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October 19, 2024, 05:09:39 PM
Without being too emotional, I think Manchester United match actually prove the opposite of what you are saying. Everyone expected Manchester United to lose or at best get a draw but they came back from first half lose to win the match 2:1. That is highly commendable in my opinion and point to the fact that they will be playing very well against Fenerbahce. If I want to bet on this match, I will give Manchester United a win or I play it 3ways in favor of Manchester United. I know that Jose Mourihno will want to be very defensive in the match just to save face.
Indeed Mourinho can do such a playing strategy, but to face MU, I think Fenerbahce does not need to be too defensive. Fenerbahce and MU need a win, I don't think either of them will implement a defensive game. we know MU's performance is not good enough, but they play erratically.
I'm not so sure the result will be good enough for MU. many have criticized them, if they can win against Fenerbahce, that must be a good result. enough to cure the disappointment of some of MU's previous games. but I might avoid betting on MU.
Both teams is really required more points because if they can collect 3 points from this match then it will improved their position on League standing but Manchester United is more under pressure rather than Fenerbahce because they still unable to gets the winning results and in this competition Fenerbahce performance is much better than Manchester United because they have already to collect 4 points from 2 latest matches and at Turkish league too Fenerbahce performance is quite stable so i think from these records we can predict Fenerbahce is in the good shape to facing this match and today Manchester United has been successfully to beat Brentford at Premier league but i am not sure Manchester United can able to bounced back and i highly doubt Manchester United can able to overcome Fenerbahce
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October 19, 2024, 04:50:37 PM
Without being too emotional, I think Manchester United match actually prove the opposite of what you are saying. Everyone expected Manchester United to lose or at best get a draw but they came back from first half lose to win the match 2:1. That is highly commendable in my opinion and point to the fact that they will be playing very well against Fenerbahce. If I want to bet on this match, I will give Manchester United a win or I play it 3ways in favor of Manchester United. I know that Jose Mourihno will want to be very defensive in the match just to save face.
I know it appears like Manchester United did more than it was expected of them in today's game but you know that Manchester United wanted to prove a point to an extent through their coach as it was obvious today he really wanted to do everything possible to win the game or get a draw but in their Europa it's going to be a different game in the sense that it's a different competition with a different competitive action because I believe it's different from what it actually is with their domestic league. Been defensive will help Mourinho a lot but Manchester United going defensive will literally expose them to concede because Mourinho will rather turn the game around if he sees that is the tactic is around them.
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October 19, 2024, 04:17:53 PM
On the other hand, if you look at these two teams in the European League, Fenerbahce's performance is better than Manchester United's because they have managed to achieve one win and one draw while Manchester United are still trying to find their first win. I prefer Fenerbahce to come out as the winner in this match because Manchester United's game is not stable enough.
I agree with you. I also think Fenerbahce will win the match. Manchester United is a big team but their performance is very bad right now and they are even on the same level as Fenerbahce. United is really inconsistent and it seems like the club management should consider sacking Ten Hag as the coach. United has a lot of gaps and Ten Hag doesn't seem to have much variation in tactics. I also choose Fenerbahce to win this match. My choice is a draw or Fenerbahce win by a narrow score. I don't expect United to win this match.

At least any result can still happen, because basically Manchester United is a big team and thus, I believe Manchester United still has a chance to be able to improve its performance and quality over time. Although indeed, I am also not too happy with Erik ten Hag but Manchester United still keep him, although I am also not sure Manchester United get good results but at least Manchester United still have a chance at least not to lose. Because anyway, based on the odds available at this time too, although there is a slight difference but basically they both have a chance, so any result is still possible to happen. But indeed, if for example Fenerbahce managed to beat Manchester United, then it should be a real sign for Manchester United to quickly find a new coach.
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October 19, 2024, 03:23:31 PM
Judging by today's game with Brentford, we should make a simple bet on Fenerbahce to win  Grin
If Brentford hadn't fallen apart in the second half, United would have lost at least 2 points, maybe even 3. A very weak performance against an outsider, also at their home stadium.
I don't know how strong Fenerbahce is (I think they're no weaker than Brentford) but they have a trump card - Mourinho.
Without being too emotional, I think Manchester United match actually prove the opposite of what you are saying. Everyone expected Manchester United to lose or at best get a draw but they came back from first half lose to win the match 2:1. That is highly commendable in my opinion and point to the fact that they will be playing very well against Fenerbahce. If I want to bet on this match, I will give Manchester United a win or I play it 3ways in favor of Manchester United. I know that Jose Mourihno will want to be very defensive in the match just to save face.
Even though my bet won in today's match when I bet on MU victory, it seems I agree with @KTChampions.
I believe that a coach is one of the big encouragement for the team to be able to win the match and we all know how Mourinho's strategy style, even though looks old, but he is still a more experienced coach.
On the one hand this will be a different match from EPL because Fenerbahce is certainly also very aggressive and very ambitious at home and more confident under the care of Mourinho.
And one thing I can say is only a successive draw is very difficult to maintain.
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October 19, 2024, 02:24:48 PM
The teams' odds on paper look equal and bookmakers estimate them as approximately equal:

2.70 - 3.60 - 2.45

United are technically the favourites and they have a stronger squad... but a worse coach  Grin It is very difficult to choose an option for betting here. I have no idea even about the total or BTTS. Probably it is best to pass by this game in terms of betting.

There is slight change in the betting odds given by the bookmaker, but this will indeed be difficult choice because both team in performance statistics do not have guaranteed stability in the Europa League although Fenerbahce looks quite convincing in the Turkish Super League.
I think there is big chance for Fenerbahce to win by taking advantage of playing at home, honestly I quite skeptical about Manchester United because of their previous failures, if you take bet maybe Double Chance can be considered.
Choice of Double Chance Fenerbahce or draw itself gives an odds @1.55.

Judging by today's game with Brentford, we should make a simple bet on Fenerbahce to win  Grin
If Brentford hadn't fallen apart in the second half, United would have lost at least 2 points, maybe even 3. A very weak performance against an outsider, also at their home stadium.
I don't know how strong Fenerbahce is (I think they're no weaker than Brentford) but they have a trump card - Mourinho.
Although I didn't watch Manchester United match, but the result should show that Manchester United is getting better. I say this because Manchester United came from 1 goal against to 2 goals for; this shows improvement.

What I don't believe in the process is the capacity of Erik Ten Hang to maintain even the smallest win streak. The match against Fenerbace could turn to be a total disaster for Manchester United, that is the level of inconsistency in the team.
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October 19, 2024, 02:19:26 PM
Without being too emotional, I think Manchester United match actually prove the opposite of what you are saying. Everyone expected Manchester United to lose or at best get a draw but they came back from first half lose to win the match 2:1. That is highly commendable in my opinion and point to the fact that they will be playing very well against Fenerbahce. If I want to bet on this match, I will give Manchester United a win or I play it 3ways in favor of Manchester United. I know that Jose Mourihno will want to be very defensive in the match just to save face.
Indeed Mourinho can do such a playing strategy, but to face MU, I think Fenerbahce does not need to be too defensive. Fenerbahce and MU need a win, I don't think either of them will implement a defensive game. we know MU's performance is not good enough, but they play erratically.
I'm not so sure the result will be good enough for MU. many have criticized them, if they can win against Fenerbahce, that must be a good result. enough to cure the disappointment of some of MU's previous games. but I might avoid betting on MU.
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October 19, 2024, 01:57:55 PM
The teams' odds on paper look equal and bookmakers estimate them as approximately equal:

2.70 - 3.60 - 2.45

United are technically the favourites and they have a stronger squad... but a worse coach  Grin It is very difficult to choose an option for betting here. I have no idea even about the total or BTTS. Probably it is best to pass by this game in terms of betting.

There is slight change in the betting odds given by the bookmaker, but this will indeed be difficult choice because both team in performance statistics do not have guaranteed stability in the Europa League although Fenerbahce looks quite convincing in the Turkish Super League.
I think there is big chance for Fenerbahce to win by taking advantage of playing at home, honestly I quite skeptical about Manchester United because of their previous failures, if you take bet maybe Double Chance can be considered.
Choice of Double Chance Fenerbahce or draw itself gives an odds @1.55.
Judging by today's game with Brentford, we should make a simple bet on Fenerbahce to win  Grin
If Brentford hadn't fallen apart in the second half, United would have lost at least 2 points, maybe even 3. A very weak performance against an outsider, also at their home stadium.
I don't know how strong Fenerbahce is (I think they're no weaker than Brentford) but they have a trump card - Mourinho.
Without being too emotional, I think Manchester United match actually prove the opposite of what you are saying. Everyone expected Manchester United to lose or at best get a draw but they came back from first half lose to win the match 2:1. That is highly commendable in my opinion and point to the fact that they will be playing very well against Fenerbahce. If I want to bet on this match, I will give Manchester United a win or I play it 3ways in favor of Manchester United. I know that Jose Mourihno will want to be very defensive in the match just to save face.
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October 19, 2024, 12:55:26 PM
The teams' odds on paper look equal and bookmakers estimate them as approximately equal:

2.70 - 3.60 - 2.45

United are technically the favourites and they have a stronger squad... but a worse coach  Grin It is very difficult to choose an option for betting here. I have no idea even about the total or BTTS. Probably it is best to pass by this game in terms of betting.

There is slight change in the betting odds given by the bookmaker, but this will indeed be difficult choice because both team in performance statistics do not have guaranteed stability in the Europa League although Fenerbahce looks quite convincing in the Turkish Super League.
I think there is big chance for Fenerbahce to win by taking advantage of playing at home, honestly I quite skeptical about Manchester United because of their previous failures, if you take bet maybe Double Chance can be considered.
Choice of Double Chance Fenerbahce or draw itself gives an odds @1.55.

Judging by today's game with Brentford, we should make a simple bet on Fenerbahce to win  Grin
If Brentford hadn't fallen apart in the second half, United would have lost at least 2 points, maybe even 3. A very weak performance against an outsider, also at their home stadium.
I don't know how strong Fenerbahce is (I think they're no weaker than Brentford) but they have a trump card - Mourinho.
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October 19, 2024, 12:51:27 PM
I mean when it comes to just manager vs manager, there are not that many better ones out there compared to Mourinho, while his career may not be as great as his time at Real Madrid, and his achievements are looking long gone and he may have dropped to a lower level team these days, we can still see him be a great manager no matter where he is. Whereas, looking at United right now, Erik Ten Hag is running the team and I do not think could make a big difference for the team neither.

If you switched managers of these teams, I would give you 1.40 odds for United to win this game, keep everything else the same, just change the managers and you have a United win that is easy to have, would be a shocker to see anything else.

Mourinho is not the same, especially since his stint with Real Madrid, compared to Guardiola. In fact, the truth is that Guardiola has upped his game many more notches of late, especially after he moved to Manchester City, where he has not stopped winning so many titles and converting City into one of the most dominant teams in Europe.

If Mourinho goes to Manchester United, this will add an interesting dynamic, given the history of his rivalry with Guardiola. Their rivalry in La Liga when Mourinho was at Real Madrid and Guardiola was at Barcelona is one of the greatest in the history of the game. To see Mourinho return to the English Premier League to once again face Guardiola would surely take some beating, especially in a league so full of competition and great storylines like the Premier League. The tactical battle between the two will most certainly reignite what was once a classic rivalry.

Mourinho’s presence at United would add more spice to the rivalry in the Premier League; it will be more interesting to see him up against Guardiola, who has set very high standards in Manchester City. He may not be at the zenith of his career, but his experience aplomb tactics he might just make this more than just another managerial battle.
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October 19, 2024, 12:33:51 PM

The teams' odds on paper look equal and bookmakers estimate them as approximately equal:

2.70 - 3.60 - 2.45

United are technically the favourites and they have a stronger squad... but a worse coach  Grin It is very difficult to choose an option for betting here. I have no idea even about the total or BTTS. Probably it is best to pass by this game in terms of betting.
Yeah they are the favourites but it is a very slight gap.  Tongue  I agree about the manager difference. It would be felt here thinking of Mourinho quality.

I might not pass like you. Even if it is for fun, I'm thinking of giving BTTS and over 2.5 goals both a chance. These are both teams which can score against each other easily because of having vulnerable defenses. If it doesn't take them too long to break the deadlock, these choices are quite sensible on paper to me.  Smiley
I mean when it comes to just manager vs manager, there are not that many better ones out there compared to Mourinho, while his career may not be as great as his time at Real Madrid, and his achievements are looking long gone and he may have dropped to a lower level team these days, we can still see him be a great manager no matter where he is. Whereas, looking at United right now, Erik Ten Hag is running the team and I do not think could make a big difference for the team neither.

If you switched managers of these teams, I would give you 1.40 odds for United to win this game, keep everything else the same, just change the managers and you have a United win that is easy to have, would be a shocker to see anything else.
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October 19, 2024, 12:18:43 PM

There is slight change in the betting odds given by the bookmaker, but this will indeed be difficult choice because both team in performance statistics do not have guaranteed stability in the Europa League although Fenerbahce looks quite convincing in the Turkish Super League.
I think there is big chance for Fenerbahce to win by taking advantage of playing at home, honestly I quite skeptical about Manchester United because of their previous failures, if you take bet maybe Double Chance can be considered.
Choice of Double Chance Fenerbahce or draw itself gives an odds @1.55.
I know it's difficult but I will probably give Fenerbahce a chance but it depends on the conditions later when the match starts, I see the conditions of both teams in their respective domestic leagues, Fenerbahce is indeed slightly superior but this is not about the position in the standings but about the defense so far they have only conceded 5 and scored 16 goals in their league, on the other hand MU's condition in the premier league is far from good.
And considering that Fenerbahce is playing at home another advantage that must be maximized.
Referring to all that I assume a narrow score will occur.
Manchester United is slightly ahead, but Fenerbahce also has a big chance to win this match. Manchester United is really in an unstable condition so they can take advantage of this. Manchester United just got a breath of fresh air after in the English League they were able to win when facing Brentford. They won with a narrow score of 2-1. While Fenerbahce has not played their match this week, but their opponents are also a bit tough.
The European League is more interesting in my opinion, because the favored clubs also do not have a very significant difference from the clubs that are not more favored than them.
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October 19, 2024, 11:23:30 AM

There is slight change in the betting odds given by the bookmaker, but this will indeed be difficult choice because both team in performance statistics do not have guaranteed stability in the Europa League although Fenerbahce looks quite convincing in the Turkish Super League.
I think there is big chance for Fenerbahce to win by taking advantage of playing at home, honestly I quite skeptical about Manchester United because of their previous failures, if you take bet maybe Double Chance can be considered.
Choice of Double Chance Fenerbahce or draw itself gives an odds @1.55.
I know it's difficult but I will probably give Fenerbahce a chance but it depends on the conditions later when the match starts, I see the conditions of both teams in their respective domestic leagues, Fenerbahce is indeed slightly superior but this is not about the position in the standings but about the defense so far they have only conceded 5 and scored 16 goals in their league, on the other hand MU's condition in the premier league is far from good.
And considering that Fenerbahce is playing at home another advantage that must be maximized.
Referring to all that I assume a narrow score will occur.
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October 19, 2024, 09:52:40 AM
It’s been an off and on season for United. They have been mostly off this season, there is still lots of games to play so it is not yet over for Manchester United. This match will be an interesting one to watch because it’s former Manchester United manager Mourinho vs the current Manchester United manager Ten Hag. These two do not like each other, and would want to get a convincing win over the other. I believe Mourinho will have his revenge as Fenerbahçe are going to walk over United.

We shall see how this match is going to play out. Both teams are good to me in this encounter but since it’s a match that Mourinho will likely take personal, and Ten Hag will like to prove his worth again and to be the choice of the team, it is going to be a tough challenge for them both. Even though Manchester United position in the league and whole performance this season is poor, I’ll still give them some hope to have some points in this match. Fernabache is not to be underestimated in this match, and so as Manchester United shouldn’t be also because they could do something incredible to surprise us all.

That game will definitely be hot. Because Fenerbache is not a team that will be taking for granted, although we all know that is mourinho that is the coach and we all know what he is capable of doing. But for Manchester United I don’t think I will be expecting something that special from Erik Ten Hag, because he has already bring a poor performance for the team, which for me to see them winning the game then I will fully conclude that there had a luck. Manchester United performance is getting out of hand and they need to focus more on there performance if not they will face more disgrace like last season or even more, because their performance is even worst than last season for now.
That match will be organize in the Şükrü Saracoğlu stadium and  we will see good competition between team because both teams are good teams if this tournament.  Manchester United is at low level in the points table due to bad luck but players of that team are very confident and they always try to win the match one sided. When we see the head to head performance, the both teams are at same level because both teams played two matches against each other and both teams won 1,1 match and no team is favorite for that match. Fenerbahçe has good position on points table and they will try to win this match to get higher position in this tournament. Man United last matches performance is very bad but they can do different from that.
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October 19, 2024, 06:16:28 AM

The teams' odds on paper look equal and bookmakers estimate them as approximately equal:

2.70 - 3.60 - 2.45

United are technically the favourites and they have a stronger squad... but a worse coach  Grin It is very difficult to choose an option for betting here. I have no idea even about the total or BTTS. Probably it is best to pass by this game in terms of betting.

Yeah they are the favourites but it is a very slight gap.  Tongue  I agree about the manager difference. It would be felt here thinking of Mourinho quality.

I might not pass like you. Even if it is for fun, I'm thinking of giving BTTS and over 2.5 goals both a chance. These are both teams which can score against each other easily because of having vulnerable defenses. If it doesn't take them too long to break the deadlock, these choices are quite sensible on paper to me.  Smiley
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October 19, 2024, 05:24:54 AM
I think it is going to be a quite interesting game.  Smiley  Fenerbahçe and Manchester United have a really good rivalry in history. Both sides have 3 wins in total. If we consider their progress so far in the EL, I can say Fenerbahçe look slightly better. However Turkish clubs can still be unpredictable in such big games. So far they haven't faced too difficult competitors on paper.

Here in this game, I would like to see Fenerbahçe winning to help with our country coefficient. But I'm worried about their defending at the same time. I hope they don't mess up with that. I expect at least one point from them.
I will not even say fenebarche are better than Manchester united slightly this season, like they are far better than Manchester united this season, when you check how far both teams are doing in the league fenerbahce are currently second position in the standing while Manchester united are fourteen in the English league, Manchester united don't even have a structure in terms of playing football, they don't have a style on the other hand fenerbahce have only lost one Match this season and it was again Galatasary which was a derby match, they played well that day but didn't take their chances in front of goal.


Fenebarche will win Manchester united it what I am betting on, I believe Jose morinho will want to win that match at all cost, and they have alot quality players now in the team so I see them having a chance to beat Manchester united. It's going to be an interesting game all round, with plenty of moments, intensity and so much more.
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October 19, 2024, 04:56:12 AM
On the other hand, if you look at these two teams in the European League, Fenerbahce's performance is better than Manchester United's because they have managed to achieve one win and one draw while Manchester United are still trying to find their first win. I prefer Fenerbahce to come out as the winner in this match because Manchester United's game is not stable enough.
I agree with you. I also think Fenerbahce will win the match. Manchester United is a big team but their performance is very bad right now and they are even on the same level as Fenerbahce. United is really inconsistent and it seems like the club management should consider sacking Ten Hag as the coach. United has a lot of gaps and Ten Hag doesn't seem to have much variation in tactics. I also choose Fenerbahce to win this match. My choice is a draw or Fenerbahce win by a narrow score. I don't expect United to win this match.
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October 19, 2024, 03:56:12 AM
We shall see how this match is going to play out. Both teams are good to me in this encounter but since it’s a match that Mourinho will likely take personal, and Ten Hag will like to prove his worth again and to be the choice of the team, it is going to be a tough challenge for them both. Even though Manchester United position in the league and whole performance this season is poor, I’ll still give them some hope to have some points in this match. Fernabache is not to be underestimated in this match, and so as Manchester United shouldn’t be also because they could do something incredible to surprise us all.
It's high time to start surprising fans with their game. But something hasn't quite worked out for Manchester this season. I hope that the situation will change radically and the team will show what it is capable of. I dare to suggest that all this is nothing more than a general strategy that the coaching staff is following. It is possible that there is a banal saving of strength before important meetings on the field.
This match will be a big test for both clubs and also for both coaches, because however victory will be a very good capital for their journey in the semi-league phase later, Mourinho has been known for his ingenious tactics and his ability to motivate the players, while in another position Ten Hag wants to regain the trust of the current fans by winning that the game, but I personally doubt that Manchester United can win full points in the match, because so far they have not found consistency and also a game performance that deserves to be considered a big team so far, maybe in terms of player quality it is clear that Manchester United is superior, but I think Fenerbahçe should also not be underestimated because currently they have a strong squad and can give fierce resistance to their every opponents.

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October 19, 2024, 03:05:43 AM
We shall see how this match is going to play out. Both teams are good to me in this encounter but since it’s a match that Mourinho will likely take personal, and Ten Hag will like to prove his worth again and to be the choice of the team, it is going to be a tough challenge for them both. Even though Manchester United position in the league and whole performance this season is poor, I’ll still give them some hope to have some points in this match. Fernabache is not to be underestimated in this match, and so as Manchester United shouldn’t be also because they could do something incredible to surprise us all.
It's high time to start surprising fans with their game. But something hasn't quite worked out for Manchester this season. I hope that the situation will change radically and the team will show what it is capable of. I dare to suggest that all this is nothing more than a general strategy that the coaching staff is following. It is possible that there is a banal saving of strength before important meetings on the field.
Something that is not going well at Manchester United has been going on for a long time, and that is what makes doubts about them even greater. Now we never know what Manchester United will show, will they play badly? or play well? That is because of their inconsistency so far. Jose Mourinho is a coach who was once at Manchester United, although now the situation is different, but I think Jose Mourinho will know the problems experienced by this team, and that can be a weapon for him to be able to beat Manchester United in this meeting. Honestly, the opportunities given by the bookies are also in my opinion still a question mark and it is very uncertain.

Manchester United matches are completely impossible to predict. They themselves do not know in which match this team will play well. I have not even seen Manchester United play well in a single match this season. Even in both the Europa League matches we did not see Manchester United players playing well. Fenerbahçe's players are now able to play better than Manchester United's.

Overall performance at Fenerbahçe has been good this season. Fenerbahçe also has an experienced coach like Mourinho. And that's why I think Manchester United won't be able to win this match either.
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October 19, 2024, 02:45:16 AM
Normally this shouldn't be a game that is suppose to be difficult for Manchester United but based on their performance this season it tells the strategy Ten Hag is using for the team is not the best, that is why the team is not performing well bit let see how this game will be, if it will be different from other games. Manchester United have been able to win few games this season.

  Mourinho is a very good coach and well experienced,  I think he has more chances of winning and Manchester United have been struggling with poor performance,  so I'm not very sure about Manchester United but let's see what will be the outcome of the game.

The game today against Brentford United and then the game against Fenebache should be the deciding games for Manchester United hierarchies to sack Erik ten Hag but I'm not sure he wants to be sacked and you can see the work these players put into the game, it's just that the attackers are not converting chances right and they need to be more clinical. All these talks of sack will definitely go quiet if United starts winning. I will agree, his decision making and selection has always affected him last season.

Experienced manager with outdated tactics, I already know how he'll play against Manchester United because he knows they'll attack him. They'll sit back and frustrate Manchester United from scoring goals as usual. If they can take the chances they have, they'll deffo win this game.
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October 19, 2024, 12:40:05 AM
We shall see how this match is going to play out. Both teams are good to me in this encounter but since it’s a match that Mourinho will likely take personal, and Ten Hag will like to prove his worth again and to be the choice of the team, it is going to be a tough challenge for them both. Even though Manchester United position in the league and whole performance this season is poor, I’ll still give them some hope to have some points in this match. Fernabache is not to be underestimated in this match, and so as Manchester United shouldn’t be also because they could do something incredible to surprise us all.
It's high time to start surprising fans with their game. But something hasn't quite worked out for Manchester this season. I hope that the situation will change radically and the team will show what it is capable of. I dare to suggest that all this is nothing more than a general strategy that the coaching staff is following. It is possible that there is a banal saving of strength before important meetings on the field.
Something that is not going well at Manchester United has been going on for a long time, and that is what makes doubts about them even greater. Now we never know what Manchester United will show, will they play badly? or play well? That is because of their inconsistency so far. Jose Mourinho is a coach who was once at Manchester United, although now the situation is different, but I think Jose Mourinho will know the problems experienced by this team, and that can be a weapon for him to be able to beat Manchester United in this meeting. Honestly, the opportunities given by the bookies are also in my opinion still a question mark and it is very uncertain.
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