at this point is trying their best to see how they can redeem the poor performance they have had already since this season so another flaw they wouldn't permits will be the one to allow the Mourinho's boys get away with just some form of easy win in this game, even Fernaberche as a team isn't in their very best of form so there's actually no assurance they will do better than the red devils even though the are going to be hosting the red devils.

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Quote from: lixer on October 17, 2024, 03:28:05 PM

The weird part is, Twente looks to me as a better club than Manchester United right now. Obviously when Manchester United plays with 100%, then we saw what they can do, it's been only a few months since they won against City to win the FA cup, so we know what they are capable of. But this is also the same team that has been terrible at premier league this season as well.

At least in the Europa League Twente are more realistic when they can't get 3 points then 1 point they have to get because they realize that their probability when compared to Manchester United or some clubs that are more experienced in big competitions is smaller so they just have to get points to try to compete for the next phase.

But this is different from Manchster United because when compared to some of the clubs that are in this competition then of course they are a club that is at a greater level, in terms of experience, the quality of the club and of course the players they have are far superior but in the end with everything they have it does not guarantee they don't get into trouble.

Facing Fenerbahce they still have the advantage of some things but with their quality now especially for performance problems, honestly 3 points for them I still doubt it even though they are quite a favorite in this match.

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There are almost no players left from the team that Mourinho coached at Manchester United, so it will be a different team and yes, it will be weaker than before. Fenerbahce is also not the strongest club and in the last round they could not beat Twente, so it is not worth saying that they are now definitely stronger than Manchester United, they also played a draw with Twente and with a more difficult opponent Porto. Ten Hag's position is very shaky, any defeat for him could be the last in Manchester United.

Therefore I said Mourinho will fight his former club not his former protégé. At least Mourinho's tactics are much more effective than Erik Ten Hag, that's what I can see from both teams when they meet later. Just to remind you that any defeat that Man United gets will not make Erik Ten Hag fired, he seems to have strong backing behind the scenes, so that the bad results throughout this season do not make his status waver in front of Man United top brass. Ineos and Sir Jim do not seem to take a firm stance against him.

The weird part is, Twente looks to me as a better club than Manchester United right now. Obviously when Manchester United plays with 100%, then we saw what they can do, it's been only a few months since they won against City to win the FA cup, so we know what they are capable of. But this is also the same team that has been terrible at premier league this season as well.

So if they do play with their 100%, of course they are going to beat Mourinho and his Fenerbahce, but if they play like they did so far then there is a possibility of them getting destroyed as well. Twente, playing normally, is a better team than Manchester United played all season long this year, whereas United playing at 100% is better than any team in Europa. Their inconsistency is consistent, and I am not sure if we are going to see them get a win here. Fenerbahce has a level of playing, they are not terrible, not great neither, so this whole game depends on how United will play this one.

The problem with their instability is that even if they play normally at first, they can let things go towards the end and concede goals quickly, bringing the match to a draw, this has happened many times before. Moreover even if they play like you said 100% - they can lose because that's their state of affairs now, it seems to me as if they have lost any stability at all

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We need to also remember how United did last year at UCL as well, they faced Bayern which is understandable to lose, but then lost to Copenhagen and Galatasaray as well, so this looks like this is quite normal for United to do badly here as well.

This is not based on what we think is normal or not, this is basically based on United being worse than what everyone thinks and this is the most important part. I realize we are going to have some issues along the way, but we are going to have even bigger results later stages as well. What we are dealing with right now could be considered as something which will definitely take a while to take a look into how United is just having internal issues that shows itself on the field.

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Quote from: bitLeap on October 16, 2024, 07:14:46 AM

Although it is still quite a long time but it feels interesting to discuss how José Mourinho will welcome his former club Man United at Fenerbahçe headquarters. There will be many things that are certainly awaited by both supporters, considering that for Mourinho it should not be difficult to beat Man United whose current condition is not scary for any club. An opportunity for the Fenerbahçe club to give their best game.

What do you think? is this match worth waiting for?

Manchester United will lose to Mourinho that's what I think will happen, Manchester united aren't in a good shape to win any game right now. Mourinho will take advantage of the situations at Manchester united my working mind games with them and use that to his advantage to win the game. The last time that this two clubs meet, it was Fenerbahçe that won Manchester united, they'll still be coming with that mindset and it can help them to play very confident to win Manchester united that aren't at their best. The game isn't that far anymore as after the league games, we'll get the champions league game then Europa league games.

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Quote from: Cryptmuster on October 16, 2024, 04:10:28 AM

Maybe he hopes to win another cup and argue that he brings trophies every season, but it is not only about this, Manchester United was left without the Champions League and this is the biggest failure for such a team. So it turns out that ten Hag is doing what he can do and does not think that he is doing something wrong ...

Well, Ten HAG should be called Shakira for their Song "Blind , deaf and mute....." because yes, it may be a normal Development for a new team or one that comes from the 2nd division , but wait a minute for a team like MU to say such a thing , we are people who know the serious trajectory of this team and for this guy to say Something like that , honestly it's telling Everyone that they're idiots , but well , I don't know, I think the club is Really bad , if they have that kind of Thinking that is so "loser" it's because those things are really bad.

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Quote from: Adiljutt156 on October 17, 2024, 11:06:27 AM

UEFA Europa League is running smoothly and all teamsare trying to win this league but that team will win who prepared well for the years for that. Because the team succeed which will give it's hundred percent and players will give their all effort to win this match. Fenerbahçe has good position on points table and it has more chances to win next match and I am supporting that team because players of that team are hard working and they always did good effort . Man United team should win this match but they have to make their defense system strong to win this match which is hard task for them. Man United team played two matches and won no match and both matches were draw.

Manchester United can win the Europa League if they can be consistent, this consistency and improvement is not just on the defense, which have somehow been better this season but also the attack and the midfield needs to do much more better, they are seriously lacking there especially in the the attack.

There are so many teams that has the potential to win this trophy in the competition but it all boils down to team play and performances especially as competition goes deeper, just like we saw last season when Atalanta came out victorious after defeating the likes of Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen.

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Quote from: bitLeap on October 16, 2024, 07:14:46 AM

Although it is still quite a long time but it feels interesting to discuss how José Mourinho will welcome his former club Man United at Fenerbahçe headquarters. There will be many things that are certainly awaited by both supporters, considering that for Mourinho it should not be difficult to beat Man United whose current condition is not scary for any club. An opportunity for the Fenerbahçe club to give their best game.

What do you think? is this match worth waiting for?

Of course this is a match worth waiting for. Because, this match will also present tactics between the two coaches. Jose Mourinho as a former Man United coach of course wants to prove that he does not deserve to be fired, of course in this match he will prove it by defeating Man United. And in the Man United camp there is Erik Ten Hag who is under great pressure, it can be said that this match is also a challenge for him to stay at Man United. I say this is an interesting match because both coaches will certainly give their best performance for their respective teams.

Man United, which is currently coached by Ten Hag, has not found its best performance, even several times he was rumored to be fired after Man United's performance did not improve. This is very different from Fenerbace who has coach Jose Morurinho. We know that Maourinho is very smart and clever in choosing and looking for players, even when his transfer budget is minimal, his eyes can really see which talent is right for the strategy he wants to implement. Jose Mourinho also when he comes to a club, it is certain that the club will experience significant improvement. So in conclusion I predict that this match will be won by Fenerbace with a narrow victory.

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Quote from: bitLeap on October 17, 2024, 04:31:53 AM

Quote from: Lannakosa on October 16, 2024, 07:26:03 AM

There are almost no players left from the team that Mourinho coached at Manchester United, so it will be a different team and yes, it will be weaker than before. Fenerbahce is also not the strongest club and in the last round they could not beat Twente, so it is not worth saying that they are now definitely stronger than Manchester United, they also played a draw with Twente and with a more difficult opponent Porto. Ten Hag's position is very shaky, any defeat for him could be the last in Manchester United.

Therefore I said Mourinho will fight his former club not his former protégé. At least Mourinho's tactics are much more effective than Erik Ten Hag, that's what I can see from both teams when they meet later. Just to remind you that any defeat that Man United gets will not make Erik Ten Hag fired, he seems to have strong backing behind the scenes, so that the bad results throughout this season do not make his status waver in front of Man United top brass. Ineos and Sir Jim do not seem to take a firm stance against him.

The weird part is, Twente looks to me as a better club than Manchester United right now. Obviously when Manchester United plays with 100%, then we saw what they can do, it's been only a few months since they won against City to win the FA cup, so we know what they are capable of. But this is also the same team that has been terrible at premier league this season as well.

So if they do play with their 100%, of course they are going to beat Mourinho and his Fenerbahce, but if they play like they did so far then there is a possibility of them getting destroyed as well. Twente, playing normally, is a better team than Manchester United played all season long this year, whereas United playing at 100% is better than any team in Europa. Their inconsistency is consistent, and I am not sure if we are going to see them get a win here. Fenerbahce has a level of playing, they are not terrible, not great neither, so this whole game depends on how United will play this one.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 17, 2024, 12:30:36 PM

It is more likely to see different champions in the Europa League compared to the Champions League obviously. For example there have been 7 different champions here in the previous 10 seasons.

What about this season? Do you think there is going to be another different one than all the others in those years? Currently Tottenham are highly favoured for the title. If they become champions then it will happen as they have no Europa League trophy in these years. Ange Postecoglou gave an interview like he would win something in his second year usually. Grin

We will see about that. Honestly it would be great for them as achieving titles isn't a very common thing for them.

The Europa League and the Champions League over the last 10 seasons have basically had different winning teams, but there is only one team that has managed to have more than one trophy, in the Champions League obviously the team is Real Madrid and in the Europa League is Sevilla and both are La Liga teams. But indeed, in this season for the Europa League I also became confident in Tottenham because after all, Ange Postecoglou did manage to make Tottenham at least better.

Although last season Ange Postecoglou failed to make Tottenham consistent, but at least Ange Postecoglou was still able and managed to make Tottenham have a good performance. Thus, it seems enough for Tottenham to have a chance to get the Europa League trophy this season, although there are still several other candidate teams but it looks like Tottenham are still better so far this season.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on October 17, 2024, 11:19:30 AM

Statistically based in individual form so far in the Europa League and their respective domestic Leagues, Tottenham stand almost 80% chance of winning the game because they are the better team and among the favorites to win the Europa League this season.~

I think this is a fair assessment, but still the odds for Tottenham to win will not be 1.2 but higher, something like 1.3-1.35. Bookmakers take into account that Tottenham already have 6 points and there is no great motivation to work hard in a secondary competition, while AZ Alkmaar only have 3 points, plus for them any game in European cups gives increased motivation, especially against big clubs (for AZ Alkmaar Tottenham is definitely a big club).

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