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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot
To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.

Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino.

I agree that the score of Trustpilot isn't that valid these days but if I'm not wrong then most of the platforms have their dedicated channels or pages on TrustPilot and some of them have amazing reviews on that site. While the reviews can be fake sometimes but still most users first go with Trustpilot route rather than directly going with the site they want to try. I have also noticed that the users which got bad experience on a site tend to leave their review on TrustPilot pages and we can't underestimate the fact that such reviews do have some impact on reputation of a platform. Most of the users hate about KYC details and that's one of the reasons for them to leave those low ratings.
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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot
To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.

Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino.
At the end the accuser is supposed to prove their claims and if they cannot do it then we have no other option but to not believe their story, now personally I have never gambled at the casino referenced by the OP but over the years we have seen many false accusations against casinos.

And the only ones that are taken seriously are the ones that offered the evidence necessary to prove their claims, which is why a casino like 1xbit is so distrusted as we have seen tens of cases in which they scammed their customers.
That's a different case because a casino site like that will never want to solve the problems experienced by its members and will remain silent and not answer them. But if it is a trusted site, they will provide evidence to their members accusing them of cheating, cheating, or other problems.

We should not immediately believe what other sites review because we have to prove it ourselves. Often we are fooled by reviews from other sites and this results in us experiencing fraud as experienced by people who are not careful in finding a casino site that is suitable for them.

We will also never know if someone in the casino uses bots or if it is a real gambler who plays gambling in the casino. Things like this are often seen in new casinos that claim to have lots of people visiting or have managed to get big wins but when it is validated, it turns out to be a lie that they deliberately created to attract more members. So it's not surprising.
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Note: These allegations remain unverified at this time, pending further investigation.
Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?

If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky.

Most probably OP wants to wins the gambling sites contests and in case he loses, he will put the blame to the gambling sites being rigged.

Maybe he forget that there are other people participating in the contest for a win too and we should not find the excuses for the loses. Just accept them especially in the gambling world.

One can argue that casino have their players who win the wagering contests etc but without a proof, its not a thing to be discussed.
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That's not the case we are talking about in this thread, because in this case the user of the bot was allegedly the casino itself. Taking into account the power imbalance between the two parties (gambler and casino) the usage of bots by the latter should be monitored.
If that's the case, I'm not surprised, because there are lots of contest events in casinos where anonymous users are always the first ones, for some reason they never publish their usernames, even though this always raises suspicions for those of us who are real gamblers in the end we will lose to bots too and admit that we can't catch up and get to the top.

I'm sure everyone won't be surprised by that because most of the anonymous activities I see there are like people in the casino itself, even though it's a real person, he should be better off revealing his identity with big bets, don't people like to publicize themselves just to show off? after all sometimes I see big bets in small and new casinos with anonymous users. I think it's the same  Cheesy
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There is no doubt about the possibilities of bots usage in casinos and this also goes both ways in the sense that,  while in the op the casino is the user of the hot,  but in other situations, it will be the gambler that uses bots to cheats the casino,  so this case is vis visual since there is no certainty of what exact makeup for that portion of abnormality to both gambler and the casino at that same time.
This is why I have always been discouraged when I hear the topic relating to bots because it is of no gain as pour cheating to whoever it is used against.

As a curiosity, some casinos let you use bots if you ask them politely (I haven't done it myself, but I can recall a recent topic of my friend seoincorporation if I'm not wrong, who successfully used a bot for his gambling experiments in certain casino, after asking them for permission.

That's not the case we are talking about in this thread, because in this case the user of the bot was allegedly the casino itself. Taking into account the power imbalance between the two parties (gambler and casino) the usage of bots by the latter should be monitored.
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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot
To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.

Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino.
At the end the accuser is supposed to prove their claims and if they cannot do it then we have no other option but to not believe their story, now personally I have never gambled at the casino referenced by the OP but over the years we have seen many false accusations against casinos.

And the only ones that are taken seriously are the ones that offered the evidence necessary to prove their claims, which is why a casino like 1xbit is so distrusted as we have seen tens of cases in which they scammed their customers.
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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot
To be honest, Trustpilot trustscore is not accurate anymore since even reputable casino score very low in there due to its score system can be influenced by a single person that will create dummy account to give negative feedback against the casino. Most of this user are those cheater that can’t get their money back after their account got bust. Duelbits has a 3.7 score in there and even Stake.com has 12% 1 star of their ratings for accusing of being scam casino.

Using trusted review site like gosu is more accurate for reference on determining the reputation of the casino.
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I don't know if you are telling the truth or not, but this casino does not have a good reputation on trustpilot, it is visible the scam accusations against them that are on trustpilot:

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/megaplay.io

there are many accusations and old ones, this shows that the casino does not solve the problems from customers, which led me to wonder why you went to create an account at a casino with a bad reputation and many accusations of scam, you can even look at the negative comments that are just below your comment. We could think that since trustpilot has had many fake reviews, then these negative comments that are on trustpilot would be more fake comments against the casino, therefore the casino would be being wronged.

but when we look at what other sites like casino.guro have about this casino, we are faced with an astonishing scenario in which the casino also has a bad reputation, you and everyone can see how this casino fared at casino.guro:





source: https://casino.guru/megaplay-casino-review

As you can see, they didn't have a good rating at the casino. I don't know if what you say is true or not, but based on the reviews I wouldn't use this casino, so my recommendation is that you make some effort to post proofs so that they can also be placed on casino.guro and trustpilot and with that other people did not use that casino because they will see your proofs and realize that this casino is not good, although just by looking at what is on trustpilot and casino.guro It already makes many people who care about their money not use this casino, at least in my opinion
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There is no doubt about the possibilities of bots usage in casinos and this also goes both ways in the sense that,  while in the op the casino is the user of the hot,  but in other situations, it will be the gambler that uses bots to cheats the casino,  so this case is vis visual since there is no certainty of what exact makeup for that portion of abnormality to both gambler and the casino at that same time.
This is why I have always been discouraged when I hear the topic relating to bots because it is of no gain as pour cheating to whoever it is used against.
There are really people who wont really be that playing fair or simply they would really be trying out to abuse on something if ever they do see that it could really be possible or something that they could apply on.
Bots and fake accounts abuse is never been that something new specially on bonuses and other promotions which having multiple accounts could really be that able to abuse it out and take advantage of it.
Casino platforms arent really that dumb ones not for them to be able to detect or could really be able to filter out to those people or users who are really that tending to do such act.Its not something new
and as a business then it would really be just that normal that they would set off high security measures on trying out to detect as much as possible to those who are tending to do such act.
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There is no doubt about the possibilities of bots usage in casinos and this also goes both ways in the sense that,  while in the op the casino is the user of the hot,  but in other situations, it will be the gambler that uses bots to cheats the casino,  so this case is vis visual since there is no certainty of what exact makeup for that portion of abnormality to both gambler and the casino at that same time.
This is why I have always been discouraged when I hear the topic relating to bots because it is of no gain as pour cheating to whoever it is used against.
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Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?

If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky.
This might just be some immature kid who is not worth paying attention to. That's the problem with the internet, you never know who you are talking to. Making such allegations can be quite harmful to a business and since they are unproven, OP can get into some really hot water for his/her words. Some people only learn when they get served a court date for slandering the reputation of a legitimate business for no reason.

So again, the topic was made by either some immature child or a disgruntled sore loser who felt the need to smear the reputation of the casino because they could not handle gambling. I doubt we will hear from him again, seeing as its a random newbie.
Well, when there is a platform that provides freedom of speech to almost everyone, such things will happen. Now, it depends on the people reading the posts and having their own perspective about it and how they evaluate the situation and decide on what they think about it. Allegations that are not backed with ample proof and evidence shouldn't be taken seriously by the community and they should have their own thinking and understanding about things.

I don't think that the reputation of a casino or a platform would be compromised just because someone random is writing something just by themselves without providing any evidence as the community has their own minds and should have clear understanding of how they should handle that.
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Don't you realize that you just sound stupid here?

If you have no proof or evidence about the said unethical practices, then shut the hell up and don't waste our time. I didn't know people can be this cocky.

claims without proof is defamation and OP seems to be doing that to bring down the reputation of megaplay, thank goodness this is a bitcointalk forum so claims without evidence like what OP did, will only attack him lol

regarding whether there is a possibility for a gambling site to do tricks by using fake accounts and also bots to enliven their site, it is difficult to prove this because we do not have access to their database, so valid evidence is really needed to reveal possible fraud that could have been carried out by a gambling site, if it is only based on opinion then it is defamation.
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I agree with you on the difficulty in getting evidence for case of this nature,  this is why this kind of case can either be swept under the carpet by the casino due to lack of evidence from the accusers and also the gambler,, on the other hand, could be manipulative at times trying to ruin the reputation of a particular casino.

So the case is in both ways,  but in the end, it is you against the casino and what determined the outcome of that case is evidence to prove be it through insider info which is difficult to find or taking screenshots while you may analyze the events as it happens this also is almost impossible.

In wagering races, it's all about the bankroll and wagering of course. Even if you have bots and fake accounts you need to fund them, and that's how they can take all top prizes. And I guess it's simple to do that in some new casino with not so many players, but when it comes to big casinos to run this scheme someone needs to risk millions and millions of dollars for what? $10-$20k prize pool that is split for top 20-50 places.

Those who competed in any kind of wagering wars for a longer time and in more casinos know that hard-core wagering is a double-edged sword. Because we take huge risks in a short period of time, and when we play like that busting a deposit or a few deposits happens very often. There are bright moments and hits of course, but I will just say it again.... It's hard to compete with whales with a limited bankroll! Because of that we are "forced" to take huge risks, and in most cases that ends up badly.
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Without any evidence no one is going to take this allegation serious, of course there have been some reports of bit involvement in the game process and the user overall experiences have been manipulated using some special tools like bots that you mentioned but none have been proven with any form of evidence.

So Megaplay will still remain innocent of this allegation until proven guilty and from the look of things,  your claims lack that evidence to prove them guilty,  but it is a good thing that we are discussing this so that gamblers will be aware of such possibilities.
I agree and the rule as we all know is to accusation will remain one unless otherwise proven. Proving this on the other hand won't be done instantly, there'll be a whole lot of process and that invomves the site's cooperation on this one. So I guess this would be inpossible. If ever Megaplay would be at the edge of being guilty, they can just abandon the gambling platform and make a new one under other people's names. If this is true it will be totally wrong and not only unethical 'coz it is a form of cheating on their end.
It's very simple to detect in case some gamblers don't know, when you make suspicious activities over the gambling platforms they begin to track and trace your steps till you're finally apprehended, I don't know how unacceptable is thebuse of bot on some of the gambling sites today than what their ToS clearly states on that, creating fake account with the intention of making an achievement will not last because the whole thing will later cast and be known, why are we then in rush from doing the norms in an absurd ways and manners that are provoking to hear.
Or simply move away from that site if you are being suspiscious of it unless your funds are being held by them. Ofcourse we would be wanting justice for those who were taken advantage of, if ever this is true. However that won't be too easy in web 3.0 for sure.
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First of all, as said by others earlier, your claims are not backed with data or proof so how exactly do you expect the community to believe in what you say? It's your word against theirs, and that isn't enough. However, I personally believe that gamblers should basically stick with reputable and trusted gambling platforms to avoid such things. If you join newly launched platforms every now and then, you will definitely see things that you might find being not normal.

If we talk about the community and the impact of this thing on it, as I said, the community would probably not choose to use a casino platform that is extremely new and doesn't have much of a reputation as well, so most gamblers from the community will probably avoid such platforms.
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I think this is likely a common practice, my only question would be around the legality of the practice itself. As user, one is responsible to bet with care and only for fun, while the fun lasts. These bots could be also humans paid to play against you with the houses money which is also a common concern, but on the end is about you having fun is it not?
Well it definitely wouldn't exactly be ethical. Casinos host promotions to bring in players, and usually offer a boosted prize pool when doing such. If the casino wants to allow their employees to bet their own money and participate in the contest, then it could be seen as ok. If the casino is funding those players to participate in order to cheat regular players out of higher standings and bigger prizes, then it would def be a very unfair promotion and the casino shouldn't be viewed as trusted.
And the main question is, how we would be able to determine if they are really that doing such scheme or such act? There's no way that we could be able to determine whether they are playing fair or not.

We cant really be able to tell if those players or participants are really that true players and not with in part of the casino team which they are funded.This is why if you are really that always that skeptical about
these probabilities then it would really be just that better that stick with those current existing reputable casinos rather than on testing or playing out on sites which are something new or not really that
been proved to be that trustworthy. It is really just that there are people or gamblers who are really that dubious when it comes to this aspect. Well, if ever a casino is been doing this then sooner or later
they might be caught which it would really be resulting for their business to be over once these things been leaked out and seen by the community then say goodbye into  your business since
players would be flocking out and be finding out on places on which they do seem that it could be trusted.
Going off topic for a sec here but why does your post look funny? You using AI? Copy/paste? Why are you breaking up a sentence in the middle and making a pasrtial line, then finishing the thought on a new line?

To answer, you will not be able to tell unless someone on the inside snitches. Otherwise, it would be very hard to come up with proof.
Its just my usual response and im not really making use of those you call AI or copy paste.  Cheesy Im sorry if it do looks funny but this is based according to my own understanding and just saying up my opinion.

In overall, its not really something that can be known unless if there would really be leaks which we know that its 99% guaranteed that there would be no smoke that comes out if ever they would be deciding
on running a competition or promotion which allowing their own team to join up and been funded.  Fake accounts i do rather believe that will really be that possible in abusing some bonuses or promotions
which is really on that users side which is casual.
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The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true.
Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims.
You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions?
I don't know why op is trying to accuse a casino when he has no evidence. How on earth would a casino use bots and fake accounts to manipulate her own system to make extra profits when it obvious that this would create a big alarm at the end.

 No casino would want to do this kind of things and if op think he was convinced enough to write this  post then he need to bring proof and not to tell us something without any evidence. Many casinos are looking for ways to generate more traffic from users not to decieve users by creating fake account to manipulate her own community. Very surprising because I still don't get what op is trying to inform us.

Some may do that so they will not spend huge amount to distribute to other people. Its like saving some money and continue marketing their site by having that promotion but its so hard to verify that unless OP or anyone have proof that this type of activities like using bots to deceive legit player is existing to their casino.
Maybe for now OP should gather more evidence to make his accusation strong so that many of us here will see if that accusation is valid or not.
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Since the allegations aren't made provable, then that's not supposed to be considered at all... It could be they themselves are tryna maneuver thier ways to make easy winning possible....until that fact is made probable, we CANNOT attest to that..
Secondly, this information can possibly be true since casinos may wanna try to curb the wins on occasions like this...
P/s: you haven't added any sourcelink to confirm this information... isn't this supposed to termed plagiarism since it's not your original information??

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The topic's title makes it sound like the accusation has been confirmed with conclusive evidence, which is not true.
Sure, you have the right to have doubts but you can't make accusations like that publicly without having sufficient evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, some may think you are trying to attack the casino by smearing their reputation through false claims.
You talked about running an investigation, how do you think this can be done? Any suggestions?
I don't know why op is trying to accuse a casino when he has no evidence. How on earth would a casino use bots and fake accounts to manipulate her own system to make extra profits when it obvious that this would create a big alarm at the end.

 No casino would want to do this kind of things and if op think he was convinced enough to write this  post then he need to bring proof and not to tell us something without any evidence. Many casinos are looking for ways to generate more traffic from users not to decieve users by creating fake account to manipulate her own community. Very surprising because I still don't get what op is trying to inform us.
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It's very simple to detect in case some gamblers don't know, when you make suspicious activities over the gambling platforms they begin to track and trace your steps till you're finally apprehended, I don't know how unacceptable is thebuse of bot on some of the gambling sites today than what their ToS clearly states on that, creating fake account with the intention of making an achievement will not last because the whole thing will later cast and be known, why are we then in rush from doing the norms in an absurd ways and manners that are provoking to hear.
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