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Topic: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stages - page 25. (Read 14933 times)

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Arsenal.... what are you doing?

But yeah I'm with casper here. Juventus and Sevilla, stay away please. They're too busy either trying to qualify for UCL or avoid relegation. This trophy might come with prize money comparable to a few good buys but neither team will fancy their chances to go all the way.

Now Betis upset? Sounds like my kind of bet Wink
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Probably most interesting pair is Sporting - Arsenal. I'm thinking about backing Arsenal today. Maybe recently Sporting results improved, but in general, they're not doing very well and quality of Arsenal squad is much higher.
Roma - Real Sociedad looks difficult to predict, here I will go over 1.5 goals @1.62 and BTTS in Shakhtar - Feyenoord @1.75
And in general, I hope to see less such careful football with 1:0 or 0:0 scores like in Champions league mainly

I got Union Berlin on my multibet earlier on but the ticket is now lost so I'm thinking to add them again!

But more interesting is my bet on Real Betis who are 8.70 to beat United and I think this won't be a draw. Either United will be supercharged after losing horrendously, like Liverpool seemed to be after losing to Real... or United cannot recover and lose at home.

What do you guys think?
Union vs Union, interesting moment that they also played in same group in last season Europa league. Both teams aren't doing great recently, but Union Berlin looks like more solid team, it's difficult to beat them at home, so, I'm also backing them.
Betis is interesting choice, I think they have chances to eliminate MU, but I don't believe in their win today, I rather would go with their win on 2nd leg, though, odds will be significantly lover.
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I got Union Berlin on my multibet earlier on but the ticket is now lost so I'm thinking to add them again!

But more interesting is my bet on Real Betis who are 8.70 to beat United and I think this won't be a draw. Either United will be supercharged after losing horrendously, like Liverpool seemed to be after losing to Real... or United cannot recover and lose at home.

What do you guys think?

Union Berlin is a good bet, odds are pretty solid, but they already played in group stage, and Royale proved they are not by accident that good in Belgium
Betis and United are not even close to my ticket, generally whole round in Europa league is not worth betting, Sevilla and Juventus being unreliable, Leverkusen has low odds to win, and it is far from secure, Roma and Sociedad should be a goalless draw, but could be fire as well
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I got Union Berlin on my multibet earlier on but the ticket is now lost so I'm thinking to add them again!

But more interesting is my bet on Real Betis who are 8.70 to beat United and I think this won't be a draw. Either United will be supercharged after losing horrendously, like Liverpool seemed to be after losing to Real... or United cannot recover and lose at home.

What do you guys think?
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Union Berlin are one of the impressive teams of the season now. It isn't only in the Bundesliga. They are doing great in the Europa League as well. Eliminating Ajax wasn't an easy task for them of course. But in Germany there was a really strong Union Berlin fighting with them. While Ajax had to focus on the Eredivisie more to climb to the top again there was a big opportunity for Union Berlin to take advantage of. They did it really nicely by a solid 3-1 win. Maybe ball possession percentage was really low for them but it didn't mean anything anyway.

Looking at their next opponent I can comfortably say that Union Berlin can reach next stage as well.
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When I look at the matches, I can say that the favorite teams for me to make it through the round are as follows.
Union Berlin,Fenerbahçe,Juventus,Leverkusen,Arsenal,United,Roma and Feyenoord.
I think that these teams will be the teams that will make the round from the matches. This is my current opinion, there may be injured players according to the match time.

Union Berlin wasnt a favorite in the duel against Ajax but they played really good and deserved to win and advance into the next stage. Leverkusen also barely passed Monaco over penalties and really got lucky in the end. Still will be intresting to see who will win it all.
To be honest, I didn't think union berlin played very well. Ajax had most of the possession. Ajax had more possession and tried to get into more scoring positions but they couldn't capitalize. I was more or less expecting difficulties in this match but I am not surprised that ajax was eliminated. Union berlin is in great form in the league and they are in the championship race.
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today also the eighth finals were drawn and there is no direct duel of clubs from the same league in all 8 games. in my opinion there is somehow no top duel where you could say that this game could also be the final in europa league.

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Barcelona had a lead and they even had a momentum in this match but just wasnt able to keep up the entire match with Man Utd. Man Utd are playing really good this year and i think they can win the entire thing after beating one of the main favorites for the title.

Barcelona are playing well in La Liga, and it seems they are forced to focus on only one competition, because the status of the team doesn't help them to compete for many titles. In addition, Xavi still has problems on the European side, as Barcelona won only 4 European matches out of 16 played under Xavi's management. I think the better team has qualified, and Barcelona need to support their team with more experienced stars for the next Champions League, considering that they have amazing young players who will improve over the time.
Currently, Barcelona is one of the best teams in La Liga The players of the team have been able to build themselves into excellent coaches from the past to the present. However, they lost the chance of Europa League, now if they fail to achieve something good in La Liga then the team will be in big trouble.
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Barcelona had a lead and they even had a momentum in this match but just wasnt able to keep up the entire match with Man Utd. Man Utd are playing really good this year and i think they can win the entire thing after beating one of the main favorites for the title.

Barcelona are playing well in La Liga, and it seems they are forced to focus on only one competition, because the status of the team doesn't help them to compete for many titles. In addition, Xavi still has problems on the European side, as Barcelona won only 4 European matches out of 16 played under Xavi's management. I think the better team has qualified, and Barcelona need to support their team with more experienced stars for the next Champions League, considering that they have amazing young players who will improve over the time.
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When I look at the matches, I can say that the favorite teams for me to make it through the round are as follows.
Union Berlin,Fenerbahçe,Juventus,Leverkusen,Arsenal,United,Roma and Feyenoord.
I think that these teams will be the teams that will make the round from the matches. This is my current opinion, there may be injured players according to the match time.

Union Berlin wasnt a favorite in the duel against Ajax but they played really good and deserved to win and advance into the next stage. Leverkusen also barely passed Monaco over penalties and really got lucky in the end. Still will be intresting to see who will win it all.
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When I look at the matches, I can say that the favorite teams for me to make it through the round are as follows.
Union Berlin,Fenerbahçe,Juventus,Leverkusen,Arsenal,United,Roma and Feyenoord.
I think that these teams will be the teams that will make the round from the matches. This is my current opinion, there may be injured players according to the match time.
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I would never have thought that these two teams would meet in the round qualifiers in the European UEFA league. It was a legendary match in both games. Especially yesterday, Manchester United underlined the trophy with their comeback, and now I see the most favorite United after this win. On the return from Manchester United, the attacks in the goals scored by Antony and Fred were very pure and the finishing of the attackers was very clear. We have seen better why Eric Tan Hag wanted Antony so much and gave him a chance in this match. It was a masterful goal.

Manchester United are not the only favourites.  Arsenal, Juventus, Roma are strong teams and are considered favorites for the cup.  At the moment, Manchester United's other rival is Real Betis, one of the strongest teams in La Liga.  Manchester United will be strong enough to eliminate Real Betis.  We will watch 2 good matches again.
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I would never have thought that these two teams would meet in the round qualifiers in the European UEFA league. It was a legendary match in both games. Especially yesterday, Manchester United underlined the trophy with their comeback, and now I see the most favorite United after this win. On the return from Manchester United, the attacks in the goals scored by Antony and Fred were very pure and the finishing of the attackers was very clear. We have seen better why Eric Tan Hag wanted Antony so much and gave him a chance in this match. It was a masterful goal.
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How realistic are your examples now talking about sending him to Jablonec? What is that that you are trying to convey? Why not amputate a leg and then see how he is doing?

Salzburg is a great example, that makes more sense then the stuff you are bringing up here. Let's see, but only the Champions League because otherwise you woudl say that Austrian soccer is too weak and Salzburg too strong:

Haaland just turned 19 and scored a hattrick, three goals in the first half, in his first game in the Champions League against Genk. Genk? They are weak, ok no big deal.

Next game against Liverpool at Anfield, he scored again one goal. Against Napoli he added two more goals. "His six goals were also the most scored by any player in their first three Champions League matches."

Next game against Napoli? Scored again one goal.

A couple of days later against Wolfsberger AC? His fifth hattrick of the season on November 10th!!

With all due respect, but I doubt that Salzburg belongs to the best feeding teams out there.

With your last sentence I agree fully, when you break records or set them yourself, at some point you are going to "decline" Wink That is true!


Now we are all patiently waiting for Manchester United against Barcelona. This is quite the highlight given that this is not the Champions League Smiley


Again you have completely ignored the whole string of original comments, and now threaten that I want to derail it by talking about amputating legs. Man.

Salzburg, literally, has been called a feeder team (in a different context of course but Google it lol). Still, I would argue they are good enough to feed a striker like Haaland. They supply all the talents for Leipzig and beyond and yes, they are a good club. They literally groom talent and for someone like Haaland to succeed they have to literally set systems for him.

Anyway, enough about going about in circles. You call me out, at least call out properly. You said ANY club would feed him, so why are you surprised by my examples? Then don't say ANY club. Would Nottingham Forest be better if they could afford him instead of buying 30 players?  And stop quoting entire posts it's frowned on Tongue

Barca out, so my mood is down and less interested anyway, but what are your thoughts on the ones left? Can United win Europa? Did you win any actual bets? I have not shared a good win in a while.
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What I can say, MU deserved to reach next round. Another season in Europe to forget for Barca. In first hal everything looked OK more or lesa, but second half was very solid from MU, Barca had nothing to offer against them. Maybe Pedri and Gavi wouldn't saved us, but their absense was big factor.
Monaco - Bayer, this pair was crazy roller coaster, nothing surprising that winner of it was decided in penalty shootout. Congrats to Bayer.
What did I said about PSV - Sevilla? PSV was indeed close to make a comeback, but de Jong goal was cancelled after VAR review. And when they scored second goal it was too late already.
Very interesting game between Union and Ajax. This season European campaign for Ajax is complete disaster. And now we still have Extra Time between Rennes and Shakhtar.

Barcelona had a lead and they even had a momentum in this match but just wasnt able to keep up the entire match with Man Utd. Man Utd are playing really good this year and i think they can win the entire thing after beating one of the main favorites for the title.

After Barcelona was knocked out then there will be Roma and Juventus as tough opponents for Manchester United
Obviously Man Utd are the favourites after defeating the strongest candidate then we will wait to see who their opponent  in the final
I hope it is Juventus as an equal opponent so we can watch the real final.
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What I can say, MU deserved to reach next round. Another season in Europe to forget for Barca. In first hal everything looked OK more or lesa, but second half was very solid from MU, Barca had nothing to offer against them. Maybe Pedri and Gavi wouldn't saved us, but their absense was big factor.
Monaco - Bayer, this pair was crazy roller coaster, nothing surprising that winner of it was decided in penalty shootout. Congrats to Bayer.
What did I said about PSV - Sevilla? PSV was indeed close to make a comeback, but de Jong goal was cancelled after VAR review. And when they scored second goal it was too late already.
Very interesting game between Union and Ajax. This season European campaign for Ajax is complete disaster. And now we still have Extra Time between Rennes and Shakhtar.

Barcelona had a lead and they even had a momentum in this match but just wasnt able to keep up the entire match with Man Utd. Man Utd are playing really good this year and i think they can win the entire thing after beating one of the main favorites for the title.
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What I can say, MU deserved to reach next round. Another season in Europe to forget for Barca. In first hal everything looked OK more or lesa, but second half was very solid from MU, Barca had nothing to offer against them. Maybe Pedri and Gavi wouldn't saved us, but their absense was big factor.
Monaco - Bayer, this pair was crazy roller coaster, nothing surprising that winner of it was decided in penalty shootout. Congrats to Bayer.
What did I said about PSV - Sevilla? PSV was indeed close to make a comeback, but de Jong goal was cancelled after VAR review. And when they scored second goal it was too late already.
Very interesting game between Union and Ajax. This season European campaign for Ajax is complete disaster. And now we still have Extra Time between Rennes and Shakhtar.
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Offcourse, I put bet on Barca win, I believe in my team, even if we aren't favorites. But I have bad feeling, mainly because all these terrible performances in knockout stages in few past seasons.
I am thinking United is probably closer to qualification today than Barca, both teams are much better on home ground and Rashford is in incredible form. My bet as usual is both to score and I hope that will pass as easy as last week. Barca missing Pedri, Gavi and Dembele will be much weaker for sure so I really hope game goes your way, that basically means mine bet passes as well  Grin

have no favorites tonight, and my ship has sink in Conference league, so will just enjoy the match
Rashford and Osimneh are probably two players in best form atm, and that could mean a lot in matches like this one tonight, but my thoughts are with Barca to pass through somehow

not sure about goals, hopefully BTTS will pass, but United has solid defense looking at their last matches, they pretty much polished it with clean sheets

Sporting and Juventus proved that home ground advantage doesn't mean shit, if you are stronger opponent
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Offcourse, I put bet on Barca win, I believe in my team, even if we aren't favorites. But I have bad feeling, mainly because all these terrible performances in knockout stages in few past seasons.
I am thinking United is probably closer to qualification today than Barca, both teams are much better on home ground and Rashford is in incredible form. My bet as usual is both to score and I hope that will pass as easy as last week. Barca missing Pedri, Gavi and Dembele will be much weaker for sure so I really hope game goes your way, that basically means mine bet passes as well  Grin
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Your discussion is a nice read but I don't understand why you say that Haaland would "decline" if you send him to a club that doesn't feed him. First of all, any club would feed him because he simply is the best on the field and the best to finish. Every club would feed him to the best of their abilities because it is the smartest thing to do. Additionally, check out his scores at RedBull Salzburg, at Borussia Dortmund, and now at Manchester City in a brutally strong league. He is breaking records in the EPL like nobody else ever did before. Haaland is probably going to pulverize Shearer's and Cole's record of 34 goals in a season unless he gets injured.

I know a lot of people talk about how players get fed and there is some truth to that, but thinking rationally about it makes me conclude that I would also feed the best player on the pitch if the situation allows it. The best aren't the best because the get fed, but they get fed because they are the best.

I will admit though that there are some players who aren't really the best but are still able to score more in a good team than in a bad team. No doubt that that is also happening. But whether you are outstanding or not is also an important question because you might have players around you that prefer to score themselves if they have the ability to do so.

Lewandowski also left out some chances so far for Barcelona that he didn't leave out during the excellent years he had in Bayern. But he is still scoring very well this season. As you said if you scored that many goals at some point you can only "decline". It is like Ronaldo and Messi when they scored 48 and 50 goals, respectively. Your next season can only get worse Tongue

Dude, I literally made a specific difference that I commented on "decline" regarding goals, not decline in general.

"Any club would feed him" is ignorant of the fact that you need good feeders. He had a great midfield at Dortmund and the best feeder in the world in City (Kevin de Bruyne) and even then, like now if teams discover how to keep the feeders quiet like you can see in past few games, then the goals do not come.

You want an example check out Ronaldo at Al Nassr. Or even at United when the feeders had bad form.

Send Haaland to let us say Jablonec or Lincoln Red Imps (this is Europa not even Conference) and see how well clubs can feed him.

But definitely, we talk about "decline" in different context. Goals can only decline after breaking records Smiley

How realistic are your examples now talking about sending him to Jablonec? What is that that you are trying to convey? Why not amputate a leg and then see how he is doing?

Salzburg is a great example, that makes more sense then the stuff you are bringing up here. Let's see, but only the Champions League because otherwise you woudl say that Austrian soccer is too weak and Salzburg too strong:

Haaland just turned 19 and scored a hattrick, three goals in the first half, in his first game in the Champions League against Genk. Genk? They are weak, ok no big deal.

Next game against Liverpool at Anfield, he scored again one goal. Against Napoli he added two more goals. "His six goals were also the most scored by any player in their first three Champions League matches."

Next game against Napoli? Scored again one goal.

A couple of days later against Wolfsberger AC? His fifth hattrick of the season on November 10th!!

With all due respect, but I doubt that Salzburg belongs to the best feeding teams out there.

With your last sentence I agree fully, when you break records or set them yourself, at some point you are going to "decline" Wink That is true!


Now we are all patiently waiting for Manchester United against Barcelona. This is quite the highlight given that this is not the Champions League Smiley
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