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legendary
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I understand your sentiment but without solid proof, and as you clearly mentioned, this is just an allegation.

What to do now? Then stop using the site anymore if you think that will be good for you. It's always better to warn the community about certain issues regarding a site but only if there's solid proof about it or you itself experienced it for real and you showed every inch of the story here loud and clear.

A contest with a leaderboard is really prone to suspicious attempts of bot participants since users don't have any way to be able to look at the system behind it. Even if there's a way, it needs and requires a technical knowledge level to determine how's it going. But these sites won't ruin their reputation just to have their own bot participate in the tournament. It's hard to build a reputation, especially in crypto-gambling that's why these sites care for it seriously.
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If substantiated, the use of fake accounts and bots poses a grave threat to genuine players. This practice not only distorts the true odds of winning but also fosters an environment where users are unknowingly competing against automated entities designed to tilt the odds in favor of the casino.

For now all this are just allegations as you haven't proven that anything that you have said is truth, but this allegations can be true because casino can be playing it unfair for the users without the users knowing that the system is manipulated not to favor them most of the time.

To make the casino look very busy and active, bots can been used by most of the casino to deceive gamblers into thinking that their casino is active and used by many gamblers and also to cheat their customers. People can go extra miles to make money so OP could be right.

I always think most casino are telling lies about their user number and the active gamblers that they have, I know we have lots of gamblers in the world but most of them are gambling on the popular casino and sportsbook so where do this small casino get all those high users.
legendary
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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot
To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.

Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino.
I was about to say the same thing. I've seen a lot of legit websites and services receiving negative reviews and feedback on TrustPilot and most of the accounts that give those negative reviews are new accounts that has either just been created or are posting their first review which makes it clear that they aren't genuine reviews and are either done out of rage or anger, or they are done by competitors to damage the reputation of the platform or service.

Also, since OP said it himself that the allegations aren't verified so far and there needs to be investigation done about this, so I don't think we can reach a conclusion like this and there needs to be some verification about the claims OP is making to blame the casino for actually doing that thing.
This is why i dont really trust up with those review sites whenever i do tend to seek out some crypto related kind of reputation with such information then i do always prefer on searching up information here on this forum itself on which i would say that it is more reliable and something that you could trust rather than into those sites which feedbacks could really be that false one or totally a lie despite on being a good site. We know that there are lots of competitions on this forum on which it would really be just that normal that there might be some false feedbacks just to make a certain company reputation would be going down. This is why its not really that shocking anymore that you could really be able to see some negatively-feedbacked site but turns out to be already a long time running and been popular on which you cant really be able to avoid on reading out those negative comments and reviews which its better to ignore and would be always better that you would really be sticking on your own ways or methods on how to verify whether the site is good or bad for you to make use on or stay on. Abuses on multiple accounts isnt really just that limited into this field but also in others as well as long they could really be able to excecute their plans then this what it counts.
hero member
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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot
To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.

Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino.
I was about to say the same thing. I've seen a lot of legit websites and services receiving negative reviews and feedback on TrustPilot and most of the accounts that give those negative reviews are new accounts that has either just been created or are posting their first review which makes it clear that they aren't genuine reviews and are either done out of rage or anger, or they are done by competitors to damage the reputation of the platform or service.

Also, since OP said it himself that the allegations aren't verified so far and there needs to be investigation done about this, so I don't think we can reach a conclusion like this and there needs to be some verification about the claims OP is making to blame the casino for actually doing that thing.
legendary
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however, it would be interesting to see these reports as well and not just read the allegations and the final verdict.
Here the unethical practices... is this topic because without such essential information it is not possible to understand anything about the story, and this topic does not even make much sense to exist (besides the fact that it should be placed in the scam accusation section Roll Eyes )
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.
Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding.
Well I can say that the topic discussion is favourable and relevant to both side the casino vs. the gambler This is so because bot usage can be used in both ways,  the gambler can use hot to cheat the casino,  and the casino can use the same bots to counter play the gambler,  this is how bad it is and we have to look at it from both side and try to discuss it accordingly since it practice is beginning to affect the overall experience of both party involved.

There is a little bit difference when you say that casino is using a bot in their favor or the gambler is using a bot. The gambling site can implement a bot without the knowledge of the gambler and they may never tell the gamblers about it.

On the other hand, if gambling site found that a gambler is using bot that is against their term and conditions, they may actually block his account for this act. It highly unlikely that a gambler can use bots and other automated means to cheat a casino.
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.
Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding.
Well I can say that the topic discussion is favourable and relevant to both side the casino vs. the gambler This is so because bot usage can be used in both ways,  the gambler can use hot to cheat the casino,  and the casino can use the same bots to counter play the gambler,  this is how bad it is and we have to look at it from both side and try to discuss it accordingly since it practice is beginning to affect the overall experience of both party involved.
legendary
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Someone who do cheat or someone bounds to do such thing whether you are a player or a casino itself then its never been that ethical on doing so on which we do really want that
real experience on fairest way as possible.Even into those known and reputable gambling sites or companies cant really be that totally be 100% fair at all since there's no way on knowing
that in the first place but dealing up with them does create that kind of confidence on which it would really be just that so normal that you would really be having that kind of approach
on sticking on whats popular but cant really be avoided that there are indeed times on which you would really be that liking to test out some new places or something that you havent tested out before.
Simple with some curiosity and some little spark of interest which would trigger out with that kind of action on which it is really just that normal on having that way.
Abusing bonuses or whatever kind of promotions is never been that ethical, whether we do like it or not, there are really people or types who would really all do sorts of things
as long they do have the opportunity and doesnt mind whether its ethical,good or bad.
We need to tell the difference between a person's duty and an organization's credibility. A person's tendency to cheat, whether in a real-life game or an online one, shows a moral flaw. So, it's up to the organization, whether it's a well-known gambling site or a new one, to put in place strict measures to stop this kind of cheating

Even though I agree that no method is perfect, I will say that trustworthy sites tend to have more thorough checks in place. Your thoughts about how people are drawn to new things out of wonder are correct. But a seasoned gambler knows that stability and honesty are more important than new things

Let's not make things hard to understand about awards. Everyone likes a good deal, but the line must be drawn at abuse. There are no shades of gray when it comes to ethics. You are either in the light or in the dark
legendary
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.
Sorry, but you are getting it wrong and you should read the full Original post (mandatory) and most of the replies (optional). You are getting it wrong because OP is talking about misconducts and ethical practices of casinos not of gamblers (customers). OP is accusing casinos of using bots and fake accounts not the players (gamblers). Please, read carefully before responding.
hero member
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.

The OP not said everything against the gambling sites as an unethical one,he said some gambling sites was doing this scam activities.The OP should understand this is not an activity of all the gambling site to add some bot for the win to their site.Some gambling site use the bot to made the random win to their alternative.Most of the gambling sites uses the bot for the cards games.Because the card game only involve of the points based.So showing the declare is easy task,for this reason most of the experienced gamblers won't play the cards game in the gambling sites.The bot is also used by some gamblers to get the winning amount to their account.
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But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts.
The thing is that, whenever you decide to gamble, you should have it at the back of your mind that you are up against the casino, and whatever outcome their gave you, you have to take and that is why we have the slogan house edge, so I won't deny the possibility of bot accounts being run by some casinos, but just as you have said, it good to first of all have the basic understanding and the awareness of possible bots activities in some games.
Also, you are right where you said you only gamble on casinos you are already used to, It makes more sense also and that sounds cool to me anyway, because you have to defend yourself against the casino at some point even though it sounds impossible in casinos, but when the luck is on your side, and you are gambling on a reputable casino both online and offline you are sure of winning something tangible.

That is an unfair practice from the casino's end and they should not have done that in the first place. True that they have what we call the house edge, but that doesn't mean that they can use that to justify their unfair practices and outright cheating. People should also try and avoid the casino who's practicing this as they are bound to lose their money easily without even having a fair chance to break even. It's never okay to be cheated off of your own money.
Someone who do cheat or someone bounds to do such thing whether you are a player or a casino itself then its never been that ethical on doing so on which we do really want that
real experience on fairest way as possible.Even into those known and reputable gambling sites or companies cant really be that totally be 100% fair at all since there's no way on knowing
that in the first place but dealing up with them does create that kind of confidence on which it would really be just that so normal that you would really be having that kind of approach
on sticking on whats popular but cant really be avoided that there are indeed times on which you would really be that liking to test out some new places or something that you havent tested out before.
Simple with some curiosity and some little spark of interest which would trigger out with that kind of action on which it is really just that normal on having that way.
Abusing bonuses or whatever kind of promotions is never been that ethical, whether we do like it or not, there are really people or types who would really all do sorts of things
as long they do have the opportunity and doesnt mind whether its ethical,good or bad.
hero member
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From the title the OP have given to this thread, anything of these type against the wish of a gambling platform is an unethical practice and should not be condole, why should we use a bot to gamble for us if we are not having an hidden agenda to take advantage on their system, why should a gambler also create a fake account if there's nothing he's trying to keep away from others, anything a casino implement is mostly in favour of the gamblers towards having a better experience only if they can reason together by not creating a fake account and make use of bot where necessary.
legendary
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But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts.
The thing is that, whenever you decide to gamble, you should have it at the back of your mind that you are up against the casino, and whatever outcome their gave you, you have to take and that is why we have the slogan house edge, so I won't deny the possibility of bot accounts being run by some casinos, but just as you have said, it good to first of all have the basic understanding and the awareness of possible bots activities in some games.
Also, you are right where you said you only gamble on casinos you are already used to, It makes more sense also and that sounds cool to me anyway, because you have to defend yourself against the casino at some point even though it sounds impossible in casinos, but when the luck is on your side, and you are gambling on a reputable casino both online and offline you are sure of winning something tangible.

That is an unfair practice from the casino's end and they should not have done that in the first place. True that they have what we call the house edge, but that doesn't mean that they can use that to justify their unfair practices and outright cheating. People should also try and avoid the casino who's practicing this as they are bound to lose their money easily without even having a fair chance to break even. It's never okay to be cheated off of your own money.
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But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts.
The thing is that, whenever you decide to gamble, you should have it at the back of your mind that you are up against the casino, and whatever outcome their gave you, you have to take and that is why we have the slogan house edge, so I won't deny the possibility of bot accounts being run by some casinos, but just as you have said, it good to first of all have the basic understanding and the awareness of possible bots activities in some games.
Also, you are right where you said you only gamble on casinos you are already used to, It makes more sense also and that sounds cool to me anyway, because you have to defend yourself against the casino at some point even though it sounds impossible in casinos, but when the luck is on your side, and you are gambling on a reputable casino both online and offline you are sure of winning something tangible.
To avoid some of these complaints, I will advise us to always bet on sport so that our outcome will be universal not something that can be manipulated and the results is withheld. If we are a good fan of sport bets, we shall understand that the result can never be manipulate d like some casinos do when we play there own native game on there platforms. Sometimes they can create there own bots and compete with other real players so that the casino can make more profits.
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But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts.
The thing is that, whenever you decide to gamble, you should have it at the back of your mind that you are up against the casino, and whatever outcome their gave you, you have to take and that is why we have the slogan house edge, so I won't deny the possibility of bot accounts being run by some casinos, but just as you have said, it good to first of all have the basic understanding and the awareness of possible bots activities in some games.
Also, you are right where you said you only gamble on casinos you are already used to, It makes more sense also and that sounds cool to me anyway, because you have to defend yourself against the casino at some point even though it sounds impossible in casinos, but when the luck is on your side, and you are gambling on a reputable casino both online and offline you are sure of winning something tangible.
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It's only your own assumption and the bad thing is, you have no way to know if the casino is involved with bots or fake accounts.

Even you're keep watching the leaderboard everyday, but during near end of the competition there's will a new account came up with huge wager, you can't blame them because the casino can say the account is a high roller.

As long as you're not working behind the casino, you will not know about the truth.
This kind of allegation almost happen in all casinos where there is wagering competition. Even in reputable site like Stake, there were some people who think that Stake use fake accounts or their own accounts to take the top prizes of the wagering competition. Similar as this one, the allegation is baseless without any solid evidence because most cases will always be based on feeling and assumption. Imo, in this kind of thing, what we need to do as players is to trust the casino because like what you said that only person who are behind the casino who know the truth.
In the recent Stake's 10 million dollar birthday race, many Twitter users are claiming that the leading "hidden" racers are Stake's own streamers but as you said, they have no solid evidence to back up this claim. I am not bothered about it though because I'm no way of participating in any of Stake's races and I still believe that Stake is trusted up until this moment. Now on this site here, I am not familiar to it, but again it sounds wrong if I will going to agree with the OP without having enough evidence.

But if I'm going to play and participate in competitions like this, I will always choose the site that I'm more familiar with, so that I can remove my doubts.
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Exactly! Its mind-boggling how some casino sites have the audacity to fool their members and yet expect unwavering loyalty. A trustworthy site should be transparent, open to criticism, and willing to address concerns. If they cant provide evidence when accusations fly around, thats a red flag.

How often are they sponsored, biased, or outright lying? Its up to us, the gamblers, to use our discernment. Relying solely on external reviews is just asking to be conned. It's high time we took things into our own hands and verified claims

Bots? Lies? Fake victories? Its an utter mockery of the spirit of gambling. These new casinos think they can pull the wool over our eyes with tall tales? Think again! We're not naive children; we see through the charade
And if we come across such a casino, we must leave it immediately and don't fall victim to their scams. As long as we still have time to move our coins from one casino to another, we should use them before things end badly. We can look for or move to another more trustworthy casino in terms of security or service to its members.

For this reason, we must get truly honest reviews and are lucky to get these reviews from this forum. Many members of this forum have given honest reviews to us and other people who are looking for a trusted casino to play gambling. And that means it's up to us how we will choose the casino.

Bots, lies, fake wins. Casinos can do everything easily without us even knowing. We must always be careful in choosing a casino. When we find something suspicious, we should start taking action and reducing our gambling account balance by moving it to another casino we trust more.
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Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?

If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky.

Most probably OP wants to wins the gambling sites contests and in case he loses, he will put the blame to the gambling sites being rigged.

Maybe he forget that there are other people participating in the contest for a win too and we should not find the excuses for the loses. Just accept them especially in the gambling world.

One can argue that casino have their players who win the wagering contests etc but without a proof, its not a thing to be discussed.

You guessed it right because the user is came from other casino that has an active tournament that he keeps winning before due to minimal participants. His negative trust made by reputable user and the casino itself shows how this user have problem in the casino.

He always wants to take advantage and probably want to use this thread the same reason that you assume, To blame the casino for cheating when he didn’t won.
legendary
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The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true.
Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims.
You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions?
I don't know why op is trying to accuse a casino when he has no evidence. How on earth would a casino use bots and fake accounts to manipulate her own system to make extra profits when it obvious that this would create a big alarm at the end.

 No casino would want to do this kind of things and if op think he was convinced enough to write this  post then he need to bring proof and not to tell us something without any evidence. Many casinos are looking for ways to generate more traffic from users not to decieve users by creating fake account to manipulate her own community. Very surprising because I still don't get what op is trying to inform us.

Some may do that so they will not spend huge amount to distribute to other people. Its like saving some money and continue marketing their site by having that promotion but its so hard to verify that unless OP or anyone have proof that this type of activities like using bots to deceive legit player is existing to their casino.
Maybe for now OP should gather more evidence to make his accusation strong so that many of us here will see if that accusation is valid or not.

I am also in agreement with your motion, because a person who enters a casino like this, well, they will have the chance to win, they vanish like salt in water, but many tests are needed to verify the truth, currently I have seen that many casinos are They are making a lot of good AI equipment, for use with such a robot, it is not bad to have robots in the casinos, because the robots help in some simple tasks such as support, in casino security, in helping quickly even player in case of any doubt, and if this is too big for the robot, then they transfer the casio to an expert support operator, but in person, as he says things, they look very bad, something like that cannot be done, and also the The accusation is very delicate, because it is a site that is messing with and that is a company, which obviously may be operating well or badly, we do not know, but it is not possible to rush to give a final verdict.

In any case, when it comes to this type accusation, not only the accusation of you is needed, but also of other sugars that have occurred in some of these things, I know that a long time ago they had been Excahnges or in fact still they do it, many bots to keep coins afloat, and various movements, of course that in exchanges can be handled in different ways, in the case of casinos if not that looks very ethical that we say they interfere in our game, and it is not playing r legal, or it is not kplaying fairly, as it should be, because the casino will always have its advantage, but everything as you paint it is something very serious, I dare not say more, you just have to do things with sufficient evidence, there are many times when casino users make very strong accusations about the casinos and this is not the idea, they can make them, but if they are not supported then these accusations simply will not have a good effect, in fact they will be taken as accusations of trolls or people who are against the casino and who knows for what reasons.
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That's a different case because a casino site like that will never want to solve the problems experienced by its members and will remain silent and not answer them. But if it is a trusted site, they will provide evidence to their members accusing them of cheating, cheating, or other problems.

We should not immediately believe what other sites review because we have to prove it ourselves. Often we are fooled by reviews from other sites and this results in us experiencing fraud as experienced by people who are not careful in finding a casino site that is suitable for them.

We will also never know if someone in the casino uses bots or if it is a real gambler who plays gambling in the casino. Things like this are often seen in new casinos that claim to have lots of people visiting or have managed to get big wins but when it is validated, it turns out to be a lie that they deliberately created to attract more members. So it's not surprising.
Exactly! Its mind-boggling how some casino sites have the audacity to fool their members and yet expect unwavering loyalty. A trustworthy site should be transparent, open to criticism, and willing to address concerns. If they cant provide evidence when accusations fly around, thats a red flag.

How often are they sponsored, biased, or outright lying? Its up to us, the gamblers, to use our discernment. Relying solely on external reviews is just asking to be conned. It's high time we took things into our own hands and verified claims

Bots? Lies? Fake victories? Its an utter mockery of the spirit of gambling. These new casinos think they can pull the wool over our eyes with tall tales? Think again! We're not naive children; we see through the charade
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