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Quote from: Renampun on May 23, 2020, 12:52:19 PM

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on May 23, 2020, 03:31:57 AM

I really thinks it's possible that there is an underground casinos are now happening in different places because there are really stubborn people who will do anything, so they could continue their gambling hobby. That is why the COVID-19 cases is continuously increasing all over the world because they can't keep themselves stay at their own homes.

I don't think new sufferers are average gamblers... Tongue

I'm sure underground casinos exist. Casino owners definitely need the money and because they cannot open their places as usual, they must open their gambling business secretly and not be known publicly.

Possible but wont really be that having a strong evidence that those legal casino owners would consider out on making underground ones.
They do know on what would be the consequence when they get caught and if its known that they are the ones who are involved on said illegal
casino then they will surely compromised their legal casino which had been temporarily closed due to covid but well we know that they arent really
that dumb yet they can make out dummies just to hide up themselves and still continue to operate even in illegal aspect just for the sake
of profits.For sure there are underground places as said there are people who are really eager to play even we are on a crisis.

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Quote from: Darker45 on May 22, 2020, 10:43:22 PM

The biggest problem at hand is COVID-19. The reason why casinos are ordered to temporarily shut down is that it could become a way for the virus to spread more quickly. And when the spread of the virus reaches a point of beyond control, people will die, the economy will die, and probably the government, too.

Many respected doctors in my country have come out with the view that the danger of coronavirus is exaggerated. In fact, it is a type of flu virus. Its mortality rate is comparable to that of the flu. Therefore, doctors say that tuberculosis, rotavirus and so on are much more dangerous, and many more people die from them. However, this is not reported in the media, so there is no such panic as from the coronavirus.

Quote from: Darker45 on May 22, 2020, 10:43:22 PM

This is just a matter of prioritization. And while all these measures against the spread of the virus are being implemented, other measures to curb illegal gambling and gambling abuses are also in place. They are not abandoned for the sake of fighting the virus. These measures are not competing against each other.

Based on what I wrote above, I personally believe that the danger from illegal casinos is higher and they need to be fought no worse than the coronavirus.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on May 23, 2020, 03:31:57 AM

I really thinks it's possible that there is an underground casinos are now happening in different places because there are really stubborn people who will do anything, so they could continue their gambling hobby. That is why the COVID-19 cases is continuously increasing all over the world because they can't keep themselves stay at their own homes.

I don't think new sufferers are average gamblers... Tongue

I'm sure underground casinos exist. Casino owners definitely need the money and because they cannot open their places as usual, they must open their gambling business secretly and not be known publicly.

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Well, gambling venues that are not registered can be considered as underground casinos for they don't pay tax and that makes it illegal and it keeps on happening right there and then especially during this lockdown for people who are not aware of online gambling and would want to lessen the boredom then they can just organize gambling anytime even inside their own house then just close it for security. It is irrational if the government will allow casinos to operate only because of the revenue wherein they are the one who imposes lockdown in the local areas it will be more logical then, --if they will just allow other businesses to operate the product or services are included in the basic necessities and not just for the leisure.

It doesn't mean if a country like the Philippines that has a large number of crimes automatically refers to the higher number of underground casinos for this can also be happening in other countries as well we just have no idea who among the countries that that is going to be on the top and and who will be at the bottom for it is illegal and no data is being reported publicly and internationally.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on May 23, 2020, 03:31:57 AM

I really thinks it's possible that there is an underground casinos are now happening in different places because there are really stubborn people who will do anything, so they could continue their gambling hobby. That is why the COVID-19 cases is continuously increasing all over the world because they can't keep themselves stay at their own homes.

So they are rising it lot first the national safety and secondly if it is identified government is going to sealed them and other penalties as well unless they are told to open it. So is it worth taking so much risk for those owners who are doing it

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Quote from: serjent05 on May 23, 2020, 10:31:40 AM

I partly agree that there is a possibility that some government officials (the corrupt one) are probably backing this kind of activity but I think that the government is unaware of this. Btw, from the word "underground", that means it is illegal and is not approved by the government to operate or the government is aware about its operation.

I understand what you say, but this is a fact of life. When we have the strength to be proud of ourselves or others, everything might be easy and this also happens to illegal gambling where operations are prohibited. While financial power can buy the law, maybe government officials can just sit and let the illegal thing happen and pretend to be deaf even though they know it.

For a pandemic situation, I can only suggest that we must understand how governments and medical staff are struggling to deal with a pandemic and prevent new cases from happening. No matter how much we have the desire to gamble and especially physical gambling, avoidance is a good thing for a while. This is an awareness that we must emphasize for every gambler and person who owns a gambling business.

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Quote from: JoMarrah Iarim Dan on May 23, 2020, 11:14:34 AM

Quote from: robelneo on May 21, 2020, 11:14:27 AM

Casinos can't keep up with the current situation, they must make a profit even at this pandemic, do you think it's possible that some gambling casinos are already into underground casinos, where they only allow their old and trusted clients to play in a place that they provided, could be a mansion or a secluded building, but of course, they will guaranty all the necessary preactions to make their venue safe for their clients.

There's also a possibility that some governments will allow it because some casinos are being run by the government or they have a big cut in the revenues.
Do you think it's happening right now or do you know of one in your city?

I am not really sure if there casinos that existed underground. Maybe it is not possible in our area since the government have no funds for it. All I knew is that gamblers are unstoppable even though it is quarantine period. They can really find ways to keep playing. I do not know if they are just bored or what. They do not need casinos to play. They can play everywhere.

Indeed, heavy gamers will find ways to continue gambling, though it's not easy to say if the government will allow this since there's ongoing lockdown, risking people for the sake of revenue not impossible but for sure it will be very discreet in order to facilitate without any issues.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 21, 2020, 11:14:27 AM

Casinos can't keep up with the current situation, they must make a profit even at this pandemic, do you think it's possible that some gambling casinos are already into underground casinos, where they only allow their old and trusted clients to play in a place that they provided, could be a mansion or a secluded building, but of course, they will guaranty all the necessary preactions to make their venue safe for their clients.

There's also a possibility that some governments will allow it because some casinos are being run by the government or they have a big cut in the revenues.
Do you think it's happening right now or do you know of one in your city?

Underground casinos are an unfortunate reality in my country, we have legal casinos but they mostly appeal to people with more resources and as such are more expensive to play and not everyone can pay those prices, so the people that like to gamble and do not have a lot of resources prefer to play in underground casinos, but in the case of my country that is a misnomer because you can actually see people gamble on the street and the police says nothing to them which means they do not care or that they had been bribed.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 21, 2020, 11:14:27 AM

Casinos can't keep up with the current situation, they must make a profit even at this pandemic, do you think it's possible that some gambling casinos are already into underground casinos, where they only allow their old and trusted clients to play in a place that they provided, could be a mansion or a secluded building, but of course, they will guaranty all the necessary preactions to make their venue safe for their clients.

There's also a possibility that some governments will allow it because some casinos are being run by the government or they have a big cut in the revenues.
Do you think it's happening right now or do you know of one in your city?

I am not really sure if there casinos that existed underground. Maybe it is not possible in our area since the government have no funds for it. All I knew is that gamblers are unstoppable even though it is quarantine period. They can really find ways to keep playing. I do not know if they are just bored or what. They do not need casinos to play. They can play everywhere.

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VIP players can always make ways to gamble, and I believe illegal gambling is happening especially on a lockdown country where all the casinos are temporarily closed. In my place, you can gamble and play mahjong or card games on your house which is very normal in my place but it still illegal.

There are cases in my country where gamblers are being caught by the authority playing on the front of their house while on a lock down, and the worst thing here they’re using money from the government’s help, well this is one proof that addict gamblers will always find a way to gamble.

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Quote from: robelneo on May 21, 2020, 11:14:27 AM

Casinos can't keep up with the current situation, they must make a profit even at this pandemic, do you think it's possible that some gambling casinos are already into underground casinos, where they only allow their old and trusted clients to play in a place that they provided, could be a mansion or a secluded building, but of course, they will guaranty all the necessary preactions to make their venue safe for their clients.

There's also a possibility that some governments will allow it because some casinos are being run by the government or they have a big cut in the revenues.
Do you think it's happening right now or do you know of one in your city?

Underground activities are rampant even in the early days. So, thinking if there is a possibility that an underground Casino is operating during the pandemic is more likely true. We have not heard of these underground Casinos being shut down because the authority had yet to discover them.

I partly agree that there is a possibility that some government officials (the corrupt one) are probably backing this kind of activity but I think that the government is unaware of this. Btw, from the word "underground", that means it is illegal and is not approved by the government to operate or the government is aware about its operation.

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Quote from: coin-investor on May 23, 2020, 08:33:05 AM

That's the risk but I'm sure that casino operators are aware of it, and they will do everything not to get caught or exposed to the point that they will even bribe authorities just to get their operation moving and not get caught, casinos are one of the most profitable industry and they will do all means to make it operational.

I believe bribery still happening. There are lots of fictional movies about gambling where they run freely even they are on illegal state but somehow there are politicians that protect them in return of giving them some money. We can believe its just a fiction but do you think it is? I wonder how those movies refer to? Perhaps in the real event or actual happenings in the real world. Underground casinos are still living and continue to run. Those people are not scared to over run by government cause they are simply protected. It hurts to know that but its the fact and its happening all over the world.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 23, 2020, 07:58:49 AM

The logic here is very simple, underground casino are illegal, so no government would allow them to operate.

If this underground casino will be reported to the authority, the operator will certainly face a long jail time and of course the gamblers that will be arrested during the raid because they know it's illegal to gamble at this time that we are facing a global pandemic.
In short, underground casino exist and operating now, but they are illegally operating.

Let us not confuse ourselves to it, government is for legal, no government that will appreciate illegal activity even if they will benefit financially.

That's the risk but I'm sure that casino operators are aware of it, and they will do everything not to get caught or exposed to the point that they will even bribe authorities just to get their operation moving and not get caught, casinos are one of the most profitable industry and they will do all means to make it operational.

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The logic here is very simple, underground casino are illegal, so no government would allow them to operate.

If this underground casino will be reported to the authority, the operator will certainly face a long jail time and of course the gamblers that will be arrested during the raid because they know it's illegal to gamble at this time that we are facing a global pandemic.
In short, underground casino exist and operating now, but they are illegally operating.

Let us not confuse ourselves to it, government is for legal, no government that will appreciate illegal activity even if they will benefit financially.

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It is not an underground casino per se but yeah, it is happening.

My friends told me about someone who asked him about gambling secretly and that guy just chose who will go into his apartment to gamble. It is like a meetup but you are the one who invited them. I don't think casinos will be disobeying the protocol right now about the quarantine, but the gamblers, they can do a lot of things for this to happen.

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Quote from: peter0425 on May 22, 2020, 10:58:27 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on May 22, 2020, 08:23:27 AM

We don't know, maybe there are already in operations without any announcements

Do you think they will announced this operation when it is underground and surely not allowed by the government?common man are you serious about what you are saying here?

this is illegal so for sure they will secretly invite regular gamblers to play with them.

That's why I've said, we don't know and no announcements. I don't understand why you have to say that. If you're living in a country that's too conservative and strict in their government rules, do you think that these operators will still continue if their lives is at stake if they've found out to be pushing this. And you cut what I've said that it's just allowed for those players that's been playing with them for a long time and probably has been treated as vip.

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Quote from: sunsilk on May 22, 2020, 08:23:27 AM

But it can also be a no if most of the casinos in that specific country are law-abiding and follows the regulations that's being applied in this time. Although, I'm sure that many of them are asking for a special permit to get back and operate again.

Lol Gambling operators cares about law because we are talking Big money here.and they can just pay those corrupt officials to let them operate secretly .

It's a different case for those countries that governs with strict rules but yeah, money talks and it's happening.

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Yes, I believe that there is an underground casino available in the country which gambling is legal or illegal because the owner still wants to make money from the gamblers. The gamblers itself wants to play gambling games at the casino so, with the underground casino, that will accommodate them to keep gambling in the hidden place. Perhaps, the police have difficult to track them down because no one knows where are the place and only trust members will know, and they will not tell to unknown people.

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I really thinks it's possible that there is an underground casinos are now happening in different places because there are really stubborn people who will do anything, so they could continue their gambling hobby. That is why the COVID-19 cases is continuously increasing all over the world because they can't keep themselves stay at their own homes.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on May 21, 2020, 03:29:28 PM

Casino is just for entertainment purposes and not an essential need of any of us it's not worth risking your life just to get a short entertainment with any of those casino out there. What is best that they can do is to transition their casino in online, since that's the only way for people to access the outside world these days. Here in my country, I was glad that the government realizes the help of digital media a couple of weeks back then they were using the house to house method to hand the cash assistance now they are in partnership with digital payment processors. See how this serves a great use? Casinos should hire web developers, programmers etc. to make their online platform and just put their casino brand on it, advertise then that's it!

It is very dangerous to go outside, especially that you don't know who are those infected that can really pass you the virus. It is hard to communicate outside so as soon as possible, just enjoy those things that you have inside your house. Enjoy gambling online instead of risking your life in the outside world where there is a threat of the virus. Government should tasks those authorities to improve their security and every one must be punished by the law if they don't follow it. We need a proper governance and not a clowns, rules are rules and no one is exempted even the authorities are included. In terms of the entertainment, there are a lot of gambling games online that you can use so that it is unnecessary for you to go outside.

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Quote from: smyslov on May 21, 2020, 12:35:59 PM

It's possible that there are underground casinos, we all know that high rollers in gambling have a good connection to authorities, some gamblers are politicians too and they can always have their way with protection too coming from the authorities but the public didn't know that these things are existing, but we all know what influential gamblers can do, even at this time.

Some people really urges to gambling outside and play physical gambling because maybe they don't find happiness in playing online gambling. Most of us are staying inside our house for our own safety from the Covid-19 but there are still people who are stubborn to violate the rules. Just like this underground casinos, it is really hard to fight those people who are connected and supported by the authorities.

Most probably all of the person that are included here are those politicians just like what you've said. It is because they have man power and they have full control of their money and they can corrupt whenever they want so it is easy for them to waste money in gambling.

The government should make them stop because they can increase the threat of the virus and can make this pandemic lasts longer.

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