I think United has the brain to not let another coach sit 3 years without achieving nothing and Amorim shouldn't get the same opportunity because I'm waiting since 2014 to see United having a great team again and the only one who actually managed to make United look decent was Mourinho who actually won something with them and Soljaker who was actually a decent coach. The rest of them had absolutely 0 impact on this club and Ten Hag actually did a lot of harm towards United because his EGO was to big to admit that his style won't work on such a team like United.
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I think United has the brain to not let another coach sit 3 years without achieving nothing and Amorim shouldn't get the same opportunity because I'm waiting since 2014 to see United having a great team again and the only one who actually managed to make United look decent was Mourinho who actually won something with them and Soljaker who was actually a decent coach. The rest of them had absolutely 0 impact on this club and Ten Hag actually did a lot of harm towards United because his EGO was to big to admit that his style won't work on such a team like United.
Amorim could bring trophies to Man United, provided the club top brass back him with sufficient funds to build squad depth. It is only natural that fans set high expectations when a managerial change occurs, they hope for a change for the better, especially since Amorim has an impressive track record when coaching Sporting CP. It is true that everything takes time, there is no instant success, Amorim and his players must go through all the stages and overcome every challenge. If Amorim fails to bring trophies this season, I think we cannot blame him entirely. The opportunity to win trophies is still open, and we will see if Amorim will succeed.
Yes, Amorim must be given the trust to build players that suit his character so that we can see the changes that will occur at Man United, the club should not make Erik Ten Hag a benchmark where he spends a lot of money to recruit the players he wants but cannot provide good results but who knows Amorim is different he will make the most of the players he recruits he can achieve good results at Sporting by being given enough time to adapt so Man United must also give him time.hero member
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If we look at the beginning of ten hag arrival season, he came with a more stable squad and team condition after Rangnick leave as coach, so at that time ten hag only needed to make minor changes to the squad which was not in bad condition and that made him able to bring manchester united to impressive results in his first season, while amorim is currently getting a very bad team legacy and even I think not only amorim of course other great coaches will find it difficult to improve their condition in near time, so indeed we cannot compare the two coaches just because of the first season which is inversely proportional, I think, youre right bro, the only way to revive manchester at this time is to rebuild the team from the initial foundation.
Ten Hak came to Manchester United also in a bad condition so there were many things that needed to be fixed, but his first season could have been a little more successful even though it was problematic because the players did not have the expected work ethic. Problems emerged one after another after Ronaldo left and several other players also had problems with discipline so he began to have difficulty building a team. In the end, the management terminated his contract after getting poor results at the start of the season. Amorim is considered to have the ability to fix the team and he is trusted as a replacement, but so far Manchester United's performance has not been stable and he needs time to change Manchester United to be stronger and able to compete in the European League. This is a challenge that may have to be conquered even if you see the opportunity is slightly smaller in conditions like now.
Yes I also think that Manchester United have found a very talented coach at the moment. When Ten Hag was the coach of this team we did not see any improvement in the performance of the team, they performed randomly. But since the new coach came in, their performance has changed and there has been consistency in their performance.
What I know is that Ten Hag once gave his best for Man United when he first joined the team. At that time Ten Hag was able to provide satisfactory results and even fans were really convinced that Ten Hag could bring MU back to its glory days after seeing the positive results.So the fact that Ten Hag never gave an improvement is not true. It's just that when MU could get those results in the near future and then only negative results.
Just like Amorim and we shouldn't praise the new coach too much. The most important thing is to see how far Amorim can bring MU in the current European league. If this is a good start, the new coach should be able to give the European league title to Man United.
Honestly, Ten Hag really did his best, but the truth is that he was not getting results up to people’s expectations. That is why people did not even see his efforts. During the short period that Ten Hag coached Manchester United, I think he won two trophies: the FA Cup and the Carabao Cup.I know that Ten Hag did not deliver as fans expected from him, but I will say that he still tried, and he did not entirely deserve the criticism many are giving him. Ten Hag had better records at Ajax, where he really built those players.
Let’s see what Amorim has for us. Ten Hag did well in his first season, but later on, things got worse. So, it would be better if we wait and see Amorim’s performance. Let’s see what happens at the end of this season and the next before we start comparing him to Ten Hag or fully judging them. Amorim is a better coach with good records, but that doesn’t guarantee that he will perform the same way he did at sporting. If Amorim can push Manchester united to Europa final even without even winning it get more encourage from fans but trust without good result fans will soon start blaming him.
Yes I also think that Manchester United have found a very talented coach at the moment. When Ten Hag was the coach of this team we did not see any improvement in the performance of the team, they performed randomly. But since the new coach came in, their performance has changed and there has been consistency in their performance.
What I know is that Ten Hag once gave his best for Man United when he first joined the team. At that time Ten Hag was able to provide satisfactory results and even fans were really convinced that Ten Hag could bring MU back to its glory days after seeing the positive results.So the fact that Ten Hag never gave an improvement is not true. It's just that when MU could get those results in the near future and then only negative results.
Just like Amorim and we shouldn't praise the new coach too much. The most important thing is to see how far Amorim can bring MU in the current European league. If this is a good start, the new coach should be able to give the European league title to Man United.
As we are having few matches and change of performance level it's also positive thing, but they needed to done few bold decisions quickly if they want to stay at better level otherwise this could be ruined, and they can face again problems in near future which are not positive sign for Manchester United in long run. Southampton win was surely not good as they were under pressure now they are going to host Brighton which could be surely better, and we will give better view about them after this game could be better.
When there is a new manager in a club, it raises expectations. We can see from the arrival of Erik Ten Hag for the first time to Manchester United, yes, that expectation arose and hoped that in his hands he could bring Manchester United to success and in the end it ended badly. Now Amorim has come and that expectation has resurfaced. I can't say he will succeed or fail, because it takes time to see it all. Now what can be done is to believe in what he is doing, there is no choice but to believe in the process, regardless of whether it will work or not.
Yes fans and even the club owners will obviously have expectations. This managers are not working for free, they are being paid and their fans in return make bets on the team so the expectations from new managers has the be high. When. Ten Hag came in everyone felt he will improve on what Ole couldn't do but rather he became even worst I wondered why it took Manu so long to sack him.So far Amorim has tried to prove himself credible and my strongest expectations is that he was able to secure a win against Arsenal and a draw against Liverpool. Many fans thought those two appearances would have ended in embracement but he proved himself credible by those amazing results.
I can understand, because it must have been a very long consideration for them in deciding that.
I just want to see the process that Amorim can show, and I don't think it's fair to see it now. I give him the opportunity to first be able to bring in new players according to the recommendations he gave.
I think the Manchester United management giving the former manager enough time was very wrong, yes they intended not to rush things after seeing his good works with the players in his first season as the manager of the team but watching how the team went from getting better to almost becoming an ordinary teams was the reason why I expected the team to have fired him long ago. ETH was given a good time to bring changes to the team but he ended up almost destroying the reputation of the team as it was very difficult for the team to win matches under his management.
Since Amorim took over as the new manager of the team everything has not really been fine with the team but looking at his record as a manager and the little impact he has brought to the team one can easily see that of he is given the opportunity to buy players with time he can bring a positive change to the team.
When there is a new manager in a club, it raises expectations. We can see from the arrival of Erik Ten Hag for the first time to Manchester United, yes, that expectation arose and hoped that in his hands he could bring Manchester United to success and in the end it ended badly. Now Amorim has come and that expectation has resurfaced. I can't say he will succeed or fail, because it takes time to see it all. Now what can be done is to believe in what he is doing, there is no choice but to believe in the process, regardless of whether it will work or not.
Yes fans and even the club owners will obviously have expectations. This managers are not working for free, they are being paid and their fans in return make bets on the team so the expectations from new managers has the be high. When. Ten Hag came in everyone felt he will improve on what Ole couldn't do but rather he became even worst I wondered why it took Manu so long to sack him.So far Amorim has tried to prove himself credible and my strongest expectations is that he was able to secure a win against Arsenal and a draw against Liverpool. Many fans thought those two appearances would have ended in embracement but he proved himself credible by those amazing results.
I can understand, because it must have been a very long consideration for them in deciding that.
I just want to see the process that Amorim can show, and I don't think it's fair to see it now. I give him the opportunity to first be able to bring in new players according to the recommendations he gave.
I think United has the brain to not let another coach sit 3 years without achieving nothing and Amorim shouldn't get the same opportunity because I'm waiting since 2014 to see United having a great team again and the only one who actually managed to make United look decent was Mourinho who actually won something with them and Soljaker who was actually a decent coach. The rest of them had absolutely 0 impact on this club and Ten Hag actually did a lot of harm towards United because his EGO was to big to admit that his style won't work on such a team like United.
When there is a new manager in a club, it raises expectations. We can see from the arrival of Erik Ten Hag for the first time to Manchester United, yes, that expectation arose and hoped that in his hands he could bring Manchester United to success and in the end it ended badly. Now Amorim has come and that expectation has resurfaced. I can't say he will succeed or fail, because it takes time to see it all. Now what can be done is to believe in what he is doing, there is no choice but to believe in the process, regardless of whether it will work or not.
Yes fans and even the club owners will obviously have expectations. This managers are not working for free, they are being paid and their fans in return make bets on the team so the expectations from new managers has the be high. When. Ten Hag came in everyone felt he will improve on what Ole couldn't do but rather he became even worst I wondered why it took Manu so long to sack him.So far Amorim has tried to prove himself credible and my strongest expectations is that he was able to secure a win against Arsenal and a draw against Liverpool. Many fans thought those two appearances would have ended in embracement but he proved himself credible by those amazing results.
I can understand, because it must have been a very long consideration for them in deciding that.
I just want to see the process that Amorim can show, and I don't think it's fair to see it now. I give him the opportunity to first be able to bring in new players according to the recommendations he gave.
Yes I also think that Manchester United have found a very talented coach at the moment. When Ten Hag was the coach of this team we did not see any improvement in the performance of the team, they performed randomly. But since the new coach came in, their performance has changed and there has been consistency in their performance.
What I know is that Ten Hag once gave his best for Man United when he first joined the team. At that time Ten Hag was able to provide satisfactory results and even fans were really convinced that Ten Hag could bring MU back to its glory days after seeing the positive results.So the fact that Ten Hag never gave an improvement is not true. It's just that when MU could get those results in the near future and then only negative results.
Just like Amorim and we shouldn't praise the new coach too much. The most important thing is to see how far Amorim can bring MU in the current European league. If this is a good start, the new coach should be able to give the European league title to Man United.
Amorim has started with good records and I hope he keeps up with it. Premier league is extremely competitive and a little slack can cost a whole lot of damage if not properly managed. I'm still not confident in Manu going too far in Europa except the prove me wrong. But if Manu can win the Europa that is a straight ticket to champions league next season.
Indeed, although Galatasaray still have other players such as Yilmaz who has the same goal score so far as Osimhen in the Turkish League top scorer board and Yunus Akgun who has a good goal score in the Europa League top scorer board so far. But still, Osimhen has also contributed greatly to Galatasaray's dominance so far this season, so it would be a shame if Osimhen were to leave this month.
But even so, at least Galatasaray might still be doing well in the Turkish League even without Osimhen, or maybe a decline in performance will still have a chance to happen if Osimhen leaves? Who knows. But in any case, I personally still believe Galatasaray will still be fine even without Osimhen, because sofar Galatasaray can play well by means of teamwork and not just about relying on one player.
But even so, at least Galatasaray might still be doing well in the Turkish League even without Osimhen, or maybe a decline in performance will still have a chance to happen if Osimhen leaves? Who knows. But in any case, I personally still believe Galatasaray will still be fine even without Osimhen, because sofar Galatasaray can play well by means of teamwork and not just about relying on one player.
Yeah, we will really need the help by Barış Alper - Yunus Akgün duo in the upcoming games also. I've been so glad with Yunus' performance since Kerem Aktürkoğlu's departure.
He has been scoring lovely goals.Without Osimhen we would still lose blood on the front of course. Because we won't have Icardi too because of an injury to last for months. We would have Batshuayi but I don't see him as a good starting 11 player. He is much more useful when he enters later during a game.
Our remaining games are vs Dynamo Kyiv home and vs Ajax away. We should be able to collect at least 4 points from these. Ajax can be a tough one but if we play focused we wouldn't lose.
Amorim is actually in the process of building the foundation of Manchester United with the program that is being carried out, it is clear that it is not easy to be accepted by all Manchester United players. Some players need to adapt to the system that Amorim is implementing, they need to train their skills so they can play according to what Amorim wants. Some of the players are not ideal with what Amorim is implementing, so he is trying to overhaul the available players. The rest he will target several names and release players who are not included in his program, it's just that for now there are not many choices other than playing the available players. So it is clear that Manchester United needs time so that the program that Amorim is carrying out can be well accepted, so that the system will run according to the scenario. Maybe in the summer Amorim will bring in several names, including releasing old players. What is certain is that the focus right now is how they play their game as well as possible, whether in the Premier League or in the Europa League.
if MU gets good results in the Europa League, it is very possible for the club management to try some good transfers in the summer. but if the performance is not good enough in EPL or Europa League, maybe there will be only a few transfers that happen.Amorim should have understood his current players well enough. he will know the playing character of each player. now he must try to build a strong and consistent team with the players he has. don't expect too much with the player transfers that might be done in this transfer market.
Manchester United fans will have to be patient for a while longer. Although they have already tested a lot of patience but now a new manager has taken charge of their club and this takeover was not normal as this manager has taken charge of Manchester United at times of the season. So the manager will try to do well with this team as much as he can but if he is not able to do well this season then he has to give him another chance next season and give him financial freedom. If Manchester United don't do well under him when he builds the team he wants then maybe he or his skills can be talked about. However, as many matches as this manager was in charge of Manchester United, seeing the performance of Manchester United and the game strategy of Manchester United, I think he may be able to change the performance of Manchester United.
Amorim is actually in the process of building the foundation of Manchester United with the program that is being carried out, it is clear that it is not easy to be accepted by all Manchester United players. Some players need to adapt to the system that Amorim is implementing, they need to train their skills so they can play according to what Amorim wants. Some of the players are not ideal with what Amorim is implementing, so he is trying to overhaul the available players. The rest he will target several names and release players who are not included in his program, it's just that for now there are not many choices other than playing the available players. So it is clear that Manchester United needs time so that the program that Amorim is carrying out can be well accepted, so that the system will run according to the scenario. Maybe in the summer Amorim will bring in several names, including releasing old players. What is certain is that the focus right now is how they play their game as well as possible, whether in the Premier League or in the Europa League.
Yes I also think that Manchester United have found a very talented coach at the moment. When Ten Hag was the coach of this team we did not see any improvement in the performance of the team, they performed randomly. But since the new coach came in, their performance has changed and there has been consistency in their performance.
What I know is that Ten Hag once gave his best for Man United when he first joined the team. At that time Ten Hag was able to provide satisfactory results and even fans were really convinced that Ten Hag could bring MU back to its glory days after seeing the positive results.So the fact that Ten Hag never gave an improvement is not true. It's just that when MU could get those results in the near future and then only negative results.
Just like Amorim and we shouldn't praise the new coach too much. The most important thing is to see how far Amorim can bring MU in the current European league. If this is a good start, the new coach should be able to give the European league title to Man United.
Currently I also really like the philosophy brought by Amorim, he continues to guide Man United players so that there is a passion for playing and hard work. The difference is, Ten Hag's tactics are adaptive depending on the players, while Amorim is a player who is adaptive to his tactics. Ten Hag was criticized for not bringing the old Ajax philosophy, he was actually adaptive to the existing squad. So when there are 1/2 or several players whose performance is not good/injured, he has to adjust his tactics again to the existing squad. This is different from Amorim, look at Amorim when replacing players, when there is a bad player he pulls him out, not relying on just one player. So the players can adapt to existing tactics because they have been trained with the same scheme continuously when at the old club.
With the current performance of Man United and with the current philosophy of Amorim, I am sure that Man United's journey in the European league will be long, especially since they have not lost in the European league, of course this will increase their confidence to continue to provide a good trend for the team.
It is too early to conclude that Man United have been consistent enough so far because, in reality, they are still having difficulty maintaining that victory. But, I agree if it is considered that they have made quite good progress.
Amorim seems to have a pretty decent vision, but it's a shame he can't get good financial support for buying some new players because most of the funds have been squandered by Ten Hag. So now he has to work extra hard and may have to let go of some of his players so that he can be used to bring in players who may be more useful.
Amorim is currently even starting to make trials by giving opportunities to the young players owned by this club. And the results seem pretty good. For example, in yesterday's match against Southampton, Amorim played a young player they have, namely Amad Diallo, who actually produced a surprising result, namely by scoring a hat trick in that match. I'm sure Amorim is now happy because he has finally found a potential player in this squad. And it seems that Man United hasn't really been consistent. But improvement after improvement is actually starting to be seen in this squad. But we shouldn't be surprised if this team's performance declines again when Amorim makes another trial with a new strategy or a different player rotation. And it looks like Amorim is doing it quite calmly as if he has been given a long time to return this team to its best performance again. So he didn't take any hasty steps. Amorim seems to have a pretty decent vision, but it's a shame he can't get good financial support for buying some new players because most of the funds have been squandered by Ten Hag. So now he has to work extra hard and may have to let go of some of his players so that he can be used to bring in players who may be more useful.
Yes I also think that Manchester United have found a very talented coach at the moment. When Ten Hag was the coach of this team we did not see any improvement in the performance of the team, they performed randomly. But since the new coach came in, their performance has changed and there has been consistency in their performance.
What I know is that Ten Hag once gave his best for Man United when he first joined the team. At that time Ten Hag was able to provide satisfactory results and even fans were really convinced that Ten Hag could bring MU back to its glory days after seeing the positive results.So the fact that Ten Hag never gave an improvement is not true. It's just that when MU could get those results in the near future and then only negative results.
Just like Amorim and we shouldn't praise the new coach too much. The most important thing is to see how far Amorim can bring MU in the current European league. If this is a good start, the new coach should be able to give the European league title to Man United.
It is too early to conclude that Man United have been consistent enough so far because, in reality, they are still having difficulty maintaining that victory. But, I agree if it is considered that they have made quite good progress.
Amorim seems to have a pretty decent vision, but it's a shame he can't get good financial support for buying some new players because most of the funds have been squandered by Ten Hag. So now he has to work extra hard and may have to let go of some of his players so that he can be used to bring in players who may be more useful.
Yes I also think that Manchester United have found a very talented coach at the moment. When Ten Hag was the coach of this team we did not see any improvement in the performance of the team, they performed randomly. But since the new coach came in, their performance has changed and there has been consistency in their performance.
What I know is that Ten Hag once gave his best for Man United when he first joined the team. At that time Ten Hag was able to provide satisfactory results and even fans were really convinced that Ten Hag could bring MU back to its glory days after seeing the positive results.So the fact that Ten Hag never gave an improvement is not true. It's just that when MU could get those results in the near future and then only negative results.
Just like Amorim and we shouldn't praise the new coach too much. The most important thing is to see how far Amorim can bring MU in the current European league. If this is a good start, the new coach should be able to give the European league title to Man United.
He has shown his skills in a few matches in charge of Manchester United and his match management skills make everyone think that under him Manchester United will do well in the future. Another manager is getting a lot of success by taking over the responsibility of the team that another manager has arranged according to his own mind. Manchester United has been underperforming for a long time and everyone has given up on expecting anything better from this team, but now that a good manager has arrived in the team, everyone may expect this manager to bring the team back to a good level.
It's the same when Erik Ten Hak came to Manchester United and even his first season was so impressive but entering the second season everything changed. Manchester United need to fix several aspects because now they have no potential to compete for the Premier League title except for the European league and some of the players they have do not show the quality to compete at all. Amorim has not given anything to Manchester United because so far their performance has not improved even though people say Amorim has the ability to fix Manchester United. The level of competition will be difficult to get when the players you have are not showing their best and I think that needs to be fixed first so that Manchester United can be much stronger in the future.
Amorim could bring trophies to Man United, provided the club top brass back him with sufficient funds to build squad depth. It is only natural that fans set high expectations when a managerial change occurs, they hope for a change for the better, especially since Amorim has an impressive track record when coaching Sporting CP. It is true that everything takes time, there is no instant success, Amorim and his players must go through all the stages and overcome every challenge. If Amorim fails to bring trophies this season, I think we cannot blame him entirely. The opportunity to win trophies is still open, and we will see if Amorim will succeed.
Yes, Amorim must be given the trust to build players that suit his character so that we can see the changes that will occur at Man United, the club should not make Erik Ten Hag a benchmark where he spends a lot of money to recruit the players he wants but cannot provide good results but who knows Amorim is different he will make the most of the players he recruits he can achieve good results at Sporting by being given enough time to adapt so Man United must also give him time.
Manchester United and Amorim are still a work in progress, as Amorim also came to replace Erik ten Hag when the league was already rolling. So, it will take time for Amorim to be able to make Manchester United have a significant improvement. But indeed, because at this moment there is at least a chance for Manchester United to be able to advance further in the Europa League, then Amorim should be able to do his best for Manchester United in the Europa League this season. Ofcourse,they must have a target to get the Europa League trophy, so that next season they will be able to play in the Champions League even if they still fail in the Premier League.
This is a point so many others out there aren't patient enough to understand and this includes both Manchester United fans and even nkn fans, they just want the results already, I believe Amorims record facilitated that, especially as he actually did won City at the UCL before finally moving to Manchester United, that made it more reasons Manchester United felt so confident to think that immediately after his arrival everything was going to turnout better than it has ever been because Amorim been able to win city at sporting could mean he was going to do same with United and probably conquer EPL within the shortest time but it turned out they couldn't across. Europe but needed time to get better. 
I agree with your view on amorim, the change of coach is of course expected to be able to bring changes to the club situation, but we should also be able to see how the condition of the club before the coach transition is carried out, Manchester United in the Ten Hag era is actually the worst has era experienced by them all this time, so, of course Amorimneeds a lot of time to made Manchester United to be better again, Although Amorim have the ability and experience om coaching at Sporting previously, but he is not a magician who can change Manchester overnight.
This new experienced coach of Manchester United is training the players of Manchester United very prudence which is helping the players of this team to perform well against the opponents in recent times. Maybe this is how an experienced coach plays an important role in changing a team's performance. Manchester United performed very efficiently and aggressively in a match yesterday even they won that match by a big margin of 3-1 goals.
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