[UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Hardfork block 1042000 - Merge Mine w/BTC! - page 695.

Jelks

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Quote from: Blazr2 on August 21, 2014, 06:12:46 PM

Everything you need is in the wallet.dat OR the private keys if you prefer to make a paper offline wallet. Backing the wallet up simply makes a copy you dont need to fish out of your appdata folder

But are the transactions themselves -- and the latest balance -- also stored in the wallet? So that one would have to back it up/make a copy of it after every deposit/transaction so you don't lose coins? Or is the wallet itself merely a "pointer" to the relevant data in the blockchain and once one has a copy of the wallet backed up say on day 1, that's all you need to show your transactions and balance forever into the future?

(newbie to crypto question...)

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Quote from: Jelks on August 21, 2014, 06:00:00 PM

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Thanks for the help guys!

Indeed, from me too.

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So I can literally just move the wallet.dat file to usb, put the usb in my fireproof box, burn down my house, open the fireproof box, take my usb stick, put it in a new computer, download the client, put the wallet.dat file on my usb in the place of my new clients' wallet.dat file, and have all my coins??

Also, do you have to "Backup" the wallet after each transaction you make, i.e., are the transactions themselves -- and the latest balance -- also stored in the wallet?

Everything you need is in the wallet.dat OR the private keys if you prefer to make a paper offline wallet. Backing the wallet up simply makes a copy you dont need to fish out of your appdata folder

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Thanks for the help guys!

Indeed, from me too.

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So I can literally just move the wallet.dat file to usb, put the usb in my fireproof box, burn down my house, open the fireproof box, take my usb stick, put it in a new computer, download the client, put the wallet.dat file on my usb in the place of my new clients' wallet.dat file, and have all my coins??

Also, do you have to "Backup" the wallet after each transaction you make, i.e., are the transactions themselves -- and the latest balance -- also stored in the wallet?

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Quote from: cryptapus on August 21, 2014, 11:42:23 AM

Quote from: timpeff on August 21, 2014, 10:42:31 AM

Quote from: FallingKnife on August 20, 2014, 06:35:21 PM

Quote from: timpeff on August 20, 2014, 06:31:34 PM

Wanted to ask you guys about storage onto a usb stick. Do you just save the wallet.dat file on the usb?
Never done this before and thought I'd see what you guys have to say before messing with it. Too many beautiful UNO's

My local wallets for all coins are encrypted and stored in 3 places: usb stick, local drive, and a cloud drive.

Your observations are interesting. I hadn't really considered the timing for when this community came together. Maybe that's the difference in tone.
I think we also have more experienced group here who have ego's that are not so easily threatened that they feel they have to win every argument.

is the wallet.dat file the only one you need on the usb?

Yes, the wallet.dat is all you need. Specifically, the private keys stored within. In fact if you sent them to a single address, the private key for that address is all you need.

Thanks for the help guys!

So I can literally just move the wallet.dat file to usb, put the usb in my fireproof box, burn down my house, open the fireproof box, take my usb stick, put it in a new computer, download the client, put the wallet.dat file on my usb in the place of my new clients' wallet.dat file, and have all my coins??

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Quote from: timpeff on August 21, 2014, 10:42:31 AM

Quote from: FallingKnife on August 20, 2014, 06:35:21 PM

Quote from: timpeff on August 20, 2014, 06:31:34 PM

Wanted to ask you guys about storage onto a usb stick. Do you just save the wallet.dat file on the usb?
Never done this before and thought I'd see what you guys have to say before messing with it. Too many beautiful UNO's

My local wallets for all coins are encrypted and stored in 3 places: usb stick, local drive, and a cloud drive.

Your observations are interesting. I hadn't really considered the timing for when this community came together. Maybe that's the difference in tone.
I think we also have more experienced group here who have ego's that are not so easily threatened that they feel they have to win every argument.

is the wallet.dat file the only one you need on the usb?

Yes, the wallet.dat is all you need. Specifically, the private keys stored within. In fact if you sent them to a single address, the private key for that address is all you need.

cryptapus

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Quote from: Bababoom on August 21, 2014, 08:18:00 AM

Quote from: cryptapus on August 19, 2014, 08:36:47 AM

Quote from: Bababoom on August 18, 2014, 05:20:16 PM

I've seen the 0.9.5 Wallet listed elsewhere as Built by jyap, for OS X 10.7+:

How would I contact him?

You can PM jyap from here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jyap-332203

If you're not running OSX 10.7+ I'm not sure if they will help... You may want to store your UNO in a paper wallet until a solution is found, if you're itching to get them off an exchange and into your hands....

Well I contacted jyap and he(?) confirmed I should be using the 0.9.5 client and to consult the good folk on the forum.... So I'm no further forward with my Mac client as 0.9.5 as it does not fire up and fails to create an Unobtanium folder in Application Support.

With respect to my lost 20 UNO. I have looked at the two similar transactions and the first shows a character string under the title "Redeemed at Input" that leads to a subsequent transaction from my wallet. I guess that's the one I actually recieved.

The second shows "Not yet redeemed" under the title "Redeemed at Input". Given that's from 28th July, can anyone suggest how to redeem it? (I have the Transaction code, Public key & Private key).

"Not yet redeemed" just means that it has not been spent yet. You never actually "receive" coins, just the right to sign them as an output in a future transaction. Check a block explorer (one from the OP) for the address you own. As long as the coins show that they are there and you have the private key, you are in good shape until a fixed client comes along... Which unfortunately I cannot help you with...

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Quote from: FallingKnife on August 20, 2014, 06:35:21 PM

Quote from: timpeff on August 20, 2014, 06:31:34 PM

Wanted to ask you guys about storage onto a usb stick. Do you just save the wallet.dat file on the usb?
Never done this before and thought I'd see what you guys have to say before messing with it. Too many beautiful UNO's

My local wallets for all coins are encrypted and stored in 3 places: usb stick, local drive, and a cloud drive.

Your observations are interesting. I hadn't really considered the timing for when this community came together. Maybe that's the difference in tone.
I think we also have more experienced group here who have ego's that are not so easily threatened that they feel they have to win every argument.

is the wallet.dat file the only one you need on the usb?

Bababoom

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Quote from: cryptapus on August 19, 2014, 08:36:47 AM

Quote from: Bababoom on August 18, 2014, 05:20:16 PM

I've seen the 0.9.5 Wallet listed elsewhere as Built by jyap, for OS X 10.7+:

How would I contact him?

You can PM jyap from here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jyap-332203

If you're not running OSX 10.7+ I'm not sure if they will help... You may want to store your UNO in a paper wallet until a solution is found, if you're itching to get them off an exchange and into your hands....

Well I contacted jyap and he(?) confirmed I should be using the 0.9.5 client and to consult the good folk on the forum.... So I'm no further forward with my Mac client as 0.9.5 as it does not fire up and fails to create an Unobtanium folder in Application Support.

With respect to my lost 20 UNO. I have looked at the two similar transactions and the first shows a character string under the title "Redeemed at Input" that leads to a subsequent transaction from my wallet. I guess that's the one I actually recieved.

The second shows "Not yet redeemed" under the title "Redeemed at Input". Given that's from 28th July, can anyone suggest how to redeem it? (I have the Transaction code, Public key & Private key).

FallingKnife

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Quote from: BitcoinCharlie on August 20, 2014, 07:09:06 PM

Quote from: FallingKnife on August 20, 2014, 06:35:21 PM

Quote from: timpeff on August 20, 2014, 06:31:34 PM

Wanted to ask you guys about storage onto a usb stick. Do you just save the wallet.dat file on the usb?
Never done this before and thought I'd see what you guys have to say before messing with it. Too many beautiful UNO's

My local wallets for all coins are encrypted and stored in 3 places: usb stick, local drive, and a cloud drive.

Your observations are interesting. I hadn't really considered the timing for when this community came together. Maybe that's the difference in tone.
I think we also have more experienced group here who have ego's that are not so easily threatened that they feel they have to win every argument.

FK, what cloud service do you trust your UNO to?

I like MegaSync from mega.co.uk

IMZ

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Coindesk: Australian Tax on Bitcoin text released. Australian Gov passive-aggressive. Really yokel. Will drive the libertatarian current of cryptos.

M.

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Quote from: FallingKnife on August 20, 2014, 06:35:21 PM

Quote from: timpeff on August 20, 2014, 06:31:34 PM

Wanted to ask you guys about storage onto a usb stick. Do you just save the wallet.dat file on the usb?
Never done this before and thought I'd see what you guys have to say before messing with it. Too many beautiful UNO's

My local wallets for all coins are encrypted and stored in 3 places: usb stick, local drive, and a cloud drive.

Your observations are interesting. I hadn't really considered the timing for when this community came together. Maybe that's the difference in tone.
I think we also have more experienced group here who have ego's that are not so easily threatened that they feel they have to win every argument.

FK, what cloud service do you trust your UNO to?

Also, I agree, in a fledgling project, egos have no place. The egos must be secondary to UNO and we should all work together to expand it.

IMZ

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@ V500: 'micro centralisation' -- and here are two (theoretical) thoughts:

One: it's not the SIZE of a bureaucracy. It's mechanisms and a culture that keeps it. -- ya know those toddler harnesses that moms use in supermarkets?! JUST LIKE THAT!

Two: develop mechanisms to benefit those who contribute more, and disbenefit the anti-social elements. The in-house exchange -- 'U-nex' -- is a baby step. All tribes since the dawn of time have had these mechanisms as a matter of course -- but pseudonymity in a tribe is historically unique, and requires addressing carefully. There is a bazillionty dollars to be shared by the first coin-community that cracks this nut.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Western Australia

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Quote from: timpeff on August 20, 2014, 06:31:34 PM

Wanted to ask you guys about storage onto a usb stick. Do you just save the wallet.dat file on the usb?
Never done this before and thought I'd see what you guys have to say before messing with it. Too many beautiful UNO's

My local wallets for all coins are encrypted and stored in 3 places: usb stick, local drive, and a cloud drive.

Your observations are interesting. I hadn't really considered the timing for when this community came together. Maybe that's the difference in tone.
I think we also have more experienced group here who have ego's that are not so easily threatened that they feel they have to win every argument.

timpeff

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Hey guys/gals- just want to say a couple things everybody already knows but just want to remind you
This community ROCKS. Go on other coins bitcointalk threads and you will quickly just want to come back home to UNO.
This community has some individuals whose ideas are helping set UNO apart from 99% of the other coins.
Unlike DOGE, whose community was built when the coins value was very high, UNO's community came together during a four month dump and at incredibly undervalued prices. I think this has brought a different dynamic emulating throughout the community that no other coin has.

one thing worries me and thats the number of coins at cryptsy. UNO's fate is tied to cryptsy right now and thats not good.

The 1st annual blue crypto award sounds so awesome. What a great idea.

One more thing--Wanted to ask you guys about storage onto a usb stick. Do you just save the wallet.dat file on the usb?
Never done this before and thought I'd see what you guys have to say before messing with it. Too many beautiful UNO's

FallingKnife

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Quote from: BitcoinCharlie on August 20, 2014, 05:27:38 PM

Yeah, crazy, right? Either there are several metric tons of UNO stored there by us UNOers or Cryptsy is trying to corner the market? Wonlong abandoned his stash at Cryptsy? Sad

My hope is for a thousand people each holding an average of 50 Uno.

Unless you get Big Vern drunk, you'll never know.

BitcoinCharlie

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Yeah, crazy, right? Either there are several metric tons of UNO stored there by us UNOers or Cryptsy is trying to corner the market? Wonlong abandoned his stash at Cryptsy? Sad

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That is just unnerving then, that one exchange has control of 30% of the total supply. I guess it is possible, but it does defy any sort of logic. Why in the world would so many people use an exchange as storage? I guess THAT is the question i am struggling the most with.

BitcoinCharlie

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My trace, again, not that I know what I'm doing, went back ultimately back to the big wallet. In the penultimate transaction, the big wallet had funded a smaller wallet that had transmitted several small amounts to various wallets...

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Quote from: sirsmokesalot on August 20, 2014, 02:31:37 PM

My second uno withdrawal from cryptsy came through, woowoo! I have no reason to trust cryptsy, i have no reason to not trust them. Well, the lack of trust is weighted a bit more after having to wait a combined two weeks for two withdrawals, but they did eventually come through.

It looks like the number two wallet is an exchange. That number one wallet though, hmmmm, i just don't have any logical reason as to why it would be an exchange. Why would an exchange have 30% of the coins?

Based on what I've just witnessed, I'm going to side with the people who think that uRAN is Cryptsy cold storage.

Yesterday's #2 wallet seems to have been distributed to the people who are reporting their Cryptsy withdrawal orders being fulfilled.
We know that the #2 wallet from yesterday came directly from the present #1 wallet (uRAN).

The present #2 wallet is old udYSEGNw, which hasn't moved in 126 days.

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Quote from: sirsmokesalot on August 20, 2014, 02:31:37 PM

My second uno withdrawal from cryptsy came through, woowoo! I have no reason to trust cryptsy, i have no reason to not trust them. Well, the lack of trust is weighted a bit more after having to wait a combined two weeks for two withdrawals, but they did eventually come through.

It looks like the number two wallet is an exchange. That number one wallet though, hmmmm, i just don't have any logical reason as to why it would be an exchange. Why would an exchange have 30% of the coins?

I'm no computer science wiz kid, but I believe that I was able to trace my Cryptsy UNO withdrawals through a series of wallets back to the big one using the blockchain...

Has anyone else tried that?

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