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candl

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Quote from: MrWHALE on May 31, 2014, 06:29:54 PM

The testnet block explorer was up for hours and verified by comm members:
http://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26yubh/block_explorer_for_yesterdays_test/

The only reason it was taken down is because testing is now over for the new wallet release tomorrow.

So by reading the timestamps in the reddit thread, the block explorer was active for around an hour then taken down? Hard to verify anything within an hour. What's the use of it if it was just active for an hour or perhaps not even up at all since everyone complains in that thread that it didn't work.

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Quote from: Propulsion on May 31, 2014, 06:24:53 PM

Quote from: MrWHALE on May 31, 2014, 06:21:49 PM

Just trying to be an upstanding citizen by organizing some relevant information for investors who want to know the truth:

DRK's method of coinjoin does not nor will not ever bring 100% truly anonymous transfers.
Proof: "Why CoinJoin, as Used in DarkCoin,does NOT bring Full Anonymity"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

Does this same proof apply to XC as well? The short answer: No, this does not apply to XC because XC uses a unique multi-path solution and NOT coinjoin.

Does XC's anon function even work? Yes!
Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

All I want is investors to make the most informed decisions when investing their money. Why invest in DRK when Evan himself says the anon feature is not complete nor did he ever promise 100% anon transfers? See proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7060893

Spend your money wisely folks. Everything written here is true, but don't take my word for it, do your own research.

This is completely wrong. XC is a coin gen clone from loljosh.
XC can not even provide a testnet block explorer for there supposed "anonymity". Instead they literally spam "Look at this video. It works!"

No, you're completely wrong. And quit it with the straw-man loljosh FUD.

The testnet block explorer was up for hours and verified by comm members:
http://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26yubh/block_explorer_for_yesterdays_test/

The only reason it was taken down is because testing is now over for the new wallet release tomorrow.

Propulsion

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The Buck Stops Here.

Quote from: MrWHALE on May 31, 2014, 06:21:49 PM

Just trying to be an upstanding citizen by organizing some relevant information for investors who want to know the truth:

DRK's method of coinjoin does not nor will not ever bring 100% truly anonymous transfers.
Proof: "Why CoinJoin, as Used in DarkCoin,does NOT bring Full Anonymity"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

Does this same proof apply to XC as well? The short answer: No, this does not apply to XC because XC uses a unique multi-path solution and NOT coinjoin.

Does XC's anon function even work? Yes!
Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

All I want is investors to make the most informed decisions when investing their money. Why invest in DRK when Evan himself says the anon feature is not complete nor did he ever promise 100% anon transfers? See proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7060893

Spend your money wisely folks. Everything written here is true, but don't take my word for it, do your own research.

This is completely wrong. XC is a coin gen clone from loljosh.
XC can not even provide a testnet block explorer for there supposed "anonymity". Instead they literally spam "Look at this video. It works!"

Joshuar

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eidoo wallet

XC was made by loljosh(who is paid to make alt coins for BTC), which means atsecure(XC "dev") can't code himself, he pays loljosh to do everything for him. Similar to coingen.io

Pic #1(atsecure leaves loljosh a positive comment for great service, the amount of BTC risked/paid is .7

Pic #2(loljosh lists the price of .8 for x11+PoS, which is relatively the same price atsecure paid loljosh when he left him the positive comment, The day after XC was released..

Conclusion: XC was made by loljosh for .7/.8 BTC from atsecure. It's just another clone/copy coin.

MrWHALE

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Just trying to be an upstanding citizen by organizing some relevant information for investors who want to know the truth:

DRK's method of coinjoin does not nor will not ever bring 100% truly anonymous transfers.
Proof: "Why CoinJoin, as Used in DarkCoin,does NOT bring Full Anonymity"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

Does this same proof apply to XC as well? The short answer: No, this does not apply to XC because XC uses a unique multi-path solution and NOT coinjoin.

Does XC's anon function even work? Yes!
Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uTgnZAFuNU&feature=youtu.be

All I want is investors to make the most informed decisions when investing their money. Why invest in DRK when Evan himself says the anon feature is not complete nor did he ever promise 100% anon transfers? See proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7060893

Spend your money wisely folks. Everything written here is true, but don't take my word for it, do your own research.

roede94105

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Anyone able to observe yesterday's testnet XC test?

here's the explorer

Quote from: ?? on ??

Testnet block explorer from user terse-helper
http://www.reddit.com/r/XCofficialreddit/comments/26yubh/block_explorer_for_yesterdays_test/

http://192.241.217.93:2750/chain/XCTestnet

megges

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so after the insane xc hashrate came up again in the xc topic here some thoughts about it:

- an hashrate that high has never been seen in any other x11 alt (so there are no asics, fpgas or ... - else we would have seen this hashrates at other x11 coins after xc changed to pos)
- nobody could tell us where the hashrate was, all the posted pools together in xc have had a fractal of the hashrate which seems the network has had.
- for example there are exploits for kgw to increase the difficulty/hashrate, my guess is we had something like this with xc, too ...

so whats about an blockchain analyse of xc for the highhash time, there should be ips, which relayed these blocks.

If these hashrates were real, there must be many blocks which got relayed by ips which were not connected to any pools posted, right?

But because the current xc blockexplorer don't log the relayed ip, i guess its to late for such an anlysis, am i right? or is there any source to check this out?

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Anyone have a link to the block explorer they were supposed to release for the testnet?

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Quote from: illodin on May 31, 2014, 09:59:38 AM

Many traders will treat it purely as a money making speculative tool, and they know they can get out before the general credulous population, so for them, fundamentals don't matter.

I think that train has left the station at this point as you can see from the stagnating price. There's enough doubt at this point I think.

As for the "anonymous" Xnode stuff, I'm convinced it's fluff. Of course there's no way to prove it, but that's the point.

I almost think Dan Metcalf's linkedin is a well made fake. One thing I noticed is that all of the people who back his credentials are from totally unrelated industries. The main guy that seems to back him could also be a fake. I was reading up on linkedin and there are circles for that sort of thing. It is an issue on the linkedin network.

Finally if atcsecure really is Dan Metcalf and he is really doing what he says he's doing, he's doing a great job of looking really suspicious to savvy traders.

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Many traders will treat it purely as a money making speculative tool, and they know they can get out before the general credulous population, so for them, fundamentals don't matter.

AlexGR

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There's too much investing going on with people ignorant to evaluate the claims. That's a HUGE problem.

These are not country coins and meme coins where people threw money in the hope of emulating Aurora and DOGE. This is technology and one should be adequately qualified to assess it as such otherwise it's just gambling.

One hears "oh darkcoin is this, that" or "monero this and that" or "xc this and that" and they understand nothing in terms of technical features. People can literally throw in million of dollars by deceiving them that you have a certain technology that you don't really have. It's unsettling. No wonder why Libertycoin wanted "just a basic type of DarkSend" to show for and get the money.

All it takes is the "anonymous" claim and some "demo" that convinces the unqualified-to-determine-the-truth and then the money stream starts arriving. Lol?

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Quote from: adhitthana on May 31, 2014, 03:02:09 AM

This thread is funny. Here we are at the cutting edge of a system, a technology and knowledge that could benefit all of mankind, yet we find these childish arguments.
Lets look at the big picture

Let's just look at the evidence instead, and dispense with the grandiose claims. Healthy skepticism is hardly childish when it comes to investing money.

adhitthana

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This thread is funny. Here we are at the cutting edge of a system, a technology and knowledge that could benefit all of mankind, yet we find these childish arguments.
Lets look at the big picture

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Quote from: coins101 on May 29, 2014, 07:11:39 PM

If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. I have been known to be wrong.

WEll as somemone who hold s both coins, I could not see many facts in your post....can you maybe tell us the facts about the situation and link to sources? thnx

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Quote from: AlexGR on May 30, 2014, 09:13:21 PM

Quote from: TsuyokuNaritai on May 30, 2014, 06:25:58 PM

Comments on the video demo?

Quote from: evtrmm on May 30, 2014, 05:55:10 PM

PROOF.
http://youtu.be/_uTgnZAFuNU

hopefully this explains enough.

This is like watching a video with coils that says "ok this is free energy guys" and the battery is hidden somewhere with a tape.

"This is anonymity guys - the address isn't there!!!"

Anonymity is not the part where your money is sent to the mixer. It's about the entire money flow not being pinpointed from sender to recipient.

I agree 100%. I hate that I can't comment on this stuff. I am not trying to FUD or troll or anything. Any of these skepticisms are totally reasonable for investors to ask, but now I feel like we'll be censored for just talking about it in their moderated thread. It is creepy in there, a bunch of yes men. It seems to me they are trying to hide the fact that it doesn't work as advertised. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I'd rather be proven wrong than lose a bunch of money on another scam.

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Quote from: TsuyokuNaritai on May 30, 2014, 06:25:58 PM

Comments on the video demo?

Quote from: evtrmm on May 30, 2014, 05:55:10 PM

PROOF.
http://youtu.be/_uTgnZAFuNU

hopefully this explains enough.

This is like watching a video with coils that says "ok this is free energy guys" and the battery is hidden somewhere with a tape.

"This is anonymity guys - the address isn't there!!!"

Anonymity is not the part where your money is sent to the mixer. It's about the entire money flow not being pinpointed from sender to recipient.

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Quote from: TsuyokuNaritai on May 30, 2014, 06:25:58 PM

Comments on the video demo?

Quote from: evtrmm on May 30, 2014, 05:55:10 PM

PROOF.
http://youtu.be/_uTgnZAFuNU

hopefully this explains enough.

well.. not sure what this means exactly. But i followed the same steps in the release wallet for a transaction i sent to MP that he did for
checking the anon feature. i copied the gettransaction output from my TXid and pasted it into notepad and searched for
my address (theres only one on the wallet) and i couldn't find it in mine either.

What that means, i dont know. But this was on the live blockchain, the transaction shows in the block explorer but "gettransaction" output
does not show my wallet addy

...

I really have no idea.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Anyone?

Believe it or not, but I am quite compassionate person (at least compared to some of the narcissist running rampant in these forums), and I fear this will end in tears.

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Comments on the video demo?

Quote from: evtrmm on May 30, 2014, 05:55:10 PM

PROOF.
http://youtu.be/_uTgnZAFuNU

hopefully this explains enough.

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I hold both coin and I always thought of them as the perfect brother, one PoW and one PoS ......

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