UEFA Europa League 2024/25 Season - page 192.

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Quote from: Obim34 on October 04, 2024, 06:30:22 AM

Ten Hag and the players are not having it this time, I see no sign of improvement, moving from worst to worst on different leagues. Knocking Chelsea off from qualifying for the Europa league is of no importance because even with their last minute qualification they have been unable to put out a good performance.

I don't think the coach will last for another season with this level of results the team is getting in this crucial phases of the competition, even Bruno might end up not being part of the squad by then.

At first I thought Manchester was certain to win after they scored two quick goals in the first half, I thought Erik Ten Hag's team was starting to rise again. But it turned out that Porto was able to turn things around and become superior to United. It was quite surprising, I thought it wouldn't be like this. It was made worse by Bruno getting a red card. Fortunately, United were able to equalize to 3-3. A terrible situation for United, I think Ten Hag should re-evaluate his team. Especially when he made the decision to pull Rashford, 4 minutes later Porto were able to turn the situation around with an advantage for them. For me, statistically United didn't play that badly, they had a lot of chances. But based on individual players, it seems like it will be a job for the coach. A draw is not too bad than losing in this match, besides Porto is not a weak team. Even though I'm not a supporter of The Red Devil, I hope Ten Hag finds a formula to bring his team back on track.

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Quote from: mammusu on October 04, 2024, 03:43:59 AM

The match between Manchester United and Porto was indeed very dramatic, the exchange of goals occurred in the match since the first half of the match began, playing at home, in fact Porto was surprised by Rashford quick goal in the 7th minute and Manchester who were 1 goal ahead continued to increase their attack to secure the victory, but unfortunately it was Manchester United's defense again that became a problem that caused them to fail to get full points in the match, De Ligt and Martinez I think was the reason Manchester failed to get 3 points because of their inability to guard the defense which made Porto manage to end the game with a score of 3-3.
Maybe Manchester United will try to appeal, but it looks like they won't succeed in overturning the punishment received by Bruno Fernandes,Because indeed he deserves a second yellow card in the match after raising his legs too high and potentially endangering the opponent.

Here, everything is already quite obvious. Dangerous play. It is not a sin to give a yellow card for this. The referee did everything right here. A completely justified gesture. You can’t play like that on the field. Bruno Fernandes behaved strangely in this situation, having such a great experience of the game. Apparently, something is affecting him. What could it be? Perhaps some personal problems?

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 03, 2024, 05:41:35 PM

Ten Hag's comments are a separate type of comedy.
It is unlikely that anyone reads his statements for any purpose other than to laugh.
Meanwhile, United have won just once in their last eight European games. The fact that Ten Hag has not yet been sacked in the face of such results is some kind of inexplicable mystery.

I completely agree with you, Ten Hag statement always contains comedy in it, and for now it is hard to believe. Even many assume, Ten Hag will not make it to the end of the season, where a series of bad results make his position very threatened by dismissal, although it is still full of mystery. His decision to rotate players raises various questions, why he never learns from his mistakes. Rashford who looked quite good in the first half, was rotated in the second half by Garnacho. A decision that I think is very wrong, but Ten Hag always has a reason to deny his mistake.
The ups and downs of performance that Manchester United continues to experience, seem to make it difficult for them to realize their ambitions, The Red Devils actually have a great chance of winning the Europa League trophy this season.
In the next match, in the Europa League and Premier League, Ten Hag is certain to lose Bruno Fernandes because he got a red card, that is a big loss. It is very difficult to explain the current situation of The Red Devils, luck seems to always be reluctant to side with them. Meanwhile, fans should thank their former captain Maguire, who saved Manchester United from defeat today.

You will be surprised, but Fernandes won the appeal so his red is overturned (in the Premier League) and he will play the next games, but I don’t think it will help United much. Aston Villa are serious opponents and United will be lucky to get at least a draw.
By the way, I was wrong - United has one win not in 8 games in European competitions, but in 10. And this is a win against Copenhagen.
At the same time, Ten Hag suggests waiting until the end of the season Grin

And also - yes, United have a good chance of winning the Europa League, but everyone understands that this will not be the same Europa League as in previous years, since the composition of participants this year is an order of magnitude weaker (since there will be no addition of teams from the Champions League).

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Manchester United vs Porto was the most exciting match, it started from Manchester United leading two goals, Porto make a comeback for scoring 3 goals and in the injury time, Manchester United managed to equalize the score.

Bruno once again try a risky move and he received red card in this match, will Manchester United appeal the red card again just like they did in the previous match against Tottenham?

Bruno should be benched, unfortunately there are no players that play as good as him right now.

Wow, the match was really exciting, how could Man United who were already two goals ahead concede three goals, luckily Harry Maguire was able to score a goal in injury time, saving Man United from defeat. Regarding Bruno's red card, I think it's fair because it was clearly a violation and the referee didn't immediately issue a red card, only gave a yellow card, so because Bruno had previously received a yellow card, it's fair to get a red card. I don't agree if Bruno is benched because he is one of the key players in the Man United squad and he is also the team captain.

Bruno's red card was due to his own mistake, he couldn't control his emotions and that had happened in 2 Manchester United matches so Ten Hag had to give a warning to Bruno not to harm the team.
Manchester United played very badly in this match, and they were lucky there was an equalizer in the last minutes to make the match end in a draw otherwise they would have lost very embarrassingly again because they were already 2 goals ahead.

I highlight Manchester United's overall performance, they who had been 2 goals ahead could not maintain the rhythm of the game, I think this is a team that does not have clear tactics and if this continues to happen then there is no good possibility for Manchester United in the next match.

I think Bruno Fernandes definitely has some beef with Ten Hag, because it's really weird for the captain to get 2 red cards in a row. You can see that Ten Hag trusts him, if he puts him in the lineup for the game against Porto, even after the suspension in the last EPL match, but Bruno himself is not in the best shape and in fact for the second time breaks the game of Manchester United.
I would not call the match with Porto a failure for Manchester United, if only because at the end of the game they still managed to equalize the score playing in the minority and won one more point, which in any case than a loss and 0 points. It was good that Harry Maguire came on at the end of the game and scored an important goal for Manchester United and Ten Hag personally, because I think the defeat against Porto could be the last game for Ten Hag as the head coach of Manchester United.

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Yesterday I was very disappointed with the overall performance of the Roma team. Roma team shared the points with Athletic Club in the first match of the Europa League. It was Roma's home match. But the match was completely dominated by Athletic Club. Even then Roma managed to get 1 point from this match.

But Roma's defeat against IF Elfsborg was a completely unexpected result. Because we know the Elfsborg team well. Not even this is the first time I've heard the name Elfsborg. Roma lost against such a team. It is true that Roma played well throughout the match. But it was Roma's failure to break down Elfsborg's defence. I wouldn't call it bad luck. Roma's players should have performed better. Roma's attacking players in particular also missed a lot of easy chances. Roma will not be able to do much better in the Europa League this season.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on October 03, 2024, 11:35:16 AM

I know Manchester United to have not had the best of the season thus far but, do we really think they wouldn’t do great in the Europa too? I’m not seeing that when they play against FC Porto tonight. I think they would challenge themselves in this round and make that 3 odds given against them by book markers count towards those who would have the courage enough to bet on them. I the most that could come out of this is a draw else, Manchester United wins this one.

Spurs would win and it’s going to be right from the first half, Roma wins and Bilbao. That’ll be my prediction.

What you said is very true, and I was just too selfish with my skeptical thoughts about Man United's performance in the EPL. And I should have bet on the over or under in the MU and Roma match.

But at least out of the 10 matches I had, I still got 7 profitable wins and 3 losses.

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Manchester United vs Porto was the most exciting match, it started from Manchester United leading two goals, Porto make a comeback for scoring 3 goals and in the injury time, Manchester United managed to equalize the score.

Bruno once again try a risky move and he received red card in this match, will Manchester United appeal the red card again just like they did in the previous match against Tottenham?

Bruno should be benched, unfortunately there are no players that play as good as him right now.

Wow, the match was really exciting, how could Man United who were already two goals ahead concede three goals, luckily Harry Maguire was able to score a goal in injury time, saving Man United from defeat. Regarding Bruno's red card, I think it's fair because it was clearly a violation and the referee didn't immediately issue a red card, only gave a yellow card, so because Bruno had previously received a yellow card, it's fair to get a red card. I don't agree if Bruno is benched because he is one of the key players in the Man United squad and he is also the team captain.

Ten Hag and the players are not having it this time, I see no sign of improvement, moving from worst to worst on different leagues. Knocking Chelsea off from qualifying for the Europa league is of no importance because even with their last minute qualification they have been unable to put out a good performance.

I don't think the coach will last for another season with this level of results the team is getting in this crucial phases of the competition, even Bruno might end up not being part of the squad by then.

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Quote from: wakier on October 04, 2024, 05:56:00 AM

Last season Man United might have won the FA Cup but it was not a prestigious trophy and what the fans need now is for Man United to return to their best and win one of the prestigious titles.
However I think it is unlikely for Man United to win a trophy this season their performance in the UEL and EPL is also not that good I am not sure Man United can compete in the title race I think Erik Ten Hag will be sacked soon.

Soon Erik ten Hag will sack from his position after Manchester United get failure securing three points on second match in UEFA Europe League faced FC Porto, I doubt with Manchester United opportunity qualify to knock out round or not behind six matches left only have one points and difficult reach the top eight position standings are directly qualifying to 16 of round.
Looking the matches schedule left on UEFA Europe League, Manchester United will face many top teams and I doubt with opportunity will get directly qualify to knock out round and have possibility with playoff round qualifying by standings until 24th position place.

In this season seems very difficult for Manchester United get secure any trophy after last season success winning FA Cup, can't guarantee with any tittle behind poor performance not only in Europe League but also Manchester United dropped to 13th standings place in Premier League until games week 6.

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Last season Man United might have won the FA Cup but it was not a prestigious trophy and what the fans need now is for Man United to return to their best and win one of the prestigious titles.
However I think it is unlikely for Man United to win a trophy this season their performance in the UEL and EPL is also not that good I am not sure Man United can compete in the title race I think Erik Ten Hag will be sacked soon.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 04, 2024, 04:36:10 AM

I usually don't bet on the 1st Goal market in any match. But in the Union Saint-Gilloise vs Bodo/Glimt match in the Europa League last night I tried my luck to bet on that market. The odds given by the bookmaker were 15.00 for none. Honestly, I just bet on that market because usually if I'm not so sure about the winning result, I will bet on a draw or BTTS.

I followed the match, there were many opportunities for both teams, especially for the home team. But the problem of accuracy in finishing seems to be a job that must be completed for both teams in the next match.

You placed a bet but your bet had no weight because you didn't know the teams due to which the match ended in a draw. Because no goal was scored by any of the players due to which no good effort was seen in the match. It is better not to bet too much because sometimes the match team loses the match due to not scoring 1 goal. One or the other team will definitely advance for the next matches because one or the other player will definitely work hard to play well and will not let his hard work go in vain during the match. I bet mostly by looking at the history of complex matches. Because it shows how strong the team is and how it will perform in the match.

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Quote from: Richbased on October 03, 2024, 01:46:51 PM

Yeah you got it right and that was a convenient option you choose there because in Galatasaray's previous games there were lot of goals so it was a safe option for you but for people who staked them to win RFS it will be a disappointment for them because they are playing 2:2 currently and it doesn't look like they can win the match again because they had early advantage of scoring 2 goals ahead of RFS but they became so reluctant and the 2 goals were equalized and the match has just ended in 2:2 draw, i never expected Galatasaray to draw this game considering the fact that they also played a 3:3 draw against Kasimpasa in their domestic league match during last weekend.

Unfortunately Galatasaray couldn't score another goal. Sad

It was really unbelievable. But more surprising thing was that they even let RFS equalize and steal a point. I mean how can you make yourself embarrassed in such an easy game? The fans started to criticize Okan Buruk even more after this result. Because losing big advantages in last two games must have made them really angry.

Frankfurt won as expected but Beşiktaş could have levelled the game actually if they played the early part better. Porto were also nearly winning if it weren't for Maguire's last minute save.

Anyways, it was a nice try. Grin

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 04, 2024, 04:10:01 AM

Yesterday's match was very unlucky for Beşiktaş. Getting into so many scoring positions and not being able to put the ball in the net stressed everyone out. Eintracht Frankfurt's second goalkeeper played the best game of his life. A missed penalty, a ball off the post, blocked shots and shots saved by the goalkeeper meant that Beşiktaş could have scored 5-6 goals but ended the match with only one goal. Still, if we look at the positives, unlike the Ajax match, Beşiktaş played much better. There was a team that had the ball and could play a good passing game, the only problem was finishing. If we solve this, we can advance to next rounds in this league.

It was unfortunate for Besiktas that they could not win this match. At the same time I would say that Besiktas' weakness in attack is also well realized from this match. It was Besiktas' home match. And from the beginning of the match, Besiktas players tried hard to score. But the team could not score a single goal in 90 minutes. Besiktas scored their only goal after 90 minutes.

Frankfurt was tactical in this match. Although not as prolific as Besiktas, Frankfurt's every attack was powerful. Also, since Besiktas played completely attacking, Frankfurt's players had the opportunity to counter-attack.

Besiktas were a bit unlucky in this match. Besiktar got a chance to score from the penalty in the first half. But Immobile missed the opportunity. However, another reason for Besiktas' defeat in this match is that Frankfurt's goalkeeper Santos performed well. Santos made 10 saves in this match. Immobile's penalty is saved by Santos.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 03, 2024, 10:22:19 PM

Quote from: Marykeller on October 03, 2024, 06:10:57 PM

On that note, Ten Hag does not think that he has lost this time around at this strategy of taking Manchester United to its former glory of winning trophies due to the availability of a second chance given to him to keep heading Manchester United as a coach.

Let's see if there will be any changes in the next process?

Source: https://x.com/stadiumastro/status/1842008442179092822

That picture was telling us if Ten Hag would say, "They played badly all season. But, they still won a trophy."

It sounds like another excuse from Ten Hag. And even he can't guarantee his team is going to win another trophy this season. He looks so stubborn.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on October 04, 2024, 04:32:58 AM

Bruno's red card was due to his own mistake, he couldn't control his emotions and that had happened in 2 Manchester United matches so Ten Hag had to give a warning to Bruno not to harm the team.
Manchester United played very badly in this match, and they were lucky there was an equalizer in the last minutes to make the match end in a draw otherwise they would have lost very embarrassingly again because they were already 2 goals ahead.

I highlight Manchester United's overall performance, they who had been 2 goals ahead could not maintain the rhythm of the game, I think this is a team that does not have clear tactics and if this continues to happen then there is no good possibility for Manchester United in the next match.

Manchester United started this match very well, but their weak defensive play let them down again, they were leading 0-2, but in the end they had to come back from a red card, just to equalize. I don’t know how you can rate their performance, I even agree to some extent that their game is chaotic, there are no clearly worked out schemes. Maybe a draw is not the worst result away from Porto, but considering that they were winning by two goals, it’s very bad.

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I usually don't bet on the 1st Goal market in any match. But in the Union Saint-Gilloise vs Bodo/Glimt match in the Europa League last night I tried my luck to bet on that market. The odds given by the bookmaker were 15.00 for none. Honestly, I just bet on that market because usually if I'm not so sure about the winning result, I will bet on a draw or BTTS.

I followed the match, there were many opportunities for both teams, especially for the home team. But the problem of accuracy in finishing seems to be a job that must be completed for both teams in the next match.

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Quote from: arufox on October 04, 2024, 04:13:28 AM

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Manchester United vs Porto was the most exciting match, it started from Manchester United leading two goals, Porto make a comeback for scoring 3 goals and in the injury time, Manchester United managed to equalize the score.

Bruno once again try a risky move and he received red card in this match, will Manchester United appeal the red card again just like they did in the previous match against Tottenham?

Bruno should be benched, unfortunately there are no players that play as good as him right now.

Wow, the match was really exciting, how could Man United who were already two goals ahead concede three goals, luckily Harry Maguire was able to score a goal in injury time, saving Man United from defeat. Regarding Bruno's red card, I think it's fair because it was clearly a violation and the referee didn't immediately issue a red card, only gave a yellow card, so because Bruno had previously received a yellow card, it's fair to get a red card. I don't agree if Bruno is benched because he is one of the key players in the Man United squad and he is also the team captain.

Bruno's red card was due to his own mistake, he couldn't control his emotions and that had happened in 2 Manchester United matches so Ten Hag had to give a warning to Bruno not to harm the team.
Manchester United played very badly in this match, and they were lucky there was an equalizer in the last minutes to make the match end in a draw otherwise they would have lost very embarrassingly again because they were already 2 goals ahead.

I highlight Manchester United's overall performance, they who had been 2 goals ahead could not maintain the rhythm of the game, I think this is a team that does not have clear tactics and if this continues to happen then there is no good possibility for Manchester United in the next match.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on October 04, 2024, 12:30:01 AM

Manchester United vs Porto was the most exciting match, it started from Manchester United leading two goals, Porto make a comeback for scoring 3 goals and in the injury time, Manchester United managed to equalize the score.

Bruno once again try a risky move and he received red card in this match, will Manchester United appeal the red card again just like they did in the previous match against Tottenham?

Bruno should be benched, unfortunately there are no players that play as good as him right now.

Wow, the match was really exciting, how could Man United who were already two goals ahead concede three goals, luckily Harry Maguire was able to score a goal in injury time, saving Man United from defeat. Regarding Bruno's red card, I think it's fair because it was clearly a violation and the referee didn't immediately issue a red card, only gave a yellow card, so because Bruno had previously received a yellow card, it's fair to get a red card. I don't agree if Bruno is benched because he is one of the key players in the Man United squad and he is also the team captain.

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Quote from: barisbilgili on October 04, 2024, 02:41:19 AM

That's right, Bruno Fernandes has lost control when the team's performance has not improved and he feels frustrated so he does things that are detrimental or out of control.
Bruno Fernandez has done this several times, even though he is the team captain but he seems unable to control his emotions, a captain who is unable to guide other players to be able to rise on the field is not a good example and it is detrimental to the team.
Regardless of what happened on the field, it must be admitted that Man United's performance was very bad even though they were 2 goals ahead but they seemed unable to play calmly and the team's performance was not well organized in all lines.
I don't know how Ten Hag will improve the performance of the Man United team now, it seems like it will not be possible anymore.

I know Bruno is the captain but if you pay attention to the presence of Bruno Fernandez, he often disrupts the balance of the attack. The red card that the referee revoked from the results of the investigation in the match against Spurs was finally returned to him. So the red card for Bruno is very worthy to teach him a lesson that the role of captain is important to set an example to his colleagues. There is no more reason to disallow it, I hope Bruno recognises his mistake.

Commenting on the match against Porto, overall the first half Manchester United were able to be more dominant and Porto looked frustrated. But in the second half the situation turned around Porto enjoyed the game and began to find United weak points with crosses into the penalty box and capitalised with headers. 2 goals were scored in the same way. Although the result was 3-3, this was not a good result for United, considering they had taken an early lead and were unable to hold on to it until the end.

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Yesterday's match was very unlucky for Beşiktaş. Getting into so many scoring positions and not being able to put the ball in the net stressed everyone out. Eintracht Frankfurt's second goalkeeper played the best game of his life. A missed penalty, a ball off the post, blocked shots and shots saved by the goalkeeper meant that Beşiktaş could have scored 5-6 goals but ended the match with only one goal. Still, if we look at the positives, unlike the Ajax match, Beşiktaş played much better. There was a team that had the ball and could play a good passing game, the only problem was finishing. If we solve this, we can advance to next rounds in this league.

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Quote from: barisbilgili on October 04, 2024, 02:41:19 AM

Quote from: Hewlet on October 04, 2024, 02:28:53 AM

Even before Bruno Fernandez fouled that guy and got a red card, man united were already losing and becoming frustrated in Thier play which caused the reckless tackle from Bruno Fernandez. It's what happens to players when they become frustrated on the pitch, it's always deficult to control your tackles and because he felt he could score even without checking the position of the defender and minding that he was already on a yellow card, he had to allow it get the better of him.

Honestly, they were just lucky to have scored that late goal by Harry Maguire if not they don't deserve to go home with a single point. The only person that played well even though he missed quite a number of clear chances in the first half was rashford otherwise, others played absolutely nonsense. Thier performance begs the question on thier ability to play against tougher teams if they are already struggling against teams they should be winning on a normal base. Having to score 2 goals in the opening 20 minutes and conceding straight 3 goals afterwards his the greatest slap.on a teams face coupled with this back and fourth red card, it only shows that games ahead will be tough for the red devils.

That's right, Bruno Fernandes has lost control when the team's performance has not improved and he feels frustrated so he does things that are detrimental or out of control.
Bruno Fernandez has done this several times, even though he is the team captain but he seems unable to control his emotions, a captain who is unable to guide other players to be able to rise on the field is not a good example and it is detrimental to the team.
Regardless of what happened on the field, it must be admitted that Man United's performance was very bad even though they were 2 goals ahead but they seemed unable to play calmly and the team's performance was not well organized in all lines.
I don't know how Ten Hag will improve the performance of the Man United team now, it seems like it will not be possible anymore.

Manchester United started the game very well, but could not sustain the game later on. Manchester United held the game level at half-time, and when the second half started, Porto were one goal ahead and the game was quite a contest. Although the two teams were very close in terms of betting, Manchester United were unfortunately weakened when Bruno Fernandez was sent off in the 81st minute after receiving a red card.
And in extra minutes of play, Manchester United scored from a corner kick to level the match. And the match was tied 3-3 and both teams got one point and one point to keep their rightful place in the points table.

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