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Topic: Unofficial "High MHash"/"Best Settings" GPU Comparision Thread - page 2. (Read 30211 times)

legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I don't care what the hash rate says.
I'm not gonna take your word for it coz all you are doing is quoting what some program is telling you.

I care what the shares/minute say over time.
That can't lie. It has variance. As you just shown yourself with those 2 numbers.
But over a long period of time it will tell you what your hash rate really is.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
You keep stating that the MH/s was blah regularly - which of course you'd expect it to always be consistent.
However to determine if it might be accurate is to ether look at a long term shares/minute or look at the shares/minute you get regularly over time.

As that one shows there, it varies by 5% easily (but it can vary a lot more over short a period of time)

Like I said, I've been running with these settings since Catalyst 11.7 came out. It was that update which gave the increase. I already had 2 workers mining seperate pools at a total hashrate of ~315 MH/s and after that update my hashrate shot up. I've already determined that it's accurate, I don't need to do so again. That is my hashrate and it is due to the second worker.

If you don't want to believe that, then that's your choice. If anyone wants a possible extra 50 MH/s though, all they have to do is test this themselves. You don't have to take my word for it.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Shares/minute (submitted - not calculated)

I not sure what trying to say. If you're asking for my shares/minute, then the answer is in the screenshots.

77 / 15 = 5.1333...
81 / 15 = 5.4
Yep as even that those 2 inconclusive short rounds show.

You keep stating that the MH/s was blah regularly - which of course you'd expect it to always be consistent.
However to determine if it might be accurate is to ether look at a long term shares/minute or look at the shares/minute you get regularly over time.

As that one shows there, it varies by 5% easily (but it can vary a lot more over short a period of time)
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
Shares/minute (submitted - not calculated)

I not sure what trying to say. If you're asking for my shares/minute, then the answer is in the screenshots.

77 / 15 = 5.1333...
81 / 15 = 5.4
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
You seriously need to run for 24hours or your figures are quite MEANINGLESS.
Even at 24h it's possible to get a variance high enough to make it look better than it is.

I can't, I've got too many games to play and not enough time to play them. Sure, variance can make it look higher (or worse) but by around 50 MH/s on a consistent basis ever since Catayst 11.7 came out? I find that highly unlikely.
Shares/minute (submitted - not calculated)
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
You seriously need to run for 24hours or your figures are quite MEANINGLESS.
Even at 24h it's possible to get a variance high enough to make it look better than it is.

I can't, I've got too many games to play and not enough time to play them. Sure, variance can make it look higher (or worse) but by around 50 MH/s on a consistent basis ever since Catayst 11.7 came out? I find that highly unlikely.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Just for verification, would you mind posting a screenshot? Not that I don't trust you, but those results are beyond anything I've ever seen for a 6870.



Here's some I posted in another thread the other day:

https://i.imgur.com/jr5jy.png

https://i.imgur.com/x6T1I.png

And here's another one I just took:


Interesting so when my Icarus ran for 3.5 hours at a share submission rate of 5.60 shares a minute I can take that as proof that an Icarus can hash at 401MH/s ?

No my Icarus (with default bitstream) can hash at a MAX of ~380MH/s

At 5.4 shares/minute 400 shares is only 74minutes ....

You seriously need to run for 24hours or your figures are quite MEANINGLESS.
Even at 24h it's possible to get a variance high enough to make it look better than it is.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
I'm sorry, clearly I don't know what I'm talking about.

I'm not saying you don't know what you're talking about, I'm asking if you've tried running 2 workers on a single 5870 using Phoenix and phatk2.
-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
6870 Northern Islands has 1120 stream processors of the same architecture as the 5870 which has 1600. Performance is linearly related to architecture * stream processors * Mhz. Therefore at exact same clocks, the 6870 should be (1120/1600) 0.7 * Mhash of a 5870. At 1000Mhz, the 5870 gets at best ~460Mhash. Therefore a number as high as 375 for a 6870 is ... highly unlikely.

What makes you think that a 5870 can only get ~460 MH/s? Have you tried running 2 workers on a single 5870? Maybe you'll get over 500 MH/s if you do.

I'm sorry, clearly I don't know what I'm talking about.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
6870 Northern Islands has 1120 stream processors of the same architecture as the 5870 which has 1600. Performance is linearly related to architecture * stream processors * Mhz. Therefore at exact same clocks, the 6870 should be (1120/1600) 0.7 * Mhash of a 5870. At 1000Mhz, the 5870 gets at best ~460Mhash. Therefore a number as high as 375 for a 6870 is ... highly unlikely.

What makes you think that a 5870 can only get ~460 MH/s? Have you tried running 2 workers on a single 5870? Maybe you'll get over 500 MH/s if you do.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
Just for verification, would you mind posting a screenshot? Not that I don't trust you, but those results are beyond anything I've ever seen for a 6870.



Here's some I posted in another thread the other day:





And here's another one I just took:

-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
6870 Northern Islands has 1120 stream processors of the same architecture as the 5870 which has 1600. Performance is linearly related to architecture * stream processors * Mhz. Therefore at exact same clocks, the 6870 should be (1120/1600) 0.7 * Mhash of a 5870. At 1000Mhz, the 5870 gets at best ~460Mhash. Therefore a number as high as 375 for a 6870 is ... highly unlikely.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Ad astra.
Those are fake reports of guiminer I guess. Best to check your real hashrate is to use 24h stats on ozcoin. And could be as well that you're getting extra mhashes out of your cpu. Check your cpu usage.

Been there, done that. The results are legit. I've been using those settings for over 6 months and both guiminer and every pool I've mined at show the same results. I can't really check results over a 24 hour period as I'm not a dedicated miner, I'm a dedicated gamer.

Run a second worker on phoenix 1, and you get a major boost in Mh/s. Well, you do with 6870's anyway and someone else told me that they got a 40 Mh/s increase on a 5830 at stock settings.



Just for verification, would you mind posting a screenshot? Not that I don't trust you, but those results are beyond anything I've ever seen for a 6870.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
Those are fake reports of guiminer I guess. Best to check your real hashrate is to use 24h stats on ozcoin. And could be as well that you're getting extra mhashes out of your cpu. Check your cpu usage.

Been there, done that. The results are legit. I've been using those settings for over 6 months and both guiminer and every pool I've mined at show the same results. I can't really check results over a 24 hour period as I'm not a dedicated miner, I'm a dedicated gamer.

Run a second worker on phoenix 1, and you get a major boost in Mh/s. Well, you do with 6870's anyway and someone else told me that they got a 40 Mh/s increase on a 5830 at stock settings.

hero member
Activity: 535
Merit: 500
You should find these results interesting I think.
 
Card Manufacturer: AMD
Card Model Number: HD 6870
Card OEM: XFX (Reference)
MHash per Second: 375
Shares per minute: 5.4
Core Clock: 1000
Memory Clock: 200
Average Operating Temperature: 74C
Ambient Temperature: 17C?
Fan Speed: 40%
Host OS: Win 7 32-bit
Driver Version: Catalyst 11.9
Mining Program: guiminer v2012-02-19 with Phoenix updated to 1.75 running 2 workers
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: both workers using -k phatk2 platform=0 device=0 VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=6 worksize=128 FASTLOOP=false

You get the same results without updating Phoenix and even with guiminer v2011-07-01. The key is running a second worker.
Those are fake reports of guiminer I guess. Best to check your real hashrate is to use 24h stats on ozcoin. And could be as well that you're getting extra mhashes out of your cpu. Check your cpu usage.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
You should find these results interesting I think.
 
Card Manufacturer: AMD
Card Model Number: HD 6870
Card OEM: XFX (Reference)
MHash per Second: 375
Shares per minute: 5.4
Core Clock: 1000
Memory Clock: 200
Average Operating Temperature: 74C
Ambient Temperature: 17C?
Fan Speed: 40%
Host OS: Win 7 32-bit
Driver Version: Catalyst 11.9
Mining Program: guiminer v2011-07-01 running 2 workers
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: both workers using -k phatk2 platform=0 device=0 VECTORS BFI_INT AGGRESSION=6 worksize=128 FASTLOOP=false

The key is running a second worker.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
roundhouseminer
One Day i open the Monitor and the last thing i see for a few second was 800Mh/s on the Guiminer. Then it fall back to ~660.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Ad astra.

Huh, something doesnt quite add up, a 5850 at 850 doing 400Mh , either you run imaginary superman juice on that card or something doesnt add up, seems way to high for that clockspeed.
Your right, that was only a peak. ^^
Under Desktop usage the cards have ~330Mh/s

That's very strange - running non graphically-demanding programs should not take 70 MH/s off...
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
roundhouseminer

Huh, something doesnt quite add up, a 5850 at 850 doing 400Mh , either you run imaginary superman juice on that card or something doesnt add up, seems way to high for that clockspeed.
Your right, that was only a peak. ^^
Under Desktop usage the cards have ~330Mh/s
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 502
Card Manufacturer: AMD
Card Model Number: 5850
Card OEM: msi (Reference)
MHash per Second: 400
Core Clock: 850
Memory Clock: 560
Average Operating Temperature: 72 and 77°C
Ambient Temperature: 18°
Fan Speed: 40 and 42%, org AMD Design
Host OS: W7 x64
Driver Version: 12.3
Mining Program: Stan.openCLminer
Command Line Flags/GUIminer Settings: -v -w 128
(Optional) Watts Drawn While Mining: ?
(Optional) Other Information: Undervoltet

Huh, something doesnt quite add up, a 5850 at 850 doing 400Mh , either you run imaginary superman juice on that card or something doesnt add up, seems way to high for that clockspeed.
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