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Quote from: darewaller on April 09, 2022, 12:14:04 AM

I did not expected this many draws, it was seriously closer than I imagined. I imagined Leipzig would win, Barcelona would win and interestingly West Ham would win as well looking how they are doing better in a better league. Braga wasn't expected neither and was the only game I would say a draw, and if not then rangers to win as well.

I have to say this weeks of europa games made me lose a lot and I wasn't even close in some of them. Like Barcelona looked like a fairly easy bet, and I wagered 2.5+ goals on Barcelona Cheesy

. Let alone a draw, I expected them to beat by that many. Interesting to see that they had trouble all over again, they are great at league but europa seems to be a difficult for them.

^ I think it's just not only the Europa League, I think it is also because they played in away conditions and they had some certain disadvantages in that match.

But, I do expect Barcelona to win in the second leg because it will be played in Camp Nou. That's why Barcelona should obviously have the advantage in that 2nd leg for the home environment.

But, in that match against RB Leipzig and Atalanta, I actually thought Atalanta might have a chance and in that match, a draw is a fair result in my opinion.

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Quote from: zuzie on April 08, 2022, 06:51:10 PM

How we imagine Barcelona who used to compete with Bayern Munich but now they have to compete with Frankfurt, do we have to worry Barcelona loses?
After all, I personally think Frankfurt is not a decent opponent for Barcelona moreover the second leg at Camp Nou Frankfurt must have got difficulty there

The 1-1 result obtained by Barcelona is very surprising, because after getting good results in La Liga, Barcelona is predicted to win over Frankfurt. But this is football, what happens on the field is very far from what football observers predict.
A 1-1 draw in the first leg is not a bad result for Barcelona, as they still have 90 minutes left at Camp Nou. Barcelona will try to give victory to the fans present at Camp Nou, Xavi also does not want the opportunity to lift his first trophy as Barcelona coach to be taken by a non-seeded team in the Europa League.

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This matchday is strange, the quarterfinals with 4 games and 3 end 1-1 and the 4th 1-0. As if all teams have the same tactics in the first game and only at Glasgow Rangers did it not work. The favorite to win the Europa League is FC Barcelona, i hope that a German team plays in the final.

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Quote from: zuzie on April 08, 2022, 06:51:10 PM

Quote from: Iranus on April 08, 2022, 06:10:46 PM

Actually, the goal from Frankfurt looked really awesome. It was quite a long way out and the shot was well taken I have to say.
I think we saw a match between two different poles in that match because while Frankfurt scored their only goal from a long way out, Barcelona scored their goal with decisive passes.
Frankfurt could have made a better result if they had made a little more through balls but they shot a lot more. All eyes are going to be on the second leg now.

How we imagine Barcelona who used to compete with Bayern Munich but now they have to compete with Frankfurt, do we have to worry Barcelona loses?
After all, I personally think Frankfurt is not a decent opponent for Barcelona moreover the second leg at Camp Nou Frankfurt must have got difficulty there

I don't think Barcelona is going to lose the second leg because the score in the first leg was 1-1.

So obviously, neither team has any benefit over the other. You know, the second leg is going to be played in Camp Nou, and obviously, Barcelona should have the advantage in home conditions.

Now what I am wondering is what if Barcelona does not win the second leg and doesn't at once in the Europa league?

Is that good compared to where Barcelona was at the start of the season or is that bad because Barcelona was in the form before this match?

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Quote from: watergold on April 07, 2022, 07:21:36 PM

Frankfurt really put up a fight against Barcelona, they made it difficult for Barcelona to score. They could even keep the score after one of their players was shown a red card and had to play 10 men. It was beyond my expectation that Barcelona would win the match, even though they didn't lose but Frankfurt gave Barcelona a surprise.

I think it is very sad that Barcelona cannot score a goal even against Frankfurt, which plays with 10 players. This team should perform much better. Their standing in the league is getting better day by day, but I think they should have won the match comfortably against a team like Frankfurt.
As in the other rounds, they will be victorious in the second match and advance to the next round Cheesy

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I did not expected this many draws, it was seriously closer than I imagined. I imagined Leipzig would win, Barcelona would win and interestingly West Ham would win as well looking how they are doing better in a better league. Braga wasn't expected neither and was the only game I would say a draw, and if not then rangers to win as well.

I have to say this weeks of europa games made me lose a lot and I wasn't even close in some of them. Like Barcelona looked like a fairly easy bet, and I wagered 2.5+ goals on Barcelona Cheesy

. Let alone a draw, I expected them to beat by that many. Interesting to see that they had trouble all over again, they are great at league but europa seems to be a difficult for them.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 08, 2022, 05:11:57 PM

I wonder what West Ham will do in the rematch of their matchup against Lyon. Because they got a really unfortunate red card in the first leg. They still got 1-0 ahead but were only able to make do with a 1-1 draw at the end of the game. But even in this kind of a situation, they did a good job I think. Maybe Lyon are going to have a stadium advantage next time. But I still believe in West Ham to eliminate them from the Europa League. I still expect them to be Barcelona's opponent in the semi finals. I know Barcelona's job is not guaranteed either but I believe in them too.

As far as I know West Ham only play well at home while their away game is pretty bad I doubt they can beat Lyon who has a strong defense
Losing one of the defenders can weaken their defense too Lyon can take advantage there in addition to the advantage of playing at home
West Ham don't have much experience in the Europa League hard to imagine they can go to the next stage.

Last away when 16 round West Ham United defeated by Sevilla 1-0 and they lead on second leg when playing home 2-0 aggregate 2-1 and lead to quarter final, I think bad with West Ham United after draw as home match and worry next on second leg against with Lyon will have bad problem, can winning on second leg match away to Lyon actually we know how atmosphere with Lyon fans will give pressure for West Ham United player until 90 minutes.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 08, 2022, 06:10:46 PM

Actually, the goal from Frankfurt looked really awesome. It was quite a long way out and the shot was well taken I have to say.

I think we saw a match between two different poles in that match because while Frankfurt scored their only goal from a long way out, Barcelona scored their goal with decisive passes.
Frankfurt could have made a better result if they had made a little more through balls but they shot a lot more. All eyes are going to be on the second leg now.

How we imagine Barcelona who used to compete with Bayern Munich but now they have to compete with Frankfurt, do we have to worry Barcelona loses?
After all, I personally think Frankfurt is not a decent opponent for Barcelona moreover the second leg at Camp Nou Frankfurt must have got difficulty there
Don't think Frankfurt won even by holding back 2 goals it was the best achievement for them.

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Quote from: barbara44 on April 08, 2022, 04:53:04 PM

Quote from: Rana590 on April 08, 2022, 02:08:18 PM

I was sure that Leipzig would win the match but match ended with draw. Atalanta is playing great in this time but Leipzig was favorite in that match. Last night was so confusing about the result of some match like Barcelona, Lyon, Leipzig.

Leipzig's current form is very good and after winning their German League match against Dortmund with score of 1 - 4 mostly peoples were feeling they can beat Atlanta which is struggling badly in last few matches, but they have done good come back in this match and now any result is possible in second leg match as both teams have fair chance for qualifying into semi-final with most chances we will have German Leipzig into next round because Atlanta is having some poor run at home against their Italian sides so here Leipzig can take some good advantage and go though. But, good thing we have all quality performance from all eight sides in these matches which will bring some good entertainment in second leg as well.

Oh, yes, I would also like to add that Leipzig, on the contrary, has been playing better away than at home lately. They are completely equal rivals and it is difficult to give any team an advantage in the second leg, because everything can be decided by one moment and individual skill, as it was in the moment with Muriel's goal. Although, of course, Leipzig and their head coach Tedesco can complain about the missed one hundred percent moments at the end of the match, which did not lead to a goal, because a victory is a victory and this may not be enough for the final success. Atalanta still did not have such sharpness in the end and a draw simplifies the task in the second leg.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 08, 2022, 05:11:57 PM

I wonder what West Ham will do in the rematch of their matchup against Lyon. Because they got a really unfortunate red card in the first leg. They still got 1-0 ahead but were only able to make do with a 1-1 draw at the end of the game. But even in this kind of a situation, they did a good job I think. Maybe Lyon are going to have a stadium advantage next time. But I still believe in West Ham to eliminate them from the Europa League. I still expect them to be Barcelona's opponent in the semi finals. I know Barcelona's job is not guaranteed either but I believe in them too.

As far as I know West Ham only play well at home while their away game is pretty bad I doubt they can beat Lyon who has a strong defense
Losing one of the defenders can weaken their defense too Lyon can take advantage there in addition to the advantage of playing at home
West Ham don't have much experience in the Europa League hard to imagine they can go to the next stage.

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Quote from: ShowOff on April 08, 2022, 09:32:25 AM

Quote from: udidrone on April 07, 2022, 05:58:57 PM

Let's just say this is the effect of the difference in situation between European teams and local leagues they don't understand each other
It's very different when it comes to playing against local league teams who already understand each other, I think this is the most appropriate reason
To prove it we will see in the second match later whether Barcelona do the same or not.

European competitions are different so we can't predict the results with accuracy. The intensity of the game between Frankfurt and Barcelona is very interesting because Frankfurt appear impressive both in attack and defense although basically Barcelona's dominance in this match is also good.
Frankfurt recorded quite a lot of kicks throughout the match despite only managing to score 1 goal. They performed as the coach expected "to defend well and take chances when they got the ball on the counter-attack". There were 5 counter attacks by Frankfurt throughout the match compared to 0 by Barcelona, so Frankfurt deserved a draw in that match. But I was amazed by Barcelona's performance in that match where they can still maintain an unbeaten record so far.

Actually, the goal from Frankfurt looked really awesome. It was quite a long way out and the shot was well taken I have to say.

I think we saw a match between two different poles in that match because while Frankfurt scored their only goal from a long way out, Barcelona scored their goal with decisive passes.
Frankfurt could have made a better result if they had made a little more through balls but they shot a lot more. All eyes are going to be on the second leg now.

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I wonder what West Ham will do in the rematch of their matchup against Lyon. Because they got a really unfortunate red card in the first leg. They still got 1-0 ahead but were only able to make do with a 1-1 draw at the end of the game. But even in this kind of a situation, they did a good job I think. Maybe Lyon are going to have a stadium advantage next time. But I still believe in West Ham to eliminate them from the Europa League. I still expect them to be Barcelona's opponent in the semi finals. I know Barcelona's job is not guaranteed either but I believe in them too.

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Westham United host their guest, Lyon at the London stadium. Alot of impact in the game, Westham defend their Territory with a 1-1 draw. Although, the hammers were issued a red card at stoppage time of the first half, when Moussa Dembele made a dangerous counter but was pull down by A. Cresswell in the box. The full back is off with a straight red card by the referee. The second half kickoff with 10 men left for the Westham team, until Lyon Defender, Jerome boateng mistake, when the ball got away from him, Jarrod Bowen took over from there and made strike but boateng slides down to correct his mistake but the ball deflected and headed straight in the goal post. That's was a brilliant finished by Jarrod Bowen who puts Westham in front, but Lyon came back fully with ball Possession of 61% and tanguy Ndombele made a strike to make the game a 1-1 draw. The game was a bit difficult for Lyon, who wasn't happy about the results they got at the London Stadium.

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Quote from: barbara44 on April 08, 2022, 04:53:04 PM

Quote from: Rana590 on April 08, 2022, 02:08:18 PM

I was sure that Leipzig would win the match but match ended with draw. Atalanta is playing great in this time but Leipzig was favorite in that match. Last night was so confusing about the result of some match like Barcelona, Lyon, Leipzig.

Leipzig's current form is very good and after winning their German League match against Dortmund with score of 1 - 4 mostly peoples were feeling they can beat Atlanta which is struggling badly in last few matches, but they have done good come back in this match and now any result is possible in second leg match as both teams have fair chance for qualifying into semi-final with most chances we will have German Leipzig into next round because Atlanta is having some poor run at home against their Italian sides so here Leipzig can take some good advantage and go though.

But, good thing we have all quality performance from all eight sides in these matches which will bring some good entertainment in second leg as well.

These expectations are too high, the same as Barcelona's expectations against Franfurt in other matches.
Expectations that are too high are what makes one forget that the team in the Europa League is not a weak team.
Atalanta performed quite well and Leipzig actually played less comfortably and were not all out in this match in my opinion.
even though they controlled the game but they often forgot about the midfield and the back line so it was easy for the Atalanta players to give deadly counter attacks

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Quote from: Rana590 on April 08, 2022, 02:08:18 PM

I was sure that Leipzig would win the match but match ended with draw. Atalanta is playing great in this time but Leipzig was favorite in that match. Last night was so confusing about the result of some match like Barcelona, Lyon, Leipzig.

Leipzig's current form is very good and after winning their German League match against Dortmund with score of 1 - 4 mostly peoples were feeling they can beat Atlanta which is struggling badly in last few matches, but they have done good come back in this match and now any result is possible in second leg match as both teams have fair chance for qualifying into semi-final with most chances we will have German Leipzig into next round because Atlanta is having some poor run at home against their Italian sides so here Leipzig can take some good advantage and go though.

But, good thing we have all quality performance from all eight sides in these matches which will bring some good entertainment in second leg as well.

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Barcelona has a very good performance in La Liga, while Frankfurt's performance is arguably unstable (their last 2 matches in the Bundesliga have ended in draws), so the 1-1 draw between Frankfurt and Barcelona was beyond my expectations because I think that Barcelona will get an easy win.

The match between Frankfurt and Barcelona was quite exciting, even though Barcelona dominated the game but they seemed to have a hard time breaking down the Frankfurt defense. I think in this match, Frankfurt can really take on Barcelona, which they also had some chances that could have been goals.

It seems even Xavi wasn't expecting that from Frankfurt. The reason Xavi didn't play with his strongest 11 is that he underestimated them, otherwise there is no explanation. Barcelona's structure was not good against Frankfurt. 85% of the passes from Barca were inaccurate. Still, a good result as Barca managed to score again. If they cannot fix things before the return leg, they should go back to the drawing board. The game must be concluded at Camp Nou.

Barcelona have change their games play not effective with ball possession dominance only but also how to create attempt and should make shot on goal although have out penalty box, usually Barcelona have games play with less creativity for player how to make attempt out penalty box because most dominance with tiki taka games play and usually scoring goal on penalty box, so never have way for Barcelona how create attempt out penalty box and try make shot on goal.

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Quote from: Rana590 on April 08, 2022, 02:08:18 PM

I was sure that Leipzig would win the match but match ended with draw. Atalanta is playing great in this time but Leipzig was favorite in that match. Last night was so confusing about the result of some match like Barcelona, Lyon, Leipzig.

Even if it was like that, but remember that their players still couldn't score a goal there because even though the match ended in a draw, it was the result of an own goal from Zappacosta.
I think they have to do this right if they want to win. they can't be missed like before because it's very dangerous if in Leg 2 they miss out like the match in the first leg

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 08, 2022, 02:15:36 PM

Barcelona couldn't achieve a good success against Frankfurt last night. I was expecting them to win here and have a good advantage already. But they had a huge problem against Frankfurt and the game ended in a draw by 1-1. Frankfurt didn't play like in the first half later on. If they did, maybe Barcelona would have even lost this game. And the red card was an opportunity for them but they couldn't turn it into an advantage either. However, I still feel like they are going to move Frankfurt out of their way in Camp Nou.

But Barcelona was able to hold on to a draw in yesterday's match. I think Barcelona have tried but the effort has not been maximized with the result of the 1-1 score still being profitable for Barcelona later in the second leg at the Camp Nou stadium.

Xavi must have done a good strategy the players will be made more aggressive and concentrated again, I believe Xavi can overcome the Barcelona game can win at home with that advantage then there must be a chance that will be created which is Barcelona's victory to qualify.
Since Barcelona are in good shape I predict it will win at the Camp nou.

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Quote from: baeva on April 07, 2022, 05:20:47 PM

Eintracht players played too dirty, got a few yellow cards and even a red card, unlike Barcelona who didn't have a single warning (if I'm not mistaken, I think not a single card). I'm sure Barcelona will score a few unanswered goals at home, because they clearly look more confident and stronger. Honestly, I wasn't expecting a draw in this match

You are right that Frankfurt played hard and committed so many fouls that they got a red card in the 78th minute. Frankfurt did this because they were
forced to stop the movement of Barcelona players who had more control over the ball. From the start I never expected the match to end in a draw,
because Barcelona should have won the game. Based on Xavi's comments after the game ended, Xavi said he was a little disappointed with Barcelona's
game which created fewer chances, but Xavi is quite happy with the result. I understand why Xavi is quite happy with Barcelona's draw, because the match
in the second leg will be played at the Camp Nou, this will be a distinct advantage for Barcelona. So it's possible that Barcelona can indeed win in
the second leg, like the previous matches against Napoli and Galatasaray, Barcelona always play well in the second leg. Hopefully Barcelona can beat
Frankfurt, because after all Barcelona is one of the favorite teams that is predicted to win the Europa League trophy. Moreover, this season the Europa
League trophy is the only trophy that can be obtained by Barcelona.

Yes, in theory it could get it, because there are no really strong opponents on the horizon, maybe 1-2 teams, but they will obviously make it to the final. I, too, was basically happy with the game, because you could see that Barcelona are fine and have good attacks, but it was the opponent who defended very well. With the support of the fans at Camp Nou, Barcelona have almost a 100% chance of winning

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on April 08, 2022, 02:15:36 PM

Barcelona couldn't achieve a good success against Frankfurt last night. I was expecting them to win here and have a good advantage already. But they had a huge problem against Frankfurt and the game ended in a draw by 1-1. Frankfurt didn't play like in the first half later on. If they did, maybe Barcelona would have even lost this game. And the red card was an opportunity for them but they couldn't turn it into an advantage either. However, I still feel like they are going to move Frankfurt out of their way in Camp Nou.

I was thinking that Barcelona will easily or quickly eliminate Frankfurt since I saw the fixtures. But few hours to the match I followed up Frankfurt and saw that they have been doing great and they have no place in their local league, they only have the europa league to achieve something this year, I knew that the match will be very difficult for Barcelona.

Though I didn't view the match, but when I followed the highlights I saw what happened. But I am hopeful that Frankfurt might not survive in camp nou in the returning leg.

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