That truth has proven to be false for 99% of alts
True, because most alts are shitty clones and made for quick p&d's.
Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative - page 60. (Read 433405 times)
October 28, 2015, 04:19:42 AM
True, because most alts are shitty clones and made for quick p&d's.
October 28, 2015, 04:15:14 AM
Cheap vnl i`m buying more for the future investments 
October 28, 2015, 04:08:12 AM
unless you like losing money.
You only lose money when you sell it. If you have faith, you never lose.
That truth has proven to be false for 99% of alts.
October 28, 2015, 03:52:51 AM
unless you like losing money.
You only lose money when you sell it. If you have faith, you never lose.
October 28, 2015, 03:43:41 AM
I agree with most what you say, but this makes no sense at all (unless you bought in again after the price drop of course)
Regards
Goldmaxx
Regards
Goldmaxx
October 28, 2015, 03:09:11 AM
~8750 is VNL floor (per all time chart). BTC most likely dump ~307. Alternatives will rally. 
Thank you for your support.
Thank you for your support.
The time for suggesting there is a floor is over. The price now is a disgrace to the community if you guys actually had any shame. Way to go to kill a great tech. Slow hand clap.
I like it how you opened 10s of VNL hype threads here on BCT when the price was right for you or rising, but now that the price is lower you saying we are doomed. Not everyone is a daytrader or a short-term investor. Most successful tech companies/projects needed years to rise. This is no different. I have time to support someting that I feel will make the change within this area.
So my comments were what they were. I came into the coin looking for something worth investing in.....and it is.....but the the price is so far from what the tech deserves then the only criticism has to go to the the communities stubborn behaviour.
Judging by your past posts I assume you are accusing the VNL community of being stubborn because you want an audit of the code to see if it's a peercoin or XBT clone. Well guess what? It's not VNL's duty to request one. Real audits are done by third parties when really needed, eg Truecrypt audit https://opencryptoaudit.org/
No you're wrong I 'wanted' the community to arrange an audit of the code for MY sake and YOUR sake. Now thankfully I sold when I realised the community have their head in the sand. Maybe I'll buy in later when you have hit rock bottom, but i would personally buy cautiously. This community is gonna find out the hard way the best tech doesn't win but the most popular tech wins. Popularity needs people....
You sold on your doubts dude, don't blame community for that. Oh, yes it's easier to live when you can blame someone else.
What? I sold cause I saw the price dropping.....which it did. As a day traders pump and dump it would be great....I'm more into long term investments which a VNL has yet to prove itself as one.....unless you like losing money.
October 27, 2015, 02:47:20 PM
What happened to the money for VNL from the Angel Investor (john-connor, which he came out and said he was so it wasn't a mystery anymore)
Even with Bittrex as the 2nd exchange there was a lot more BTC in buys on Poloniex until they just disappeared.
Has john lost interest ? As everything he seems to do to VNL with a new update just decreases the price....
Where's all the VNL banter & talk ? I remember it was everywhere, better than Dash with all its features & built different to Bitcoin.
Lies ? Lack of interest ? FUD ? Shakeout ? Whales/Big Players ?
You obviously do not watch Github. Bitcoin is on a run, alternative crypto interest is currently at a low. It comes in cycles. Wait until Bitcoin dumps. Besides, not even a year from launch, long term... Even with Bittrex as the 2nd exchange there was a lot more BTC in buys on Poloniex until they just disappeared.
Has john lost interest ? As everything he seems to do to VNL with a new update just decreases the price....
Where's all the VNL banter & talk ? I remember it was everywhere, better than Dash with all its features & built different to Bitcoin.
Lies ? Lack of interest ? FUD ? Shakeout ? Whales/Big Players ?
Thank you for your support.
Fully agree, investing in a tech project for 10 months can't even be considered long-term. I know that you will keep supporting your project for a long time and that you have awesome developments/feature coming. I can't consider this just another altcoin.
October 27, 2015, 09:24:57 AM
just used the lock option on coins coming to my wallet for the first time.... booyah, what a nice feature
October 27, 2015, 04:52:14 AM
My first staking was about 70hours later
Because i did the transaction of the coins into a big amount, then it takes time to stake.
If you want to stake fast, do transactions of less than 250coins.
Stake works fine.
It will take around 8 hours minimum age to stake. Everything you need to know is in the OP.
It's been more than 48 hours now but i only have 700 Vnl in the wallet now left the rest of it on exchange .Had to move them over to exchange i had something go haywire on my pc all of my wallets were showing a balance of 0 and no transaction history think i might have installed a bad wallet while mining Lunarcoin .So i restored wallet from back up and sent them all to exchange and just stared moving my coins back from exchange
I just did one transaction of 700 Vnl for now to see if anything happens with the wallet .Still have 8000 vnl sitting on Poloniex just to be safe. Because i did the transaction of the coins into a big amount, then it takes time to stake.
If you want to stake fast, do transactions of less than 250coins.
Stake works fine.
How much time does it usually take to get any POS after depositing Vnl into your wallet and leaving it unlocked for staking
It will take around 8 hours minimum age to stake. Everything you need to know is in the OP.
Thanks for your help
October 27, 2015, 04:44:24 AM
My first staking was about 70hours later
Because i did the transaction of the coins into a big amount, then it takes time to stake.
If you want to stake fast, do transactions of less than 250coins.
Stake works fine.
It will take around 8 hours minimum age to stake. Everything you need to know is in the OP.
It's been more than 48 hours now but i only have 700 Vnl in the wallet now left the rest of it on exchange .Had to move them over to exchange i had something go haywire on my pc all of my wallets were showing a balance of 0 and no transaction history think i might have installed a bad wallet while mining Lunarcoin .So i restored wallet from back up and sent them all to exchange and just stared moving my coins back from exchange
Because i did the transaction of the coins into a big amount, then it takes time to stake.
If you want to stake fast, do transactions of less than 250coins.
Stake works fine.
How much time does it usually take to get any POS after depositing Vnl into your wallet and leaving it unlocked for staking
It will take around 8 hours minimum age to stake. Everything you need to know is in the OP.
October 27, 2015, 04:35:47 AM
How much time does it usually take to get any POS after depositing Vnl into your wallet and leaving it unlocked for staking
It will take around 8 hours minimum age to stake. Everything you need to know is in the OP.
October 27, 2015, 03:20:49 AM
~8750 is VNL floor (per all time chart). BTC most likely dump ~307. Alternatives will rally.
Thank you for your support.
Thank you for your support.
The time for suggesting there is a floor is over. The price now is a disgrace to the community if you guys actually had any shame. Way to go to kill a great tech. Slow hand clap.
I like it how you opened 10s of VNL hype threads here on BCT when the price was right for you or rising, but now that the price is lower you saying we are doomed. Not everyone is a daytrader or a short-term investor. Most successful tech companies/projects needed years to rise. This is no different. I have time to support someting that I feel will make the change within this area.
So my comments were what they were. I came into the coin looking for something worth investing in.....and it is.....but the the price is so far from what the tech deserves then the only criticism has to go to the the communities stubborn behaviour.
Judging by your past posts I assume you are accusing the VNL community of being stubborn because you want an audit of the code to see if it's a peercoin or XBT clone. Well guess what? It's not VNL's duty to request one. Real audits are done by third parties when really needed, eg Truecrypt audit https://opencryptoaudit.org/
No you're wrong I 'wanted' the community to arrange an audit of the code for MY sake and YOUR sake. Now thankfully I sold when I realised the community have their head in the sand. Maybe I'll buy in later when you have hit rock bottom, but i would personally buy cautiously. This community is gonna find out the hard way the best tech doesn't win but the most popular tech wins. Popularity needs people....
You sold on your doubts dude, don't blame community for that. Oh, yes it's easier to live when you can blame someone else.
October 27, 2015, 02:37:10 AM
What happened to the money for VNL from the Angel Investor (john-connor, which he came out and said he was so it wasn't a mystery anymore)
Even with Bittrex as the 2nd exchange there was a lot more BTC in buys on Poloniex until they just disappeared.
Has john lost interest ? As everything he seems to do to VNL with a new update just decreases the price....
Where's all the VNL banter & talk ? I remember it was everywhere, better than Dash with all its features & built different to Bitcoin.
Lies ? Lack of interest ? FUD ? Shakeout ? Whales/Big Players ?
You obviously do not watch Github. Bitcoin is on a run, alternative crypto interest is currently at a low. It comes in cycles. Wait until Bitcoin dumps. Besides, not even a year from launch, long term... Even with Bittrex as the 2nd exchange there was a lot more BTC in buys on Poloniex until they just disappeared.
Has john lost interest ? As everything he seems to do to VNL with a new update just decreases the price....
Where's all the VNL banter & talk ? I remember it was everywhere, better than Dash with all its features & built different to Bitcoin.
Lies ? Lack of interest ? FUD ? Shakeout ? Whales/Big Players ?
Thank you for your support.
October 27, 2015, 02:28:25 AM
What happened to the money for VNL from the Angel Investor (john-connor, which he came out and said he was so it wasn't a mystery anymore)
Even with Bittrex as the 2nd exchange there was a lot more BTC in buys on Poloniex until they just disappeared.
Has john lost interest ? As everything he seems to do to VNL with a new update just decreases the price....
Where's all the VNL banter & talk ? I remember it was everywhere, better than Dash with all its features & built different to Bitcoin.
Lies ? Lack of interest ? FUD ? Shakeout ? Whales/Big Players ?
Even with Bittrex as the 2nd exchange there was a lot more BTC in buys on Poloniex until they just disappeared.
Has john lost interest ? As everything he seems to do to VNL with a new update just decreases the price....
Where's all the VNL banter & talk ? I remember it was everywhere, better than Dash with all its features & built different to Bitcoin.
Lies ? Lack of interest ? FUD ? Shakeout ? Whales/Big Players ?
October 27, 2015, 02:19:16 AM
How much time does it usually take to get any POS after depositing Vnl into your wallet and leaving it unlocked for staking
It will take around 8 hours minimum age to stake. Everything you need to know is in the OP.
October 27, 2015, 12:34:34 AM
How much time does it usually take to get any POS after depositing Vnl into your wallet and leaving it unlocked for staking
October 26, 2015, 08:44:41 PM
I had my personal "review" with people who are able to read code. I don't need some cheap review from an unkown and untrusted BTT member with possibly an agenda towards his/her own project or for someone who pays more. Proper and trusted reviews from outside BTT needs a lot more $ than what we could crowdfund with the current prices and market and that's why we need additional features and publicity first.
You are no more than a daytrader mate and don't tell me you are a long-term investor, because you just sold with 0 negative news.
Their code audit idea is a scam against VNL to get some "in bed" person to give a negative opinion. One of the audit's was done by a trusted 3rd party (Poloniex). They even contributed code after the audit was completed so we know it was thorough and done by very skilled people. Afterwards they setup single confirmation deposits based on the code review and then adopted ZeroTime technology. If the trolls persist then they will need to man up and find a trusted 3rd party company approved to review my code and pay for it (about 10K-60K USD total depending).You are no more than a daytrader mate and don't tell me you are a long-term investor, because you just sold with 0 negative news.
Thank you for your support.
It's not abandoned, but his time is better spent coding. Announcements can be made on many channels. If you have questions, there are still plenty of people in IRC who will try to help.
Yes, I can confirm that.
October 26, 2015, 05:00:24 PM
I had my personal "review" with people who are able to read code. I don't need some cheap review from an unkown and untrusted BTT member with possibly an agenda towards his/her own project or for someone who pays more. Proper and trusted reviews from outside BTT needs a lot more $ than what we could crowdfund with the current prices and market and that's why we need additional features and publicity first.
You are no more than a daytrader mate and don't tell me you are a long-term investor, because you just sold with 0 negative news.
Their code audit idea is a scam against VNL to get some "in bed" person to give a negative opinion. One of the audit's was done by a trusted 3rd party (Poloniex). They even contributed code after the audit was completed so we know it was thorough and done by very skilled people. Afterwards they setup single confirmation deposits based on the code review and then adopted ZeroTime technology. If the trolls persist then they will need to man up and find a trusted 3rd party company approved to review my code and pay for it (about 10K-60K USD total depending).You are no more than a daytrader mate and don't tell me you are a long-term investor, because you just sold with 0 negative news.
Thank you for your support.
It's not abandoned, but his time is better spent coding. Announcements can be made on many channels. If you have questions, there are still plenty of people in IRC who will try to help.
October 26, 2015, 04:30:41 PM
I had my personal "review" with people who are able to read code. I don't need some cheap review from an unkown and untrusted BTT member with possibly an agenda towards his/her own project or for someone who pays more. Proper and trusted reviews from outside BTT needs a lot more $ than what we could crowdfund with the current prices and market and that's why we need additional features and publicity first.
You are no more than a daytrader mate and don't tell me you are a long-term investor, because you just sold with 0 negative news.
Their code audit idea is a scam against VNL to get some "in bed" person to give a negative opinion. One of the audit's was done by a trusted 3rd party (Poloniex). They even contributed code after the audit was completed so we know it was thorough and done by very skilled people. Afterwards they setup single confirmation deposits based on the code review and then adopted ZeroTime technology. If the trolls persist then they will need to man up and find a trusted 3rd party company approved to review my code and pay for it (about 10K-60K USD total depending).You are no more than a daytrader mate and don't tell me you are a long-term investor, because you just sold with 0 negative news.
Thank you for your support.
October 26, 2015, 04:14:17 PM
I had my personal "review" with people who are able to read code. I don't need some cheap review from an unkown and untrusted BTT member with possibly an agenda towards his/her own project or for someone who pays more. Proper and trusted reviews from outside BTT needs a lot more $ than what we could crowdfund with the current prices and market and that's why we need additional features and publicity first.
You are no more than a daytrader mate and don't tell me you are a long-term investor, because you just sold with 0 negative news.
Their code audit idea is a scam against VNL to get some "in bed" person to give a negative opinion. One of the audit's was done by a trusted 3rd party (Poloniex). They even contributed code after the audit was completed so we know it was thorough and done by very skilled people. Afterwards they setup single confirmation deposits based on the code review and then adopted ZeroTime technology. If the trolls persist then they will need to man up and find a trusted 3rd party company approved to review my code and pay for it (about 10K-60K USD total depending).You are no more than a daytrader mate and don't tell me you are a long-term investor, because you just sold with 0 negative news.
Thank you for your support.
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