Unofficial "High MHash"/"Best Settings" GPU Comparision Thread

dani

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Thank you for your help, i will post further on cgminer thread.

for the temps: some cards are even lower (63°c). pictures here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--7216. i also applied new cooling paste last month.
if overclocked to 975/300 (1.128 V) the system is getting way hotter (like 73-74 on avarage). keept it cool

edit: i fixed it! i was thinking vectors 2 isnt working, but i tried again: it works now. it works as it should im so happy right now

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Ad astra.

OP updated, thanks Dani. That's an impressive temp with that OC and 20% fan, nice job.

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Quote from: jjshabadoo on August 24, 2012, 04:00:14 PM

You need SDK 2.1 for 100% CPU usage with 5xxx series cards.

Fixed that 4 U.

I was able to get 0.3 % better performance with SDK 2.1

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Quote from: jjshabadoo on August 24, 2012, 04:00:14 PM

You need SDK 2.1 for best performance of 5xxx series cards.

I don't understand why people are always saying that. I always got exceptional hashrates on my 58xx and 5970 cards with 2.5. It was 2.6+ that stunk for 5xxx cards.

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You need SDK 2.1 for best performance of 5xxx series cards.

I use driver 11.12 and SDK 2.1 on my 5970's and 5870's and you get max hash rates with that combo.

CGminer is also a very easy miner to work with, but people can get slightly higher hash rates with Phoenix although phoenix requires some more configuring as the poster above showed you.

CGminer doesn't require as much configuring for optimal performance.

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Quote from: dani on August 24, 2012, 02:48:08 PM

im very frustrated Sad

i tried phoenix already, it gives 266 mh/s now, most likely because it runs on stock clock. How can i adjust clock/etc without any (stupid) tools? (266 on 800mnz would be excellent i guess, making 320 on 975 possible

).
I tried deleting any amd/ati file like you said here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amd-app-sdk-26-63616
also installed 11.6.
Now opencl wont find any card except gpu0 (no gpu1,2,3..). Damn, my day is already screwed..

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18:51] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
18:51] ADL found more devices than opencl!
18:51] There is possibly at least one GPU that doesn't support

18:51] Use the gpu map feature to reliably map OpenCL to ADL
18:51] WARNING: Number of OpenCL and ADL devices did not match!
18:51] Hardware monitoring may NOT match up with devices!

edit: i found out phoenix was running on 970/180.. still only 266mh/s. Thats madness!

Driver 11.11 is fine, it comes with SDK 2.5 runtimes after you find and remove newer ones (which you only need to do once). I use Sapphire Trixx to overclock, but MSI Afterburner will also change clocks and voltage above what the stock ATI control panel allows. I don't know where you got 180MHz ram setting, 350-380MHz RAM will be the peak performance on a 5830 with SDK 2.5.

The phoenix 2.0 config file has entries for each GPU - you just need to copy the working [cl:0:0] parameters to additional [cl:0:1] [cl:0:2] and [cl:0:3] for each GPU.

This is offtopic, futher questions should go to the phoenix thread or cgminer threads.

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im very frustrated Sad

i tried phoenix already, it gives 266 mh/s now, most likely because it runs on stock clock. How can i adjust clock/etc without any (stupid) tools? (266 on 800mnz would be excellent i guess, making 320 on 975 possible

).
I tried deleting any amd/ati file like you said here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amd-app-sdk-26-63616
also installed 11.6.
Now opencl wont find any card except gpu0 (no gpu1,2,3..). Damn, my day is already screwed..

Quote

18:51] Loaded configuration file cgminer.conf
18:51] ADL found more devices than opencl!
18:51] There is possibly at least one GPU that doesn't support

18:51] Use the gpu map feature to reliably map OpenCL to ADL
18:51] WARNING: Number of OpenCL and ADL devices did not match!
18:51] Hardware monitoring may NOT match up with devices!

edit: i found out phoenix was running on 970/180.. still only 266mh/s. Thats madness!

deepceleron

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You can just use Phoenix miner which comes with phatk2.

here's a phoenix.cfg file for you, just put in your pool info:

[general]
   autodetect = +cl -cpu #Use autodetect for all OpenCL devices, except those which are CPUs.
   verbose = True #Enable verbose logging?
   backend = http://user:[email protected]:8332 #The primary backend.
   backups = http://user:[email protected]:8332 #A space seperated list of backup servers.
   failback = 300 #Seconds between attempts to reconnect to primary backend when using backups. (0 to disable)
   queuesize = 1 #Target/maximum size of the queue
   queuedelay = 5 #Seconds before work expires to request more work (WARNING: don't change this unless you know what you are doing!)
   statusinterval = 1 #Seconds between statusbar updates
   ratesamples = 10 #Number of samples to average for hashrate reporting
   logfile = False #Set this option to log to a file.
[web]
   disabled = True #Disable the RPC server?
   bind = 192.168.1.100 #IP to bind the RPC server to
   port = 7780 #RPC port
   password = phoenix #RPC password
   root = C:\phoenix2\phoenix2\www #Root directory for the web server
   logbuffer = 1000 #How many logs to remember in the getlogs() RPC call
[cl:0:0]
   autoconfigure = False #Automatically configure this device?
   kernel = phatk2 #The kernel to use for the device
   name = GPU 0 #The name to display the device as (default is device ID if not specified)
   start_undetected = False #Do not start the kernel if the device is not present
   disabled = False #Disable this device?
   worksize = 256 #Work group size, tweaking this option may improve performance
   vectors = True #Use unit2 vectors? (enable this or vectors4, not both)
   vectors4 = False #Use uint4 vectors? (enable this or vectors, not both)
   bfi_int = True #Use BFI_INT instruction on ATI VLIW GPUs?
   goffset = True #Use OpenCL 1.1 global offset?
   fastloop = False #Use fast internal loop? (ideal for low aggression)
   aggression = 12 #Number of nonces to test per kernel execution (lower value = less desktop lag, higher value = higher hashrate)
[cl:0:1]
   autoconfigure = False
   kernel = phatk2
   name = GPU 1
   start_undetected = False
   disabled = False
   worksize = 256
   vectors = True
   vectors4 = False
   bfi_int = True
   fastloop = False
   aggression = 12
[cl:1:0]
   autoconfigure = True

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Quote from: deepceleron on August 24, 2012, 12:42:50 PM

on a 5830:
Phatk2 - with BFI INT enabled, 256 worksize, vectors (2vector), at ~360MHz RAM and as high coreclock as you can get. Look at my previous posts on the first page of this topic.

SDK 2.5 is a good choice, you have to make sure that if you have ever installed a driver after 11.11 or SDK 2.6+ that you manually go in and remove the opencl files left behind by SDK 2.6, neither the uninstaller or a reinstallation of an older driver properly removes them. Stream SDK 2.1 will get +1%, but for the time it will take for you to get it working (substituting around files, newer miners won't work right because this SDK only support OpenCL 1.0, etc) it's not worth it.

i see, thanks. I just dont know how to install/use phatk2. Where do i get the phatk2 kernel from? I found this site containing phatk2:
https://github.com/DDarko/Phoenix-Miner/tree/master/kernels/phatk2

but where to put it? Please, your help is appreciated very much

edit:

i tried to replace the original phatk120823.cl or so with the kernelfile i found (phatk2). Get an error:

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[2012-08-24 19:53:21] Started cgminer 2.7.3

error detected in the compilation of "C:\Users\root\AppData\Local\Temp\OCLABB2
tmp.cl".

nternal error: clc compiler invocation failed.

[2012-08-24 19:53:22] Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0
[2012-08-24 19:53:22] Restarting the GPU from the menu will not fix this.
[2012-08-24 19:53:22] Try restarting cgminer.
ress enter to continue:

same error when i call the kernel phatk2120823.cl and use -k phatk2

As you mentioned its hard to deinstall higher drivers/sdk. i deinstalled drivers and sdk via install manager, then went to windows/system32/ delted 3 files (amdcpl64, amdcplcl64,Opencl or so) and the same on systemWOW64 or so. Reinstalled sdk 2.5 and driver version 11.11. im pretty sure there is no 2.6 sdk running, but how can i tell? Did i miss any files?

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Quote from: dani on August 24, 2012, 11:41:37 AM

I just saw i have the 100% cpu bug. i tried 11.11, 11.12 (no difference for me) and 12.6 (worst)... ill try 10.6, i thought 11.11 was the best.. thanks in advice!

edit: thats odd. i now have sdk 2.5 running (drivers 11.11, it seems the driver version doesnt effect mhash, but sdk does). I have 1mh/s less than before. Wtf?

edit: fixed the 100% cpu bug, using 12.6 drivers but 2.5 sdk. Still no improvement except 100% cpu bug is gone. Any point in using older sdk than 2.5? Is 2.5 the best choice for cgminer 2.6.5 with diablo kernel?

I dont see whats the best combination. is it the kernel? Phatk performs way worse than diablo.

on a 5830:
Phatk2 - with BFI INT enabled, 256 worksize, vectors (2vector), at ~360MHz RAM and as high coreclock as you can get. Look at my previous posts on the first page of this topic.

SDK 2.5 is a good choice, you have to make sure that if you have ever installed a driver after 11.11 or SDK 2.6+ that you manually go in and remove the opencl files left behind by SDK 2.6, neither the uninstaller or a reinstallation of an older driver properly removes them. Stream SDK 2.1 will get +1%, but for the time it will take for you to get it working (substituting around files, newer miners won't work right because this SDK only support OpenCL 1.0, etc) it's not worth it.

dani

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I just saw i have the 100% cpu bug. i tried 11.11, 11.12 (no difference for me) and 12.6 (worst)... ill try 10.6, i thought 11.11 was the best.. thanks in advice!

edit: thats odd. i now have sdk 2.5 running (drivers 11.11, it seems the driver version doesnt effect mhash, but sdk does). I have 1mh/s less than before. Wtf?

edit: fixed the 100% cpu bug, using 12.6 drivers but 2.5 sdk. Still no improvement except 100% cpu bug is gone. Any point in using older sdk than 2.5? Is 2.5 the best choice for cgminer 2.6.5 with diablo kernel?

I dont see whats the best combination. is it the kernel? Phatk performs way worse than diablo.

edit2: for some reason sdk 2.1 didnt work with cgminer

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Quote from: dani on August 24, 2012, 09:20:20 AM

Card Manufacturer: ATI Sapphire
Card Model Number: 5830 Extreme 1gb
Card OEM:
MHash per Second: 279
Core Clock: 925
Memory Clock: 180
Average Operating Temperature: 68 °C
Ambient Temperature: 30 °C
Fan Speed: 20%
Host OS: Win7 - 64bit extreme
Driver Version: catalyst suite (minimal installation) 11.11
Mining Program: cgminer 2.6.5
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: -k diablo, worksize: 256, vectors: 1, intensity: 9, gpu-threads: 2
Other Information: 4 cards, seperated by 1x-16x pcie riser, without plastic on the fans. sempron 140 (unlocked to athlon II X2 4400e) and some 900watt psu. GPU vddc 1.065 V

Anyone could tell me why my cards only run around 279? I tried bamt with phoenix, it gave me about 300mh/s on same settings. Phoenix on win7 will give me like 850-900 only (maybe because i cant overclock properly). Any other kernel performs worse (using diablo).

Please anyone?

Experiment with different driver versions? I thought catalyst 10.6 were meant to be best for 5xxx cards. Also you're not having problems with the 100% cpu bug are you?

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Card Manufacturer: ATI Sapphire
Card Model Number: 5830 Extreme 1gb
Card OEM:
MHash per Second: 279
Core Clock: 925
Memory Clock: 180
Average Operating Temperature: 68 °C
Ambient Temperature: 30 °C
Fan Speed: 20%
Host OS: Win7 - 64bit extreme
Driver Version: catalyst suite (minimal installation) 11.11
Mining Program: cgminer 2.6.5
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: -k diablo, worksize: 256, vectors: 1, intensity: 9, gpu-threads: 2
Other Information: 4 cards, seperated by 1x-16x pcie riser, without plastic on the fans. sempron 140 (unlocked to athlon II X2 4400e) and some 900watt psu. GPU vddc 1.065 V

Anyone could tell me why my cards only run around 279? I tried bamt with phoenix, it gave me about 300mh/s on same settings. Phoenix on win7 will give me like 850-900 only (maybe because i cant overclock properly). Any other kernel performs worse (using diablo).

Please anyone?

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Why u guys put the card HD 5850 at 560 Memory clock isnt 300 better or no?

i was using 840 and 300 memory clock.

~334 mH/S do i have to change something?

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Quote from: Mabsark on May 10, 2012, 04:26:21 AM

If you don't want to believe that, then that's your choice. If anyone wants a possible extra 50 MH/s though, all they have to do is test this themselves. You don't have to take my word for it.

Mabsark, just so you know. You should really take another look at the post several people have made on the previous page and take their words for it. They have stated your conclusions are incorrect. They have also told you why they are incorrect. In addition to that you have told us in your own words how your reported numbers are completely incorrect and this is why the assumptions you have made with this data and believe to be true are in fact false.

With that said, if you are at all interested in knowing the true speed and potential earnings your hardware are capable of. You should really attempt to absorb the comments and help those people have offered. If you go to either of the post made by ckolivas, and follow the link in his sig it will take you to the most widely used mining software miners are mining with. You may find it a little intimidating and a bit more in depth than guiminer, but it will not mislead you with false stats and will give you a more realistic view of wats really goin on when you are not playing games.

good luck and may the force be with you

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Updated, thanks guys.

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roundhouseminer

Card Manufacturer: AMD x2
Card Model Number: HD 5850
Card OEM: MSI x2 OC Edition
MHash per Second: 330 (48 hours average)
Core Clock: 850
Memory Clock: 560
Average Operating Temperature: 64C
Ambient Temperature: 20C
Fan Speed: 37%
Host OS: Windows 7 64bit
Driver Version: Catalyst 12.3
Mining Program: cgminer 2.4.1
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: diablo kernel, intensity gpu0=8, gpu1=14, voltage 1.024V

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Here is my summer settings:
Card Model Number: HD 5870
Card OEM: Powercolor
MHash per Second: 378
Core Clock: 830
Memory Clock: 300
Average Operating Temperature: 64C
Ambient Temperature: Around 25C
Fan Speed: 40%
Host OS: Windows Seven
Driver Version: Catalyst 11.12
Mining Program: Phoenix + AOCLBF
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: phatk2 kernel, vectors, worksize 256, intensity 10, voltage 0.960

Card Model Number: HD 5830
Card OEM: XFX
MHash per Second: 230
Core Clock: 730
Memory Clock: 200
Average Operating Temperature: 63C
Ambient Temperature: Around 25C
Fan Speed: 46%
Host OS: Seven
Driver Version: Catalyst 11.12
Mining Program: Phoenix + AOCLBF
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: phatk2 kernel, vectors, worksize 256, intensity 10, voltage 0.950

Serenata

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Card Manufacturer: AMD
Card Model Number: HD 5850
Card OEM: SAPPHIRE (Xtreme)
MHash per Second: 301 (48 hours average)
Core Clock: 800
Memory Clock: 300
Average Operating Temperature: 74C
Ambient Temperature: 26C
Fan Speed: 47%
Host OS: Windows 7 64bit
Driver Version: Catalyst 12.4
Mining Program: cgminer 2.4.1
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: diablo kernel, vectors 2, worksize 128, intensity 4, voltage 1.050

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Quote from: Mabsark on May 10, 2012, 04:26:21 AM

If you don't want to believe that, then that's your choice. If anyone wants a possible extra 50 MH/s though, all they have to do is test this themselves. You don't have to take my word for it.

i try it and notice 10mh/s more for two 5850 850mhz. I can rise the gpu speed, but first i want to test this improvement for 24h.
Guiminer 2012-02-19

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