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sr. member
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January 29, 2015, 09:16:29 PM
I am wondering if it would be possible to run an SP-20 with a single CX-750 with lowered voltage settings any thoughts what the settings would be or if it's feasible?
legendary
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January 27, 2015, 12:06:19 PM
Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.

0.93 is based on the official test of one unit, but of course can vary a little in reality and with PSU age.

Do an interesting experiment:  Using a KillaWatt meter test the actual draw.  Compare that to SP20 software reported value.

If we know the reference preset is .9 it would mean I would hope your KillaWatt draw would be less than the number advertised.

I did all that for my PSUs, that's how I came up with the 0.93 value.
Now all I need is to be able to update it in the the firmware, so its' calculations are correct.

right now it is very close to (board1+board2+board3+board4)X1.1
just do the same and multiply by 1.07 instead of 1.1, unless it is a vanity thing (records of smallest watts, etc, but since it depends on PSU it does not matter anyway)
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January 27, 2015, 11:56:44 AM
Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.

0.93 is based on the official test of one unit, but of course can vary a little in reality and with PSU age.

Do an interesting experiment:  Using a KillaWatt meter test the actual draw.  Compare that to SP20 software reported value.

If we know the reference preset is .9 it would mean I would hope your KillaWatt draw would be less than the number advertised.

I did all that for my PSUs, that's how I came up with the 0.93 value.
Now all I need is to be able to update it in the the firmware, so its' calculations are correct.
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Activity: 122
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January 27, 2015, 06:21:18 AM
I do these tests constantly and depending on the PSU and(!) the actual percentage of it's maximum power draw it is very close to it.
depending on the PSU the efficiency can drop a lot if utilized under 25%.
e.g. with a 2000W PSU it's always smarter to run 2 SP20 (up to 1600 GH)
sr. member
Activity: 472
Merit: 250
January 26, 2015, 09:50:10 PM
Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.

0.93 is based on the official test of one unit, but of course can vary a little in reality and with PSU age.

Do an interesting experiment:  Using a KillaWatt meter test the actual draw.  Compare that to SP20 software reported value.

If we know the reference preset is .9 it would mean I would hope your KillaWatt draw would be less than the number advertised.
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January 26, 2015, 06:07:42 AM
Looks to be the mapping for the basic settings page vs. the advanced, as fasr as I can tell not a new feature...

 Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin  silly me.
did not notice that button.
full member
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January 25, 2015, 02:58:39 PM
Is it possible to change to PSU efficiency in the formula that calculates "wall watts" ?
I know the preset one is 0.90, but mine are 0.93
If I can update that number in the firmware, I'd have more correct readouts.
sr. member
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January 25, 2015, 01:50:30 PM
quiet: FAN:60 - just LOL
legendary
Activity: 1428
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https://www.bitworks.io
January 25, 2015, 01:43:12 PM
Code:
speedSettings = {
turbo: {FAN:90, VS0:.670, VS1:.670, VS2:.670, VS3:.670, VMAX:.730, AC0:1350, AC1:1350, AC2:1350, AC3:1350, DC_AMP:150, },
normal:{FAN:80, VS0:.670, VS1:.670, VS2:.670, VS3:.670, VMAX:.730, AC0:1350, AC1:1350, AC2:1350, AC3:1350, DC_AMP:150, },
quiet: {FAN:60, VS0:.660, VS1:.660, VS2:.660, VS3:.660, VMAX:.730, AC0:1100, AC1:1100, AC2:1100, AC3:1100, DC_AMP:150, },

 Huh
noticed that on a slow computer. is it hidden as upcoming feature?


Looks to be the mapping for the basic settings page vs. the advanced, as fasr as I can tell not a new feature...
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Activity: 122
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January 25, 2015, 01:42:08 PM
Code:
radio buttons:
    slow fans, medium rate

                          medium fans, high rate

                          turbo fans, highest rate
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speedSettings = {
turbo: {FAN:90, VS0:.670, VS1:.670, VS2:.670, VS3:.670, VMAX:.730, AC0:1350, AC1:1350, AC2:1350, AC3:1350, DC_AMP:150, },
normal:{FAN:80, VS0:.670, VS1:.670, VS2:.670, VS3:.670, VMAX:.730, AC0:1350, AC1:1350, AC2:1350, AC3:1350, DC_AMP:150, },
quiet: {FAN:60, VS0:.660, VS1:.660, VS2:.660, VS3:.660, VMAX:.730, AC0:1100, AC1:1100, AC2:1100, AC3:1100, DC_AMP:150, },

 Huh
noticed that on a slow computer. is it hidden as upcoming feature?
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Activity: 224
Merit: 100
January 24, 2015, 12:49:49 PM
I'm going to order the 3 x SP20 bundle for $1200. One question is how do you set one up to run at 1.6 TH? I have cheap electricity, no worries there. I would like step-by-step guide, please no link to Dogie's guide for noobs, his guides are a waste my time.

It seems I have to fiddle with voltage and watts and what not, very confusing. How do you set it up for 1.6 TH each unit? I have a bunch of 750 W Corsair modular PSUs. TIA.

2x   750 watt psu's

cold room 50f or colder  or 10c

go to settings page

Fan Speed---------------------------------------------80, 90,100    test each speed as 80 or 90 can work better then 100
,
Set your starting voltage no more then 10 mv under your stable working voltage (from ASIC stats page)
Start Volts Unit 1(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 2(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 3(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 4(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Set your Maximum voltage limit to 0.790 for unlimited or less for under-voltage
Voltage Limit (0.580-0.790)------------------------------------------------------------------0.79

Set PSU power.
Max PSU Power Unit 1 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Max PSU Power Unit 2 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts   if it works well leave it alone or crank it up to 288 after a 1 hour test.

Max PSU Power Unit 3 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Max PSU Power Unit 4 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Restart miner if rate below------------------------------------1200

FPGA serial speed (0=10MB, 1=5MB, 2=2.5MB)

ExtraFlag: add numbers: 1:no-scaling 2:extranonce.subscribe 4:no-debug 8:alt-bistword

Hostname, empty for default (needs reboot)

Save


Thanks for the comprehensive information! That's what I was looking for!

Dogie can learn a thing or two from Phillipma.
sr. member
Activity: 361
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January 24, 2015, 11:11:38 AM
Thanks, buddy - raised a request.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
January 24, 2015, 11:07:45 AM
So it looks like I have a problem with one of my units - the fan stays on 80 no matter what I select in the UI. I've factory reset it a few times, tried on different firmware versions but no matter what I change the fan speed to it doesn't actually change the fan speed. I even looked and the mg_custom_mode file via SSH and it reports the same value as what's in the UI.

Not sure if it's the fan itself ?

I don't really want to open the other units and take a fan from another to test this

Someone else had the same problem, its probably a wiring issue or a problem with the fan itself.

Open a ticket with support and they should be able to send you a new fan
sr. member
Activity: 361
Merit: 250
January 24, 2015, 10:17:26 AM
So it looks like I have a problem with one of my units - the fan stays on 80 no matter what I select in the UI. I've factory reset it a few times, tried on different firmware versions but no matter what I change the fan speed to it doesn't actually change the fan speed. I even looked and the mg_custom_mode file via SSH and it reports the same value as what's in the UI.

Not sure if it's the fan itself ?

I don't really want to open the other units and take a fan from another to test this
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
January 23, 2015, 11:18:55 PM
I'm going to order the 3 x SP20 bundle for $1200. One question is how do you set one up to run at 1.6 TH? I have cheap electricity, no worries there. I would like step-by-step guide, please no link to Dogie's guide for noobs, his guides are a waste my time.

It seems I have to fiddle with voltage and watts and what not, very confusing. How do you set it up for 1.6 TH each unit? I have a bunch of 750 W Corsair modular PSUs. TIA.

2x   750 watt psu's

cold room 50f or colder  or 10c

go to settings page

Fan Speed---------------------------------------------80, 90,100    test each speed as 80 or 90 can work better then 100
,
Set your starting voltage no more then 10 mv under your stable working voltage (from ASIC stats page)
Start Volts Unit 1(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 2(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 3(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Start Volts Unit 4(0.58-0.80)-------------------------0.69

Set your Maximum voltage limit to 0.790 for unlimited or less for under-voltage
Voltage Limit (0.580-0.790)------------------------------------------------------------------0.79

Set PSU power.
Max PSU Power Unit 1 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Max PSU Power Unit 2 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts   if it works well leave it alone or crank it up to 288 after a 1 hour test.

Max PSU Power Unit 3 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Max PSU Power Unit 4 (70W - 288W)-------------------250 watts

Restart miner if rate below------------------------------------1200

FPGA serial speed (0=10MB, 1=5MB, 2=2.5MB)

ExtraFlag: add numbers: 1:no-scaling 2:extranonce.subscribe 4:no-debug 8:alt-bistword

Hostname, empty for default (needs reboot)

Save
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
https://www.bitworks.io
January 23, 2015, 10:58:05 PM
I'm going to order the 3 x SP20 bundle for $1200. One question is how do you set one up to run at 1.6 TH? I have cheap electricity, no worries there. I would like step-by-step guide, please no link to Dogie's guide for noobs, his guides are a waste my time.

It seems I have to fiddle with voltage and watts and whatnot, very confusing. How do you set it up for 1.6 TH each unit? I have a bunch of 750 W Corsair modular PSUs. TIA.

Out of the box it should run close to that, it's self explanatory when you get in the web interface..
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
January 23, 2015, 10:29:38 PM
I'm going to order the 3 x SP20 bundle for $1200. One question is how do you set one up to run at 1.6 TH? I have cheap electricity, no worries there. I would like step-by-step guide, please no link to Dogie's guide for noobs, his guides are a waste my time.

It seems I have to fiddle with voltage and watts and whatnot, very confusing. How do you set it up for 1.6 TH each unit? I have a bunch of 750 W Corsair modular PSUs. TIA.
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 500
January 23, 2015, 08:55:10 PM

what does BIST stand for?

 tia

BTW I added 1 more sp20 

I now have 9 and 1 s-5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Built-in_self-test
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
January 23, 2015, 08:53:27 PM
Gotta say Im impressed w/ the latest 2.6.9 firmware. I noticed a new stat on the stats page "wall watts" ... its pretty damn close to what my killawatt measures, how the hell does the the SP20 know what the PSU is drawing from the wall? LOL that kinda baffles me....

The voltage scheduling is neat.

For future releases, I would like to see improvement in wifi compatibility, my wifi dongle which is listed as supported chipset is not detected by the SP20 =(

Also whats the 8 mean for alt-bistword? What exactly changes in BIST when using that 8?

Also, curious is there a way or will there be a way to to hand tune running parameters, such as clocks ? So I can try to squeeze every bit of extra clock at a given voltage ...

what does BIST stand for?

 tia

BTW I added 1 more sp20 

I now have 9 and 1 s-5.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1002
January 23, 2015, 08:16:31 PM
Gotta say Im impressed w/ the latest 2.6.9 firmware. I noticed a new stat on the stats page "wall watts" ... its pretty damn close to what my killawatt measures, how the hell does the the SP20 know what the PSU is drawing from the wall? LOL that kinda baffles me....

The voltage scheduling is neat.

For future releases, I would like to see improvement in wifi compatibility, my wifi dongle which is listed as supported chipset is not detected by the SP20 =(

Also whats the 8 mean for alt-bistword? What exactly changes in BIST when using that 8?

Also, curious is there a way or will there be a way to to hand tune running parameters, such as clocks ? So I can try to squeeze every bit of extra clock at a given voltage ...

I also thought that it measures it at the wall, but it is actually just a guess assuming 90% PSU effectiveness, hence I got a difference between an actual at the wall and what SP20 shows when i use bronze power supply like CX750M, but close to actual when I use Gold EVGA 1300.

Ah, well guess my PSU's are pretty damn effecient LOL ... dang I was hoping it was some sorta magic ahahah!
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