Posts with huge pictures make it hard to navigate the topic too.
Were you around for the "Count to 1,000,000 using images!" thread? Those were good times....
I can't remember how far we got.
Topic: unnecessarily quoting by members of the forum. - page 2. (Read 594 times)
Were you around for the "Count to 1,000,000 using images!" thread? Those were good times....
I can't remember how far we got.
Sometimes what causes wrong quoting of post is inability of cross checking what you have quoted before posting...
Sorry, it doesn't take much intelligence and knowledge to click the preview button in the form for writing a post. Even the absolute beginner can do it.
...its obvious and self explanatory that a high rank forum members who have stayed in the forum more than two years can not quote wrongly consistently and if you observe such a thing for a high rank forum members that means it's a bought account.
I don't agree. It is far from certain that high rank accounts that have abused overquoting are purchased accounts.
Sometimes what causes wrong quoting of post is inability of cross checking what you have quoted before posting, sometimes people that make such mistakes doesn't do it intentionally, so therefore I believe that people who quote do it for personal reasons, so I believe that is one of the things that contribute for wrong quoting of a post, at times newbie who joined forum newly who doesn't know exactly the genesis of forum can quote wrongly because they are not informed of the system of the forum, its obvious and self explanatory that a high rank forum members who have stayed in the forum more than two years can not quote wrongly consistently and if you observe such a thing for a high rank forum members that means it's a bought account.
People who do this probably do not see it as a problem or are too lazy to quote properly. This quoting pattern is common in football threads, it kind of makes it difficult for readers to know who exactly you’re responding to in your post. Is it the user in quote 1,2,3 or 4? It’s even worse if there is a large image in any of the quoted posts.
I don’t think it’s necessary to quote the OP if your post is in the first 5 pages of the thread. Unless you’re responding to a particular line in the OP. I usually do not read lengthy posts, so when I see someone who’s quoted a wall of text, I tend to skip that post. So even if the comment has value, it receives little recognition because the posting pattern is unpleasant to look at.
I don’t think it’s necessary to quote the OP if your post is in the first 5 pages of the thread. Unless you’re responding to a particular line in the OP. I usually do not read lengthy posts, so when I see someone who’s quoted a wall of text, I tend to skip that post. So even if the comment has value, it receives little recognition because the posting pattern is unpleasant to look at.
Some members struggle to understand the proper way to quote, often making the mistake of quoting the wrong person. The forum's quote button is designed to mention the specific member you've added to your quote.
Pyramid quoting is lengthy and clutters the thread, making the topic a bit hard to follow due to poor readability caused by this bad etiquette. The proper way is to quote only the relevant portions of the posts to maintain the clarity and overall readability of the thread. I personally find these pyramid quotes annoying, and I'm quite sure most members here find them annoying too. 
Most likely they are mobile users who are too lazy to edit the part they want to bring into the discussion, just go on and quote the whole unnecessary discussions and it is a sign of spam too in my opinion but as far as I know, these nested quotes are not against the forum rules so they won't be deleted even if we report them but if the campaign managers pay attention then those users with low-quality posts can be denied towards paid post then we will see the changes in their actions.
Same thought here, these people are maybe posting on their mobile phones and we know that it is very annoying to edit things in mobile phone but I do not think that is an excuse to just qoute everything and reply creating a pyramid quote. It does not only deteriorate the quality of the reply, it is also a sore in the eye if we look at it.
Spammers don't know how to quote a line where they need a specific answer or discussion.
I do not think they don't know how to edit quote but I believe they are too lazy to edit the post so that is shows the line they wanted to give a reply with and sadly there are still high-ranking members who are too lazy to edit and give answers to specific lines.
This has been discussed on the forum many times. But I regret to see that users are not learning. Especially those who joined for earning from the forum, they really don't care about this kind of stuff. Pyramid quotes look spammy throughout the whole thread. Spammers don't know how to quote a line where they need a specific answer or discussion. Pyramid quote discourages reading the reply.
For those using the Telegram bot, this can be annoying when you're mentioned unnecessarily, and keep getting notifications even if you're not involved in the current discussion. I personally urge all members, not just the newbies but also those who are guilty of this, to stop and learn the proper way to quote a post.
Honestly, I am among those bothered by this because these notifications come to me through the SuperNotifier bot due to many pyramid quotes. When I check one of these notifications, I find that my account and many members not intended within these quotes have been mentioned. Afterward, I ask myself, to whom is this person addressing his post, which includes all these quotes? Therefore, his contribution became worthless and may even become spam and off-topic. Therefore, this topic is good for beginners or anyone still unknowingly engaging in these annoying quotes. We all started as beginners and made mistakes when joining the forum. However, learning from mistakes enhances the quality of posts and makes members understand forum posts. Yeah, I agree with you. Posts with huge pictures make it hard to navigate the topic too. This is most likely because few people know the BB code to control the size of the picture or just because they are too lazy to edit the link to the picture.
I must admit that I also posted big images several times. Resizing image with bbcode when you're on mobile is damn difficult. Usually I struggle until I find right numbers in code that image would look appropriate.In my opinion, adding one word to the "image" tag, adding an equals sign and entering a number is not that hard even on a smartphone. If only there was a desire, as they say
It's not like editing a post with a lot of quotes. Although I do both quite often on a smartphone with a 6.9 inch screen size.Here, for example, are a couple of posts I edited on a smartphone - first and second. In the second post I have also had to insert a table as well.
But you know what is worse than large images? Huge images included in pyramid quotes...
Well, you are already describing an extreme situation
Yeah, I agree with you. Posts with huge pictures make it hard to navigate the topic too. This is most likely because few people know the BB code to control the size of the picture or just because they are too lazy to edit the link to the picture.
I must admit that I also posted big images several times. Resizing image with bbcode when you're on mobile is damn difficult. Usually I struggle until I find right numbers in code that image would look appropriate.But you know what is worse than large images? Huge images included in pyramid quotes...
Since joining this forum, I've always been keen on learning new things from the more experienced members. This approach has taken me a long way. learning from them the right way on how to navigate the forum.
Along the way, I've noticed that some members might not be learning the correct way to do various activities on the forum, particularly when it comes to quoting. Some members struggle to understand the proper way to quote, often making the mistake of quoting the wrong person. The forum's quote button is designed to mention the specific member you've added to your quote. I've come across many discussions on how to quote properly to avoid mistakes like this.
This is one of the earliest mistakes and most common mistakes that most users without a forum experience make in their earlier days on the forum. It is a conscious unconscious mistake that requires serious effort to avoid. And as you get better or older on the forum you divert to other quoting formats such as "~snip~", <...>. These are the commonest variants that I have seen. Another common mistake is quote without removing the picture or pictures from the quote. Along the way, I've noticed that some members might not be learning the correct way to do various activities on the forum, particularly when it comes to quoting. Some members struggle to understand the proper way to quote, often making the mistake of quoting the wrong person. The forum's quote button is designed to mention the specific member you've added to your quote. I've come across many discussions on how to quote properly to avoid mistakes like this.
I completely agree with you! Quoting is similar to speaking back, but with words. But, hey, let's talk about the picture-quote overload, serious eye strain, right? It's like a never-ending quote parade. In addition to posting 101, include some images and clean links. It makes the topic easier to read, and no one has to squint at a really long link. Keep everything neat and show some appreciation for the visual appeal. It would make people stay to read and even reply.
Yeah, I agree with you. Posts with huge pictures make it hard to navigate the topic too. This is most likely because few people know the BB code to control the size of the picture or just because they are too lazy to edit the link to the picture.
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This counts as unnecessary quoting which the OP is talking about.So yes, I have been there. It's not always about laziness, something it may be the difficulty that makes them not editing additional quotes. It term of computer, its much much easy to copy, paste, edit, delete and repeat.
I have been there too. I use mobile every now and again when I am on the road. The forum is not mobile friendly but anyone who does not want to quote excessively will only be taking out a little of their time to trim down quotes. Worth the effort to keep a thread readable.- Jay -
Most likely they are mobile users who are too lazy to edit the part they want to bring into the discussion,
I disagree that mobile users make up the majority of pyramid posts because, as someone who uses a phone for posting, I too am aware that pyramid posting is not ideal and I don't quote every single thread that someone posts. Mobile users who know how to quote properly are not lazy to trim their quotes. . As a mobile user myself, I know how it feels to use bitcointalk on a mobile. Man!!! It's not mobile friendly. Even making a simple post is hard enough let along trimming unnecessary quotes. You cannot navigate the forum without zooming in or out, unless you use third party scripts or extension to make the pages resizable. So yes, I have been there. It's not always about laziness, something it may be the difficulty that makes them not editing additional quotes. It term of computer, its much much easy to copy, paste, edit, delete and repeat. But yes, if you talk about gambling section, there is no doubt's about what you said is 100% true. Most of these pyramid is in gambling and locals, where rules aren't followed that much.
Users who're in this section most likely will not use pyramid quoting, in gambling board the moderation is low than here. So your message can't be delivered to them except you remind them in section where they mostly post.
Some people that responded in this topic didn't properly quote so its not a bad idea to remind members every once in a while about importance of a proper quoting and avoiding pyramid quotes.Some do it out of sheer ignorance because they don't understand that quoted posts can be edited very easily, and some others still think that their posts look better that way.
There's another reason, and that's when replying to someone who misquoted on a mobile phone as it can be a pain in the ass to delete all those unecessary replies while its like a 5 secs job on a PC. More than once I deleted everything by mistake several times in a row while replying in sucj situations, just to give up in the end, while some probably won't bother with it and will leave it as it is. 
I seriously didn't like it as it is just wasting time for the person who is going to scroll down and if he wants to get to its own message then it takes much time which is not good. Secondly I personally didn't want to do it because the messages that are quotes should be only that messages which are according to the use and which we we want to give reply and answer.
Mostly the newbie do that and the users mostly which are not aware of it are doing this type of mistakes. Although I hope the users who are seeing this should be very careful about it next time.
Mostly the newbie do that and the users mostly which are not aware of it are doing this type of mistakes. Although I hope the users who are seeing this should be very careful about it next time.
Most likely they are mobile users who are too lazy to edit the part they want to bring into the discussion,
I disagree that mobile users make up the majority of pyramid posts because, as someone who uses a phone for posting, I too am aware that pyramid posting is not ideal and I don't quote every single thread that someone posts. Mobile users who know how to quote properly are not lazy to trim their quotes. I am not saying most mobile users are practicing this pyramid quoting style, but those who do are mostly mobile users and they feel lazy to edit the content and just go one and continue to edit the whole. Even I do use mobile for bitcointalk and sometimes I have to comment on something, when I have to I will try to edit as much as possible or just clear the whole and stay on topic or if I want to respond to the previous ones reply I just use ^ kind of symbol and like that.
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unnecessarily quoting by members of the forum.
A lot of members on the forum use the quote option completely unnecessarily or in an inappropriate way, without realizing how ugly their posts look from an aesthetic point of view. Some do it out of sheer ignorance because they don't understand that quoted posts can be edited very easily, and some others still think that their posts look better that way. Even in this topic, some use quotes completely unnecessarily, and what is even more tragic, they try to teach someone something about it.
@Renampun, @sokani, @DubemIfedigbo001 - do you think it makes any sense that you quoted the OP and did exactly what the OP is warning you about?
By the way, posts in which the quote option is used inappropriately can be reported to the moderators, and most of the posts that I reported were deleted.
Along the way, I've noticed that some members might not be learning the correct way to do various activities on the forum, particularly when it comes to quoting. Some members struggle to understand the proper way to quote, often making the mistake of quoting the wrong person.
But... they're not post in this section, so the chance for them to read your post is low.
Users who're in this section most likely will not use pyramid quoting, in gambling board the moderation is low than here. So your message can't be delivered to them except you remind them in section where they mostly post.
After all they're participate in a campaign where they have an opportunity to get paid for +100 posts, it's not surprising.
Users who're in this section most likely will not use pyramid quoting, in gambling board the moderation is low than here. So your message can't be delivered to them except you remind them in section where they mostly post.
After all they're participate in a campaign where they have an opportunity to get paid for +100 posts, it's not surprising.
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