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October 12, 2024, 11:01:04 AM
England defeat to Greece was due to poor coordination between players. They managed to dominate the match by recording 60% ball possession, but their attack was very bad. In my opinion, the Greek victory due to England is still trapped in the same hole, the England coach always has difficulty forming a balanced team, although there are many star players, but when they are put together in a team, it has not been able to show positive results. England's starting XI included Cole Palmer, Jude Bellingham, Phil Foden, Bukayo Saka and Anthony Gordon, but all of them were disappointing.
Congratulations to Greece for this win.

My only exposure in European football was through the recent Euro 2024 championship, in which England performed greatly. Apart from that, I've got zero experience in judging how England or any other team performed, because I haven't participated in watching these championships. I don't doubt what you've said, England has a great team, and I also believe that they were a little uncoordinated and could have defended better, preventing the last goal in the last few minutes. Greece on the other hand, got eliminated in the Euro 2024 tournament, thus, this win caught me by surprise.
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October 12, 2024, 09:57:29 AM
I chose Portugal as the winning team in this fight.
My prediction, Portugal will narrowly win. Choosing Over I don't think it's the right choice.
Both teams can score goals are options that can give us winning for betting.
I'd choose draw than Portugal to win.

There were many upsets happen, top teams aren't that strong anymore except Spain.

From the last five match, Portugal can't score more than 2 goals, this is bad since they're having good attacking players over defensive players. Poland also not a bad team though, their players are played in top 5 leagues.
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October 12, 2024, 08:48:26 AM
There are some good matches today. For example, Hungary vs Netherlands looks like it will be a good match or Bosnia and Herzegovina vs Germany. But I will watch the Turkiye - Montenegro match. Turkiye have 4 points in the group, Montenegro have no points. Turkiye are the leader in the group, Montenegro are last. On paper everything is in favor of Turkiye. But I think Montenegro are not an easy opponent. Prosineçki had worked in Turkiye before. And he left good impressions. I will bet on both teams to score in this match. Because Turkiye have some problems in defense. If Montenegro score one goal, everything will be easy for my bet.
There were good matches in the Nations League today. I also gave priority to the Turkey and Montenegro match and I am following the match. The first half ended in a goalless draw. Turkey made many attempts, accurate shots, effective attacks ended in goalless matches. Montenegro closed down more and tried to defend.

In the second half, Irfan Can Kahveci entered the game and scored the first goal of the Turkish national team 5-6 minutes after entering the game, the match is still ongoing, minute 90, I hope we do not make a mistake and finish the match like this.

Before the match I predicted that Turkiye would win the match. But I thought we would watch a match with more goals. Because our defensive players have a lower profile than our attacking players. We have very good offensive players like Arda Güler, Hakan Çalhanoğlu and Kenan Yıldız. But our defensive players have been in a decline in terms of performance recently. Merih Demirel is playing in the Arab League. Çağlar Söyüncü can't even play well at Fenerbahçe. Abdülkerim Bardakçı hasn't performed as well this season as he did last season. Ozan Kabak hasn't returned to his old form after injury. For this reason, and because it had better odds, I bet on both teams to score. But I was wrong.
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October 12, 2024, 07:58:08 AM
lmfao It's hard to trust some teams in the Nations League. It's not as predictable as league matches. Looking at yesterday's matches, I could never have predicted it before the match.
Today is the Turkey - Montenegro match. I remember Turkey won the last match 2-1.
Montenegro is not a very good team when it comes to winning.

Last night, we were comfortable with controlling the game against Montenegro in fact but there was a serious problem. We just had huge problems on scoring the winning goal.  Sad

I will give Montenegro that about their defending of course. They resisted very well as a team. But I still don't find our performance against them good enough. I wonder when Montella will stop using Barış Alper Yılmaz in the centre-forward position. Why wouldn't you give Bertuğ Yıldırım a chance from the start?

Better Southgate than Carsley he put Bellingham as a striker and Foden is this following in the footsteps of formations like they play in clubs? Whereas Watkins and Solanke are pure strikers.

And this is what Nations League matches are like - sometimes games don't try as hard as club competitions - because the international break is just boring and even if we bet it will make us emotional.

This using Bellingham as a striker thing started with Ancelotti. But he just wanted to do an experiment and saw it wasn't very ideal. I don't know why would Lee Carsley do the same for no reason while he has 2 great options among the substitutes?  Huh
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October 12, 2024, 07:56:22 AM
Poland vs Portugal

I chose Portugal as the winning team in this fight.
My prediction, Portugal will narrowly win. Choosing Over I don't think it's the right choice.
Both teams can score goals are options that can give us winning for betting.

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Serbia vs Switzerland

Greater draw opportunities to occur. And I chose this fight a draw.

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Spain vs Denmark

Spain win. That's my prediction. Denmark will stop from the two wins that have been obtained in home games. This time Denmark in his away match will lose.
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October 12, 2024, 07:26:06 AM
There are some good matches today. For example, Hungary vs Netherlands looks like it will be a good match or Bosnia and Herzegovina vs Germany. But I will watch the Turkiye - Montenegro match. Turkiye have 4 points in the group, Montenegro have no points. Turkiye are the leader in the group, Montenegro are last. On paper everything is in favor of Turkiye. But I think Montenegro are not an easy opponent. Prosineçki had worked in Turkiye before. And he left good impressions. I will bet on both teams to score in this match. Because Turkiye have some problems in defense. If Montenegro score one goal, everything will be easy for my bet.
Hungary is not so good in performance compared to the Netherlands which is a very strong team, they are at different Levels in my opinion, this match should be quite easy for the Netherlands to beat Hungary to get 3 extra points.
League A group three will be dominated by 2 teams Germany and Netherlands, those are the teams that will qualify for the next round easily because Hungary and Bosnia & Herzegovina are not worthy opponents for them.
The game is just different the way you thought it will be because the game is very interesting,  in the first half Hungary gave Netherlands a tough game and they were able to score one game. I think the performance of Hungary is not bad like the way you thought it will be, though Netherlands are playing quite fine but from the performance of Hungary right from the beginning of the game, they also have chances of winning the game and they are already leading the game.

Hungary defensive game is really giving Netherlands a tough game . Netherlands is a very good team and I never thought this game will be so tough for then, since their is still time in the game they may have luck to score a goal.
But it is really quite crazy, the class of Hungary can hold a draw that was brought by the Dutch, he was made difficult, even the goal that was first in this match was created by Hungary, I did not expect it like this, but in the end the Dutch can equalize in the second half and that makes me a little calm, and indeed as a whole the Dutch played quite aggressively by mastering the ball almost the entire match, only they could not create a goal at once again other than the equalizing goal in the 83rd minute, maybe we are not easy underestimated the team that could be an underdog but it was crazy in fast time.
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October 12, 2024, 06:35:28 AM
The worst thing is how the players treat the Nations League, this tournament was not the most important before, and now the players openly say that they do not want to play for the national team in this tournament. I can understand why this is happening, we are already seeing how some players are starting to get injured, perhaps because of the very busy schedule. And those who do not refuse to play clearly do not want to strain themselves too much in such games, and watching such games is also not fun.
I am in line with the players attitude about this tournament, this particular tournament is very much unnecessary for crying out loud these guys ain't robots but humans. The organizers really do care about the incentives they stand to make from it than the players position about the tournament else they would have scrapped it long ago. I recall how Bukayo Saka was forced to leave the pitch due to injury sustain during the match between England and Isreal. Previously it was Odegaard. And all of these leaves players scared for their health that many had to give excuses just to avoid playing in this tournament. Isn't that a sufficient reason to halt the idea about these games for now?
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October 12, 2024, 06:33:55 AM
I also thought that betting on Portugal made sense, but: despite Portugal's serious approach to the matter, this is the League of Nations. Portugal is already comfortably leading and today they only need to play a draw (to win in the return game), so in my opinion the risk is not worth the profit. And if you make a reliable bet on Portugal double chance, the odds will be negligible.
Portugal always play seriously in any competition. If they are able to get 3 points in this match, they will be more comfortable in the standings and in the next match they can rest some of their main players to provide physical fitness.
It is not wrong to take Portugal to win on a bet in normal time or what we know as a 1x2 bet.
I am hesitant about betting on the Spain vs Denmark match. A draw is the most likely scenario to happen.

Yes, probably because of Ronaldo who is always motivated and expects the same from his teammates. The quotes at the moment are as follows:

5.20 - 4.10 - 1.61

Still, I think that betting on Portugal is not justified because the odds are too low. Poland is not a weak team, this is a home game for them and as I already wrote, Portugal does not need to play strictly for a win.
In the Spain vs Denmark game, Spain's odds are rated at 1.47 and for me this looks more attractive: home game + Spain is undeniably stronger.
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October 12, 2024, 06:07:42 AM
Poland vs Portugal
Serbia vs Switzerland
Spain vs Denmark

Three match options ready to be bet on. I think if the three matches meet the odds to be bet on, then I will not add another match to chase bigger odds.
Portugal wants to continue their winning record. If they win over Poland, then they in the group continue their 3 wins in 3 matches.
Serbia wants 3 points to anticipate Spain losing to Denmark. Playing in Spain does not necessarily mean Denmark can get points.
I could place a fortune for Portugal to win their match against Poland today, I just have this confidence in me that Portugal is going to win, Poland is in a very poor foam right now, winning just one n their last five international games, the win even against Scotland in a 2-3 score line. The Poland defense normally conceive every time they play, then imagine them facing the Portuguese venomous attack who haven't failed to score since the beginning of the nations league qualifiers. Portugal is definitely winning this one today, I hope Ronald also get to add to his tally today.

The Spain vs Denmark will be an interesting match to watch, the Spanish team will be missing some key players due to injury the likes of Dani carvajal and Rodri. These are players with alot of quality who most times dictate the Spanish style of Play, let hope the the Denmark team doesn't take advantage of the missing players and exploit them. Though if I'm to pick a bet here it going to be Denmark to score.

As for the Serbia vs Switzerland I can't say much about this match because these are teams that are almost at the same level so it going to be a hard to pick who the winner is going to be but I rather stake my bet on both team to score.
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October 12, 2024, 06:00:08 AM
Portugal always play seriously in any competition. If they are able to get 3 points in this match, they will be more comfortable in the standings and in the next match they can rest some of their main players to provide physical fitness.
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They are the clear favorites of their group and publicly say that they want to win this competition, while Croatia just wants to stay in the strongest group without any pressure to try to win this competition again. Today, Croatia is playing at home against Scotland, which is (allegedly) in big trouble with injured players (as many as 12 of them). Therefore, Luka Modric will not be the oldest player on the field, because the Scottish goalkeeper is 41.

It seems like an easy victory for Croatia, although the Scots can sometimes be a tough nut to crack, they showed it in the last game against Portugal. The question is whether Croatia will finally start functioning in attack or whether they will continue to score a maximum of 2 goals per game.
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October 12, 2024, 05:33:32 AM
Poland vs Portugal
Serbia vs Switzerland
Spain vs Denmark

Three match options ready to be bet on. I think if the three matches meet the odds to be bet on, then I will not add another match to chase bigger odds.
Portugal wants to continue their winning record. If they win over Poland, then they in the group continue their 3 wins in 3 matches.
Serbia wants 3 points to anticipate Spain losing to Denmark. Playing in Spain does not necessarily mean Denmark can get points.

I also thought that betting on Portugal made sense, but: despite Portugal's serious approach to the matter, this is the League of Nations. Portugal is already comfortably leading and today they only need to play a draw (to win in the return game), so in my opinion the risk is not worth the profit. And if you make a reliable bet on Portugal double chance, the odds will be negligible.
Portugal always play seriously in any competition. If they are able to get 3 points in this match, they will be more comfortable in the standings and in the next match they can rest some of their main players to provide physical fitness.
It is not wrong to take Portugal to win on a bet in normal time or what we know as a 1x2 bet.
I am hesitant about betting on the Spain vs Denmark match. A draw is the most likely scenario to happen.
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October 12, 2024, 05:22:40 AM
Poland vs Portugal
Serbia vs Switzerland
Spain vs Denmark

Three match options ready to be bet on. I think if the three matches meet the odds to be bet on, then I will not add another match to chase bigger odds.
Portugal wants to continue their winning record. If they win over Poland, then they in the group continue their 3 wins in 3 matches.
Serbia wants 3 points to anticipate Spain losing to Denmark. Playing in Spain does not necessarily mean Denmark can get points.
These three matches have potentials of three points by the big teams; Portugal to win away from to keep their winning streak, Switzerland to also win away from home, while Spain to win at home. Adding other games to this can be very risky even though these once are not guarantee, but if everything go as expected, these teams are suppose to win their games.

Denmark vs Spain game will be a tough match, a battle of first and second position in their group because Denmark already has six points as they won their first two matches; while Switzerland will battle for a way of getting there first three points because they lost their first two matches, so they will try their best to win their match against Serbia.
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October 12, 2024, 05:04:58 AM
Poland vs Portugal
Serbia vs Switzerland
Spain vs Denmark

Three match options ready to be bet on. I think if the three matches meet the odds to be bet on, then I will not add another match to chase bigger odds.
Portugal wants to continue their winning record. If they win over Poland, then they in the group continue their 3 wins in 3 matches.
Serbia wants 3 points to anticipate Spain losing to Denmark. Playing in Spain does not necessarily mean Denmark can get points.

I also thought that betting on Portugal made sense, but: despite Portugal's serious approach to the matter, this is the League of Nations. Portugal is already comfortably leading and today they only need to play a draw (to win in the return game), so in my opinion the risk is not worth the profit. And if you make a reliable bet on Portugal double chance, the odds will be negligible.
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October 12, 2024, 04:48:43 AM
Poland vs Portugal
Serbia vs Switzerland
Spain vs Denmark

Three match options ready to be bet on. I think if the three matches meet the odds to be bet on, then I will not add another match to chase bigger odds.
Portugal wants to continue their winning record. If they win over Poland, then they in the group continue their 3 wins in 3 matches.
Serbia wants 3 points to anticipate Spain losing to Denmark. Playing in Spain does not necessarily mean Denmark can get points.
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October 12, 2024, 03:21:16 AM

The reason why I don't like the Nations league is because of the very little incentives to do well. I mean, we have France omitting players like Mbappe. We know that for more competitive games (World cup, euros, etc), they would definitely call in their best players but it's not the caee here.

For  Bellingham, he has been playing as a false 9 for a number pf times at Madrid. That role only got diminished because they have Mbappe and Endrick to fill those positions. So it's not the first time but I don't see why it should be the case because Bellingham is better off as an attacking midfielder providing his services to a classic 9 like Watkins that can score goals

The worst thing is how the players treat the Nations League, this tournament was not the most important before, and now the players openly say that they do not want to play for the national team in this tournament. I can understand why this is happening, we are already seeing how some players are starting to get injured, perhaps because of the very busy schedule. And those who do not refuse to play clearly do not want to strain themselves too much in such games, and watching such games is also not fun.
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October 12, 2024, 02:36:37 AM
Greece now takes the lead in Group 2, and this is League B  Grin
It's a funny, clownish tournament that will probably soon be cancelled, but England's failures are amusing.
I would also like to highlight the game between Norway and Slovenia, where thanks to a double by Haaland, Norway won and confidently continues to lead.
An unnecessary and pointless tournament serves no purpose other than tiring the players out even more. Players already play too many matches and with this tournament they play even more matches.

A tournament that should definitely be cancelled.

Recently many players have started to publicly show their discontent and there have even been talks about a strike. I would be glad if this happened, besides the fact that these garbage games are killing the health and strength of the players, they also disrupt the rhythm of the national championships. All tournaments are getting crumpled. What nonsense - 7-9 games have been played in the championships, we are already on our second break.
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October 12, 2024, 12:59:56 AM
That England loss is the highlight of today's Nation league fixtures. I hear that it's the first time ever that Greece have won at wembley so it's a pretty big deal for them. We're continuing to see a poor run of form for England. It was clear even during the Euro 2024 that this England team have something fundamentally wrong with the team despite having housing some of the biggest football stars, they couldn't beat a Greece team with plenty of unknowns. I know anything can happen in football but your eye brows start raising up when it happens one too many times.
I was completely unaware of the UEFA Nations League. I'm still quite new to football, so this is all new to me; I'm mostly participating in the Greek Super League. It came to my attention after seeing the game England vs. Greece, and to be honest, I wasn't expecting my country to win. It is a big deal firstly because of the death of George Baldock, and secondly because this is the first ever win against England in Wembley. It was a good game, even though I expected more from England, as their performance in Euro 2024 was outstanding.
England defeat to Greece was due to poor coordination between players. They managed to dominate the match by recording 60% ball possession, but their attack was very bad. In my opinion, the Greek victory due to England is still trapped in the same hole, the England coach always has difficulty forming a balanced team, although there are many star players, but when they are put together in a team, it has not been able to show positive results. England's starting XI included Cole Palmer, Jude Bellingham, Phil Foden, Bukayo Saka and Anthony Gordon, but all of them were disappointing.
Congratulations to Greece for this win.
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October 12, 2024, 12:59:17 AM
Even though Türkiye had a difficult time in the match, they managed to win 1-0.
The winning goal came in the match thanks to Kenan and İrfan, who came into the game later.
Montella started the match with the wrong squad. I think it is a big mistake for Barış Alper, who is out of shape, to take the field as a striker.
It wouldn't be a lie if I said that Barış Alper did not score any goals in national matches, especially in the European championship.
If he puts the faulty squad he brought out yesterday on the field against Iceland, the match against Iceland will be very difficult.
I would like to open a parenthesis about myself. Betting requires luck rather than just knowledge and skill.
I was blindly expecting 2.5 or even 3.5 goals in yesterday's match, but it ended 1-0. If I had made a coupon, I would have lost. Sometimes you can win by not betting.
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October 12, 2024, 12:50:19 AM
The Nations League continually reminds me of why I don't make any bet on this competition anymore.  Grin  We see surprising results quite often.

Generally we see it from the most favoured nations. For example England... What was that loss for real? You shouldn't lose to Greece at least while the game is at Wembley.

Greece where able to capitalise on almost every errors made by the England players, Pickford and the defense did poorly in this game, another game to show how poorly England's defense and goalie can be, they where lucky not to concede more in regarding how bad the defense did performed, I think they lack connection in the defense, also there were less attacking threats from England team.

Lee Carsley, the interim manager, had a really poor day. I didn't even like that 4-2-1-3 formation. Besides why would you prefer Bellingham as the main striker while you have options like Solanke and Watkins?
Jude Bellingham is an excellent player and he scored really lots of goals last season might just be the reason Lee Carsley  to try him as a false 9, though this shouldn't be done here since there're other available 9 outside Kane doing pretty well in their various clubs. He was limiting the team performance with his strategy and performance.

I don't often know if when coach becomes the England senior team coach their of thinking becomes weird, because even if he did use Jude Bellingham as a false 9, this should have been only for the first half since it was obvious Jude didn't do well in that position and often times he is outside the box, causing threats, with his shots to the goal. This was obvious reason to make some substitution and bring a proper 9 but he had to stay with something obviously not working, underestimating the current Greece performance, he deserves what he got.
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October 12, 2024, 12:21:04 AM
I was surprised by England's performance, they lost against their opponents Greece. England's performance in the game was not good, so the team lost the match, only Jude Bellingham managed to score a goal.  Although this was England's first defeat against Greece, England will probably try to improve their game in the future.
Greece are competing as one of the best teams in UEFA Nations League Group Two and they have already played three matches where they have won three matches. The last time they managed to win yesterday's match was 2-1 against mighty England. However, in this match, Greece took the lead in the 49th minute through the goal of their player E.Pavlidis. Jude Bellingham then equalized with a goal for England but it did not last long as Pavlidis scored another goal for Greece in extra time to put his side on the verge of victory. England won the first two matches but suffered their first defeat against Greece in the third match.
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