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sr. member
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June 01, 2014, 08:10:08 AM
Let's find where is mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85

....

Oh mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 popup.

mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 has nothing.
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 can send nothing.

Why search mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 in video ??

So all it takes is a handful of clicks to get to the originating address. That's neither sophisticated or anonymous at all...

Oh you have missed my point, I am not talking sophisticated or anonymous thing.

I show you how to use block explorer.
This analysis start from mixer tx id to past.

How well conceal whois the payee is my concern.

Read my https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7064610
By using mixer real payee is concealed to a certain level.

But prototype design has a pro...

Mixer have to send coin to real payee.

When ? after 2 ~ n block is confirmed.

This time gap is problem.

Rev2 should address this.
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
June 01, 2014, 08:02:11 AM
Even setting aside the Anon garbage, this has to be one of the worst POS coins ever created:

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#

Seriously? That's the slowest POS blockchain I have ever seen. Not to mention, endless issues with staking and wallet sync issues. Just terrible. The reason you know loljosh created it is because he also created SYNC, and if you check their thread, they have *exactly the same issues.*

Most POS coins, like BlackCoin for example (or almost any other properly developed POS coin) get a confirmation of a transaction in 10-30 secs. POS blocks are consistently generated in under one minute. Staking is painless. Checkpointing is properly implemented. I don't know what the hell is going on with XC's kludge, but if it can't even sort out this kind of elementary stuff, how the hell do you propose to trust it with some kind of 'paradigm breaking' anon tech?

Red flags all over the place.

Can't believe I invested in this thing. Oh well, out now!
full member
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June 01, 2014, 07:53:39 AM
Can you show that DRK is anonymous ?
newbie
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June 01, 2014, 07:43:49 AM
Let's find where is mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85

....

Oh mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 popup.

mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 has nothing.
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 can send nothing.

Why search mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 in video ??

So all it takes is a handful of clicks to get to the originating address. That's neither sophisticated or anonymous at all according to the claims made by XC...
sr. member
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June 01, 2014, 07:42:40 AM

bushstar from feathercoin?

welcome Smiley

That's correct. I do a lot of commissioned work to get the bills paid. When launching Feathercoin we learned a lot the hard way and I now spend a lot of time helping teams with their projects. I've helped a fair few teams launch with work complete before launch or assist after launch to secure blockchains, get the required infrastructure in place and so on. I subscribe to the open source ethos which largely seems forgotten in crypto I believe due to the involvement of money. We are all working with open source Bitcoin code, we want diversity to see crypto adapt and evolve. Bitcoin to the most part has to maintain the status quo so it is in alternative crypto currencies where we will see the innovation. If something is a really good idea then as we are in open source others can use it including Bitcoin.

: commissioned work
sr. member
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June 01, 2014, 07:14:09 AM
Let's find where is mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85


open http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 c9bfdd9b22...:0 0.898795 mqb58nmjXvjy2r9ygpJY3mXLPss5CvBvK5 72:3045...3401 33:03eb...e5bd
1 f1928df7ff...:0 0.969379 moGRQxKg7QGUENPnDeErZjrHbSfuHNSoLu 72:3045...7e01 33:02dc...19b8
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 4f836ad73f...:5 0.696382 mthXNUYbqWBJz91zi1hUiDW4c3CgXDvtVK DUP HASH160 20:9099...3dd6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 7f4b06ae9c...:0 1.171772 mzvu2b5Ya4GtFum9vCyvu4MAvLEgnJSsCW DUP HASH160 20:d4f1...e3ae EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

check input index 0
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/c9bfdd9b227786d4d3f4e8a494459396df0a857ff6913c1b1fb25b3f8b5da724#o0
mqb58nmjXvjy2r9ygpJY3mXLPss5CvBvK5 is output index 0 address
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 44f214d70a...:0 1.28706 n4GrybhCUP4TjoxSeUyo2LjAHhMrrGYjM2 73:3046...ba01 33:021b...f9f3
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 92a7e218f7...:0 0.898795 mqb58nmjXvjy2r9ygpJY3mXLPss5CvBvK5 DUP HASH160 20:6e78...adab EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 e19b31b205...:2 0.388255 mhxd9sDeotkkgoshn31tiCxW7Nhvosuv2j DUP HASH160 20:1acb...5935 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep checking  input index 0
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/44f214d70a68d5040ecef722fc63c0108e2f5ac2cc8ff21239adb1e0675cdca2#o0
n4GrybhCUP4TjoxSeUyo2LjAHhMrrGYjM2 is ouput index 0 address
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 d14cda6ac8...:1 1.29706 n1aQSA72b8CyaiEiUd1tpqUvrshDxhE3nZ 73:3046...8d01 33:0331...b14c
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 c9bfdd9b22...:0 1.28706 n4GrybhCUP4TjoxSeUyo2LjAHhMrrGYjM2 DUP HASH160 20:f9a0...9f66 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 c934aa1833...:3 0.00999 msEi9uUingF5iAfxaUvkxmyfELRHx5L82X DUP HASH160 20:808f...914d EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/d14cda6ac80d1e5e2cd4c178447e32ed6ee0089cc673e91c61772d24662c5bfa#o1
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 961378a645...:0 1.49998 mk3brjBq66oZwTZZgeDEdCrbt3FAo5zV6Z 73:3046...1a01 33:029d...c9b0
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 642a962fb0...:0 0.20291 mmadRVHyzV46B7cEozTfoJpcMKfco2FvWN DUP HASH160 20:4282...08cf EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 44f214d70a...:0 1.29706 n1aQSA72b8CyaiEiUd1tpqUvrshDxhE3nZ DUP HASH160 20:dc09...caf6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG


keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/961378a6450c24ab7ef021d0a564d3ba943b406d058c4c2f9723a384dba4f93b#o0
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 2d7609d913...:1 4.99999 mie1xHHGxrQnainUPNn5Wtb1662kJy5jMb 72:3045...5e01 33:02a8...a449
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 d14cda6ac8...:0 1.49998 mk3brjBq66oZwTZZgeDEdCrbt3FAo5zV6Z DUP HASH160 20:31ac...b801 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 Not yet redeemed 3.5 n1kWmCrMx2kbEVS7opoqw7wydAdFQJvnqb DUP HASH160 20:ddf3...ab59 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/2d7609d9135573b85a0b41995b525fbca9fdddf4a057a0dad2a864f982a04b38#o1
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 9bc6060ab1...:0 187.829376 mgNVZ6Cmpd8S5RGSN34AP7iXWtPs1ofug2 71:3044...4101 33:03a6...87ab
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 54015432e5...:0 182.829376 muNZW6HV2tVyECaRVPSopGQ8VFbX7ezfGi DUP HASH160 20:97fb...ea84 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 961378a645...:0 4.99999 mie1xHHGxrQnainUPNn5Wtb1662kJy5jMb DUP HASH160 20:223e...f6b7 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG



keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/9bc6060ab1b5979f9bfd8a8a002308dc972fcd3ba0cd597ce6d6961c4130bf15#o0
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 d3268c04e7...:0 199.321159 miDpdLppTFoDxgmQzkz7DGQyYYrJ3D3SiZ 73:3046...a001 33:02d9...1cd3
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 2d7609d913...:0 187.829376 mgNVZ6Cmpd8S5RGSN34AP7iXWtPs1ofug2 DUP HASH160 20:095e...0e55 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 fc89f1b6e1...:0 11.491773 moRnEx9drbUXfzmpWUTj2woMkv1mSTbAYD DUP HASH160 20:56c6...f2b6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG


keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/d3268c04e7db225d5ce43903c35892d52309a52e60144e10cb52fdf097657627#o0
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 ad278c501a...:0 199.322308 mg7bbY6B1FRxqSk37fTGG2RLMgqCrE4opP 71:3044...4201 33:0367...d234
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 9bc6060ab1...:0 199.321159 miDpdLppTFoDxgmQzkz7DGQyYYrJ3D3SiZ DUP HASH160 20:1daa...90d1 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 17147e5865...:1 0.001139 mv2P458XzcCC6tnFPhKXJRWUTS9DtyWmPg DUP HASH160 20:9f22...d787 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG


keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/ad278c501a0439a2034e932e3bae2611da2c29e93c4be0f5a20618bb48c45e6d#o0
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 f892704a7b...:0 199.685859 mo6Metdg4mYAGJQWqWeo1YnwgNV2ekMUeh 72:3045...d301 33:0361...92cd
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 d3268c04e7...:0 199.322308 mg7bbY6B1FRxqSk37fTGG2RLMgqCrE4opP DUP HASH160 20:068d...3d6c EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 f2536b5d81...:2 0.363541 mv2P458XzcCC6tnFPhKXJRWUTS9DtyWmPg DUP HASH160 20:9f22...d787 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/f892704a7ba5e8b4c55158d73dbd1bca035491c0e9026d13f0551062379cdbf9#o0
Code:
Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 099acfd0e9...:1 200 mkDZQWd7aDMWWxwBDwSQ7eLqp1HQmXz4FL 72:3045...d801 33:0373...2595
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 ad278c501a...:0 199.685859 mo6Metdg4mYAGJQWqWeo1YnwgNV2ekMUeh DUP HASH160 20:531a...6167 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 f2536b5d81...:1 0.314131 mv2P458XzcCC6tnFPhKXJRWUTS9DtyWmPg DUP HASH160 20:9f22...d787 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG


keep
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/099acfd0e9fb0f13628439ac56f675904eb2ed7ee6f474ff215f3eced47b4599#o1
Code:
Appeared in XCTestnet 1532 (2014-05-30 18:16:50)
Number of inputs: 1 (Jump to inputs)
Total in: 1000
Number of outputs: 2 (Jump to outputs)
Total out: 999.99999
Size: 231 bytes
Fee: 0.00001

Inputs

Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig
0 365966042d...:1 1000 mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 73:3046...b301 33:026f...10a2
Outputs

Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey
0 d9b24d42f4...:0 799.99999 mho7xLLwk8B6hGTMbpkXvHNQ3HerZD7B3U DUP HASH160 20:18fe...4b7a EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1 f892704a7b...:0 200 mkDZQWd7aDMWWxwBDwSQ7eLqp1HQmXz4FL DUP HASH160 20:338e...30ac EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

Oh mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 popup.

mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 has nothing.
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 can send nothing.


Why search mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85 in video ??

hero member
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eidoo wallet
June 01, 2014, 03:55:45 AM
Now it's up.
Was everything in order?

More Random FUD

MrWhale,

Since you don't seem to have any understanding of what the term "trustless" means, I'll explain it to you. It's impossible to do trustless mixing with the way XC works.

It's obvious that it's just a normal mixer that was implemented in a decentralized way. So it must work like this:

1.) Your client connects to a mixer node
2.) Your client sends money to the mixer node, then asks it to send money to another address
3.) Your money gets deposited into the mixers pool of funds
4.) Then the miner sends out the money to the address you specified

The problem is the node doesn't have to send the money, then you've just lost the money you sent. What if I ran a node and messed with the code to collect money but not send any out?

Darksend is "trustless" because it requires signatures from everyone involved to make the transaction valid. There is no opportunity to lose money at any point during the process.


legendary
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June 01, 2014, 03:47:57 AM
Now it's up.
Was everything in order?
hero member
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eidoo wallet
May 31, 2014, 08:15:55 PM

Now it's up. I tried a few hours ago and just now(minutes ago) and it was down, loading continuously without showing the page.
hero member
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May 31, 2014, 08:11:24 PM

Yeah, our Sith-troll-botnet-puppeteers were on a tea break before, sorry about that. They're back on the case now. Wink
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eidoo wallet
May 31, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.
Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day. Grin

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.

That's possible too. Wink

 Shocked
hero member
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May 31, 2014, 08:00:12 PM
edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.
Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day. Grin

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.

That's possible too. Wink
hero member
Activity: 574
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May 31, 2014, 07:43:01 PM
edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.
Thank you - that's the best lol I've had all day. Grin

It's probably just interference from all the tinfoil you're wearing.
hero member
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Merit: 500
May 31, 2014, 07:29:24 PM
#XC Anon proof on testnet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

Testnet block explorer: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

TX from video: http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

edit* I bet it's getting ddos'd by drk trolls.  it was working perfectly before i started posting the links on threads.
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The Buck Stops Here.
May 31, 2014, 07:26:55 PM
XC testnet blockexplorer seems to be up again, for those interested: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

now the trolls are quiet because they can't think of anything else, than wrong code etc. this pretty much confirms the code is real.

Hey Phil, I already posted this in the self moderated thread but I'll post it here as well.
Can you provide the Transaction ID of the "anonymous" Youtube video transaction? Just want to check to make sure it coincides with the blockchain.

http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

Transaction from youtube video.

sent to address was:
msJQ   something.  you can see that in the video and I cannot find it in my wallet?  Smiley  I had to look at the video.


Sent from was:
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85



quick edit:  I have not had the opportunity to examine this in the block explorer, so let me know what is found.

^ see above

Thanks. Tried to mess around in the block explorer. It times out and displays "page cannot be displayed" error.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
May 31, 2014, 07:06:53 PM
XC testnet blockexplorer seems to be up again, for those interested: http://coincraft.info:2750/chain/XCTestnet

now the trolls are quiet because they can't think of anything else, than wrong code etc. this pretty much confirms the code is real.

Hey Phil, I already posted this in the self moderated thread but I'll post it here as well.
Can you provide the Transaction ID of the "anonymous" Youtube video transaction? Just want to check to make sure it coincides with the blockchain.

http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d

Transaction from youtube video.

sent to address was:
msJQ   something.  you can see that in the video and I cannot find it in my wallet?  Smiley  I had to look at the video.


Sent from was:
mmGYnBPXoypuc7GGpSd5QSW29SgLB1Xa85



quick edit:  I have not had the opportunity to examine this in the block explorer, so let me know what is found.

^ see above
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