UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 191.

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Quote from: MAAManda on November 20, 2021, 02:12:14 PM

Quote from: baeva on November 20, 2021, 02:00:26 PM

Do you think they will give it their all in their league, but for the match against Spartak they will not show their full strength? In principle it is possible, yes, that in the match against Spartak Moscow there will not be the main players, although I see that Spartak can beat a strong team if they want to

Of course, they are at the top of the Serie A standings and it is imperative to maintain that position until the end of the season, as I said before that their opponents in the Europa League are only Spartak Moscow.

Spartak are at the bottom of group c, they've lost motivation and Napoli don't need to put their full strength into it against Spartak.

I agree with you, but I have a slight feeling that the match against Spartak will be difficult. There is a rumor, and I think it is even officially confirmed, that Napoli's president would like to play in Moscow on a neutral field, and not on Spartak's field, so there is some apprehension, and therefore there is fear, at least for the club president

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on November 21, 2021, 09:07:11 AM

I think every team in Group C still has a chance to qualify for the next round. But I do not think Spartak Moscow can win the next match. If Napoli play with their main squad in this match, they will win and they will avenge the defeat against Spartak in the previous match. My guess is that Napoli will win this match 3-1. Napoli are in good form. Winning against a team like Spartak will not be too difficult for them now.

That is the case now indeed. Spartak Moscow are not a bad team actually considering their performance in the Europa League so far. They made difficulties for Napoli especially as they won the game also. This must be the reason why people are this much curious about the result of this game in Russia this time. The games in Russia in European tournaments have been quite challenging for big teams so far. But there is a visible gap between these teams. I'm expecting to see Napoli performing decently and in this way they can still win this game and consolidate their place in their group.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on November 21, 2021, 11:27:51 AM

All team in group C have chance qualify to next stage depend how Spartak Moscow vs Napoli result, if Moscow success defeat Napoli and get three points make situation to all team have the same chance on last match, I think Napoli will play with second player composition because all regular player will be ready faced with Inter Milan on Serie A in this week, they need win on Serie A and UEFA Europa League is not really important for Napoli.

I have similar thoughts on Napoli's priorities. The problem is that Spartak is sinking even deeper into the crisis and may lose even to the second Napoli squad. They are currently in 10th place in the national championship and their performance is terrible. They even have a negative difference between goals scored and conceded. Considering that half of the teams in the Russian Premier League are rubbish, that means a lot.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on November 21, 2021, 09:07:11 AM

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Spartak Moscow - Napoli game could be one of the most exciting ones. Because the group is in a really interesting condition right now. Every team have a big chance to promote to the next round now. Spartak Moscow are at the last place now but their performance so far has been really good. And they defeated Napoli once before by 3-2 away. Why don't they repeat it, right? It depends on Napoli's effort. If they don't care about the game much, Spartak Moscow are capable enough to punish them for it. Both teams should be able to score easily in this game.

I think every team in Group C still has a chance to qualify for the next round. But I do not think Spartak Moscow can win the next match. If Napoli play with their main squad in this match, they will win and they will avenge the defeat against Spartak in the previous match. My guess is that Napoli will win this match 3-1. Napoli are in good form. Winning against a team like Spartak will not be too difficult for them now.

All team in group C have chance qualify to next stage depend how Spartak Moscow vs Napoli result, if Moscow success defeat Napoli and get three points make situation to all team have the same chance on last match, I think Napoli will play with second player composition because all regular player will be ready faced with Inter Milan on Serie A in this week, they need win on Serie A and UEFA Europa League is not really important for Napoli.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 21, 2021, 07:12:14 AM

Spartak Moscow - Napoli game could be one of the most exciting ones. Because the group is in a really interesting condition right now. Every team have a big chance to promote to the next round now. Spartak Moscow are at the last place now but their performance so far has been really good. And they defeated Napoli once before by 3-2 away. Why don't they repeat it, right? It depends on Napoli's effort. If they don't care about the game much, Spartak Moscow are capable enough to punish them for it. Both teams should be able to score easily in this game.

I think every team in Group C still has a chance to qualify for the next round. But I do not think Spartak Moscow can win the next match. If Napoli play with their main squad in this match, they will win and they will avenge the defeat against Spartak in the previous match. My guess is that Napoli will win this match 3-1. Napoli are in good form. Winning against a team like Spartak will not be too difficult for them now.

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Spartak Moscow - Napoli game could be one of the most exciting ones. Because the group is in a really interesting condition right now. Every team have a big chance to promote to the next round now. Spartak Moscow are at the last place now but their performance so far has been really good. And they defeated Napoli once before by 3-2 away. Why don't they repeat it, right? It depends on Napoli's effort. If they don't care about the game much, Spartak Moscow are capable enough to punish them for it. Both teams should be able to score easily in this game.

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Quote from: MAAManda on November 20, 2021, 02:12:14 PM

Quote from: baeva on November 20, 2021, 02:00:26 PM

Do you think they will give it their all in their league, but for the match against Spartak they will not show their full strength? In principle it is possible, yes, that in the match against Spartak Moscow there will not be the main players, although I see that Spartak can beat a strong team if they want to

Of course, they are at the top of the Serie A standings and it is imperative to maintain that position until the end of the season, as I said before that their opponents in the Europa League are only Spartak Moscow.

Spartak are at the bottom of group c, they've lost motivation and Napoli don't need to put their full strength into it against Spartak.

But I hope this doesn't become a case like Bayern Munich losing to Augsburg. And I do think that it's better safe than sorry. I do believe that Napoli doesn't need therefore strength against Spartak Moscow considering the form that Napoli is in right now. But they better take this match seriously.

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Quote from: baeva on November 20, 2021, 02:00:26 PM

Do you think they will give it their all in their league, but for the match against Spartak they will not show their full strength? In principle it is possible, yes, that in the match against Spartak Moscow there will not be the main players, although I see that Spartak can beat a strong team if they want to

Of course, they are at the top of the Serie A standings and it is imperative to maintain that position until the end of the season, as I said before that their opponents in the Europa League are only Spartak Moscow.

Spartak are at the bottom of group c, they've lost motivation and Napoli don't need to put their full strength into it against Spartak.

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Quote from: MAAManda on November 19, 2021, 10:53:29 AM

Quote from: TopT3ns on November 19, 2021, 12:35:45 AM

Before match with Moscow Napoli faced with big match on Serie A faced with Inter Milan and make them will play with completed team and UEFA Europe league maybe Napoli will play with irregular player. Still have chance and take few days later faced with Moscow but Napoli keep playing on EUFA Europe League with not full completed player, will success get three points or not for Napoli because three points is most important to make Napoli qualify to the next stage.

There are still 2 matches left in the Europa League, and currently Napoli are in the first position of group c standings, I think they will easily qualify for the next round, moreover Spartak Moscow is currently at the bottom of group c. The match against Inter Milan will be more important for them to maintain their position to get stronger at the top of the table.

The difference in points between Napoli and Inter Milan is only 7 points, if Napoli fail to get a win, it will make AC Milan easily climb to the first rank of the Serie A standings.

Do you think they will give it their all in their league, but for the match against Spartak they will not show their full strength? In principle it is possible, yes, that in the match against Spartak Moscow there will not be the main players, although I see that Spartak can beat a strong team if they want to

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Quote from: tyz on November 19, 2021, 11:29:07 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 19, 2021, 07:57:58 AM

I understand that you mean Spartak from Moscow, but there are many football clubs in this city, so it is better to make a clarification (by the way, Lokomotiv, which also takes part in this league of Europe, is also from Moscow).
I do not think that Napoli cares about the games in the Europa League, they give all their strength to the domestic championship, so Spartak has chances in this match. In addition, weather conditions can prevent both clubs from performing well.

Of course they will take the Europe League seriously, if only for financial reasons. In the meantime, the Euro League is also worthwhile financially, after there was a reform two three years ago. Especially in times of Corona and collapsing advertising and spectator revenues, it is all the more important to earn money from European competition.

I cannot give exact numbers, but I remember that the clubs' earnings from playing in the Europa League are quite modest - they are about 5 times less than from playing in the Champions League. I'm not sure if this money covers the organizational costs and prize money for the players.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 19, 2021, 07:57:58 AM

Quote from: TopT3ns on November 19, 2021, 12:35:45 AM

Before match with Moscow Napoli faced with big match on Serie A faced with Inter Milan and make them will play with completed team and UEFA Europe league maybe Napoli will play with irregular player. Still have chance and take few days later faced with Moscow but Napoli keep playing on EUFA Europe League with not full completed player, will success get three points or not for Napoli because three points is most important to make Napoli qualify to the next stage.

I understand that you mean Spartak from Moscow, but there are many football clubs in this city, so it is better to make a clarification (by the way, Lokomotiv, which also takes part in this league of Europe, is also from Moscow).
I do not think that Napoli cares about the games in the Europa League, they give all their strength to the domestic championship, so Spartak has chances in this match. In addition, weather conditions can prevent both clubs from performing well.

Yes, I also get confused sometimes, there are many football clubs in Moscow. @KTChampions, Actually, I don't think Napoli doesn't care about this match. And I think as Napoli is in the first place of the tournament they care about the Europa League match. But I do agree with the weather situation which good have any effect on the match.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 18, 2021, 06:58:34 PM

I think I got your point.
When managing an average club, more of your job is coaching the players to get result.
Unlike when you are managing a big team;
You will manage the individual players;
You will manage the whole team;
You will manage the fans expectations;
You will also manage the fierced conditions of the Board.
Finally, the expectations will be high.

Yes, that is what I am trying to say. And also if you are managing a big team you have to listen to the star players of the team. As their actions can be more impactful on the media and to people. Just like the Cristiano Ronaldo situation in Manchester united. And as he has better players, if they don't perform, it's on the manager. So a manager can be under some pressure while managing a big team.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 19, 2021, 07:57:58 AM

Quote from: TopT3ns on November 19, 2021, 12:35:45 AM

Before match with Moscow Napoli faced with big match on Serie A faced with Inter Milan and make them will play with completed team and UEFA Europe league maybe Napoli will play with irregular player. Still have chance and take few days later faced with Moscow but Napoli keep playing on EUFA Europe League with not full completed player, will success get three points or not for Napoli because three points is most important to make Napoli qualify to the next stage.

I understand that you mean Spartak from Moscow, but there are many football clubs in this city, so it is better to make a clarification (by the way, Lokomotiv, which also takes part in this league of Europe, is also from Moscow).
I do not think that Napoli cares about the games in the Europa League, they give all their strength to the domestic championship, so Spartak has chances in this match. In addition, weather conditions can prevent both clubs from performing well.

Of course they will take the Europe League seriously, if only for financial reasons. In the meantime, the Euro League is also worthwhile financially, after there was a reform two three years ago. Especially in times of Corona and collapsing advertising and spectator revenues, it is all the more important to earn money from European competition.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on November 19, 2021, 12:35:45 AM

Before match with Moscow Napoli faced with big match on Serie A faced with Inter Milan and make them will play with completed team and UEFA Europe league maybe Napoli will play with irregular player. Still have chance and take few days later faced with Moscow but Napoli keep playing on EUFA Europe League with not full completed player, will success get three points or not for Napoli because three points is most important to make Napoli qualify to the next stage.

There are still 2 matches left in the Europa League, and currently Napoli are in the first position of group c standings, I think they will easily qualify for the next round, moreover Spartak Moscow is currently at the bottom of group c. The match against Inter Milan will be more important for them to maintain their position to get stronger at the top of the table.

The difference in points between Napoli and Inter Milan is only 7 points, if Napoli fail to get a win, it will make AC Milan easily climb to the first rank of the Serie A standings.

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Spartak Moscow - Napoli game is coming and it carries big importance also. Because there is only a gap of three points between these teams in the group. Napoli are the leader but this can change anytime also. And there is an interesting statistics also like Spartak Moscow defeated Napoli by 3-2 away before. And who knows, maybe they will be able to do this again in this game. But in this game, I expect a stronger and more determined Napoli. My first prediction is BTTS.

Napoli had a red card 30 minutes into their match against Spartak Moscow, which made difficult for them to win despite playing at home. Although, Moscow also got a red card, but that was towards the end of the game. No doubt, Napoli are in great form this season, and they are also leading in the Serie A League. But, this is Europe League, and I believe no team are weak. Therefore, I won't be surprise if Moscow end up winning Napoli for the second time. Nevertheless, I also think both teams will surely score.

Well, I think Napoli is going to win the match. And they will get their revenge. And I also think that in the last match Spartak Moscow had it easy because almost the whole match they played it 11 v 10. But this time things are going to be different in my opinion. And I also think this could be a high-scoring match.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on November 19, 2021, 12:35:45 AM

Before match with Moscow Napoli faced with big match on Serie A faced with Inter Milan and make them will play with completed team and UEFA Europe league maybe Napoli will play with irregular player. Still have chance and take few days later faced with Moscow but Napoli keep playing on EUFA Europe League with not full completed player, will success get three points or not for Napoli because three points is most important to make Napoli qualify to the next stage.

I understand that you mean Spartak from Moscow, but there are many football clubs in this city, so it is better to make a clarification (by the way, Lokomotiv, which also takes part in this league of Europe, is also from Moscow).
I do not think that Napoli cares about the games in the Europa League, they give all their strength to the domestic championship, so Spartak has chances in this match. In addition, weather conditions can prevent both clubs from performing well.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on November 18, 2021, 01:41:38 PM

Spartak Moscow - Napoli game is coming and it carries big importance also. Because there is only a gap of three points between these teams in the group. Napoli are the leader but this can change anytime also. And there is an interesting statistics also like Spartak Moscow defeated Napoli by 3-2 away before. And who knows, maybe they will be able to do this again in this game. But in this game, I expect a stronger and more determined Napoli. My first prediction is BTTS.

Napoli had a red card 30 minutes into their match against Spartak Moscow, which made difficult for them to win despite playing at home. Although, Moscow also got a red card, but that was towards the end of the game. No doubt, Napoli are in great form this season, and they are also leading in the Serie A League. But, this is Europe League, and I believe no team are weak. Therefore, I won't be surprise if Moscow end up winning Napoli for the second time. Nevertheless, I also think both teams will surely score.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on November 19, 2021, 12:35:45 AM

Before match with Moscow Napoli faced with big match on Serie A faced with Inter Milan and make them will play with completed team and UEFA Europe league maybe Napoli will play with irregular player. Still have chance and take few days later faced with Moscow but Napoli keep playing on EUFA Europe League with not full completed player, will success get three points or not for Napoli because three points is most important to make Napoli qualify to the next stage.

If against Inter all the players are safe no one got injured in the game then I think it will still be fine. But indeed, the rotation that must be done by Napoli is very necessary here, because before and after playing against Spartak Moscow according to the schedule, Napoli must face Inter and Lazio. It is an opponent that cannot be underestimated, considering that Napoli have to maintain their position in both tournaments because if they lose, then it is clear that Napoli will fall. Here in Group C all teams are still very likely to qualify because even though Spartak Moscow are bottom, they can still overtake each other on points. So yes, the competition in this group will also continue until the last round.

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Before match with Moscow Napoli faced with big match on Serie A faced with Inter Milan and make them will play with completed team and UEFA Europe league maybe Napoli will play with irregular player. Still have chance and take few days later faced with Moscow but Napoli keep playing on EUFA Europe League with not full completed player, will success get three points or not for Napoli because three points is most important to make Napoli qualify to the next stage.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 17, 2021, 02:27:11 PM

Moyes performance amuses me. Yes, before he came to Manchester United, he was a good coach. But in Old Trafford, the narrative wasn't smooth for him or was he not given enough time to prove himself?
Could it be that if Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is given an average club now he could do well?
I think there is a particular tension that comes with big teams.

Westham don't just need only one good player, they need more to strengthen their bench. It will not be a wrong investment now that the team is promising.

While managing big teams the manager has to look after a lot of things. And if you have some certain good players you need to make plays around them. But with small teams, I don't think that is the idea as they don't have too many great players so the managers just run a play and the players do their best to execute it. So the same thing not working for the big teams is kind of justifiable.

I think I got your point.
When managing an average club, more of your job is coaching the players to get result.
Unlike when you are managing a big team;
You will manage the individual players;
You will manage the whole team;
You will manage the fans expectations;
You will also manage the fierced conditions of the Board.
Finally, the expectations will be high.

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