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Quote from: eduffield on May 31, 2014, 04:21:52 PM

In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.

Excuse my ignoarnce but what is RC3 and RC4?
Thanks again...you are a great help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

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Why will you method be useless by then?
And thanks again

Currently, Payments are free from linking.
In RC4, changes will be free from linking.

The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago.
Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care.
Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 14, 2014, 12:39:09 AM

Quote from: adhitthana on June 13, 2014, 11:42:52 PM

Quote from: adhitthana on June 13, 2014, 11:42:52 PM

In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.

Excuse my ignoarnce but what is RC3 and RC4?
Thanks again...you are a great help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

Grin

Why will you method be useless by then?
And thanks again

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Quote from: adhitthana on June 13, 2014, 11:36:24 PM

In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.

Excuse my ignoarnce but what is RC3 and RC4?
Thanks again...you are a great help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

Grin

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 09, 2014, 09:26:57 AM

I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.

I think you were able to link them, or some of them, but I guess it depends what a "hard link" is. That term is not necessarily clear.
I think he wanted "proof" which would be able to be used even with many more transaction.

Do you think your method would have worked with thousands of different transactions rather than a smaller number, even if you had an analysing tool?

Have you heard satoshi spamming ?
I have thouht it's kind of mapping, creating hard link by spent.

Code:

As I write this people with unknown motivations are raining down tiny little payments on old addresses,
presumably in an effort to get wallets to consume them and create evidence of common address ownership.

It's happening in Bitcoin.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinjoin-bitcoin-privacy-for-the-real-world-279249

Example.

Anyone heard about Satoshi spamming ?

https://blockchain.info/tx/31ec9a1cea9804c4f0321b4486261af8586f0c930edf0b4fd1f16b06ec583492
https://blockchain.info/tx/31ec9a1cea9804c4f0321b4486261af8586f0c930edf0b4fd1f16b06ec583492?show_adv=true

What for ? Just Advertising ?

I would call it as mapping.

1GmFQ13XAfDyMY4QGbXeFgbEWVJ9q5NatE

-->

http://blockr.io/tx/info/b8d06ba404ce860e42fc9e8c37960fd1e31e17941a2750d1556f094737291731

--> 16FgQXGzSLRtdwuwCN7mcaPUtbJ6JFTkVw

Code:

18itQ7vv83AJo7831mwYYkThReKPJtp9mp -0.00243328
1KVe3Ys4aUgnstigRXvk1oEcnLmUBPocvM -0.7747437
1PBm4GtvLT7XVjQtQWuSQoDbBcBQPG5kB2 -87.2034174
1HqnT7EY6JdAm6pQkhp1rMdzvSREFvDV1W -15.42570118
1BSFnvBZzDACnVcs3PkASnA8ky9wCoiJV7 -1e-8
13vuxnEeFaJ8y24KmFYAy1oH58sY8crqje -1e-8
1KkAEQEFZZ6JGaP5eCMnB4geq69D2YXy7j -1e-8
19hdrZw5zHaizHprx84K9ys9aMB2T7QUdH -1e-8
1Ejw88MT7taf5EmTUWBH5nZAkhLrkfHQHY -1e-8
18itQ7vv83AJo7831mwYYkThReKPJtp9mp -1e-8
18GFvPsuYTHTJPfmtkgZVq94SKCEQjdUGZ -1e-8
19WGRTCW8kEfGYjG6XjPu52iUmHnzYA9or -1e-8
1KpxTZ7e9jSBYiFcXxjquYzzqTamqeA1n6 -1e-8
18dZjEboXm9sqmN7ChHQURJRCzCJZ5SN5L -1e-8
18quFyqjJt5qszjgrmNFsphy12U3CHQ7pZ -1e-8
1QJW1EsuXGGshWLTy6WUrS4MHpttYNiAi1 -1e-8
1Aejtjs142HcKJ9GT5nz81xZifUvgCwe9k -1e-8
1FzgLHNoPxazVYSbdezT6LKKGQ7iPRZNi2 -1e-8
1GLB6NTKP6YePC2kY3gyL4PbN9W9QMY81h -1e-8
1GzXvYvF3WicXNk7LjsR8XmM3mC9PD59tf -1e-8
1GmFQ13XAfDyMY4QGbXeFgbEWVJ9q5NatE -1e-8
1PfssmiZFPjg6YpQfKmxCmTVSdCdh386fy -1e-8
1DdUJwtE1kHkEiNc4W98avbfDBPFo4VcoP -1e-8
12sv6DivTjRooxcLBJDp8gvgzbgkzpM3R1 -1e-8
1EDnGiKS9RYTgoXcakyhbKYjrD1EPRVxBg -1e-8
1H8sVSrsxrKUT5282sZAuMcLnUmDAxAXTi -1e-8
1L5vhnbomi8BhMyWPxSSfMCixHvs7c1gbQ -1e-8
15vruUpv1qYSt9D8pDRwH7RsY4GRF925Ze -1e-8

a input(meaning 1 wallet) to 16FgQXGzSLRtdwuwCN7mcaPUtbJ6JFTkVw 103.4062958

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In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.

Excuse my ignoarnce but what is RC3 and RC4?
Thanks again...you are a great help

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 13, 2014, 09:29:28 PM

I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.

I think you were able to link them, or some of them, but I guess it depends what a "hard link" is. That term is not necessarily clear.
I think he wanted "proof" which would be able to be used even with many more transaction.

Do you think your method would have worked with thousands of different transactions rather than a smaller number, even if you had an analysing tool?

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My intentions on Unmoderated XC thread:

The right of privacy.

Haha owned this thread in one sentence. Anyonymity. What anonymity. Privacy at best.

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My intentions on Unmoderated XC thread:

The right of privacy.

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Quote from: mr_random on June 13, 2014, 06:30:58 PM

So I notice our friend Chaeplin, is doing a lot of talking in the other XC topic and his criticisms fall into two categories below which I respond to here:

1. Xnodes could in theory "steal" XC.

Answer: My understanding is that Rev 2 will have a trust learning algorithm and the dev has said coins cannot be stolen. However if we look at DRK, I believe they use signatures which removes the incentive for mixer nodes to steal the mixed coins. Why don't we also do that ON TOP of the trust learning algorithm? Then we have the best of both and that completely destroys the argument.

2. XC transfer is not anonymous and can be linked

Answer: Dev has an open challenge right now that hasn't been solved yet, based on the new multi-path protocol. I'm confident in the devs ability. I would also be interested to see whether Chaeplins methods can be applied to DRK?

Quote from: eduffield on May 31, 2014, 04:21:52 PM

The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago. Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care. Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.

What a talented troll.

What is signatures of mr_random ?

Quote

MRO ~ 100% anonymous working coin ~ Memory hard ASIC resistant algorithm

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 13, 2014, 08:53:24 PM

Quote from: benthach on June 13, 2014, 08:49:57 PM

~~you little whore. that is single path and old challenge.~~

What did he say ?

"There is no hard link"

Now it's XC community turn.

Do analysis, make your coin strong, better.

post us your answer of sender address or addresses if wallet have more than one addresses. let us judge, you and XC dev. if anyone refused to reveal the answer then the person is a dishonest coward.

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Quote from: benthach on June 13, 2014, 08:49:57 PM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 13, 2014, 08:47:26 PM

Quote from: benthach on June 13, 2014, 08:36:35 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 13, 2014, 05:34:09 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 13, 2014, 02:01:20 PM

I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's

I am going to put a password zip file online with the details


ATSECURE

it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address

Quote from: JakeThePanda on June 13, 2014, 07:28:49 PM

Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.

By the way, I am not interrested.

you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.

I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.

atcsecure will reveal the hard link / answer /detail as i quoted atcsecure above. if we don't get answer from you then you must of little coward bitch that you is. you still have honor if you answer now that you can't no longer trace the transaction. if you don't take the challenge then, yes, you little coward bitch.

Well, do it yourself. It's your coin.

Answer this first.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7270701

you little whore. that is single path and old challenge.

This is the definition of "Grasping at straws".

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Quote from: benthach on June 13, 2014, 08:49:57 PM

~~you little whore. that is single path and old challenge.~~

What did he say ?

"There is no hard link"

Now it's XC community turn.

Do analysis, make your coin strong, better.

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 13, 2014, 08:47:26 PM

Quote from: benthach on June 13, 2014, 08:36:35 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 13, 2014, 05:34:09 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 13, 2014, 02:01:20 PM

I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's

I am going to put a password zip file online with the details

ATSECURE

it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address

Quote from: JakeThePanda on June 13, 2014, 07:28:49 PM

Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.

By the way, I am not interrested.

you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.

I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.

atcsecure will reveal the hard link / answer /detail as i quoted atcsecure above. if we don't get answer from you then you must of little coward bitch that you is. you still have honor if you answer now that you can't no longer trace the transaction. if you don't take the challenge then, yes, you little coward bitch.

Well, do it yourself. It's your coin.

Answer this first.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7270701

you little whore. that is single path and old challenge.

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Quote from: benthach on June 13, 2014, 08:36:35 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 13, 2014, 05:34:09 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 13, 2014, 02:01:20 PM

I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's

I am going to put a password zip file online with the details

ATSECURE

it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address

Quote from: JakeThePanda on June 13, 2014, 07:28:49 PM

Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.

By the way, I am not interrested.

you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.

I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.

atcsecure will reveal the hard link / answer /detail as i quoted atcsecure above. if we don't get answer from you then you must of little coward bitch that you is. you still have honor if you answer now that you can't no longer trace the transaction. if you don't take the challenge then, yes, you little coward bitch.

Well, do it yourself. It's your coin.

Answer this first.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7270701

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 13, 2014, 05:34:09 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 13, 2014, 02:01:20 PM

I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's

I am going to put a password zip file online with the details

ATSECURE

it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address

Quote from: JakeThePanda on June 13, 2014, 07:28:49 PM

Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.

By the way, I am not interrested.

you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.

I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.

atcsecure will reveal the hard link / answer /detail as i quoted atcsecure above. if we don't get answer from you then you must of little coward bitch that you is. you still have honor if you answer now that you can't no longer trace the transaction. if you don't take the challenge then, yes, you little coward bitch.

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Quote from: From Above on June 13, 2014, 07:48:38 PM

Quote from: illodin on June 13, 2014, 07:44:52 PM

Quote from: From Above on June 13, 2014, 07:38:34 PM

lol@xc

lol what

it's full nynomyous multipath paradigm protocol with blockchain2.0

lol

Its a multi-path warp vortex coin moving platform coupled character convergence paradigm with bleeding edge self-motivated dynamic enterprise grade trust learning system which will be housed in blockchain 2.0

All developed in 4 weeks. All your base belong to us. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: JakeThePanda on June 13, 2014, 07:28:49 PM

Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.

By the way, I am not interrested.

you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.

I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.

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wow seems really really easy

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As I write this people with unknown motivations are raining down tiny little payments on old addresses, presumably in an effort to get wallets to consume them and create evidence of common address ownership.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinjoin-bitcoin-privacy-for-the-real-world-279249

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