UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 74.

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Quote from: Jasad on April 12, 2022, 02:23:24 AM

Frankfurt have bad capital against with Barcelona because last math on Bundesliga defeated by Freiburg 1-2 although playing on home, different with Barcelona have crucial match after last minutes goals from Frank De Jong give 3 points for Barcelona defeated Levante. I think with capital result on domestic league will give effect when both team against on second leg UEFA Europe League and looks Barcelona favorite because play on home, but have several match when Barcelona play on Camp Nou at Europe League always got draw result from against with Napoli until Galatasaray.

In the upcoming game, Barcelona would be the favorite for any results of the games in the national championships in the last round. Another thing is that the defense of Barcelona is far from perfect and even outsiders from La Liga can score goals against it, if Frankfurt is no less successful, then Barcelona will have a difficult match. Even a second draw for Frankfurt will be a good result because in the penalty shoot-out all clubs have approximately equal chances.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on April 12, 2022, 05:32:54 AM

Leipzig is definitely the favorite in this match.

When it comes to knockout games, i always believe that the word 'favorite' does not exist; it is simply a tool to downgrade or belittle a certain team. Be it Atalanta, Leizpig, Lyon, WestHam, Barcelona or frankfurt; either of them can win the tie if they take their chances and score more than their opponents. Now that away goal rule does not exist, the tie is literally open and does not care if you are favorite or not

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 11, 2022, 05:32:25 PM

Atalanta - Leipzig can be the toughest game this week. Atalanta were the better side in the first leg of this draw but they still had no choice other than making do with a 1-1 draw. Leipzig hardly managed to secure a draw for themselves. But this performance wouldn't help them in the second leg I believe. Atalanta are going to play in their home stadium this time and I expect them to be in control more than the previous game. Leipzig will have to do much more otherwise Atalanta would advance.

I think, both team are strong enough. Both team can be qualify for next round. But Atalanta more strong team.Atalanta played very well this season but Leipzig played very expensive. They improved much this season. Home or away i don't believe two things because its a game goals.Waiting for what happen in next round.

Leipzig is definitely the favorite in this match. Because the Atlanta team was in good form at the beginning of the season but gradually their performance has deteriorated. In the last 5 matches, they have managed to score only 4 points in Serie A. Leipzig, on the other hand, is in good form now. With the recent 4-1 win over Dortmund, the players are now more confident. That's why I want to keep the Leipzig team ahead.

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You cannot compare them in all aspects, but certain teams can be compared with each other. lately in the league, Barcelona has been doing very well, and so has the Europa League. In the early part of the season, Barcelona underperformed both in the league and in the Champions League, resulting in a disastrous elimination. In that respect, we do see certain parallels in this performance curve. When you're good, you normally perform well on both platforms, and when you're bad it's the same story. There are always exceptions, can have to do with whether someone can charge for a competition with motivation.

Well, in fact, I think that Barcelona has a lot to do against any Europa League team. For me, both the Spanish league and the Europa League teams are very complete teams with a very high level of football.

I know that for now Barcelona has a great way of playing and this is thanks to Xavi, players that nobody wants, Xavi takes them and turns them into pure gold, I don't know how many replacement generations there are in Barcelona's academies, but I think that It's time for them to show themselves, for me the key is in the new generations.

Even though we think that Barcelona is going to win the Europa League, in my opinion it is not going to be easy at all because the teams that are facing Barcelona is there for a reason, they are good enough to achieve that spot. So, Barcelona needs to be careful.

Barcelona has been playing well recently and without the help of Xavier Hernández, It wouldn't have been possible. I think this team is going to achieve greater things in the next season.

You're right, if they already have a level like the one shown up to now and in a short time, I have to admit that a team like Real Madrid, which is one of the most famous of the classics of classics, if they don't put in high-level players, I think that Barcelona can overwhelm them, Xavi is a player before he is a coach, and I think he gives him that motivation, sometimes I think he would like to play with them, and that spirit he has has really made them level up.

The Europa League is the golden opportunity for Barcelona, don't let them lose that award, it's something to stimulate your club.

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Frankfurt have bad capital against with Barcelona because last math on Bundesliga defeated by Freiburg 1-2 although playing on home, different with Barcelona have crucial match after last minutes goals from Frank De Jong give 3 points for Barcelona defeated Levante. I think with capital result on domestic league will give effect when both team against on second leg UEFA Europe League and looks Barcelona favorite because play on home, but have several match when Barcelona play on Camp Nou at Europe League always got draw result from against with Napoli until Galatasaray.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 11, 2022, 05:32:25 PM

Atalanta - Leipzig can be the toughest game this week. Atalanta were the better side in the first leg of this draw but they still had no choice other than making do with a 1-1 draw. Leipzig hardly managed to secure a draw for themselves. But this performance wouldn't help them in the second leg I believe. Atalanta are going to play in their home stadium this time and I expect them to be in control more than the previous game. Leipzig will have to do much more otherwise Atalanta would advance.

I think, both team are strong enough. Both team can be qualify for next round. But Atalanta more strong team.Atalanta played very well this season but Leipzig played very expensive. They improved much this season. Home or away i don't believe two things because its a game goals.Waiting for what happen in next round.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on April 11, 2022, 03:37:19 PM

In a few days, the second legs are going to be underway in the Europa League. And Barcelona are going to have a really difficult rematch against Frankfurt too. Because I'm taking the performances in the first leg into consideration first. And we all saw how great Frankfurt performed against Barcelona too. I'm expecting to see the same effort from them. However it is still depending on how much Barcelona would like to advance to semi finals. If they show a similar performance then Frankfurt might take advantage of it a lot.

Barcelona are in their great form. They also have intentions of winning the Europe League title this season, and will fight for the trophy. While, the rematch will be really tough. Barca have to play more carefully to ensure they wins. Because losing the match will end their race for the Europe League title. However, Frankfurt knows how strong their opponent are, and will surely prepared themselves for the challenge. Nevertheless, i can't probably wait for the game.

I would not say that the victory in the second minute added by the referee of the match over the team that occupies the last place in La Liga is an indicator of the great form of Barcelona. I am also not sure that Barcelona is capable of holding all its matches at a high level, and the first match with Eintracht showed it perfectly when the club from Frankfurt looked clearly no worse than its famous opponent. Eintracht excelled at sudden transitions into a counterattack, which perfectly broke Barcelona's lace and led to dangerous moments at someone else's goal. Therefore, each team has its own trump cards and the only serious argument in favor of Barcelona is that the game will be held at the home stadium with the support of its spectators.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 11, 2022, 05:32:25 PM

Atalanta - Leipzig can be the toughest game this week. Atalanta were the better side in the first leg of this draw but they still had no choice other than making do with a 1-1 draw. Leipzig hardly managed to secure a draw for themselves. But this performance wouldn't help them in the second leg I believe. Atalanta are going to play in their home stadium this time and I expect them to be in control more than the previous game. Leipzig will have to do much more otherwise Atalanta would advance.

Atalanta have good thing play as home but actually with several impressive match on domestic league from Leipzig will make this match interested and little hard predicting who will lead to semifinal. I think interested match with first leg result between team got draw actually Atalanta have opportunity as home match. Between Atalanta and Leipzig have different match result on domestic league where last two match on Serie A, Atalanta defeated by Napoli and Sassuolo, different with Leipzig have impressive performance on Bundesliga last two match before where defeated Dortmund and last week success win 3-0 from Hoffenheim.

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Quote from: Ebede on April 11, 2022, 09:50:43 AM

Frankfurt failed to win their last game at home.
Barcelona won at the last minute of the game with the help of De Jong.
I don't expect them to struggle for the win at Barcelona, it should end well for Barcelona

It's a must. For barcelona to go allout , now or never and they have to secure an early goal .. otherwise things could get worse as they often being so frustrated when the first half ended goalless.
Hopefully the bet for barcelona to win with over 1.5 goals worth to placed .

The statistics sometimes doesnt matter really at this stage , full of surprise matches await.

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Atalanta - Leipzig can be the toughest game this week. Atalanta were the better side in the first leg of this draw but they still had no choice other than making do with a 1-1 draw. Leipzig hardly managed to secure a draw for themselves. But this performance wouldn't help them in the second leg I believe. Atalanta are going to play in their home stadium this time and I expect them to be in control more than the previous game. Leipzig will have to do much more otherwise Atalanta would advance.

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Quote from: Ebede on April 11, 2022, 10:28:07 AM

Camp Nou is very large, you get to win by having a whole lot of composure and possession keeping in that stadium.
I'm sure Barcelona are ready to sting, and they will do so until every single Frankfurt player is exhausted.

I had bet that Barcelona would win easily, but I was surprised by the draw and in this other game I would not underestimate Frankfurt. they are not strong in the bundesliga but they can beat barcelona in their own field, for barcelona to have a chance to win they need to strive to score 2 goals very early and then focus on defending, if barcelona gives too many spaces they can lose, and Of course that would be reason for a lot of criticism

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 11, 2022, 11:15:25 AM

If it's so easy to score from penalties why don't stupid teams hit them all the time? 50 times per match? Think about it.
I have already written for what reason an unexpected result is possible - Barcelona's form is very doubtful if you watch their game (however, even the result against a clear outsider raises questions). You are confusing the quality of the game and the result. It's one thing to confidently win 6-0, and another 3-2 barely.

I would say Barcelona wasn't at their best ever form, but to say that they are not doing amazingly these days after having beaten real Madrid 4-0 just recently would be bad as well. Maybe this game wasn't their best game but they managed to still get that three points anyway. Let me put it this way, the last game they lost was in 20th of January against Bilbao.

We are in half of April, it has been nearly 3 full months since they lost a game, over 2.5 months. If you still think that they are not capable of beating Frankfurt, then I do not know how to convince you otherwise. You can wager on Frankfurt if you want, I am going to wager on Barcelona to win.

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Barcelona are now playing against Levante and I see that a draw with Eintracht in the first game is quite natural. Maybe I'm wrong and Barcelona is just saving energy, but it seems that they are in a recession. In my opinion Levante looks stronger, although they lack skill. If Xavi does not have time to change this state of the team for the second leg, Eintracht has excellent chances.

In what way is Levante stronger? Scoring two penalties and taking the game to a draw? I'm certainly not a professional football player and it's not for me to say that penalties are easy goals, yes, it's difficult, but most penalties end in a goal. Anyway, never mind, this match is won... Barcelona are at the peak of their form this season, but playing away is always difficult, do you think they can't win at home in their next europe league game?

If it's so easy to score from penalties why don't stupid teams hit them all the time? 50 times per match? Think about it.
I have already written for what reason an unexpected result is possible - Barcelona's form is very doubtful if you watch their game (however, even the result against a clear outsider raises questions). You are confusing the quality of the game and the result. It's one thing to confidently win 6-0, and another 3-2 barely.

I didn't see any difficulty during the Barcelona game. It's not that penalties aren't kicked 50 times a game, but that if they are, it's almost always a goal. That's exactly what we saw in this match, twice in fact. It's a normal game moment, there's nothing wrong with it (penalties) and if it wasn't for them, you wouldn't think Barcelona's game was difficult. You just don't know what I'm talking about.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on April 11, 2022, 03:37:19 PM

In a few days, the second legs are going to be underway in the Europa League. And Barcelona are going to have a really difficult rematch against Frankfurt too. Because I'm taking the performances in the first leg into consideration first. And we all saw how great Frankfurt performed against Barcelona too. I'm expecting to see the same effort from them. However it is still depending on how much Barcelona would like to advance to semi finals. If they show a similar performance then Frankfurt might take advantage of it a lot.

Barcelona are in their great form. They also have intentions of winning the Europe League title this season, and will fight for the trophy. While, the rematch will be really tough. Barca have to play more carefully to ensure they wins. Because losing the match will end their race for the Europe League title. However, Frankfurt knows how strong their opponent are, and will surely prepared themselves for the challenge. Nevertheless, i can't probably wait for the game.

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Quote from: mamesso on April 11, 2022, 09:34:45 AM

True, Frankfurt will have difficulties when they travel to Camp Nou. Barcelona will take an advantage of the Camp Nou atmosphere filled with loyal supporters to step into the semi-finals.
Frankfurt still has a chance to win, as the game is not yet underway. However, if it is a percentage, Frankfurt chances of winning the match at Camp Nou are only 30%, because in the last few matches Barcelona are very difficult to beat.
Barcelona are very favorites in the second leg, I think in the second leg there will be more than 2 goals.

if barcelona don't underestimate frankfurt then most likely they will win. in the 1st leg no one expected that barca was held to a draw by frankfurt, besides that we all certainly know that the final results of many matches are beyond prediction. I certainly hope that barca wins easily, but I also don't underestimate Frankfurt's chances of winning in this match (although the chances are small).

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Quote from: Ebede on April 11, 2022, 10:28:07 AM

Camp Nou is very large, you get to win by having a whole lot of composure and possession keeping in that stadium.
I'm sure Barcelona are ready to sting, and they will do so until every single Frankfurt player is exhausted.

Camp Nou is very larges, YES, but Frankfurt play expansive type of football that thrives well in a wide and beautiful natural stadium. Barcelona are better be at their best as they host frankfurt this thursday so as to avoid defeats at home. I am still tipping Frankfurt to qualify for the semi final round. Frankfurt 2 - 0 Barcelona

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Quote from: Ebede on April 11, 2022, 09:50:43 AM

Frankfurt failed to win their last game at home.
Barcelona won at the last minute of the game with the help of De Jong.
I don't expect them to struggle for the win at Barcelona, it should end well for Barcelona

If you referred to the previous match, there was no winner at that time. And there was no goal in the last minute. Please check again the previous match between Frankfurt vs Barcelona, result: 1-1 (draw). I think Barcelona get an advantage from this match, they got 1 away goal and have a chance to win in their home, Leg 2. I'm not surprised if Frankfurt can be a difficult opponent, they are not a weak team. Frankfurt played quite solidly and they have a strong defensive line. Barcelona must be very careful.

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In a few days, the second legs are going to be underway in the Europa League. And Barcelona are going to have a really difficult rematch against Frankfurt too. Because I'm taking the performances in the first leg into consideration first. And we all saw how great Frankfurt performed against Barcelona too. I'm expecting to see the same effort from them. However it is still depending on how much Barcelona would like to advance to semi finals. If they show a similar performance then Frankfurt might take advantage of it a lot.

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Quote from: poldanmig on April 11, 2022, 02:33:22 PM

Quote from: Ebede on April 11, 2022, 10:28:07 AM

Camp Nou is very large, you get to win by having a whole lot of composure and possession keeping in that stadium.
I'm sure Barcelona are ready to sting, and they will do so until every single Frankfurt player is exhausted.

Barcelona is the favorite to win the second leg later not only because of playing at Camp Nou, the strategy and tactics as well as the depth of the squad owned by Barcelona have become a reference for many people to favorite Barcelona in that match, despite getting a negative result in the first leg but Barcelona current game starting to improve and I think the only secret of Barcelona rise in every game is Xavi foresight in making substitutions, I saw in the matches against Frankfurt and Levante, when Xavi made substitutions made Barcelona game better after that.

Supposedly the game in the first leg some time ago had made Xavi find a way to face Frankfurt in the second leg.
They always perform well in the second leg and that was indeed the case against Napoli and Galatasaray in the previous matches. moreover they will play at Camp Nou now I don't think there is any reason for them to be bad now because their focus is definitely this Competition because La Liga will be very difficult to fight for

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Quote from: Ebede on April 11, 2022, 10:28:07 AM

Camp Nou is very large, you get to win by having a whole lot of composure and possession keeping in that stadium.
I'm sure Barcelona are ready to sting, and they will do so until every single Frankfurt player is exhausted.

Barcelona is the favorite to win the second leg later not only because of playing at Camp Nou, the strategy and tactics as well as the depth of the squad owned by Barcelona have become a reference for many people to favorite Barcelona in that match, despite getting a negative result in the first leg but Barcelona current game starting to improve and I think the only secret of Barcelona rise in every game is Xavi foresight in making substitutions, I saw in the matches against Frankfurt and Levante, when Xavi made substitutions made Barcelona game better after that.

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