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June 11, 2014, 06:26:36 PM
chaeplin's point is that the user is depositing i XC into a new unspent output, which is not moved. Then sometime later but not excessively far in the future i pops out at some other address. He says that this is a link and is correct. The dev wants a physical path to follow when there isn't technically one, yet there is still a path. You just have some patience and some scripting experience.

That is what I gathered, anyway.
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June 11, 2014, 05:59:54 PM
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June 11, 2014, 05:56:05 PM
Analyzing XC mixer transaction by spamming.



Dev refused bounty.

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...




lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards


I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0




and you have address XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV - which made the payment




Okay so we know 2 things, XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV  SENT a payment to XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


now - can that be tied back to the original transaction?Huh










Hmm. I don't see any link back to the original transaction




maybe this will help


original transaction --->>>> which was sent TO this address "XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G"


http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G


so now I've revealed the transaction ^^^^^ with this data you should be able to find the original senders wallet ^^^^^^ then take that original senders wallet and search XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ for the link





what is his point? the mixer address [output] used for this transaction is visible? well of course it yes, we aren't using quantum physics to send the coins, the issue is the mixers input address and original senders output address


since we provided the "last leg"of the TX, he can only back trace to the mixer itself, so far he has NOT Proven anything else



So when you send from original address A to the receiving address D , it goes to the mixer B, the mixer makes a new address C to send the amount to the receiver D? And Chaeplin doesn't get only A?

And chaeplin is adding that the mixer only uses one address for you, so once you know A, you can trace it. Which is what I said before. You have to assume A is known.


that is not how the mixer work's


The highlevel summary is this

The mixer tells the client to send coins to wallet b, however wallet C is used to send coins to the final user, there is NO link from wallet B to wallet C unless somebody manually moves the coins from C to B




seeing how the inputs at http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G are unspent, you can't - it is impossible


ah, somebody is spamming that address w/ transactions 0.003 and 0.03


It's me, sorry.

Now you get my point.

XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G is a NEW address aka wallet b.




Code:
this is the received mix transaction

http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0



—> block 28768
Code:
Hash9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac
Appeared inX11Coin 28768 (2014-06-11 20:21:51)
Number of inputs2 (Jump to inputs)
Total in2.2
Number of outputs1 (Jump to outputs)
Total out2.19999
Size344 bytes
Fee0.00001
Raw transaction

Inputs

Index   Previous output Amount  From address    ScriptSig
0       84da450271...:1 0.955069        XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV      71:3044...9b01 33:03eb...cd11
1       1c9523ca31...:1 1.244931        XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV      73:3046...9401 33:03eb...cd11
Outputs

Index   Redeemed at input       Amount  To address      ScriptPubKey
0       Not yet redeemed        2.19999 XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ      DUP HASH160 20:cb0b...0bf4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG






Code:
original transaction --->>>> which was sent TO this address "XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G"


http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G


—>

Code:
XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G

Transaction     Block   Approx. Time    Amount  Balance Currency
042451b856...   28764   2014-06-11 20:13:06     0.396016        0.396016        XC
c9e67b0f21...   28764   2014-06-11 20:13:06     1.803984        2.2     XC



block 28764 to block 28768

Code:
* ====> Working block height 28764 has 8 tx

* ====> Searchng XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G

tx: 2   percent 100      value 2.2

*===> block reached

*===> Searchng 28768 : diff : 4

*===> XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ 2.19999 link is : XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G <----> XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV


Simple python scripts analyze the transaction.
Dev wants hard link.

Now where is link between
XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV and XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G


Easy part.

Mapping.

If there is many transactions, We don't need this.
Block explorer will show the link.

x11coind sendmany 123 '{"XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G": 0.003, "XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV":0.003}’
x11coind sendmany 123 '{"XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G": 0.03, "XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV":0.03}'

!

Watch out.

!


When coins is spent, hard link will appear.



Code:
    {
        "account" : "123",
        "address" : "XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00300000,
        "fee" : -0.00001000,
        "confirmations" : 34,
        "blockhash" : "1f986c7643436e328456252db9d0def76a97f9c2bae10e3ee73a9d427f8f149f",
        "blockindex" : 2,
        "blocktime" : 1402520792,
        "txid" : "eaaa2b356d49c2b5953ecbe4ec112ba8a7fd94c73ee6181b7b837749eca5568e",
        "time" : 1402520581,
        "timereceived" : 1402520581
    },
    {
        "account" : "123",
        "address" : "XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.00300000,
        "fee" : -0.00001000,
        "confirmations" : 34,
        "blockhash" : "1f986c7643436e328456252db9d0def76a97f9c2bae10e3ee73a9d427f8f149f",
        "blockindex" : 2,
        "blocktime" : 1402520792,
        "txid" : "eaaa2b356d49c2b5953ecbe4ec112ba8a7fd94c73ee6181b7b837749eca5568e",
        "time" : 1402520581,
        "timereceived" : 1402520581
    },
    {
        "account" : "123",
        "address" : "XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.03000000,
        "fee" : -0.00001000,
        "confirmations" : 34,
        "blockhash" : "1f986c7643436e328456252db9d0def76a97f9c2bae10e3ee73a9d427f8f149f",
        "blockindex" : 3,
        "blocktime" : 1402520792,
        "txid" : "d191290208e31f6cf09c360b9f8bb671cea32dded456f00061a00496c8c60263",
        "time" : 1402520778,
        "timereceived" : 1402520778
    },
    {
        "account" : "123",
        "address" : "XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G",
        "category" : "send",
        "amount" : -0.03000000,
        "fee" : -0.00001000,
        "confirmations" : 34,
        "blockhash" : "1f986c7643436e328456252db9d0def76a97f9c2bae10e3ee73a9d427f8f149f",
        "blockindex" : 3,
        "blocktime" : 1402520792,
        "txid" : "d191290208e31f6cf09c360b9f8bb671cea32dded456f00061a00496c8c60263",
        "time" : 1402520778,
        "timereceived" : 1402520778
    }
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June 11, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
I'd like to see somebody match input/outputs on the last transaction I posted...
I don't think anyone will be able to. But is the bounty only 100 XC...or about 0.15 BTC?
Saw some members putting up a lot larger bounty sums up before. If maketing is in place & ATC had some more time for additional coding this could go viral....



http://cryptexplorer.com/block/1f986c7643436e328456252db9d0def76a97f9c2bae10e3ee73a9d427f8f149f


somebody is trying to make a link AFTER the fact LOL






sending 0.03 to both address's doesn't count as a LINK


but thanks for the XC's



Let's post this here before Chaeplin claims that there is a link...

He's trying to make a fake link on the blockchain...   

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June 11, 2014, 02:54:28 PM


Really? Good to know.

Anyway, You want hard link, that two address of mixer are connected.
Right ?


 

yes


Then code is right. Sending to real payee works good.

Problem is received coins are reused.

Proof :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7254769

I have to prove two address is related.
XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb === XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC

Right ?
 



ah but the received coins that are re-used at not from that transaction, it is from an earlier transaction through the mixer, so a different SENDER

Right. not from that transaction.

Used address by Mixer is related after all.

In this case, txs are fewer, so very clear.

It's related after 10 ~~ many blocks after.

So I call it flaw.






Ah, so there is no provable direct link

thank you



1FzikiCbBUM2YnatvHS9ufJtrUqkmuMD8s is mine.

okay show me the proof of link?



http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96187.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96160.htm


1FzikiCbBUM2YnatvHS9ufJtrUqkmuMD8s is mine.

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June 11, 2014, 01:19:17 PM

FYI:

Code:
* ====> Working block height 28617 has 10 tx
* ====> Searchng XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb
tx: 7 percent 95 value 2.2
*===> block reached
*===> Searchng 28618 : diff : 1
*===> XV49MnmtTirtZSQ2jtgisvNhNr6DduzCNu 2.19999 link is : XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb <----> XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC


http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?28617.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96074.htm
Code:
Details for Transaction
Hash 3680e4bd53607ff677eb94fd0b15f17cdf21f6c8e89a0b5b573c5a2ee13cfdb5
Blockheight 28617 (34 confirmations)
Date/Time 2014-06-11 16:03:57
Total Output 21.49996 XC
Fee 1,E-5.0 XC

 
Inputs / Outputs
Raw Transaction
Inputs
Index Previous output Address Amount
0 762a501de829...:0 XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw 21.49997 XC
Outputs
Index Redeemed in Address Amount
0 4eba6dee5d2a... XCfsrU7KGy6hzCmfvF47FjC2Mj56tqxR9d 21.484411 XC
1 dd438f2fbd86... XPpRHV6hWFDnQvNhu7WaRy6h6KfGkmx9Hb 0.015549 XC



http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/block.dws?28618.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96083.htm
Code:

Hash 1cd9a9bdc8cadc55de21d1dc640aa35bd0bc631f52d54e373b49c1b4ac3a42ed
Blockheight 28618 (33 confirmations)
Date/Time 2014-06-11 16:04:47
Total Output 2.210008 XC
Fee 4,E-5.0 XC

 
Inputs / Outputs
Raw Transaction
Inputs
Index Previous output Address Amount
0 2e4b75ef5a19...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
1 cd32a1861879...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
2 3ce0db590e12...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
3 02db662529db...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
4 447508bf02da...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
5 2d78dc9f56f4...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
6 11c03ded1646...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
7 621e30ceab64...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
8 94fdca2ed122...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
9 8b9b2670d7fe...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
10 9e0042d13a8c...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
11 3bf012c2084a...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
12 88d3f916833b...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
13 d3c04cd03e84...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
14 c2f94d8a07f7...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
15 6bf82a41a9ea...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
16 41a3ee9ac44a...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
17 5e4064a65a3b...:1 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.00002 XC
18 3dd4c6f4142d...:1 XXh8LXMKYXiZ8dJMs57cBSZ93tDZddSoF7 0.003 XC
19 0a17a0ab48af...:2 XFY3XchgfA16dFv9pFVDTpCGg2q7TWUNtC 0.003 XC
20 2ef543f876d2...:1 XUZvnU6MrxH49AVaSKwsXJMsyPoicrP6g2 0.100593 XC
21 a5e213619ea1...:1 XFx7u2jjP2TSQA34m6wJRugivcsJPG9yHN 0.003 XC
22 c933acb99fd0...:1 XUZvnU6MrxH49AVaSKwsXJMsyPoicrP6g2 0.003 XC
23 339cf1265d09...:1 XFx7u2jjP2TSQA34m6wJRugivcsJPG9yHN 2.094095 XC
24 b83aee2ba80c...:2 XYjDp5K1XTHn5ajiVxtaKw7CoL9CzRZKM2 0.003 XC
Outputs
Index Redeemed in Address Amount
0 Not yet redeemed XU9zPC349F4QVJmcn96d1S86bA9TwiyR7q 0.010018 XC
1 Not yet redeemed XV49MnmtTirtZSQ2jtgisvNhNr6DduzCNuBITTREX 2.19999 XC


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June 11, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
ATCSecure?

do whatever md5, sha, anything.

like this 'tuuiuauiyduayidsyauiydsaiuydsiuayd_[real_address]_lkjlkajslkdjalksjdalskdjalkjdsalkdjalks'


and post result.




Then when I submit address, Dev should tell input of whatever hash.

Again, I'm not doing that, if he knows the address then he should post it




Why should I ?

I havn't submitted wrong address.

Only Dev said 'is not the sender address'.

So not interested.


why don't you just post the address if you really know it and help with the bug fixing? Denying to help will only make you a troll and a FUDer
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June 11, 2014, 12:28:07 PM
ATCSecure?

do whatever md5, sha, anything.

like this 'tuuiuauiyduayidsyauiydsaiuydsiuayd_[real_address]_lkjlkajslkdjalksjdalskdjalkjdsalkdjalks'


and post result.




Then when I submit address, Dev should tell input of whatever hash.

Again, I'm not doing that, if he knows the address then he should post it




Why should I ?

I havn't submitted wrong address.

Only Dev said 'is not the sender address'.

So not interested.
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June 11, 2014, 12:23:28 PM
ATCSecure?

do whatever md5, sha, anything.

like this 'tuuiuauiyduayidsyauiydsaiuydsiuayd_[real_address]_lkjlkajslkdjalksjdalskdjalkjdsalkdjalks'


and post result.




Then when I submit address, Dev should tell input of whatever hash.

Again, I'm not doing that, if he knows the address then he should post it



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June 11, 2014, 12:09:50 PM
do whatever md5, sha, anything.

like this 'tuuiuauiyduayidsyauiydsaiuydsiuayd_[real_address]_lkjlkajslkdjalksjdalskdjalkjdsalkdjalks'


and post result.




Then when I submit address, Dev should tell input of whatever hash.
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June 11, 2014, 12:02:15 PM


same tx


sender -------- > mixer ----> payee
change<--------|

Grin  


First tell dev to post md5 of  whateverattached_senderaddress.

If he knows the address he should post it...


ATC is right not to post the MD5, someone could write a scrypt scanning the blockchain for all used addresses & checking there MD5.
With both start & begin addresses finding the route between is easy.

If md5 posted it should be in a encrypted file we can all download first. After the answer has been given, release the password.


there is no need, when/if somebody posts the address, I will provide the details to the other side of the transaction which will either prove they are correct or prove they are wrong
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June 11, 2014, 11:34:30 AM
ATCSecure?


First tell dev to post md5 of  whateverattached_senderaddress.
Keep saying " ~ is not the address".

Not interested in.

+ tell dev, change address is yours.


WRONG - that change address is not related to the real source address


here is another one....


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/7337f03cc1d0b726d1fb8b0b9e66bc6cc796853379b75d7dd193e6d5e9c33c4f#o0





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June 11, 2014, 10:08:34 AM
Paging, paging Dr Chaeplin.  Please report to the nearest XC thread at once.

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June 11, 2014, 06:57:57 AM
ref:

ver. XCv0.9.1.41x11-coin-1.0

sendfrommixer "1" XH2xAiXB2H6tXSraubgfxWHKRUJR8rWdHm 0.1

Its my mintpal deposit adress and that is working i have now 0.09999 at my mintpal deposit.
I have searched a direct link to this transaction but i cant find one with my user perspective.
Xnode has been paid for but its not mine i'm curious to know what is the xnode that has been paid for this transaction.

Nice work ATCsecure !



!!

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?95279.htm
Code:

Hash a57d4def3d08fe7753a77f8ac05b7a757105d72dcf0f33dd6aafd910a51a0ed0
Blockheight 28315 (142 confirmations)
Date/Time 2014-06-11 03:16:37
Total Output 16.372583 XC
Fee 0.0 XC

 
Inputs / Outputs
Raw Transaction
Inputs
Index Previous output Address Amount
0 40f01abd6d11...:0 XHaUgNe5rZ6Avf7bwXGBCWdxD5nCxqAxVo 16.382583 XC
Outputs
Index Redeemed in Address Amount
0 Not yet redeemed XWtcrjseXhMBDBvGPfwXq3SVKhdv7qiLcG 16.310359 XC
1 Not yet redeemed XSroWK3bng8awEdZs5eZXUqXgyn4RPr7cG 0.062224 XC

-->
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?93622.htm
Code:
Hash	40f01abd6d11e15a0d722c1419a31358d7b399d5e9a4f3d742959122462a03d6
Blockheight 27754 (703 confirmations)
Date/Time 2014-06-09 19:43:38
Total Output 16.45 XC
Fee 0.0 XC

 
Inputs / Outputs
Raw Transaction
Inputs
Index Previous output Address Amount
0 afe2802947d5...:1 XEuKHQieqYF2xJQ73m92GsY6nkiRjToE9R 16.46 XC
Outputs
Index Redeemed in Address Amount
0 a57d4def3d08... XHaUgNe5rZ6Avf7bwXGBCWdxD5nCxqAxVo 16.382583 XC
1 Not yet redeemed XHx9XtGvaN5kbzfjpEqgSy4pjw6aU6vjae 0.067417 XC

-->
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?93120.htm
Code:
Hash	afe2802947d5737695fd90c6fab5061fdb2a75fd8fe2bbf2be34b74f0925d093
Blockheight 27557 (900 confirmations)
Date/Time 2014-06-09 10:10:06
Total Output 32.928647 XC
Proof of Stake + Fees 0.028647 XC

 
Inputs / Outputs
Raw Transaction
Inputs
Index Previous output Address Amount
0 9ff63a3e7c94...:1 XEuKHQieqYF2xJQ73m92GsY6nkiRjToE9R 32.9 XC
Outputs
Index Redeemed in Address Amount
0 40f01abd6d11... XEuKHQieqYF2xJQ73m92GsY6nkiRjToE9R 16.46 XC
1 44f76163aca2... XEuKHQieqYF2xJQ73m92GsY6nkiRjToE9R 16.468647 XC
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June 10, 2014, 08:43:02 PM
Can someone explain to me why the XC mixing method does not mix coins?
The mixer does mix coins. It's been tested many times.
However coins that don't go through the mixer don't get mixed. Pretty simple.
 
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June 10, 2014, 08:08:19 PM
What's up DRK fuddsters?  We should just call this thread "Scared Darkcoin Holders".
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June 10, 2014, 05:02:47 PM
Can someone explain to me why the XC mixing method does not mix coins? Wouldn't that make XC fundamentally broken?
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June 10, 2014, 12:26:02 PM
ref:
Code:
user@sv2:~/x11coin> ./run.py 28100  28800
* ====> Working block height 28131 has 4 tx
* ====> Searchng XEzxKvqABQY3mzxMx1J13Sd3Pn92eqw2is
tx: 2 percent 100 value 0.1

* ====> Working block height 28169 has 8 tx
* ====> Searchng XQS9sQ7aojzyUMmjwS6WUzJPR16N1q2jGx
tx: 2 percent 100 value 2.602155
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June 10, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
I just received 0.001 XC a few minutes ago, may be you sent it.

Yes. input, output, change.
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