UFC 215: Johnson vs Borg Info and Prediction Thread

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Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

Wasn't able to watch the fight but I read that the fight is very tactical and they are very careful against each other, so I don't think they lived up to the hype. And they say that the fans are booing, LOL. I guess the 5th round takedown really seal the victory for Nunes. Yes, the Melendes and Stephens fight are brutal and we all know the Gilbert get bloodied always. And Jeremy Stephens won the fight. Will try to look for videos later and watch the fight though.

Valentina vs Amanda fight was such a scam. Valentina clearly won, outstriked her for 5 rounds. The only thing Amanda Nunes did was to go for the takedown on round 5, not much else to be honest. I can't believe how much a of a scam of a split decision that was. Dana White must be so pissed off at this, considering that he was mad at Amanda. I doubt he made Amanda win by paying the judges or something. Didn't enjoy this card, the rest of fighters nobodies for a casual fan like me. I can't wait for the next Ferguson vs Lee main card, that will be great.

I don't think its a scam but just like a said, it didn't live to its hype and it just so happened that the main event was cancelled and their fight became the main event that turns out to be a dull and boring fight. Maybe we are really used to seeing Ronda giving us good fight in the division that why we are expecting more from this women. It was a close fight indeed up until the 5th round takedown of Nunes. I don't think that Dana will give Amanda, as long as she is the champiion the main card event again unless she proves that she can give the fans what they wanted like Ronda Rousey did during her reign.

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Quote from: TravelMug on September 11, 2017, 05:33:01 AM

Quote from: Hydrogen on September 10, 2017, 07:09:09 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2017, 08:15:42 AM

Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

Wasn't able to watch the fight but I read that the fight is very tactical and they are very careful against each other, so I don't think they lived up to the hype. And they say that the fans are booing, LOL. I guess the 5th round takedown really seal the victory for Nunes. Yes, the Melendes and Stephens fight are brutal and we all know the Gilbert get bloodied always. And Jeremy Stephens won the fight. Will try to look for videos later and watch the fight though.

Valentina vs Amanda fight was such a scam. Valentina clearly won, outstriked her for 5 rounds. The only thing Amanda Nunes did was to go for the takedown on round 5, not much else to be honest. I can't believe how much a of a scam of a split decision that was. Dana White must be so pissed off at this, considering that he was mad at Amanda. I doubt he made Amanda win by paying the judges or something. Didn't enjoy this card, the rest of fighters nobodies for a casual fan like me. I can't wait for the next Ferguson vs Lee main card, that will be great.

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Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

Yup, I thought so. Shev has always been a slow starter and Nunes, I guess she used her energy efficiently, that's why she finished the whole 5 rounds without gassing out? So yeah, I could imagine the slow first three rounds, and then starts picking up at the fourth.

Is anybody else getting a McGregor hangover? I don't seem to be looking forward to 216 and 217. Lol.

You are not the only one mate. I still have that hangover as well. But then seeing this fight after the May-McGregor fight, is seems that I'm not looking to watch unless their are good match or good names in the card.

The Nunes vs Shevchenko was a complete disappointed. Just like others have said, its very tactical, like a chess game. Both are looking for the other one to make a mistake before making a move. Though I'm looking forward at Canelo-GGG on the boxing side.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on September 10, 2017, 07:09:09 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2017, 08:15:42 AM

Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

Yup, I thought so. Shev has always been a slow starter and Nunes, I guess she used her energy efficiently, that's why she finished the whole 5 rounds without gassing out? So yeah, I could imagine the slow first three rounds, and then starts picking up at the fourth.

Is anybody else getting a McGregor hangover? I don't seem to be looking forward to 216 and 217. Lol.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on September 10, 2017, 07:09:09 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2017, 08:15:42 AM

Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

Wasn't able to watch the fight but I read that the fight is very tactical and they are very careful against each other, so I don't think they lived up to the hype. And they say that the fans are booing, LOL. I guess the 5th round takedown really seal the victory for Nunes. Yes, the Melendes and Stephens fight are brutal and we all know the Gilbert get bloodied always. And Jeremy Stephens won the fight. Will try to look for videos later and watch the fight though.

Yep, this card is really boring af without Johnson vs Borg. Both fighters are playing defensive which is unusual for Nunes, i agree that takedown on 5th round is a lock for Nunes win. Rip for the people who buy per per view, still can't believe though Borg can't fight on this card. When i saw the ufc vlog, borg seems fine.

I feel asleep watching the main event LOL. Yes the fans are booing because they want both fighters to engaged. But they just touch each other until the take down in the fight. Nunes really doesn't have sparks to be a champion unlike the Ronda Rousey, who became the face not only of the bantamweight division, but the UFC for many years. I'm liking him to D. Johnson, although one of the best and the current champion, seems to lack the star power that a champion like Jon Jones. And as champion for me Nunes should at least the aggressor in this fight.

Just as I expected, Nunes vs Shevchenko didn't live to its hype and just a snoozer fight to me. Luckily I didn't watch the fight as well, but did see the fight in Youtube. I read that Nunes said that she will have plans to take some time off following her victory because she needs her sinuses repaired through surgery.

Gilbert Melendez made his return and debut in the featherweight but he came in short. Though he lost, he was able to 'walk' away with the 'Fight of the Night' bonus. But it was brutal to see Jeremy Stephens bombardment Melendez legs from a barrage of kicks, and it was nasty as hell.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on September 10, 2017, 07:09:09 PM

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Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

Wasn't able to watch the fight but I read that the fight is very tactical and they are very careful against each other, so I don't think they lived up to the hype. And they say that the fans are booing, LOL. I guess the 5th round takedown really seal the victory for Nunes. Yes, the Melendes and Stephens fight are brutal and we all know the Gilbert get bloodied always. And Jeremy Stephens won the fight. Will try to look for videos later and watch the fight though.

Yep, this card is really boring af without Johnson vs Borg. Both fighters are playing defensive which is unusual for Nunes, i agree that takedown on 5th round is a lock for Nunes win. Rip for the people who buy per per view, still can't believe though Borg can't fight on this card. When i saw the ufc vlog, borg seems fine.

I feel asleep watching the main event LOL. Yes the fans are booing because they want both fighters to engaged. But they just touch each other until the take down in the fight. Nunes really doesn't have sparks to be a champion unlike the Ronda Rousey, who became the face not only of the bantamweight division, but the UFC for many years. I'm liking him to D. Johnson, although one of the best and the current champion, seems to lack the star power that a champion like Jon Jones. And as champion for me Nunes should at least the aggressor in this fight.

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Quote from: TravelMug on September 11, 2017, 05:33:01 AM

Quote from: Hydrogen on September 10, 2017, 07:09:09 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2017, 08:15:42 AM

Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

Wasn't able to watch the fight but I read that the fight is very tactical and they are very careful against each other, so I don't think they lived up to the hype. And they say that the fans are booing, LOL. I guess the 5th round takedown really seal the victory for Nunes. Yes, the Melendes and Stephens fight are brutal and we all know the Gilbert get bloodied always. And Jeremy Stephens won the fight. Will try to look for videos later and watch the fight though.

Yep, this card is really boring af without Johnson vs Borg. Both fighters are playing defensive which is unusual for Nunes, i agree that takedown on 5th round is a lock for Nunes win. Rip for the people who buy per per view, still can't believe though Borg can't fight on this card. When i saw the ufc vlog, borg seems fine.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on September 10, 2017, 07:09:09 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2017, 08:15:42 AM

Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

Wasn't able to watch the fight but I read that the fight is very tactical and they are very careful against each other, so I don't think they lived up to the hype. And they say that the fans are booing, LOL. I guess the 5th round takedown really seal the victory for Nunes. Yes, the Melendes and Stephens fight are brutal and we all know the Gilbert get bloodied always. And Jeremy Stephens won the fight. Will try to look for videos later and watch the fight though.

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Jeremy Stephens looked amazing and Latifi had a nice bounce back win. Main event was pretty boring but I think Valentina really won that fight. She out struck Nunes and although Nunes had those takedowns Valentina was doing more damage from her back. It was a close fight though so it was hard to judge.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2017, 08:15:42 AM

Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching?

It wasn't a good fight. They were both waiting to counter & spent a lot of time not doing anything waiting for the other person to make a move.

Gilbert Melendez vs Jeremy Stephens was a brutal fight. Can't say that was really a good fight either so much as a one sided beat down.

Ilir Latifi vs Tyson Pedro might have been the best fight on the card that wasn't a completely one sided affair.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 10, 2017, 08:15:42 AM

I must really be having a Maywaether vs McGregor hang over. I didn't watch the event... And the funny part is I didn't care! Lol. Cheesy

I usually kick myself if I miss a football game or some event.

Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching? I'll try not spoiling the details on myself by reading the per round reviews if it's good to watch the replay.

Edit: By main event, I mean Nunes vs Shev.

It was a feeling out process for majority of the fight. Things really only got somewhat "heated" in rounds 4 and 5. But, overall very tactical fight, some might call it boring but, that's what tactical fights are.

From a neutral perspective it was a quite even fight and could have gone either way. But knowing UFC, in-order to dethrone a champ if the fight goes to distance you need to out perform them significantly and Shev definitely did not do that. Nunez was the aggressor the whole fight and deserved to remain the champ.

Fight #3 is most likely, unless Shev goes down a weight class.

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I must really be having a Maywaether vs McGregor hang over. I didn't watch the event... And the funny part is I didn't care! Lol. Cheesy

I usually kick myself if I miss a football game or some event.

Anyway, how was main event? Is it worth watching? I'll try not spoiling the details on myself by reading the per round reviews if it's good to watch the replay.

Edit: By main event, I mean Nunes vs Shev.

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i went 0 for 6 last card and i think it could happen again i like alot of the dogs lol

all small plays tho nothing i really like

Amanda Nunes
Neil Magny
Tyson Pedro
Jeremy Stephens
Sara McMann
Wilson Reis
Rick Glenn
Mitch Clarke
Luis Henrique

oops looks like i forgot to put down Kajan Johnson +425 dog to start it off! not gonna go 0 for 10 lol

i broke dead even lol

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eh the borg fight being canceled didnt really ruin the card the JDS vs Francis N. did i was looking forward to see that fight more than the DJ fight

JDS vs Francis Ngannou was definitely one of the fights I was looking forward to the most.

Demetrious Johnson is receiving a lot of accolades, he's ranked #1 on many pound for pound lists. Many consider him to be the best overall MMA fighter actively fighting. It seems like he's gotten a bit jaded. Its strange how he's the champion and seems less happy with his place in things when he's being paid much more than most. I think maybe he doesn't appreciate how lucky he is and so I won't miss him not fighting.

Ray Borg is supposed to have a viral infection. I wonder what type of virus he is infected with.

They say that its weight issues, other news says its virus infection. Its not clear though was is the real reason. Yes, Dana White is very pissed off right now because of the cancellation of the main event.

For me, Demetrious Johnson is really the best pound for pound right now. The only problem I see is that he really don't get as much exposure as those big guys that's why you may feel that he is disappointed and frustrated. But if he really wants to step up the plate then he should move up in weight and challenge the big guys.

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Quote from: notserp on September 09, 2017, 05:06:11 AM

i went 0 for 6 last card and i think it could happen again i like alot of the dogs lol

all small plays tho nothing i really like

Amanda Nunes
Neil Magny
Tyson Pedro
Jeremy Stephens
Sara McMann
Wilson Reis
Rick Glenn
Mitch Clarke
Luis Henrique

oops looks like i forgot to put down Kajan Johnson +425 dog to start it off! not gonna go 0 for 10 lol

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Quote from: Hydrogen on September 09, 2017, 04:27:14 PM

Quote from: notserp on September 09, 2017, 01:23:35 PM

eh the borg fight being canceled didnt really ruin the card the JDS vs Francis N. did i was looking forward to see that fight more than the DJ fight

JDS vs Francis Ngannou was definitely one of the fights I was looking forward to the most.

Demetrious Johnson is receiving a lot of accolades, he's ranked #1 on many pound for pound lists. Many consider him to be the best overall MMA fighter actively fighting. It seems like he's gotten a bit jaded. Its strange how he's the champion and seems less happy with his place in things when he's being paid much more than most. I think maybe he doesn't appreciate how lucky he is and so I won't miss him not fighting.

Even i was looking for Francis Ngannou fight the top dogs and how he could fair against them and certainly JDS was the right choice and on Demetrious Johnson getting all the accolades is because he is so talented that he is not having a good fight in that division because he is above the rest of the competition and the problem he has is with the payment he receives as a champion compared to others,he is not a big draw in the box office and so is the reason for that disparity .

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Quote from: notserp on September 09, 2017, 01:23:35 PM

eh the borg fight being canceled didnt really ruin the card the JDS vs Francis N. did i was looking forward to see that fight more than the DJ fight

JDS vs Francis Ngannou was definitely one of the fights I was looking forward to the most.

Demetrious Johnson is receiving a lot of accolades, he's ranked #1 on many pound for pound lists. Many consider him to be the best overall MMA fighter actively fighting. It seems like he's gotten a bit jaded. Its strange how he's the champion and seems less happy with his place in things when he's being paid much more than most. I think maybe he doesn't appreciate how lucky he is and so I won't miss him not fighting.

Ray Borg is supposed to have a viral infection. I wonder what type of virus he is infected with.

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eh the borg fight being canceled didnt really ruin the card the JDS vs Francis N. did i was looking forward to see that fight more than the DJ fight

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 09, 2017, 11:23:47 AM

Quote from: deadsilent on September 09, 2017, 10:33:12 AM

This is my bet.

Demetrious Johnson (26-2-1) vs. Ray Borg (11-2) (Flyweight Championship) --> K.O round 2 for Borg
Amanda Nunes (14-4) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (14-2) (Women's Bantamweight Championship)
I think Nuñez will win this fight. Nuñez is like a man. A knockout artist. So i will go for Nuñez for 1st round knock out
Neil Magny (19-5) vs. Rafael dos Anjos (26-9) (Welterweight)---> For Dos Anjos (unanimous)
Ilir Latifi (12-5) vs. Tyson Pedro (6-0) (Light Heavyweight)--> Pedro (unanimous)
Jeremy Stephens (25-14) vs. Gilbert Melendez (22-6) (Featherweight)-----> Melendez 2nd round

The main event will be a good fight. Johnson "the mighty mouse" is reigning for a long time. He should give way for the others.

Quote from: krach on September 08, 2017, 03:19:22 AM

Borg out

Going to have to get a prop bet on over under fights canceled.

Ouch!

Yeah their fight has been cancelled. As a result, the Amanda Nunes vs. Valentina Shevchenko will now headline UFC 215. I think this is the second time that Borg has cancelled the fight because of 'health' issues but I think that there might be underlying causes that's why the fight has been cancelled. Too bad I don't think that he will have a chance again to fight for the belt. He will be lucky if UFC will decide to just re-scheduled this fight again sometime. Its kinda suck for Demetrious Johnson as well, after preparing for this fight and just be cancelled just a few days. I hope that Amanda Nunes vs. Valentina Shevchenko will live up to its expectations though and not be a snoozer fight.

Dana White must be so angry at the current events. Borg being out and then ruining the main card is an issue already, but he has been forced to go against his own words and put Amanda Nunes on the main card. He said Amanda Nunes would never be in a main card again, and now here we are.

The UFC is being a disaster. I can't no longer count how many main cards have been ruined so far. Jon Bones Jones vs DC has been ruined a million times, Tony Fergusson vs Khabib, Amanda vs Valentina was cancelled too, Bisping GSP was cancelled too.. it never ends.

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Quote from: deadsilent on September 09, 2017, 10:33:12 AM

This is my bet.

Demetrious Johnson (26-2-1) vs. Ray Borg (11-2) (Flyweight Championship) --> K.O round 2 for Borg
Amanda Nunes (14-4) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (14-2) (Women's Bantamweight Championship)
I think Nuñez will win this fight. Nuñez is like a man. A knockout artist. So i will go for Nuñez for 1st round knock out
Neil Magny (19-5) vs. Rafael dos Anjos (26-9) (Welterweight)---> For Dos Anjos (unanimous)
Ilir Latifi (12-5) vs. Tyson Pedro (6-0) (Light Heavyweight)--> Pedro (unanimous)
Jeremy Stephens (25-14) vs. Gilbert Melendez (22-6) (Featherweight)-----> Melendez 2nd round

The main event will be a good fight. Johnson "the mighty mouse" is reigning for a long time. He should give way for the others.

Quote from: krach on September 08, 2017, 03:19:22 AM

Borg out

Going to have to get a prop bet on over under fights canceled.

Ouch!

Yeah their fight has been cancelled. As a result, the Amanda Nunes vs. Valentina Shevchenko will now headline UFC 215. I think this is the second time that Borg has cancelled the fight because of 'health' issues but I think that there might be underlying causes that's why the fight has been cancelled. Too bad I don't think that he will have a chance again to fight for the belt. He will be lucky if UFC will decide to just re-scheduled this fight again sometime. Its kinda suck for Demetrious Johnson as well, after preparing for this fight and just be cancelled just a few days. I hope that Amanda Nunes vs. Valentina Shevchenko will live up to its expectations though and not be a snoozer fight.

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