Topic: unnecessarily quoting by members of the forum. (Read 559 times)
I join the chorus to say that seeing posts that quotes very long comments can be quite annoying, you'd see like four or five lines of comment accompanying under the very long quote, it's very unnecessary to do that. Just do the right thing and put in the work by deleting sentences and paragraphs that are not needed in what you require from the quote, it'll make the post to look better and other members can relate better with the connection of quote and comment. I used to make that mistake too until I was corrected and I saw the sense in it, now I just quote only the specific areas that I need to connect to. I even get bored now when I see very long posts, some are unnecessarily long.
This unnecessary quotes is very unprofessional though there are times when before an information can be passed, one have to make reference to the response of various individuals but some users here doesn't really understand the mode of quoting someone as if you actually they want to quote a particular reply, it's just to edit it and quote directly rather than giving references from the first person that started the quote.
I see it that some persons just feel so reluctant and lazy to edit a post and possibly quote a particular one they needed to quote which is a very bad habit, you see some users quoting about 10 replies at same time which makes them looks irrelevant and most users will rather skip such a reply rather than try to inculcate the information that the user tends to pass to readers.
I see it that some persons just feel so reluctant and lazy to edit a post and possibly quote a particular one they needed to quote which is a very bad habit, you see some users quoting about 10 replies at same time which makes them looks irrelevant and most users will rather skip such a reply rather than try to inculcate the information that the user tends to pass to readers.
To me I just thought op you would at least cover or blank the usernames of those persons you used as example in the image of your op. I don't know how they will feel seeing their username there clearly bare but for me I will feel bad reason been that am ain't the only one in the forum that have done that pattern of quoting, a thousand of posters have done that and come to think of it am not sure it's against forum rules either. Nevertheless, moving forward it will be great to have users both newbies and old users learn to be specific in their quoting where necessary.
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Yes you are right, you can only see post like thing in the gambling section of the football thread. I think the reason for such quote like this is because the gambling section we have thread that anyone can just come up with a particular topic or sport news. If the the news is an interesting their will be a lot of quotes because the discussion is an interesting one and many people just want to add their contribution about the discussion. It is only in the gambling section you can see quote like this and I don't really blame people for this because gambling discussion is a very interesting one that many people would want to contribute on discussion for a very longtime. Despite that the gambling section is an interesting place for sport discussions, people should learn how to quote one after the other to make it easy for people to understand and for the sake of to make quoting look good.
People who do this probably do not see it as a problem or are too lazy to quote properly. This quoting pattern is common in football threads, it kind of makes it difficult for readers to know who exactly you’re responding to in your post. Is it the user in quote 1,2,3 or 4? It’s even worse if there is a large image in any of the quoted posts.
I don’t think it’s necessary to quote the OP if your post is in the first 5 pages of the thread. Unless you’re responding to a particular line in the OP. I usually do not read lengthy posts, so when I see someone who’s quoted a wall of text, I tend to skip that post. So even if the comment has value, it receives little recognition because the posting pattern is unpleasant to look at.
Yes you are right, you can only see post like this in the gambling section of the football thread. I think the reason for such quote like this is because the gambling section we have thread that anyone can just come up with a particular topic or sport news. If the the news is an interesting their will be a lot of quotes because the discussion is an interesting one and many people just want to add their contribution about the discussion. It is only in the gambling section you can see quote like this and I don't really blame people for this because gambling discussion is a very interesting one that many people would want to contribute on discussion for a very longtime. I don’t think it’s necessary to quote the OP if your post is in the first 5 pages of the thread. Unless you’re responding to a particular line in the OP. I usually do not read lengthy posts, so when I see someone who’s quoted a wall of text, I tend to skip that post. So even if the comment has value, it receives little recognition because the posting pattern is unpleasant to look at.
Despite that the gambling section is an interesting place for sport discussions, people should learn how to quote one after the other to make it easy for people to understand and for the sake of to make quoting look good.
Most bounty hunters submit their weekly tasks like this. Although it is not against the rules of the forum. But nowadays bounty managers have brought many changes in the work. For example, if a hunter quotes a week's work with a new week's work, he is not given a weekly reward.
I have only come across this type of replies in megathreads, mostly in gambling and speculation. If a person has to make this type of comment, they likely did it for a reason. There are some conversations where you have to go back to where it all started before you can understand what is being discussed. Most people do this so that anyone who enters a discussion can quickly read and understand where it all began. I don't expect a random person to jump into any argument or discussion without knowing the reasons.
I agree with you on this. Maybe the op is perturbed that some members are lazy enough to clip off some quotes that are not needed but this often happens in the gambling section and it's not something that can be helped. Some feel that as they've been quoted by someone and another says the same thing that the first quoter said, it would make sense to add all.Don't lose sleep over this, Op. There's bound to be users who don't learn as you do and I'm sure this kind of thing has been complained before. Maybe you could quietly PM the user to at least make his work near or you when trying to quote, you do the right thing..
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If might have been this topic here, though the idea seems to have been to reach 21M images …:Let's Count to 21 Million with Images
Of course half of the images are no longer visible straight off, and there’s no way people are going to go back to a 2012..2015 thread to fix them (nor can they all technically), though this is a different matter altogether.
Most likely they are mobile users who are too lazy to edit the part they want to bring into the discussion, just go on and quote the whole unnecessary discussions and it is a sign of spam too in my opinion but as far as I know, these nested quotes are not against the forum rules so they won't be deleted even if we report them but if the campaign managers pay attention then those users with low-quality posts can be denied towards paid post then we will see the changes in their actions.
Indeed, I believe that some people also make these kinds of quotes out of laziness; this is especially true for new members as I doubt long-time members will make such a comment. If someone claims they don't know how to quote someone appropriately, I will ask them what they are doing on the forum. The first thing new members should learn on the forum is how to reply to other members or quote well-written posts. While I acknowledge that mistakes are inevitable, it's sometimes a good idea to double-check your quoting style because there may be individuals who take offence at the way you took their words.
It's called pyramid quoting. Its very common for newbies. Even me, lol. I used to but I don't now. I don't see this much in the global section. But you'll find it widely on local sections. If you wanna reply cleanly to multiple person you should follow a basic rule. For example, I'll show below.
And so on.... I think this is the right format to reply multiple person in one single comment.
Quote
Person1=hello, I am newbie.
Welcome to bitcointalk newbie.Quote
Person2=hello, good morning.
Good morning user.Quote
Person3=Are you fine, sir?
Yes I am.And so on.... I think this is the right format to reply multiple person in one single comment.
This is a really good example; in my opinion, it's another easy way to quote multiple people, and the people you quote will appreciate it when they see how you quote them. A lot of people find it hard to quote others, so they don't want to ask questions. I don't feel shy or embarrassed to ask questions I don't understand; I believe that some people on forums are affected by the idea that asking questions will make them look foolish, even though forums are a place where you are free to ask any questions you may have.
Posts with huge pictures make it hard to navigate the topic too.
Were you around for the "Count to 1,000,000 using images!" thread? Those were good times....
I can't remember how far we got.
Honestly, I haven't come across such a topic. I'd like to take a look at it. Is the title exactly as you wrote it? Cause I couldn't find anything under that title. Can you give me a link or is it not on the forum anymore?
Some do it out of sheer ignorance because they don't understand that quoted posts can be edited very easily, and some others still think that their posts look better that way.
There's another reason, and that's when replying to someone who misquoted on a mobile phone as it can be a pain in the ass to delete all those unecessary replies while its like a 5 secs job on a PC. More than once I deleted everything by mistake several times in a row while replying in sucj situations, just to give up in the end, while some probably won't bother with it and will leave it as it is. I have never used the forum in that way, so I cannot say how difficult it would be for me personally to edit posts, but for those who exclusively use smartphones for their use of the forum, in that case it would be better not to use the quote option at all, but to just write the name of the member they correspond to.
What is especially irritating is when you see that someone on page 15 of the topic quotes the entire OP and writes two or three sentences that actually have nothing to do with what was quoted. This is definitely the shitposter category I mentioned and anyone who sees it should react and use the "report to moderator" button.
As far as I know, Pyramid Quotes are not banned on forums as long as the reply is still relevant, but it doesn't look beautiful maybe doing long Pyramid Quotes like that.
Whether an overquoting is relevant or not, it's still not welcome on the forum. And it is clearly stated in the forum rules. Such posts, which contain a pyramid of quotes, fall under point 1 of the forum rules. Please read carefully the note to point 1 of the forum rules.
1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.
why not create a thread on how to quote then? I haven't searched if there's one already though.
There are already such topics, no need to create new ones. If you look at the first post of this topic, there are links to these topics.
you can as well read in these few thread that have been created to teach members, on how to quote properly. let's all learn the right thing today and act in an organized manner.
[Tips] Posting technique
[TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)
[Tips] Posting technique
[TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies)
I've seen this things happen mostly in the gambling section - an OP would quote as much post as possible just to type a single line of word..
Sometimes, Pictorial descriptions made by newbies are not visible since they can't post pictures - them OPs would do nothing more than just quoting the whole text repeatedly with Thier own solutions to whatever the problem was, instead of quoting the desired part...
maybe this thread would go along way in addressing this issue - why not create a thread on how to quote then? I haven't searched if there's one already though.
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Sometimes, Pictorial descriptions made by newbies are not visible since they can't post pictures - them OPs would do nothing more than just quoting the whole text repeatedly with Thier own solutions to whatever the problem was, instead of quoting the desired part...
maybe this thread would go along way in addressing this issue - why not create a thread on how to quote then? I haven't searched if there's one already though.
Sandra 🧑🦰
I have only come across this type of replies in megathreads, mostly in gambling and speculation. If a person has to make this type of comment, they likely did it for a reason. There are some conversations where you have to go back to where it all started before you can understand what is being discussed. Most people do this so that anyone who enters a discussion can quickly read and understand where it all began. I don't expect a random person to jump into any argument or discussion without knowing the reasons.
Yes, actually that's the fact, and people not understand that some quoting arises from the way that conversation flows. And it's not that some people are lazy or lack common sense, but rather that this is how some debate flows and how people respond to each other. I don't know why most people will point the finger at beginners; some seem to believe that biginners are the ones that quote like that most of the time. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with that because that kind of quotation is common in talks about gambling.
Since joining this forum, I've always been keen on learning new things from the more experienced members. This approach has taken me a long way. learning from them the right way on how to navigate the forum.
Along the way, I've noticed that some members might not be learning the correct way to do various activities on the forum, particularly when it comes to quoting. Some members struggle to understand the proper way to quote, often making the mistake of quoting the wrong person. The forum's quote button is designed to mention the specific member you've added to your quote. I've come across many discussions on how to quote properly to avoid mistakes like this.
Everyone will definitely learn from experience and the intention to develop in the forum must be accompanied by good and correct knowledge. That is one possibility for people who use cellphones when replying to posts and another possibility is that those who use PCs also do the same thing. As far as I know, Pyramid Quotes are not banned on forums as long as the reply is still relevant, but it doesn't look beautiful maybe doing long Pyramid Quotes like that.Along the way, I've noticed that some members might not be learning the correct way to do various activities on the forum, particularly when it comes to quoting. Some members struggle to understand the proper way to quote, often making the mistake of quoting the wrong person. The forum's quote button is designed to mention the specific member you've added to your quote. I've come across many discussions on how to quote properly to avoid mistakes like this.
I'm sure this is more often done by beginners because they are not yet familiar with how to quote more precisely for the post they want to reply to. Maybe it's also because people like this are too lazy to delete the first few posts to reply to the post they just wanted. For me quotes like that don't matter, but it will be much neater if you delete it first and reply according to what you want to comment on so that it is neater and more beautiful to look at.
Some members struggle to understand the proper way to quote, often making the mistake of quoting the wrong person. The forum's quote button is designed to mention the specific member you've added to your quote.
Pyramid quoting is lengthy and clutters the thread, making the topic a bit hard to follow due to poor readability caused by this bad etiquette. The proper way is to quote only the relevant portions of the posts to maintain the clarity and overall readability of the thread. I personally find these pyramid quotes annoying, and I'm quite sure most members here find them annoying too.
Many beginners do such useless quotes. It looks very messy and not neatly organized. If you want to give a response, it's better to just do one quote. Doing so with all these quotes just makes it even more confusing. I always cut and delete quotes that are not really necessary to keep it neat and the purpose of the quote is achieved.
People that post in gambling section of the forum are used to that type of post. What I do not understand is the reason they make such pyramid quotes even when they aren't replying to every post in the quote.One thing I have thought would be the reason they quote in such a manner is to make their post appear long and quality even when it is not. Apart from that I see no other reason.
Before I deactivated my telegram, that used to be a problem when I post in the gambling discussion. I would keep getting endless notifications even when the conversation no longer concerns me.
It has become a habit in the forum. Not only the newbies but even old members. Some people who are older member here are soposed to correct the newbies about it. but it seams to me that they don't Care after all I get paid per Post, who will question me? But the habit makes people feel uncomfortable to read through the comment they've posted. That's why most old members are stagnant, because they fail to learn. Sometimes when I see people's activities, they are over 1200 and 20 merits. I ask myself what has this people been doing? Are they not participating in serious conversation? or they don't contribute meaningfuly? But looking at things now I think these are the things that made many people not to grow. And dey end up monitoring whious growing faster and looking towards shuting down people's account.
Another thing is that if you're a newbie and don't Know how to quote, it will make you appear being like a plagiarist, you will often mixed up your own post with the one you're quoting wrongly, another annoying fact about quoting is when one is not being specific on which exact aspect of the post content are they quoting or talking about, we need to read and learn to quote each aspect of concerns differently for easy understanding by the readers.
Many beginners do such useless quotes. It looks very messy and not neatly organized. If you want to give a response, it's better to just do one quote. Doing so with all these quotes just makes it even more confusing. I always cut and delete quotes that are not really necessary to keep it neat and the purpose of the quote is achieved.
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