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Topic: UFC 200: Cormier vs. Jones 2 (Read 3568 times)

legendary
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July 15, 2016, 11:27:25 PM
Yeah, UFC 201 is boring as fuck. Only the main event is really good to watch Robbie Lawler vs Tyron Woodley and the rest is sucks, i bet only some people buy the ppv.
...and for Dana White to be able to sell this PPV event, they will cook up something like Lawler or Woodley being flagged by USADA for doping violation just the get media attention and gain more media mileage and Dana will then replace a figher with a new one with a name and all that fighter have is just a few weeks to train. There we got a story for Mr White now. UFC sucks!
legendary
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July 15, 2016, 11:24:33 PM
This is another blow to UFC, Brock Lesnar was flagged by USADA 4 days after UFC 200.

Surprised or Not Surprised? Im beggining to question more on the process of this doping test instead of questioning the fighthers. This figthers train for this even and they knowmhow strict is the testing for use of illegal substance so why are they going to gamble and ruin their reputation if they know that USADA will find out.

For me something is fishy here or the sponsors of this fighters may not be telling something to fighters as to what is the ingredients of their supplements tnat they give out.

It is hard not to look at him and say he must be taking steroids - just a mutant.

I feel for the Australia fighter having to fight a guy cheating like that (assuming he is).
sr. member
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July 15, 2016, 10:37:12 PM
That loss of Mark Hunt to Brock Lesnar and Miesha Tate to Amanda Nunes cost me 0.2 BTC, I never thought Amanda Nunes can be that aggressive and Tate will lose bloodied like hell.

Brock showed the world that he can take punches but still I am not convinced on his win. UFC 200 was sold and what the old owners want is a very good show to increase the value of UFC brand, they need this kind of publicity, they saw this coming so thy need to come up with a great show thats why they panicked when their initial main event faced some problem.

I think Brock Lesnar win because he's good at take down and Mark Hunt lose by it. This match is boring though, same as Jose aldo match. Both fighters not aggresive.
If you think UFC 200 is boring wait till you see the line up for UFC 201, I can only say the main event is the only reason to watch UFC 201, the rest are like side shows, here is the fight card;

Robbie Lawler Vs Tyron Woodley (Main Event)
Matt Brown Vs Jake Ellenberger
Rose Namajunas Vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz
Nikita Krylov Vs Ed Herman
Jorge Masvidal Vs Siyar Bahadurzada
Francisco Rivera Vs Erik Perez
Michael Graves Vs Bojan Valickovic
Anthony Hamilton Vs Damian Grabowski
Cesar Arzamendia Vs Damien Brown

Maybe I'll just wait for someone to show the fight live in facebook using a camera lol


Yeah, UFC 201 is boring as fuck. Only the main event is really good to watch Robbie Lawler vs Tyron Woodley and the rest is sucks, i bet only some people buy the ppv.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1006
July 15, 2016, 10:02:12 PM
This is another blow to UFC, Brock Lesnar was flagged by USADA 4 days after UFC 200.

Surprised or Not Surprised? Im beggining to question more on the process of this doping test instead of questioning the fighthers. This figthers train for this even and they knowmhow strict is the testing for use of illegal substance so why are they going to gamble and ruin their reputation if they know that USADA will find out.

For me something is fishy here or the sponsors of this fighters may not be telling something to fighters as to what is the ingredients of their supplements tnat they give out.
member
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July 14, 2016, 09:21:24 AM
What did Jones test positive for, a performance enhancer or something illegal?

Chael Sonnen said on the Joe Rogan Podcast Jones was caught with 2 estrogen blockers in his system, no performance enhancing per se, but synthetic testosterone masking agents. If I am not wrong I think it was Tamoxifen and Clomid.

Basically trying to lower his estrogen levels after using a full testosterone cycle, that is what he was busted with.

I'm not a Jones fan but until somebody from a lab says this i just don't buy it. Especially coming from Chael Sonnen.

I highly doubt Jones and/or his team did not know Nolvadex (or similar) would show up in his blood work, gimme a break.

The sponsors of Jon Jones specially those who supplies supplements "distanced" themselves after this issue surfaced before UFC 200 and according to entimports.com there are two of them, entimports.com did not name who are those sponsors.

What makes this UFC 200 sucks more is there are news that for DC to fight Anderson Silva, he must agree to a pay cut that originally agreed when he signed up for Jones. If UFC will keep Jon Jones then we might be looking at a future main event here since there are things to be settled in the octagon for DC and Jones.

Bold - that is just too fishy. Who knows, maybe they distanced themselves because Jon Jones is their "sponsored athlete" and they didn't want bad press...?
I watched his press conference and I really thought he was innocent... hell maybe he is just a great actor.

Yeah i saw that - feel bad for DC taking a pay cut because somebody else messed up.
legendary
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July 14, 2016, 12:44:33 AM
What did Jones test positive for, a performance enhancer or something illegal?

Chael Sonnen said on the Joe Rogan Podcast Jones was caught with 2 estrogen blockers in his system, no performance enhancing per se, but synthetic testosterone masking agents. If I am not wrong I think it was Tamoxifen and Clomid.

Basically trying to lower his estrogen levels after using a full testosterone cycle, that is what he was busted with.

I'm not a Jones fan but until somebody from a lab says this i just don't buy it. Especially coming from Chael Sonnen.

I highly doubt Jones and/or his team did not know Nolvadex (or similar) would show up in his blood work, gimme a break.

The sponsors of Jon Jones specially those who supplies supplements "distanced" themselves after this issue surfaced before UFC 200 and according to entimports.com there are two of them, entimports.com did not name who are those sponsors.

What makes this UFC 200 sucks more is there are news that for DC to fight Anderson Silva, he must agree to a pay cut that originally agreed when he signed up for Jones. If UFC will keep Jon Jones then we might be looking at a future main event here since there are things to be settled in the octagon for DC and Jones.
member
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July 13, 2016, 11:58:44 AM
What did Jones test positive for, a performance enhancer or something illegal?

Chael Sonnen said on the Joe Rogan Podcast Jones was caught with 2 estrogen blockers in his system, no performance enhancing per se, but synthetic testosterone masking agents. If I am not wrong I think it was Tamoxifen and Clomid.

Basically trying to lower his estrogen levels after using a full testosterone cycle, that is what he was busted with.

I'm not a Jones fan but until somebody from a lab says this i just don't buy it. Especially coming from Chael Sonnen.

I highly doubt Jones and/or his team did not know Nolvadex (or similar) would show up in his blood work, gimme a break.
sr. member
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July 13, 2016, 11:50:33 AM
What did Jones test positive for, a performance enhancer or something illegal?

Chael Sonnen said on the Joe Rogan Podcast Jones was caught with 2 estrogen blockers in his system, no performance enhancing per se, but synthetic testosterone masking agents. If I am not wrong I think it was Tamoxifen and Clomid.

Basically trying to lower his estrogen levels after using a full testosterone cycle, that is what he was busted with.
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July 12, 2016, 05:33:07 AM

Shame this fight never happened. Jon Jones can't not fuck up a drug test for once in his life.

Been waiting to this rematch for the longest time but but Jon Jones ruined it. Guess that's the end of Jon Jones and the UFC. This could have gone down as one of the greatest fight ever but will instead go down in disgrace. He lost a fans today, and Cormier is now the true champ.


How many times has he fucked up with the UFC before? This is like the 15th time or something, I'm sure he'll be back to fuck up the next card.

Jon Jones is his own worst enemy and a complete moron? bastar? whatsoever you want to call him. IMO, I think he's one the greatest MMA fighter ever, but he was screwed, was fired, did things that unnecessary. I think he will come back for two years or more due to positive that there was a violation. 

I mean he was fired under completely understandable conditions, he tested positive for narcotics, was involved in a hit and run, and then fucked up again.

His career was already fucked up, hope he reflects to all his actions and come back again as a new man. He should also understand himself and increasing his professional value.
legendary
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July 12, 2016, 05:26:18 AM
What did Jones test positive for, a performance enhancer or something illegal?
full member
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July 12, 2016, 05:13:14 AM

Shame this fight never happened. Jon Jones can't not fuck up a drug test for once in his life.

Been waiting to this rematch for the longest time but but Jon Jones ruined it. Guess that's the end of Jon Jones and the UFC. This could have gone down as one of the greatest fight ever but will instead go down in disgrace. He lost a fans today, and Cormier is now the true champ.


How many times has he fucked up with the UFC before? This is like the 15th time or something, I'm sure he'll be back to fuck up the next card.

Jon Jones is his own worst enemy and a complete moron? bastar? whatsoever you want to call him. IMO, I think he's one the greatest MMA fighter ever, but he was screwed, was fired, did things that unnecessary. I think he will come back for two years or more due to positive that there was a violation. 

I mean he was fired under completely understandable conditions, he tested positive for narcotics, was involved in a hit and run, and then fucked up again.
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July 12, 2016, 05:09:39 AM

Shame this fight never happened. Jon Jones can't not fuck up a drug test for once in his life.

Been waiting to this rematch for the longest time but but Jon Jones ruined it. Guess that's the end of Jon Jones and the UFC. This could have gone down as one of the greatest fight ever but will instead go down in disgrace. He lost a fans today, and Cormier is now the true champ.


How many times has he fucked up with the UFC before? This is like the 15th time or something, I'm sure he'll be back to fuck up the next card.

Jon Jones is his own worst enemy and a complete moron? bastar? whatsoever you want to call him. IMO, I think he's one the greatest MMA fighter ever, but he was screwed, was fired, did things that unnecessary. I think he will come back for two years or more due to positive that there was a violation. 
full member
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July 12, 2016, 05:05:04 AM

Shame this fight never happened. Jon Jones can't not fuck up a drug test for once in his life.

Been waiting to this rematch for the longest time but but Jon Jones ruined it. Guess that's the end of Jon Jones and the UFC. This could have gone down as one of the greatest fight ever but will instead go down in disgrace. He lost a fans today, and Cormier is now the true champ.


How many times has he fucked up with the UFC before? This is like the 15th time or something, I'm sure he'll be back to fuck up the next card.
copper member
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July 12, 2016, 04:33:56 AM

Shame this fight never happened. Jon Jones can't not fuck up a drug test for once in his life.

Been waiting to this rematch for the longest time but but Jon Jones ruined it. Guess that's the end of Jon Jones and the UFC. This could have gone down as one of the greatest fight ever but will instead go down in disgrace. He lost a fans today, and Cormier is now the true champ.
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July 12, 2016, 04:12:44 AM
legendary
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July 12, 2016, 04:12:01 AM
That loss of Mark Hunt to Brock Lesnar and Miesha Tate to Amanda Nunes cost me 0.2 BTC, I never thought Amanda Nunes can be that aggressive and Tate will lose bloodied like hell.

Brock showed the world that he can take punches but still I am not convinced on his win. UFC 200 was sold and what the old owners want is a very good show to increase the value of UFC brand, they need this kind of publicity, they saw this coming so thy need to come up with a great show thats why they panicked when their initial main event faced some problem.

I think Brock Lesnar win because he's good at take down and Mark Hunt lose by it. This match is boring though, same as Jose aldo match. Both fighters not aggresive.
If you think UFC 200 is boring wait till you see the line up for UFC 201, I can only say the main event is the only reason to watch UFC 201, the rest are like side shows, here is the fight card;

Robbie Lawler Vs Tyron Woodley (Main Event)
Matt Brown Vs Jake Ellenberger
Rose Namajunas Vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz
Nikita Krylov Vs Ed Herman
Jorge Masvidal Vs Siyar Bahadurzada
Francisco Rivera Vs Erik Perez
Michael Graves Vs Bojan Valickovic
Anthony Hamilton Vs Damian Grabowski
Cesar Arzamendia Vs Damien Brown

Maybe I'll just wait for someone to show the fight live in facebook using a camera lol
sr. member
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July 12, 2016, 02:12:19 AM
That loss of Mark Hunt to Brock Lesnar and Miesha Tate to Amanda Nunes cost me 0.2 BTC, I never thought Amanda Nunes can be that aggressive and Tate will lose bloodied like hell.

Brock showed the world that he can take punches but still I am not convinced on his win. UFC 200 was sold and what the old owners want is a very good show to increase the value of UFC brand, they need this kind of publicity, they saw this coming so thy need to come up with a great show thats why they panicked when their initial main event faced some problem.

I think Brock Lesnar win because he's good at take down and Mark Hunt lose by it. This match is boring though, same as Jose aldo match. Both fighters not aggresive.
legendary
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July 12, 2016, 01:50:41 AM
#99
That loss of Mark Hunt to Brock Lesnar and Miesha Tate to Amanda Nunes cost me 0.2 BTC, I never thought Amanda Nunes can be that aggressive and Tate will lose bloodied like hell.

Brock showed the world that he can take punches but still I am not convinced on his win. UFC 200 was sold and what the old owners want is a very good show to increase the value of UFC brand, they need this kind of publicity, they saw this coming so thy need to come up with a great show thats why they panicked when their initial main event faced some problem.
legendary
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July 12, 2016, 12:21:17 AM
#98
the UFC sold their business for 4 billion dollars today!

I wonder what changes will be taking place

they better hope they keep dana white on in some sort of
capacity. That dude is the face of MMA / UFC and maybe he
starts another league?  Probably a non compete clause in the
contract but after the 5 years or whatever they better lock him
up in a contract or he may pull a professional wrestling and start
another league to compete with his old brand


There's a possibility this could happen if they don't get Dana's trust and confidence.  There are rumors swirling that Joe Rogan wants out of the UFC if the Fertitta brothers are out.  Imagine Dana + Rogan building their own brand with the support of the Fertitta brothers.  They could create a successful brand by gradually signing the young and upcoming fighters from the UFC.  Time will be on their side.
legendary
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July 11, 2016, 10:36:39 PM
#97
the UFC sold their business for 4 billion dollars today!

I wonder what changes will be taking place

they better hope they keep dana white on in some sort of
capacity. That dude is the face of MMA / UFC and maybe he
starts another league?  Probably a non compete clause in the
contract but after the 5 years or whatever they better lock him
up in a contract or he may pull a professional wrestling and start
another league to compete with his old brand
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