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Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative - page 259. (Read 433405 times)

legendary
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News 03/30

  • Single transaction in the next update
  • Zero confirmation (sub-second) transaction afterwards, where the amount of coins is spendable again under 1 second (300ms)
  • iOS beta is completed, battery usage is too low to measure soon, soon out for download



This project is definetly better than other 99.99% of copy-past generic BTC clones.



Had a word missing there, it should be single confirmation transactions*, but yeah.

The zero transaction confirm feature will be THE real instant transaction feature, no gimmick here.
hero member
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(●´ω´●) Nil de nihilo fit
News 03/30

  • Single transaction in the next update
  • Zero confirmation (sub-second) transaction afterwards, where the amount of coins is spendable again under 1 second (300ms)
  • iOS beta is completed, battery usage is too low to measure soon, soon out for download



This project is definetly better than other 99.99% of copy-past generic BTC clones.

legendary
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Anyone knows if there's an optimised miner for NVidia GPU ?
legendary
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Zero confirmation (sub-second) transaction afterwards, where the amount of coins is spendable again under 1 second (300ms)
Interesting. Some details about it or link to the code would be handy.

Next update will have the single confirm transactions and the update after it should have the instant transactions. No code ready/public yet, but John always delivers Smiley
hero member
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Zero confirmation (sub-second) transaction afterwards, where the amount of coins is spendable again under 1 second (300ms)
Interesting. Some details about it or link to the code would be handy.
full member
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I think VNL did new updated...Hmmm improving well.good job... Smiley Smiley Wink
legendary
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What's the highest hashrate for 280x with private kernel at this time?İf it's effective possible to buy ))... i have 25 280x for gpu mining.

My miner is doing about 450 Mh/s at 1175/1025 MHz on 14.12.
But I didn't test it with 15.3 drivers yet, which are supposed to give a good boost, probably it'll reach 500.
sr. member
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What's the highest hashrate for 280x with private kernel at this time?İf it's effective possible to buy ))... i have 25 280x for gpu mining.
member
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It was only the wind.
Does not work Auto-Switching Multi-Algorithm of sgminer (https://ottrbutt.com/sgminer/whirlpoolx/win64/wolf-sgminer-whirlpoolx-03222015-win64.zip). WhirlpoolX-perfectly. Others do not work? Undecided


nope - it's just for VNL  Cool
Thank.

It's been integrated into SGMiner - troky did most of it, then I fixed his bug Tongue

Branch wolf-whirlpoolx - as of commit 1854e96a0e9f79e6dac725732f4c9931c3389f8c, it should work.

i get this with 14.7 drivers, is it normal ?

Building binary whirlpoolxTahitigw256l4.bin
Initialising kernel whirlpoolx.cl ..................
Error: clSetKernelArg of all params failed.
GPU 0 failure, disabling!


You're probably using the wrong CL file?

mmmaybe,
https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/blob/1854e96a0e9f79e6dac725732f4c9931c3389f8c/kernel/whirlpoolx.cl

which is the right one then ?

The kernel argument setting code here checks out:

https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/tree/wolf-whirlpoolx

So you must not be cloning it correctly.
member
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It was only the wind.
Does not work Auto-Switching Multi-Algorithm of sgminer (https://ottrbutt.com/sgminer/whirlpoolx/win64/wolf-sgminer-whirlpoolx-03222015-win64.zip). WhirlpoolX-perfectly. Others do not work? Undecided


nope - it's just for VNL  Cool
Thank.

It's been integrated into SGMiner - troky did most of it, then I fixed his bug Tongue

Branch wolf-whirlpoolx - as of commit 1854e96a0e9f79e6dac725732f4c9931c3389f8c, it should work.

i get this with 14.7 drivers, is it normal ?

Building binary whirlpoolxTahitigw256l4.bin
Initialising kernel whirlpoolx.cl ..................
Error: clSetKernelArg of all params failed.
GPU 0 failure, disabling!


You're probably using the wrong CL file?
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
180 BPM
News 03/30

  • Single confirmation transactions in the next update
  • Zero confirmation (sub-second) transaction afterwards (possibly next update after that), where the amount of coins is spendable again under 1 second (300ms)
  • iOS beta is completed, battery usage is too low to measure soon, soon out for download
legendary
Activity: 1498
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Why is the difficulty so low ?

Farms kicking in and out, playing with the difficulty.

The coin is great, but when farms kick in, it's pretty much their coin.

algo-wise this coin is dead, wpx icecream heats as hell now


Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized, but I wouldn't call cards running at 70C hot. Consider a better cooling and not staking tons of cards next to eachother Smiley

i mean watts per coin, cooling won't help Smiley
as you said "Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized"
let me ask then why launch a coin with new algo
so underoptimized at start and claim it energy efficient.
the story reminds me of groestlcoin


Algo isn't the only thing what is energy efficient, the whole source is. If you follow news you will see that the staking iOS and Android wallets will use ~0% cpu.

i follow only numbers, if you launch a coin with public miner at 100MH/card,
mining enough the same time with custom one at 300MH/card, sell the coins,
then everything else is just for fun


Your 300% example is quite conservative when compared to neoscrypt and it's potential 1000-2000%.

no need to compare, neo's "potential" is already cashed out, look at ftc price, now wpx turn.
it's all the same old groestl story, with variations

Please show me what groestl coins had to offer the world except a new algo and another Bitcoin clone. Point it out.

You can't even compare this project, it's codebase and the future potential of it with those.

I feel that you still talk about this project as if the only thing it would offer is a new algo and when people took their profit this would just die off, no chance that this is going to happen.

I think he means that the groestl algo is the classic example of a very slow public miner which had much faster private implementations since the beginning: coins using that algo have been mined like that for months until the profits went over and finally someone (me) released an opersource miner up to speed ;-)

He was also pointing at a project which again had nothing to offer and that caused it's slow death, the mining part in itself wasn't the main reason for that imho.
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 1002
It was only the wind.
Does not work Auto-Switching Multi-Algorithm of sgminer (https://ottrbutt.com/sgminer/whirlpoolx/win64/wolf-sgminer-whirlpoolx-03222015-win64.zip). WhirlpoolX-perfectly. Others do not work? Undecided


nope - it's just for VNL  Cool
Thank.

It's been integrated into SGMiner - troky did most of it, then I fixed his bug Tongue

Branch wolf-whirlpoolx - as of commit 1854e96a0e9f79e6dac725732f4c9931c3389f8c, it should work.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1094
Black Belt Developer
Why is the difficulty so low ?

Farms kicking in and out, playing with the difficulty.

The coin is great, but when farms kick in, it's pretty much their coin.

algo-wise this coin is dead, wpx icecream heats as hell now


Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized, but I wouldn't call cards running at 70C hot. Consider a better cooling and not staking tons of cards next to eachother Smiley

i mean watts per coin, cooling won't help Smiley
as you said "Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized"
let me ask then why launch a coin with new algo
so underoptimized at start and claim it energy efficient.
the story reminds me of groestlcoin


Algo isn't the only thing what is energy efficient, the whole source is. If you follow news you will see that the staking iOS and Android wallets will use ~0% cpu.

i follow only numbers, if you launch a coin with public miner at 100MH/card,
mining enough the same time with custom one at 300MH/card, sell the coins,
then everything else is just for fun


Your 300% example is quite conservative when compared to neoscrypt and it's potential 1000-2000%.

no need to compare, neo's "potential" is already cashed out, look at ftc price, now wpx turn.
it's all the same old groestl story, with variations

Please show me what groestl coins had to offer the world except a new algo and another Bitcoin clone. Point it out.

You can't even compare this project, it's codebase and the future potential of it with those.

I feel that you still talk about this project as if the only thing it would offer is a new algo and when people took their profit this would just die off, no chance that this is going to happen.

I think he means that the groestl algo is the classic example of a very slow public miner which had much faster private implementations since the beginning: coins using that algo have been mined like that for months until the profits went over and finally someone (me) released an opersource miner up to speed ;-)
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
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Why is the difficulty so low ?

Farms kicking in and out, playing with the difficulty.

The coin is great, but when farms kick in, it's pretty much their coin.

algo-wise this coin is dead, wpx icecream heats as hell now


Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized, but I wouldn't call cards running at 70C hot. Consider a better cooling and not staking tons of cards next to eachother Smiley

i mean watts per coin, cooling won't help Smiley
as you said "Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized"
let me ask then why launch a coin with new algo
so underoptimized at start and claim it energy efficient.
the story reminds me of groestlcoin


Algo isn't the only thing what is energy efficient, the whole source is. If you follow news you will see that the staking iOS and Android wallets will use ~0% cpu.

i follow only numbers, if you launch a coin with public miner at 100MH/card,
mining enough the same time with custom one at 300MH/card, sell the coins,
then everything else is just for fun


Your 300% example is quite conservative when compared to neoscrypt and it's potential 1000-2000%.

no need to compare, neo's "potential" is already cashed out, look at ftc price, now wpx turn.
it's all the same old groestl story, with variations

Please show me what groestl coins had to offer the world except a new algo and another Bitcoin clone. Point it out.

You can't even compare this project, it's codebase and the future potential of it with those.

I feel that you still talk about this project as if the only thing it would offer is a new algo and when people took their profit this would just die off, no chance that this is going to happen.
sr. member
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Right now at supernova, the guy with the highest hash has enough hash as adding up all the rest of the miners in the pool and that's a bummer.

Because of that, no one else could leave the pool as no other pool would get nearly as many blocks, and like they say, more than 50% of hash at just one pool can kill the coin.

And I'm actually doing the opposite of what you said, by actually selling this coin and buying something that I consider a little more valuable for the future.
1. The "guy with the highest hash" rents his/her hash power with real $$$, anyone can do the same.
2. 50% at a single pool cannot kill the coin, neither can 99% since most blocks are Proof-of-Stake as can be seen in the block explorer.

Thank you for your support.
legendary
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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.
Why is the difficulty so low ?

Farms kicking in and out, playing with the difficulty.

The coin is great, but when farms kick in, it's pretty much their coin.

algo-wise this coin is dead, wpx icecream heats as hell now


Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized, but I wouldn't call cards running at 70C hot. Consider a better cooling and not staking tons of cards next to eachother Smiley

i mean watts per coin, cooling won't help Smiley
as you said "Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized"
let me ask then why launch a coin with new algo
so underoptimized at start and claim it energy efficient.
the story reminds me of groestlcoin


Algo isn't the only thing what is energy efficient, the whole source is. If you follow news you will see that the staking iOS and Android wallets will use ~0% cpu.

i follow only numbers, if you launch a coin with public miner at 100MH/card,
mining enough the same time with custom one at 300MH/card, sell the coins,
then everything else is just for fun


Your 300% example is quite conservative when compared to neoscrypt and it's potential 1000-2000%.
legendary
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460 GHs and 22k diff, should be a new high

Edit: Jumped to 636 GH/s
legendary
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Why is the difficulty so low ?

Farms kicking in and out, playing with the difficulty.

The coin is great, but when farms kick in, it's pretty much their coin.

That is what they think, but this isn't accurate. Difficulty isn't the only thing moving here, but blocktimes. Jumping on an off with a huge hash won't get them any advantage here, read about the difficulty retargeting in the OP and in the whitepaper.

I know what you're saying, but the longer block times still doesn't really help us smaller miners.

But it causes problems for pool hoppers, which on the long run should demotivate them. The coin launched with a long solo mining phase which was well announced previously, that was perfect for smaller miners, currently with this price level it is clear that people with 1-2 gpu's and higher electricity costs will not profit from mining here. Either you mine because you believe in this, or mine something more profitable and buy VNLs from BTC earned elsewhere.

Ofcourse if you are a developer and can further optimize your miners like Wolf0 can, you could still potentially profit (not much), but honestly the price is 2 low currently compared to what the coin will offer in the future.

We simply have no hype and also don't intend to cause huge hype waves since we still consider this a beta.

I think the coin is still profitable with two bigger AMD cards, but what I feel like is that either the pool operators or the algo itself should make some implementation as to how many mh/s can technically be allowed from one ip/user/account as to make it fair game. Right now at supernova, the guy with the highest hash has enough hash as adding up all the rest of the miners in the pool and that's a bummer.

Because of that, no one else could leave the pool as no other pool would get nearly as many blocks, and like they say, more than 50% of hash at just one pool can kill the coin.

This is all the stuff that we already know. As far as miners go, it's all a dev's game that even make coins mineable. AMD from what I see, has more dev's and better support in their miners, compared to Nvidia, even though the Maxwell architecture is far for better per watt. And just like you said, my partially optimized whirlpoolx miner by sp and others e.g. gives me 292 mh/s @ OC'ed 980 at temps peaking at 37C, while taking just 60% of the overall TDP. Meaning that while it can go further, we just need more support.

And I'm actually doing the opposite of what you said, by actually selling this coin and buying something that I consider a little more valuable for the future.

Your asking the coin to be fair while we had the possibility to solo mine this coin for 2 months with a dualcore cpu and get blocks on a daily basis. I solo mined it with home desktops and could mine around 15k coins, so could 100-200 other people who followed the initial BCT announcement and the vanillacoin.net forums.

The next mining phase is the gpu mining phase, you can't limit it without pushing away bigger investors. Everyone had/will have their chance at mining, from the smallest investors to the biggest, this is as fair as it gets.

Regarding your investing, do your own research and do as you wish, but I doubt that you see a lot of better technological investments in crypto if you read the source and follow what John is doing and saying. I know part of what is planned here, and this isn't your avarage PnD crypto.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
180 BPM
Why is the difficulty so low ?

Farms kicking in and out, playing with the difficulty.

The coin is great, but when farms kick in, it's pretty much their coin.

algo-wise this coin is dead, wpx icecream heats as hell now


Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized, but I wouldn't call cards running at 70C hot. Consider a better cooling and not staking tons of cards next to eachother Smiley

i mean watts per coin, cooling won't help Smiley
as you said "Every algo will produce heat when fully optimized"
let me ask then why launch a coin with new algo
so underoptimized at start and claim it energy efficient.
the story reminds me of groestlcoin


Algo isn't the only thing what is energy efficient, the whole source is. If you follow news you will see that the staking iOS and Android wallets will use ~0% cpu.
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