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Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative - page 215. (Read 433405 times)

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Interesting, but it also reminds me of the way the master nodes work in Dash. Differences?

As I understand it... Masternodes are basically mixer nodes, but VNL does not
employ this kind of anonymity. Also the paper cites as reference
the "transaction locking" feature that was added later to masternodes,
but the mechanism is different, as with VNL the locking happens
through synchonization of "global transaction pool".

However, the paper speaks about "storage nodes" and "slots" without
defining them. A node (an "ordinary" one, I presume) must get information
about a given transaction from a set of storage nodes before it can consider the
transaction safe to spend.

A nonprofessional in P2P technology like myself can certainly get an impression
that the storage nodes are some kind of masternodes with special functions and privileges.
But perhaps they are simply the same as full nodes in Bitcoin, ie nodes that relay and retain transactions.

The way I read it is that you are on the right track with "global transaction pool". The whole pool is a distributed p2p pool of ordinary nodes and at any one time some nodes act / emulate "super peers", "storage nodes" etc. They are not distinct or permanant entities and the roles move around between nodes as time progresses. The network as whole therefore acts as a distributed p2p application in real time and therefore is a truly distributed p2p decentralised system.
legendary
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Interesting, but it also reminds me of the way the master nodes work in Dash. Differences?

As I understand it... Masternodes are basically mixer nodes, but VNL does not
employ this kind of anonymity. Also the paper cites as reference
the "transaction locking" feature that was added later to masternodes,
but the mechanism is different, as with VNL the locking happens
through synchonization of "global transaction pool".

However, the paper speaks about "storage nodes" and "slots" without
defining them. A node (an "ordinary" one, I presume) must get information
about a given transaction from a set of storage nodes before it can consider the
transaction safe to spend.

A nonprofessional in P2P technology like myself can certainly get an impression
that the storage nodes are some kind of masternodes with special functions and privileges.
But perhaps they are simply the same as full nodes in Bitcoin, ie nodes that relay and retain transactions.
legendary
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I like Vanilla  Smiley

Me too.  I'd like it even more if I could figure out how to get MinerPP working with Cairnsmore CM1's and/or Ztex 1.15y.

Anybody here got any pointers?

You'd have to compile the .vcf as there is currently no Binfile and/or Bistream for those boards.

I'm waiting for them too
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I like Vanilla  Smiley

Me too.  I'd like it even more if I could figure out how to get MinerPP working with Cairnsmore CM1's and/or Ztex 1.15y.

Anybody here got any pointers?
legendary
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Did you read the white paper? Yes or No?

Your trying hard aren't you?

I did read the white paper, yes. To the casual observer (i.e. me), it seems that super nodes could be equivalent to master nodes in dash, and dash uses a similar transaction output locking mechanism to achieve it's 0 confirmation consensus. There is no description of their (super nodes) function in the paper.

However, I was just wondering if there are real, obvious differences which distinguish this implementation from that of Dash's.

I have put a pull request asking for more info, if that makes you happy.

Dont worry. Traumschiff fights everyone that asks questions. He dont know a shit about programming but he is an expert in it.  Grin

Yup, I can't code, but that doesn't hold me down from answering most peoples requests since 70 pages. Problem?

Oh, I remember you. This is your quote: "Its you clueless people that put up the coin in exchanges before it was ready." after c-cex lost peoples Vanillas with the 3rd corrupted wallet.
legendary
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Did you read the white paper? Yes or No?

Your trying hard aren't you?

I did read the white paper, yes. To the casual observer (i.e. me), it seems that super nodes could be equivalent to master nodes in dash, and dash uses a similar transaction output locking mechanism to achieve it's 0 confirmation consensus. There is no description of their (super nodes) function in the paper.

However, I was just wondering if there are real, obvious differences which distinguish this implementation from that of Dash's.

I have put a pull request asking for more info, if that makes you happy.

Problem is the last time you were "wondering" about an implementation I asked you atleast 2 times to jump on IRC because John is the only person who can really answer you highly technical questions. You simply skipped this (acted as nothing happened), didn't join the IRC discussion and now you jump to your next questions.

Sorry, but this attitude isn't really making me happy.
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Did you read the white paper? Yes or No?

Your trying hard aren't you?

I did read the white paper, yes. To the casual observer (i.e. me), it seems that super nodes could be equivalent to master nodes in dash, and dash uses a similar transaction output locking mechanism to achieve it's 0 confirmation consensus. There is no description of their (super nodes) function in the paper.

However, I was just wondering if there are real, obvious differences which distinguish this implementation from that of Dash's.

I have put a pull request asking for more info, if that makes you happy.

Dont worry. Traumschiff fights everyone that asks questions. He dont know a shit about programming but he is an expert in it.  Grin
legendary
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Did you read the white paper? Yes or No?

Your trying hard aren't you?

I did read the white paper, yes. To the casual observer (i.e. me), it seems that super nodes could be equivalent to master nodes in dash, and dash uses a similar transaction output locking mechanism to achieve it's 0 confirmation consensus. There is no description of their (super nodes) function in the paper.

However, I was just wondering if there are real, obvious differences which distinguish this implementation from that of Dash's.

I have put a pull request asking for more info, if that makes you happy.
legendary
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Did you read the white paper? Yes or No?



The last time you got asked to move on IRC for a discussion you dropped the subject. I really don't understand you.
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I see a blank white page and can't find VNL from the trading menu on homepage

Chinese page, i cant read  Angry
Thats chinese exchange, if you can read the digits thats enough if you dont understand chinese also Smiley Even funny in google translated page, some coins name are different than we usually hear, also coin logo so be careful while trading there lol

BTW VNL isnt listed in Jubi yet, it was somebody pranked, no real news or anything yet  Wink
thanks bro!
VNL is worth itself without some other exchanges like jubi Wink
legendary
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I see a blank white page and can't find VNL from the trading menu on homepage

Chinese page, i cant read  Angry
Thats chinese exchange, if you can read the digits thats enough if you dont understand chinese also Smiley Even funny in google translated page, some coins name are different than we usually hear, also coin logo so be careful while trading there lol

BTW VNL isnt listed in Jubi yet, it was somebody pranked, no real news or anything yet  Wink
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legendary
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Can we go on Bter?

  Cryptopia?  (need (hosted) pre-compiled linux bin)

                            - imho they're doing a gr8 job building their new exchange/mining/market place
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...... and people already sending hashes to pools with their FPGA's......


Where is this happening?  Any more info?  I haven't been on IRC in a while, I didn't know this was happening.

Where?  IRC
More info?
 - https://github.com/john-connor/fpga
 - https://github.com/cryptoflyr/whirlpool-fpga-miner
 - https://bitbucket.org/bitspill/whirlpoolminervhdl

Thanks. I appreciate it.  I've got a mojo waiting to do something.  I'm not sure how to make a miner from these repos, I guess I'll just have to jump on IRC unless someone knows of instructions somewhere.
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