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Quote from: KTChampions on September 08, 2022, 01:54:18 PM

Zurich 1 - 2 Arsenal Angry

Given the fact that I bet on the victory of Arsenal with a handicap of minus one goal, I am not satisfied. The impression is like from a garbage game in a garbage competition. Arsenal in the starting lineup released one and a half players from the main squad - how can this be taken seriously? I understand that there are tournament strategies and passing games, but the group stage in the Europa League is clowning and nothing more.

Well, you wouldn't expect them to field a strong first 11 against an FC Zurich they probably thought wasn't that strong, would you?
It's all strategy at play, their biggest fight is in the Premier League and you want your team to be a fresh as possible if they are to beat the likes of Manchester City by points at the end of the season

Meanwhile, Manchester United just lost to Real Sociedad

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on September 08, 2022, 02:39:43 PM

Fenerbahçe won 2-1. And I won the bet. Its performance at Fenerbahçe was quite good. Fenerbahce's coach is well aware of his team's weaknesses. So not playing too aggressively, trying to play defensively. But every attack at Fenerbahçe was well organized.

I didn't think Roma would lose today. Roma lost by 2-1. But Roma's performance was pretty good. Despite many attacks, they were unable to score. Roma's weak attacking lineup in the last few matches is very well understood. Mourinho should have brought in another experienced striker.

It was really lovely to watch Fenerbahçe today but it was stressful at the same time. I mean especially the last moments were quite troubling. Grin

Fenerbahçe could have got another disappointing result against Dynamo Kiev if it wasn't for Batshuayi's goal in the last moments. I really don't understand Dynamo Kiev. They are like a nightmare of my team considering the head-to-heads in the distant past as well.

As for Roma it was really surprising indeed. However this is the Europa League in the end. It's really difficult to predict what big teams would do. It looks like Roma are focused on the Serie A more now. Because they have a big chance to finish in top 4 this time as they have a good performance.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 08, 2022, 01:54:18 PM

Zurich 1 - 2 Arsenal Angry

Given the fact that I bet on the victory of Arsenal with a handicap of minus one goal, I am not satisfied. The impression is like from a garbage game in a garbage competition. Arsenal in the starting lineup released one and a half players from the main squad - how can this be taken seriously? I understand that there are tournament strategies and passing games, but the group stage in the Europa League is clowning and nothing more.

You are not satisfied with the result of Arsenal 2-1 win because your bet on Arsenal win is with a handicap of minus one goal. Here you feel the disappointment, but not with Arteta and the Arsenal players, they are very satisfied with this result because they can bounce back after the defeat to Manchester United. Arsenal really need a win to restore the player's mentality, Arteta doesn't care about Arsenal winning score, the important thing is that Arsenal can win the game is enough to make Arteta heart happy.

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PSV ruined my betting day, with a Bodo draw
not sure why, but really expected them to win

Crvena Zvezda is still goalless with Monaco, hard match, not too much to see, but all the points are important there
in other match in that group, Ferencvaros is up 3:1 against Turkish champion Trabzonspor, but lost a player due to red card

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Quote from: Falconer on September 08, 2022, 01:27:29 PM

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My guess is that Fenerbahçe will win this match. Their team is quite strong. On the other hand, the current performance of the Dynamo Kyve team is not good. They have lost all their last four matches. Despite conceding 11 goals in four matches, they managed to score only two. Dynamo's defense is very weak. If Fenerbahçe can play a bit more aggressively then they can score at least 3 goals very easily. But I think Fenerbahçe will perform very carefully in this match. And 1-0 or 2-0 goal difference will win.

In fact Fenerbache have difficulty scoring goals. The score was still 1-1 after Victor Tsyhankov scored in the 63rd minute. I don't think Fenerbache can win this game easily even though they played well with high ball possession. But it's about taking chances and finishing well.

Another surprising thing came from the Ludugorets vs Roma match. Ludogorets are still leading the match with a 1 goal advantage after 70 minutes of goalless play. Roma are finding it increasingly difficult to find a way to score the goals they will likely beat if they fail to do so in the last 10 minutes. While others, Real Betis and Arsenal are still ahead of their opponents. Most likely 3 points will be safe for them today.

Fenerbahçe won 2-1. And I won the bet. Its performance at Fenerbahçe was quite good. Fenerbahce's coach is well aware of his team's weaknesses. So not playing too aggressively, trying to play defensively. But every attack at Fenerbahçe was well organized.

I didn't think Roma would lose today. Roma lost by 2-1. But Roma's performance was pretty good. Despite many attacks, they were unable to score. Roma's weak attacking lineup in the last few matches is very well understood. Mourinho should have brought in another experienced striker.

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I certainly expected that Ludogorets would fight Roma and could score at least one goal, but I did not believe that they would win... I do not understand how Roma could lose to an outsider with the not best game statistics in this match... Probably Ludogorets will have a very hard time in the return match in Rome, but I guess they still have a chance to win...

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Quote from: Falconer on September 08, 2022, 01:27:29 PM

Another surprising thing came from the Ludugorets vs Roma match. Ludogorets are still leading the match with a 1 goal advantage after 70 minutes of goalless play. Roma are finding it increasingly difficult to find a way to score the goals they will likely beat if they fail to do so in the last 10 minutes. While others, Real Betis and Arsenal are still ahead of their opponents. Most likely 3 points will be safe for them today.

Roma still lost this match, apparently the match with Udinede was not an accident, Roma remained the same team that it was last season. Ludogorets is not the strongest team, but they are winning, Roma's defense doesn't seem so good now. Manchester United has an interesting squad, Ronaldo, Casemiro and Maguire are playing from the starting minutes. Can this rotation for the LE matches be considered a trial for these players? Let's see if Ronaldo can score today.

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Zurich 1 - 2 Arsenal Angry

Given the fact that I bet on the victory of Arsenal with a handicap of minus one goal, I am not satisfied. The impression is like from a garbage game in a garbage competition. Arsenal in the starting lineup released one and a half players from the main squad - how can this be taken seriously? I understand that there are tournament strategies and passing games, but the group stage in the Europa League is clowning and nothing more.

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My guess is that Fenerbahçe will win this match. Their team is quite strong. On the other hand, the current performance of the Dynamo Kyve team is not good. They have lost all their last four matches. Despite conceding 11 goals in four matches, they managed to score only two. Dynamo's defense is very weak. If Fenerbahçe can play a bit more aggressively then they can score at least 3 goals very easily. But I think Fenerbahçe will perform very carefully in this match. And 1-0 or 2-0 goal difference will win.

In fact Fenerbache have difficulty scoring goals. The score was still 1-1 after Victor Tsyhankov scored in the 63rd minute. I don't think Fenerbache can win this game easily even though they played well with high ball possession. But it's about taking chances and finishing well.

Another surprising thing came from the Ludugorets vs Roma match. Ludogorets are still leading the match with a 1 goal advantage after 70 minutes of goalless play. Roma are finding it increasingly difficult to find a way to score the goals they will likely beat if they fail to do so in the last 10 minutes. While others, Real Betis and Arsenal are still ahead of their opponents. Most likely 3 points will be safe for them today.

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Ludogorets are holding up well against Roma so far... Bookmakers of course highlight Roma as favourites, but I think Ludogorets are playing just as well... I think this game could even end in a draw, although Roma is certainly a better team... But still I think both teams will score... So far, only Arsenal have scored the only goal of the ongoing matches... Grin

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I just realised now that Fenerbahche and Dynamo Kyiv are in same group, they faced each other in Champions League qualifiers this season. Fenerbahche is clear favorite, but I think that Dynamo is understimated too much. Something similar like we saw in Leipzig - Shakhtar game in Champions league.
I go with single ML of Roma, Rennes, Union and Real Betis, odds isn't high, but it looks like more or less safe bets.
Lazio - Feyenoord is most interesting game for me, I go with over 2.5 @1.63 there.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on September 08, 2022, 07:41:19 AM

After losing to Manchester United, Arsenal will look to win convincingly. Given that the next game in the Premier League is at home for them and not against the strongest opponent (Everton), it makes no sense for Arsenal to save energy. In the national championship, out of 7 games, Zurich managed to make 2 draws and lost 5 games - there is not a single prerequisite for them to beat Arsenal.

Agreed, in principal. But there's always something to be said about teams shitting in the league and doing their best in Europe, where da money is. Or at least, trying to!

So my picks, and I don't mind losing:
Bodoe/Glimt: 7.46
Kyiv: 5.66

Can find slightly better odds but used up all my boosts already Wink

Perfect games for me as I can bet live against them if they actually take the lead.

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My choices for today's matches are Arsenal, PSV and Fenerbahce.

Arsenal and PSV both are playing comfortable matches today. Arsenal are already even the biggest favourite for the Europa League title now. Zurich wouldn't be able to stop them no matter it is a home or away match. PSV have started the season incredibly great. Maybe they lost to Twente the last time but I don't expect this to affect them in a bad way here. Bodo/Glimt are a team full of surprises indeed when we consider their awesome challenge against Roma in the Conference League group stage last season. But I don't think they can get any point from PSV away. Fenerbahce have the highest winning odd among these teams but this shouldn't be misleading. They are way stronger than the beginning of the season. Ukrainian teams are fighting hard these days but still Fenerbahce should be able to start by a win in Turkey.

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Another day with a lot of surprises in Europe competitions ? I say yes.

I would say that Olimpiakos and Monaco won't win today and most likely will be defeated. I also like the chances for Lazio to get 3 points today and most likely they will take 3 points.

Also picking more than 70% of the games with under 3.5 goals might be a good opportunity for a winning ticket but then I remind myself that first games in the groups are always tricky and hard to guess.

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Quote from: buwaytress on September 07, 2022, 03:08:32 AM

Had a blast with Champions League opening day, so am definitely looking in tonight's clashes for some tasty encounters with high odds.

Zurich over 8/1 and Bodoe/Glimt are over 6/1. Plenty of other underdogs too but I don't know if I should bet on total unknowns. Arsenal and Eindhoven are the ones I'd bet against, even though they do seem to have a far better team on paper.

What do you guys think?

After losing to Manchester United, Arsenal will look to win convincingly. Given that the next game in the Premier League is at home for them and not against the strongest opponent (Everton), it makes no sense for Arsenal to save energy. In the national championship, out of 7 games, Zurich managed to make 2 draws and lost 5 games - there is not a single prerequisite for them to beat Arsenal.

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I find the odds of the Ferencvaros - Trabzonspor match quite interesting. Honestly I think that Trabzonspor are a far better team than their opponent. I'm aware that Trabzonspor's recent results aren't satisfying at all. After losing points in four matches in a row they finally won a match in their league. Maybe this result could be a motivation for them to prepare well for this match. They are going to play against each other for the first time in their histories. Trabzonspor should be able to make use of their squad quality and win this match somehow. Maybe an odd like 3.25 is not credible but it is a nice choice for the people who will take a risk today.

Manchester United - Real Sociedad is the most impressive match of the day. Manchester United has a 1.62 odd for their win but I can't be very sure of it for now. Because Real Sociedad are a really unpredictable team in the Europa League. Manchester United are fully focused on getting positive results in the EPL these days so I wonder how much Erik ten Hag will care about this match. Maybe he would rotate the squad a little. Both teams to score might be a good option @1.81.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 07, 2022, 05:22:34 AM

I'm thinking about a multi consisting of Fenerbahce win @1.65, Arsenal win @1.32 and Freiburg win @1.35.

Maybe you might think that Fenerbahce is a risky choice. However I don't think so this time. Because there is a big difference between the Fenerbahce at the beginning and the one now. While they are this much effective in scoring goals I don't want to miss this chance. Dynamo Kyiv don't have a good squad anymore. I don't think that they can repeat their success against Fenerbahce here again. Fenerbahce would have their revenge on them by a decent win. When it comes to Arsenal and Freiburg, they have really comfortable games. I even find their odds higher than expected. Neither Zurich nor Qarabag can steal any point from them normally.

I don't think Fenerbahce is risky at all

They're a good club, and that's actually fair odds I think. BTTS might be even better value.

I definitely think we shouldn't rule out Ukrainian clubs either. Just look at what happened in Champions League! All their stars left so only local players but they're so hungry they fight for every ball.

Qarabag are known for surprises too though, so I wouldn't bet my life on any guaranteed outcome lol

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Tomorrow in the Europa League, the most expected match is probably Manchester United vs Real Sociedad... Both clubs are not doing too well in the domestic leagues to put it mildly, but I don't understand why bookmakers are favouring Man U, giving odds of 1.74 for their win... It seems to me that in tomorrow's match these teams have the same chances of winning and Man U are a completely different club now than they were a few years ago...

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I'm thinking about a multi consisting of Fenerbahce win @1.65, Arsenal win @1.32 and Freiburg win @1.35.

Maybe you might think that Fenerbahce is a risky choice. However I don't think so this time. Because there is a big difference between the Fenerbahce at the beginning and the one now. While they are this much effective in scoring goals I don't want to miss this chance. Dynamo Kyiv don't have a good squad anymore. I don't think that they can repeat their success against Fenerbahce here again. Fenerbahce would have their revenge on them by a decent win. When it comes to Arsenal and Freiburg, they have really comfortable games. I even find their odds higher than expected. Neither Zurich nor Qarabag can steal any point from them normally.

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Arsenal will win this easily, man, no doubt about it. Not that I look down on Zuerich but they have been playing very good football. It is not for nothing they are the top favorite to win Europa along with United if they keep the way they play now.

Prize of Champions League is also too good to miss for these teams. I'll follow up my acca from here shortly tomorrow

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