Topic: - UGA - a Gamblers Union (Read 819 times)

If only, but sadly they are not, because not all are the same. Some are shady, strict, and some are prideful. They think they are the only one that is right at all times so they only " seen " their costumers complaints and never reply to it. Maybe some union like this have a hidden agenda like they will request money from us.

I think that's fine as long as they already help us successfully. But for those who are asking a money down first, and they have no proven record that they are legit and working, I can consider that as a red flag and I will avoid it. I don't think a legit and fair gambling platform won't solve any of their costumer's issue but some are only waiting for a union like this to interfere them before they take the complaint seriously.

If only, but sadly they are not, because not all are the same. Some are shady, strict, and some are prideful. They think they are the only one that is right at all times so they only " seen " their costumers complaints and never reply to it. Maybe some union like this have a hidden agenda like they will request money from us.

I think that's fine as long as they already help us successfully. But for those who are asking a money down first, and they have no proven record that they are legit and working, I can consider that as a red flag and I will avoid it. I don't think a legit and fair gambling platform won't solve any of their costumer's issue but some are only waiting for a union like this to interfere them before they take the complaint seriously.

If the most the gambling platforms support or customers services are responding appropriately on every request and the gamblers as well are not making waste of this kind of opportunities, maybe we may not see the need of seeking help from external source or join a union that would later benefits from us than we do from joining, if a gambling platform cannot solve a gamblers problem or challenges, how sure are we that this could be done through formi a union if not something is behind the agenda.

This is interesting for everyone because if there is a union to be able to help Players who in some way feel that their rights have been violated or Violated against a casino , but this is something that can be very specific cases where the Casinos are really quite great at defending themselves, of course there are many players who look for a way to support the victims and leave everything as if they were the ones who have violated their rights, but considering that there are times that if a player is right he is good for this, also if he Studying these cases gives more experience to other players who see that a casino is not a platform that is feasible to deceive.

But I wonder something , where this occurs , which members would be willing to form it ? because that is like a difficult job, studying every episode that happened in the casino is something difficult, plus it would be epic at the same time if in Bitcointalk, there was its own union, that would Sound very big , it would be Something new.

If a gambling union must exist or be formed, then it has to be that those that will be involved in this kind of union are the casino or gambling platforms that have their gamblers all at the same place they can all be reach virtually, then they can have a Kind of union so most of them, they were all under almost the same platform, they can have some things to discuss to their own advantage than the external ones they don't know about.

A union could provide some short of independent audit that could potentially increase the reputation and the user trust in sites with a certain quality stamp. This would however be quite expensive and I am not sure that smaller site would be able or would be interested in paying for such a thing. A users union is not bad for legal litigation, but most dark sites will be in places where law is in their favour.

I am planning to make a Website, Socials and a lot more, people who arent getting heard will get heard, the different stories will get heard and hopefully a lot of cases will be solved by presenting this to the brighter audience.

Site reputation or in overall impression would really be that varying into those things generally on which this isnt only that in talks about functionality but also in other aspects
as well on which reputation would really be always reflect out on how they would really be treating up gamblers whether they are winning or losing. There should really be always having that
kind of balance which we know that once people do see those kind of treatment or handling then there would really be no issues or possible problems that might
rise. Usually gamblers would really get angry on the time that they are on huge loss and this is why proper handling and understanding is a must.

Sometimes it's always the case with support agents, they fail to understand the need to attend to customers or players with respect.  Their salaries are generated by patronage from players hence the saying, the customer is always the king but they fail to note this and therefore attend averagely to them. In cases where a players has incurred loses, he tends to be a little bit agitated and slight show of zero care can ignite anger and dislike and this isn't good for a casino's customer.

Hi There,


I have gained a lot of Experience over the Years regarding Online Casinos, and the System in wich Casinos are working by. Sometimes you win really big and everything is perfect, but sometimes you lose and all of a sudden you feel treated unfairly.

I had Similar Situations back in the Days, my account as Stake with Diamond Rank was closed just because i was discussing with a Live support worker. The thing wich had me really dissapointed wasnt even though that the account got closed, it was more the Lack of respect i received by the Casino in this matter. I feel like Casinos are forgetting to treat players with respect in some points, a lot of people might just talk to Live support or send a mail in to comprehend their feelings of loss at a live casino but sometimes people just want to be treated fairly, players have certain interests wich are not always unjustified. But Casinos tend to ignore these kind of problems and just give you Copy & Paste answers.


I feel like Casinos held each player for replaceable at some point. But Thats not right, thats not in accordance with Responsible Gambling in my opinion. There is so much space, so much can be done individually and from casinos to make it user friendlier. Not beeing scared to ask something to live support, not beeing scared that your account might get closed becaused you just discuss with people, the fact that so many gamblers feel not heard because cs is answering to wrong questions, casinos tend to answer with weeks of delay.

I really believe that Gamblers wich come together and justify on certain aspects have more weight and get heard to a larger audience to make these issues known and visible, without visibility there is no way of change. a Gamblers Union who represents the rights of Gamblers in general would really change a lot of things wich are wrong these days.

I am 100% that there are a lot of things missing in this first Post, but i am also 100% sure that atleast 1 person in the gambling space has felt at some point unfairly treated.

If you agree share this message,

I am planning to make a Website, Socials and a lot more, people who arent getting heard will get heard, the different stories will get heard and hopefully a lot of cases will be solved by presenting this to the brighter audience.

I thank everyone who read this so far, i am really excited to see where this discussion will lead into.

best regards

Moonzulu

Gambling and gamblers are not like an employer-employee situation where you need to set up a union with implementing rules and framework to operate, all we need is a community like this where we openly discuss the status of certain casinos, and the casino industry in general, the players just need to have a good time many of these players are here just to enjoy and they don't make a living in gambling, that's too much pressure already for having an obligation to a so-called union when all they want is to have fun.
If there are valid reports on one casino there are review sites and mediators willing to mediate and we have communities where they support players who have issues, all I know is you have a hidden agenda like you want a position in a gambling community so you can cast your influence.

Not only that they might ask for a cut on the players' funds that they are demanding from casinos, but the name union may sound good, as their plan but in reality, we all know union can only be used on labor-related issues, gamblers are not laborers they are people who just want to have fun and they don't want any obligation to any organizations.
There's also a possibility of corruption when it gains a lot of power and this is not good for the gambling industry, they may even promote gambling casinos that will give in to their demand.
I'm okay with unions, I am part of a union also but it's not applicable when it comes to gambling, all we need is a feedback community, there's no hassle with this and the gamblers have no obligation to post their views and feedback.

Maybe this idea is good, but the OP has not been active for more than a month. That's the thing with ideas, many of us have various ideas, but realizing an idea and making it work in the long run is something else entirely. And when it's come to the realization and keeping the idea working is where most of us fail... sad truth.

Until now, except for this forum, at least some high-ranked and trusted members, and BTCGosu, I haven't seen anyone else protecting crypto gamblers.

Not only that they might ask for a cut on the players' funds that they are demanding from casinos, but the name union may sound good, as their plan but in reality, we all know union can only be used on labor-related issues, gamblers are not laborers they are people who just want to have fun and they don't want any obligation to any organizations.
There's also a possibility of corruption when it gains a lot of power and this is not good for the gambling industry, they may even promote gambling casinos that will give in to their demand.
I'm okay with unions, I am part of a union also but it's not applicable when it comes to gambling, all we need is a feedback community, there's no hassle with this and the gamblers have no obligation to post their views and feedback.

And I agree that this union might just harrass any casinos for that matter as they know they have strength in numbers. So it might backfire on someone that is trying to get his money back from casinos in a legit way.

Each gambler is already independent on his own, then everyone should also be tied as a responsibility to the gambling casino he uses, we cannot take the cross to bear everyone's burdens at the same time, how can a single person form a group or union that bring together all gamblers from any casino or gambling platforms and all in the name of establishing a union, on what motives, agenda or purpose.

I also think the OP's intention is good. He wants the gamblers not to be disrespected in any way. If there is any such behavior then everyone can prevent it by forming a unity. But it is not possible to implement such initiatives in online casinos. Everyone is different  and it is difficult to organize any action against them. However, if we can solve those issues through the forum without taking action in this way, then the matter will not be able to take a complicated shape. I think that is the best solution if we can get a better resolution of those issues through forum discussion through information and data.