Topic: unnecessarily quoting by members of the forum. - page 3. (Read 594 times)

Yeah, your are quite right I've seen some posts that if the first person that started the discussion is not referenced then the content of the information might not completely make any meaning. It is important for users to calm down and read carefully before quoting someone in other to know the kind of information the user is passing because if the conversation is being bridged then the reader may find it difficult to comprehend the content of the write up.

Not only mobile users but I think this is due to laziness. I'm a mobile user so I don't post using quotes like this most of the time. Such posts look very awkward and nasty. I've seen in some cases even posts with lots of quotes from big legends. Only posts to which we reply should be quoted  OP brings up a very good point here OP I always applaud this discussion. I think every new member can learn something good from here. And those of us who post out of such laziness won't post anymore because our posts will look so much better.

Well Im a mobile users and dont do like this, aside from be in gn an eyesore people quoting like this are really lazy enough imagine how many layers of that would be seen. I think we bettet educate newbies about how to quote properly or at least they been aware of how to do it. Its not its prohibited but a healthy discussion is also good if seen easily and not cramped like this one.

I am not saying most mobile users are practicing this pyramid quoting style, but those who do are mostly mobile users and they feel lazy to edit the content and just go one and continue to edit the whole. Even I do use mobile for bitcointalk and sometimes I have to comment on something, when I have to I will try to edit as much as possible or just clear the whole and stay on topic or if I want to respond to the previous ones reply I just use ^ kind of symbol and like that.

well said OP, I don't attend to contributions like this because its very difficult to decipher what the person is replying to and who he's referring to. For me, its just stressful to engage  and when I see such in a thread, I just skip it and continue reading other contributions cos I'm allergic to cognitive friction.

Many thanks for this piece, I've not come across it before and I'll consume it for better understanding.

I completely agree with you! Quoting is similar to speaking back, but with words. But, hey, let's talk about the picture-quote overload, serious eye strain, right? It's like a never-ending quote parade. In addition to posting 101, include some images and clean links. It makes the topic easier to read, and no one has to squint at a really long link. Keep everything neat and show some appreciation for the visual appeal. It would make people stay to read and even reply.

These types of pyramid quotes you will usually find in gambling related sections where they are making posts in a such a manner but it is unnecessary according to me as well and you should reply to specific part of a post or if you want to quote whole post then use snip option but still you would find members doing it.It can happen sometime when you are on mobile but always doing the same thing just shows inappropriate posting behavior.

It is a bad habit with good posters because they don't feel good by themselves when over-quote like this. Assume I am a good poster, I will pick a point to quote and discuss that point. If I over quote, I will struggle myself that what point I am discussing and surely readers will have more difficulty to find what I am discussing.

But it is a good habit for shit posters because it saves their time. Over quoting is one of things to recognize shit posters.

Over-quoting is definitely a bad habit of some users who either out of laziness or ignorance of how to cut out unnecessary quotations create such posts. I've seen cases where to read a reply in such posts you have to scroll almost half a page. I will not speak for other moderators, but if anyone comes across posts that quote five or more users in the sections of the forum where I am a moderator, you can send reports on such posts. You can also report posts that quote huge chunks of text or huge pictures.

Well, it's not hard to find where you want to read from the post like that because it's on the bottom either you made a sentence or a paragraph. I would also say the same as what Findingnemo explained as some are too lazy to edit or trim the post because they are using mobile. I find it hard too to edit the post especially when you use mobile to post since it is not the same as laptop and desktop. I sometimes quote some post and not edit it since it is not against the forum rules and it is considered as spam too even though you may have posted on topic but it is because of not trimming the previous post.

The telegram bot that I use only notifies me of direct quotes and mentions, and the bot that I created used to do the same. So it's not really a major problem, the biggest annoyance is that it makes the threads less readable, and in general I just skip reading the reply of a pyramid quote, because it  most likely has zero value because good posters don't make such mistakes.

Some quotes are necessary some unnecessary and one of the purposes of multi-quoting is to call out those early posters about the information they provided by quoting them they are being called out, provided of course that they subscribe to the notification bot, it is a flow of conversation summarizing, but I agree there should be a limit on quoting, too much quoting will confuse many readers.

I have only come across this type of replies in megathreads, mostly in gambling and speculation. If a person has to make this type of comment, they likely did it for a reason. There are some conversations where you have to go back to where it all started before you can understand what is being discussed. Most people do this so that anyone who enters a discussion can quickly read and understand where it all began. I don't expect a random person to jump into any argument or discussion without knowing the reasons.

Is it complicated for those senior members, trimming the previous post so they have to quote that long lol, I just feel uncomfortable when I see it, cutting quotes is part of written literacy, surely the text that is quoted will look neater and easier to read, but I It's quite surprising why so many members still quote that much.

if it has become a habit then it will definitely be difficult to change it, and thankfully quotes like that only happen in megathreads lol.

Thanks for bringing this up. Like you said, it's not the first time a complaint like this has been made but let's hope your little shout can make a huge difference. I think it's not the newbies alone that are guilty of such practices, sadly it something that's done by all the ranking members on the forum. I see a lot of it on mega threads, especially on the gambling board and I find it really messy. IMO, single or double quote is enough and there's no need to pyramid quote just because you want to make a post or buttress a point.

Pyramid posting isn't against the forum rules, in my opinion, and there are situations when comments must be made in that style so that everyone can see and read the messages being replied to, much like on lending board. However, newcomers misuse the system excessively because they constantly neglect stuff. They are always told to read before posting, but they ignore this advice and post without fully understanding the forum, which leads to wrong actions. The funniest part of it all is seeing a very short post carrying a long pyramid on it’s head which they could’ve just quote the sentence that is to be replied. OP you did a good thing sharing these tips with us so newbies and those who don’t properly understand how to quote will learn from them. Pyramid quotes should be avoided where not necessary.

I don't even bother reading these articles because it's obvious from the first glance that they are spam, especially when they are from beginners. I disagree that mobile users make up the majority of pyramid posts because, as someone who uses a phone for posting, I too am aware that pyramid posting is not ideal and I don't quote every single thread that someone posts. Mobile users who know how to quote properly are not lazy to trim their quotes. If you are not knowledgeable about how to properly make quotes you will definitely end up making pyramid post regardless of the device you use so laziness does not come with a particular device and even PC users can become lazy and make pyramid posts.

I choose to ignore such postings because I am more interested in well-posted content, and pyramid posts tend to be crowded with information that makes it challenging to understand what is being said and whose quote I am currently reading. I appreciate the OP's effort in creating this thread to discourage it, but it is really bothersome. All I'm hoping for is that newbies would start reading before they post so they may find this and other related posts and gain knowledge from them. People should quit publishing in this manner since, as far as I'm concerned, I'm not the only one who ignores most pyramid posts that are actually useless.

I think if you're making a quote during a particular discussion, you should be specific on what you're quoting, multi quoting is not that being professional except if you pick out the different aspects of the posts you're quoting to speak on each seperately, maybe lately am beginning to see the reason why mega threads posts are not allowed in some cases because they are old and long time existing threads almost everything had been discussed about the subject matter and other comments may not carry very important idea anymore as when it all started.

According to the OP post, he already knew it was a pyramid post, which is prohibited in the forum, and you are posting like he doesn't know what a pyramid quote is and we should avoid it. And we really don't have to see this in global sections because the rules are strictly obeyed there, and consistently making pyramid quotations can cause trouble.
It does not matter if this case is rare or not; the forum has prohibited the use of PayPal quotes, so it is better for everyone to avoid unnecessary quotations. I also used to do this, but from the time I learned about it, I tried not to do it. If I have to, I prefer to write names, but in most cases, I don't have to, and that's where I agree with you because if I have to use it rarely, then you are 100 percent sure that it's not frequent, and it's been proven.

Other than Pyramid quoting, unnecessary calling is also annoying. For example,  if a person makes a post and calls your name in it, and another person tries to reply to that post, including your username, it will give you a notification of a quotation while the person replying to that quote is not talking to you.

It's very annoying when I see members' posts that "quote" quite long, while I always cut off parts that I think are already long, I see quite a lot of senior members who don't want to change this habit, they seem to feel that what they are doing that's right, however, quoting at length only disturbs the discussion. Just quote the part that interests you and you think is important, not all of it, let's discuss it regularly.

Some people just will never learn and probably they don't even want to learn. When I joined Bitcointalk 8 years ago, things looked same like in your image and not much has changed in all these years. And it's not just newbies, so many old members are doing same. Many people are too lazy and ignorant to remove irrevelant parts of quote. There is also part about SMF being old - I saw some other forums where it's physically impossible to make such huge quotes - you only can make quote of one post, not 5, 10 or 20.
And yeah, there is good point about Telegram bot notifications - it's really annoying when your name is getting mentione in discussion where you don't participate.
BTW, such pyramid quotes is a thing just on Bitcointalk. I saw it on other forums where people aren't getting paid from signature campaigns.