UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 87.

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You cannot compare them in all aspects, but certain teams can be compared with each other. lately in the league, Barcelona has been doing very well, and so has the Europa League. In the early part of the season, Barcelona underperformed both in the league and in the Champions League, resulting in a disastrous elimination. In that respect, we do see certain parallels in this performance curve. When you're good, you normally perform well on both platforms, and when you're bad it's the same story. There are always exceptions, can have to do with whether someone can charge for a competition with motivation.

Well, in fact, I think that Barcelona has a lot to do against any Europa League team. For me, both the Spanish league and the Europa League teams are very complete teams with a very high level of football.

I know that for now Barcelona has a great way of playing and this is thanks to Xavi, players that nobody wants, Xavi takes them and turns them into pure gold, I don't know how many replacement generations there are in Barcelona's academies, but I think that It's time for them to show themselves, for me the key is in the new generations.

Even though we think that Barcelona is going to win the Europa League, in my opinion it is not going to be easy at all because the teams that are facing Barcelona is there for a reason, they are good enough to achieve that spot. So, Barcelona needs to be careful.

Barcelona has been playing well recently and without the help of Xavier Hernández, It wouldn't have been possible. I think this team is going to achieve greater things in the next season.

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Barcelona has the best team, and they play the best. I do wonder if they will be consistent enough in the coming matches. And a team like RB Leipzig doesn't just put you aside. That will still be difficult. They have now drawn favorably against Eintracht Frankfurt. They will probably make it to the final, but they could also use another success. This is mainly due to Xavi and the new policy. And then they will also play the Champions League next season if they win the Europa League.

With Barcelona's performance as it is now, it can be said that they are one of the strongest candidates now, maybe I can even say that more than 60% of the champions are definitely held by them with their current performance and game but indeed it will still be very difficult if this happens. there are other strong teams that are ready to block.
Leipziga could be a stumbling block but they have to think about Westham first if that is to happen

Even though Barcelona's performance is improving now, in my opinion, Barcelona's performance is slightly different between La Liga and
the Europa League. If we look at the last 5 matches in La Liga Barcelona managed to get 5 wins in a row, and one of the victories obtained
was by beating Real Madrid with a very large score. Meanwhile, in the Europa League, Barcelona's performance was a bit disappointing.
which in the round of 16 when facing Galatasaray Barcelona in the first leg only played a draw, and in the second leg Barcelona only won
by only one goal difference. Even though Galatasaray have quality players that are far below Barcelona, and also Galatasaray in the Turkish league
are playing very badly this season. So Barcelona should be able to beat Galatasaray easily, so Barcelona really have to be careful when playing
in the quarter-finals against Frankfurt. Hopefully Barcelona can show their best performance in the Europa League as shown in La Liga.
Moreover, the Europa League is probably the only trophy that can be won by Barcelona this season, which is Xavi's first trophy as Barcelona coach.

You can't compare the Spanish league with the Europa League, the Europa League is just two legs home and away and is played by middle champions in Europe, they are all strong matches in the Europa League but in the Spanish league there is always a second chance and is a long road you can always correct your mistakes in another match, I think Xavi Hernandez men has what it takes to beat the German side and go to the semi final.

You cannot compare them in all aspects, but certain teams can be compared with each other. lately in the league, Barcelona has been doing very well, and so has the Europa League. In the early part of the season, Barcelona underperformed both in the league and in the Champions League, resulting in a disastrous elimination. In that respect, we do see certain parallels in this performance curve. When you're good, you normally perform well on both platforms, and when you're bad it's the same story. There are always exceptions, can have to do with whether someone can charge for a competition with motivation.

Well, in fact, I think that Barcelona has a lot to do against any Europa League team. For me, both the Spanish league and the Europa League teams are very complete teams with a very high level of football.

I know that for now Barcelona has a great way of playing and this is thanks to Xavi, players that nobody wants, Xavi takes them and turns them into pure gold, I don't know how many replacement generations there are in Barcelona's academies, but I think that It's time for them to show themselves, for me the key is in the new generations.

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Barcelona have five days left to play against Frankfurt in the quarter final round. The first match is in Germany and Barcelona's odd to win this match is 1.70 now. This is a quite favorable odd to bet on I presume. Barcelona are the absolute favourite in this matchup already and I think they will play big in the first match. And this would help them get a decent win to secure themselves before the match in Camp Nou. Barcelona are starting to feel the title now and this is another obstacle ahead.

Frankfurt have many days taking rest than Barcelona just got 5 days only before away match, last Saturday Frankfurt have match although just getting draw but they have almost 7 days for preparing match against with Barcelona, but is not advantage for Frankfurt because last several match on domestic league always got bad result different with Barcelona always success get 3 points on domestic league. Although different competition I think Barcelona will easy winning on the 1st leg and make step to semifinal become easy on 2nd leg.

There is no doubt that Barcelona is the favorite against Eintracht Frankfurt. If the difference in rest was 2 and 4 days it might have made a difference, but if it is 5 and 7 days it won't have that much of an impact on the game anymore.
I am not a fan of Barcelona, but the indications are that this season in European cups could be very good for them. Strong team reinforcements are in the pipeline, which may make Barcelona pleasantly surprise us all.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on April 04, 2022, 12:47:10 PM

atalanta vs leipzig is predicted to be won by the host (atalanta), but I predict this match will end in a "draw" because leipzig and atalanta are the same strong team. my score prediction is 1-1.

As mentioned above by masulum, Atalanta isn't that top these rounds in Serie A while Leipzig improved a lot and literally destroyed Dortmund in Bundesliga.
Obviously everything could happen in European competitions but I think Leipzig will win this game or at least get a draw home.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on April 04, 2022, 12:47:10 PM

atalanta vs leipzig is predicted to be won by the host (atalanta), but I predict this match will end in a "draw" because leipzig and atalanta are the same strong team. my score prediction is 1-1.

Leipzig have a better game than Atalanta. In my opinion, Atalanta will find it difficult to get 3 points in this match. In the domestic league, Atalanta was lose by Napoli, while Leipzig won with 4 goals against Dortmund, the result of this match, is likely to affect the confidence of each team. But for Leipzig, they can play with more confidence and more confidence since getting good reaults. A draw is also not a good choice for Atalanta, because next they will probably be more difficult to win.

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Quote from: Distraction on April 02, 2022, 08:07:45 AM

Barcelona have five days left to play against Frankfurt in the quarter final round. The first match is in Germany and Barcelona's odd to win this match is 1.70 now. This is a quite favorable odd to bet on I presume. Barcelona are the absolute favourite in this matchup already and I think they will play big in the first match. And this would help them get a decent win to secure themselves before the match in Camp Nou. Barcelona are starting to feel the title now and this is another obstacle ahead.

Frankfurt have many days taking rest than Barcelona just got 5 days only before away match, last Saturday Frankfurt have match although just getting draw but they have almost 7 days for preparing match against with Barcelona, but is not advantage for Frankfurt because last several match on domestic league always got bad result different with Barcelona always success get 3 points on domestic league. Although different competition I think Barcelona will easy winning on the 1st leg and make step to semifinal become easy on 2nd leg.

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atalanta vs leipzig is predicted to be won by the host (atalanta), but I predict this match will end in a "draw" because leipzig and atalanta are the same strong team. my score prediction is 1-1.

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Quote from: Distraction on April 02, 2022, 08:07:45 AM

Barcelona have five days left to play against Frankfurt in the quarter final round. The first match is in Germany and Barcelona's odd to win this match is 1.70 now. This is a quite favorable odd to bet on I presume. Barcelona are the absolute favourite in this matchup already and I think they will play big in the first match. And this would help them get a decent win to secure themselves before the match in Camp Nou. Barcelona are starting to feel the title now and this is another obstacle ahead.

Their performance in the last matches started to get better and better. Favorite team in this match will definitely be Barcelona. Both in the league and in the European matches, they approached their old performances again.
The rate given for the bet is good, you can evaluate it. I don't think Barcelona will leave this game by losing points. It will be a good match for them

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Quote from: Marvell1 on April 04, 2022, 10:00:17 AM

Barcelona did really well to achieve second place in the league table. I really don't think that they will be able to get close to Real Madrid even though they have won the match at hand, the points difference is just too big. But at the same time, there also needs to concentrate on staying away from the teams below. and they also need to concentrate on winning the Europa league because they really need the money. so, this is going to be a tricky decision for the coach.

Barcelona's appearance is slowly getting better, Xavi really got Barcelona back on a track. After beating Real Madrid in El Clasico, Barcelona was also able to overthrow Sevilla at Camp Nou and managed to move up to 2nd place. With performances that have continued to climb since being handled by Xavi, Barcelona is now one of the teams that has the greatest chance of winning the Europa League.
Barcelona's opportunity to step into the semifinals is quite open. On paper and on the field, the quality and a materiality of Frankfurt players is still far below the quality of players owned by Real Madrid and Sevilla. I think Barcelona will complete the mission in the Europa League perfectly, while getting some money to lighten the burden on the club.

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That's a joke saying the team that are suppose to be champions of the Europa League have just one percent chance of winning, Barcelona are playing well better than the teams remaining in the tournament or competition but is football the trophy is open for everybody,I see West ham United as a very determined team to lift this trophy because is s pathway for them to enter the champions League incase they couldn't not make the top four, samething with Atlanta they are good teams.

Barcelona are the most stable team in the Europe League. And have high possibility of winning the trophy. You can't probably compare West Ham to Barcelona in term of performance. Barca are far more in a better shape than West Ham. Aside Barcelona, Atalanta and Leipzig are the other teams which are quite strong currently in the Europe League. Although, I understand that we often witness surprise scores in Football which we didn't expect. But, I think Barcelona will lift the Europe League trophy this season.

Barcelona won against Sevilla in their last match. Even though it was not that convincing it was still a win for Barcelona and they are also playing really consistently and bringing the results also.

I think they are really motivated right now and obviously they are better than West Ham, at least right now they are performing like one.

so, I really think Barcelona is going to win the match against West Ham. and they are going to be ready for West Ham.

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Barcelona did really well to achieve second place in the league table. I really don't think that they will be able to get close to Real Madrid even though they have won the match at hand, the points difference is just too big. But at the same time, there also needs to concentrate on staying away from the teams below. and they also need to concentrate on winning the Europa league because they really need the money. so, this is going to be a tricky decision for the coach.

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We should not risk the entire squad (I mean, let out all the newcomers), I think the main players will sit on the bench, and then take to the field if necessary. I think now it's better for the team to rest and gain strength for more serious matches, but everything depends on the coach, maybe we'll see the full squad in the next match...

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In terms of being competitive, I think the Braga - Rangers matchup is going to be exactly like that. Both of them eliminated very tough opponents in the previous rounds. Braga eliminated Monaco last and Rangers eliminated Dortmund two rounds ago. These are very good achievements for these teams certainly. And it is really hard to predict the result of the first leg now. But I'm feeling like Braga are going to be winning the game by 2-1 and secure a nice advantage.

Yeah, I'm keen on Rangers. They've been rocked in the Scottish league though, losing the title to Celtic inch by inch, and the weekend's defeat would be a hammer blow, after winning so many of those clashes in recent times.

I've stopped betting on them after Gerrard left, odds simply aren't good enough after their performance last season but I think Rangers winning and scoring 2 goals sounds like a value bet for what should be a lively affair. They'll get shit odds at home though if they do that (making Braga the value on return leg).

In the Rangers v Braga game, my favorite is Braga. This Braga can defeat and eliminate Rangers. Very lucky in the first Matches, easy teams came. But now that we are rivals, it is strong. If they want the championship, they will want to get an advantageous score in the first match. I hope it will be a game with lots of goals in terms of goals. After their loss to Celtic, success in the European league should be their new focus.

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Quote from: lulumiya on April 03, 2022, 04:46:35 PM

In terms of being competitive, I think the Braga - Rangers matchup is going to be exactly like that. Both of them eliminated very tough opponents in the previous rounds. Braga eliminated Monaco last and Rangers eliminated Dortmund two rounds ago. These are very good achievements for these teams certainly. And it is really hard to predict the result of the first leg now. But I'm feeling like Braga are going to be winning the game by 2-1 and secure a nice advantage.

Yeah, I'm keen on Rangers. They've been rocked in the Scottish league though, losing the title to Celtic inch by inch, and the weekend's defeat would be a hammer blow, after winning so many of those clashes in recent times.

I've stopped betting on them after Gerrard left, odds simply aren't good enough after their performance last season but I think Rangers winning and scoring 2 goals sounds like a value bet for what should be a lively affair. They'll get shit odds at home though if they do that (making Braga the value on return leg).

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Maybe in this case there are several factors there, I think for their journey to start when Napoli it was when Xavi wanted to try and when the meeting with Galatasaray was when they wanted to focus on El Clasico, now I think their focus will be changed, La Liga title is already it must be almost zero fighting for it in my opinion and there is no reason to focus there and focus on something that is certain which is the Europa League now because this could be a thirst quencher in getting a trophy

The chance that Barcelona will still become champion in the competition is perhaps 1%. It also doesn't mean that they don't put any energy into the competition at all. they can still go full for 2nd place there, which is a good performance considering the dramatic first season start. The focus will be on the competition and also on the EL. Become 1nd wil not be to any satisfaction for Barcelona, but it is a good start for the next season in this shape.

What do they expect in La Liga? they will only be good to be in second position there and that can't be denied anymore because their chances are slim and almost non-existent but for position 2 I don't think this is too grandiose because tomorrow they could get that position.
For the Europa League they will definitely make a splash here, they have lost quite a lot of money due to being eliminated in the Champions League and indeed the only solace is the Europa League now

In my opinion, a very successful result in second place in La Liga. When you become one of the first two teams, you already have the right to participate in the champions league directly from the groups. As such, a significant amount of money is added to the cash register as income. Of course, if they win in the Europa League, they will be more profitable. They can only console themselves for their elimination in the Champions League if they win the Europa League trophy.

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I don't think you got it right, he doesn't say that Barcelona has only a 1% chance of winning the Europa League but that he only has a 1% chance of winning the Spanish championship, and I agree with that.
Barcelona also can no longer win the Spanish Cup and the only trophy they can win this year is the Europa League.
Therefore, I believe that Xavi will take this competition seriously and do everything to make Barcelona win it.
Realistically, the competition is weak and Barcelona is the main favorite to win the competition.

a few months ago, before the arrival of Xavi, who would have thought that Barcelona, in the financial hole and with terrible results they were in, would have a real chance of winning a championship these days? Even the most optimistic would doubt that. Xavi has done a commendable job.
As for the Europa League, despite Barcelona beating Galatasara and advancing to the quarter-finals, I don't know if he will be able to lift that trophy.
I admire Xavi's work and the challenges that Barcelona has already overcome, but I believe that the house is being prepared to receive the triumphs that are yet to come, it is not yet time to think about achievements.

I agree with you, but him thinking about achievement is also necessary because overcoming needs determination before it can be done.
We all know xavi is the straingh and key player of Barcelona and we all are in the support of Barcelona to win Europa league.
To make our dreams come through Xavi would have to put more efforts and take things more serious than ever to achieve the target.
Barcelona has a 1% chance of winning the Spanish championship and I here also agree to that, not that they have 1% chance to win the Europa league think about it.

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I don't think you got it right, he doesn't say that Barcelona has only a 1% chance of winning the Europa League but that he only has a 1% chance of winning the Spanish championship, and I agree with that.
Barcelona also can no longer win the Spanish Cup and the only trophy they can win this year is the Europa League.
Therefore, I believe that Xavi will take this competition seriously and do everything to make Barcelona win it.
Realistically, the competition is weak and Barcelona is the main favorite to win the competition.

a few months ago, before the arrival of Xavi, who would have thought that Barcelona, in the financial hole and with terrible results they were in, would have a real chance of winning a championship these days? Even the most optimistic would doubt that. Xavi has done a commendable job.
As for the Europa League, despite Barcelona beating Galatasara and advancing to the quarter-finals, I don't know if he will be able to lift that trophy.
I admire Xavi's work and the challenges that Barcelona has already overcome, but I believe that the house is being prepared to receive the triumphs that are yet to come, it is not yet time to think about achievements.

Barcelona back to top performance after success got new sponsor and January window transfer as the key why Barcelona reach to 2nd position standing right now, I think Xavi success got key player on last window transfer and impact with Barcelona performance. I think against with Frankfurt will give opportunity for Barcelona lead to semifinal and have chance as Spain team play on UEFA Europe League final, keep consistent performance on domestic league and Europe League will make many predicting Barcelona as favorite team will get trophy on Europe League.

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Quote from: borovichok on April 02, 2022, 08:27:35 AM

That's a joke saying the team that are suppose to be champions of the Europa League have just one percent chance of winning, Barcelona are playing well better than the teams remaining in the tournament or competition but is football the trophy is open for everybody,I see West ham United as a very determined team to lift this trophy because is s pathway for them to enter the champions League incase they couldn't not make the top four, samething with Atlanta they are good teams.

Barcelona are the most stable team in the Europe League. And have high possibility of winning the trophy. You can't probably compare West Ham to Barcelona in term of performance. Barca are far more in a better shape than West Ham. Aside Barcelona, Atalanta and Leipzig are the other teams which are quite strong currently in the Europe League. Although, I understand that we often witness surprise scores in Football which we didn't expect. But, I think Barcelona will lift the Europe League trophy this season.

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In terms of being competitive, I think the Braga - Rangers matchup is going to be exactly like that. Both of them eliminated very tough opponents in the previous rounds. Braga eliminated Monaco last and Rangers eliminated Dortmund two rounds ago. These are very good achievements for these teams certainly. And it is really hard to predict the result of the first leg now. But I'm feeling like Braga are going to be winning the game by 2-1 and secure a nice advantage.

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Barcelona have a busy schedule this week, before facing Frankfurt in Germany, Barcelona must face Sevilla first in La Liga and of course they have only 4 days to prepare for the Europa League quarter-finals match, with a busy schedule of course the fatigue factor of players will be able to This will be a problem for Xavi later, and that's why I think we can not make Barcelona the absolute favorite to win because it could be that Frankfurt will give a surprise later, especially since they have a lot of time to prepare physically and mentally for their players to face Barcelona in the match.

Do they really need it though? I mean sure Sevilla game will be "a bit" more difficult and that is understandable. However, Frankfurt doesn't look like the type of game they really need to be getting ready at all. It feels like game that they could win even when they are tired, because I see them as that much better.

Then they will play Levante, which is not a problem at all for them if you ask me, then again Frankfurt so pretty easy games. They could even rest some of the players in levante game and get back to Frankfurt game a lot better. This is of course where I see them, if you think they are not as good as that, then you could think I am wrong.

I honestly think that even though the future matches for Barcelona in the coming week seem a little easy but they really should not underestimate any of these opponents. I think they can try to rotate the squad and give some players on the bench a chance to play but obviously, they will need to be careful and execute their plans very well. Because we have seen great teams slow just because of not respecting the opponent enough and taking things easy.

We should not risk the entire squad (I mean, let out all the newcomers), I think the main players will sit on the bench, and then take to the field if necessary. I think now it's better for the team to rest and gain strength for more serious matches, but everything depends on the coach, maybe we'll see the full squad in the next match...

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The chance that Barcelona will still become champion in the competition is perhaps 1%. It also doesn't mean that they don't put any energy into the competition at all. they can still go full for 2nd place there, which is a good performance considering the dramatic first season start. The focus will be on the competition and also on the EL. Become 1nd wil not be to any satisfaction for Barcelona, but it is a good start for the next season in this shape.

I can say that you are not right about this, saying Barcelona got only 1% chance to win Europa League. Did you know that Barcelona being in Champions League before make the club not to have the chance of 1%, also Barcelona are playing good now which is another reason Barcelona is having over 50% or more percent chance to win. Among the clubs that made the to quarter final, Barcelona, Atlanta and West Ham have more chance to win the League this season. And with what I have seen, very possible Villarreal or Barcelona win the League.

I don't think you got it right, he doesn't say that Barcelona has only a 1% chance of winning the Europa League but that he only has a 1% chance of winning the Spanish championship, and I agree with that.
Barcelona also can no longer win the Spanish Cup and the only trophy they can win this year is the Europa League.
Therefore, I believe that Xavi will take this competition seriously and do everything to make Barcelona win it.
Realistically, the competition is weak and Barcelona is the main favorite to win the competition.

That's a joke saying the team that are suppose to be champions of the Europa League have just one percent chance of winning, Barcelona are playing well better than the teams remaining in the tournament or competition but is football the trophy is open for everybody,I see West ham United as a very determined team to lift this trophy because is s pathway for them to enter the champions League incase they couldn't not make the top four, samething with Atlanta they are good teams.

Personally, it seems to me that Xavi came too late this season for Barcelona to overtake Real in the Spanish league standings and win the Spanish title.
Next season it will be a completely different story because at the moment Barcelona looks like a much better team than Real.
As I said, the only real chance for the Barcelona trophy this season is the Europa League and I believe Xavi will prepare the team for that and next season Barcelona will be in the game again for all the trophies.

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