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full member
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Who can explain to me why some windows pc does not start VNL wallet?

Do you have the last wallet ? http://vanillacoin.net/wallets.php
What Windows ? give us some details ... screen shot of the error ... the debug log ?
Join #vanillacoin on irc and ask for help https://kiwiirc.com/client
hero member
Activity: 611
Merit: 500
Why would my last two deposits sent from supernova  not show up in my wallet but shows up on Block Explorer .The first deposit was from 2015-10-22 11:16:33 and the second one from 2015-10-23 13:51:04 neither one has showed up in my wallet yet .
legendary
Activity: 1354
Merit: 1000
Who can explain to me why some windows pc does not start VNL wallet?
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1012
CHEAP NODES !!!  Grin

lalalalavanilla
no way this low price can sustain, too many people ready to buy the shit out of it
maybe a flash crash attempt who knows but i'll be there to collect Smiley
lalalalavanilla
only 20k coins mined each day even a hobo can buy the daily supply at these low prices Smiley
lalalalavanilla
me deploying nodes

 Shocked

Are you high on Vanilla?  Wink Cheesy Grin

yeah ate my vanilla shampoo this morning  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 894
Merit: 1000
CHEAP NODES !!!  Grin

lalalalavanilla
no way this low price can sustain, too many people ready to buy the shit out of it
maybe a flash crash attempt who knows but i'll be there to collect Smiley
lalalalavanilla
only 20k coins mined each day even a hobo can buy the daily supply at these low prices Smiley
lalalalavanilla
me deploying nodes

 Shocked

Are you high on Vanilla?  Wink Cheesy Grin
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1012
CHEAP NODES !!!  Grin

lalalalavanilla
no way this low price can sustain, too many people ready to buy the shit out of it
maybe a flash crash attempt who knows but i'll be there to collect Smiley
lalalalavanilla
only 20k coins mined each day even a hobo can buy the daily supply at these low prices Smiley
lalalalavanilla
me deploying nodes

 Shocked
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1018
I probably have nowhere within 500 miles of me to spend bitcoin either, but I can and do buy anything I want with bitcoin via Amazon/Purse,
and it saves me a lot of money. Of course there is also Dell, Virgin, Microsoft, Tigerdirect, Newegg, and Overstock.com, but I prefer to buy or
mine btc and then buy whatever I want at 20-30% off fiat price via Purse. I really think it is a killer app for btc, see my sig.

Not sure if this is worth it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2po40d/since_my_house_is_being_searched_right_now_small/

even though they offer http://www.coindesk.com/purse-io-offers-10000-cover-to-users/

So you've never had any problems ordering through them?

Maybe their system is better now, but I've never used them.
Yeah I heard about that. One guy in Germany and there was more to the story. No one has had a problem ever since. There was a recent email hack and if you didn't use 2FA a few people lost 10 btc, but Purse instantly made it right. No more growing pains than any new btc company, and I have never had anything but good experiences with it.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
I probably have nowhere within 500 miles of me to spend bitcoin either, but I can and do buy anything I want with bitcoin via Amazon/Purse,
and it saves me a lot of money. Of course there is also Dell, Virgin, Microsoft, Tigerdirect, Newegg, and Overstock.com, but I prefer to buy or
mine btc and then buy whatever I want at 20-30% off fiat price via Purse. I really think it is a killer app for btc, see my sig.

Not sure if this is worth it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2po40d/since_my_house_is_being_searched_right_now_small/

even though they offer http://www.coindesk.com/purse-io-offers-10000-cover-to-users/

So you've never had any problems ordering through them?

Maybe their system is better now, but I've never used them.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1018
I probably have nowhere within 500 miles of me to spend bitcoin either, but I can and do buy anything I want with bitcoin via Amazon/Purse,
and it saves me a lot of money. Of course there is also Dell, Virgin, Microsoft, Tigerdirect, Newegg, and Overstock.com, but I prefer to buy or
mine btc and then buy whatever I want at 20-30% off fiat price via Purse. I really think it is a killer app for btc, see my sig.
sr. member
Activity: 596
Merit: 251
The 'old world' of altcoins is dead. It died with Mintpal and the scams that preceeded it. It also died with the knowledge that bitcoin wasn't being mass adopted it was being mass manipulated. We will thus see all good alts undervalue before the next boom cycle.

VNL is probably the first 'new world' alts I have bought.
Spot on, some new "new world" alts would be interesting. I laugh when people claim BTC has "mass adoption" because I myself cannot use it (in person) within 500 miles of where I currently reside. These people must think everybody lives in the San Francisco Bay area. It will be interesting watching the "old world" try to deal with scalability now that their blockchains have grown and the problems are creeping up. I suspect most coins will become abandoned seeing majority of all crypto-currency developers are not qualified programmers much less have the skills to make unscalable code scalable. Cool

Thank you for your support.
sr. member
Activity: 596
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But nowadays altcoins seem to retain their fiat price when BTC rises rather than rising with it like before.
This can be true only if (1) BTC rises enough and (2) the specific crypto doesn't drop too much. This current BTC rise will not last long, the BTC dump is on the horizon as everybody spends their profits for the holiday season and then it will flow back into alternatives on it's way back down to the 200 USD levels. Cool

Thank you for your support.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
The 'old world' of altcoins is dead. It died with Mintpal and the scams that preceeded it. It also died with the knowledge that bitcoin wasn't being mass adopted it was being mass manipulated. We will thus see all good alts undervalue before the next boom cycle.

VNL is probably the first 'new world' alts I have bought.
hero member
Activity: 690
Merit: 500
Usually I don't post things like this but VNL and Peercoin are similar in some way. Both are not clones of Bitcoin. Market conditions were totally different, that's probably why VNL is now ~10x cheaper than Peercoin at that moment.

I'd like to add that November 2013 was a "special" time - the time of Bitcoin bubble. So the Peercoin rise is most likely caused by it, as the rise of many alts at that time. But nowadays altcoins seem to retain their fiat price when BTC rises rather than rising with it like before.
sr. member
Activity: 596
Merit: 251
That's because, with few exceptions, most other altcoins only offer gimmicks.  The sole purpose of their creation was to make the creator, or those who paid the creator, money.

John is trying to build VNL into a scalable, decentralized currency that won't have to centralize in the future.  Again, Bitcoin will most likely have to centralize over the next few decades for a variety of reasons.

Also, Dash hit almost $70 million when the vast majority of Dash coins that were mined, were instamined.  That means with 22 million total coins, Dash had launched for 6 months and had a future valuation of $350 million with Evan owning maybe a third or more of that.  Dash obviously had to crash hard at some point.

I guess VNL was pumped to $1.5 million, but even at $1.5 million, VNL still deserved to be worth more than the vast majority of coins that had a higher market cap.  It's just that not enough people realize what VNL is offering yet.
99% of altcoins cannot scale long term. This means VNL has a 99% chance at beating all but 1% of them by doing absolutely nothing to the code. For instance, XMR is currently seeing it's death with a 4+ GB in-memory blockchain and zero scalability built into the network. In the next year we will see judgement day. Cool

Thank you for your support.
sr. member
Activity: 596
Merit: 251
Usually I don't post things like this but VNL and Peercoin are similar in some way. Both are not clones of Bitcoin. Market conditions were totally different, that's probably why VNL is now ~10x cheaper than Peercoin at that moment.



UPDATE


These are charts (facts ) I can agree with. Cool

Thank you for your support.
legendary
Activity: 896
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What other shitcoins market's do does not pertain to VNL. Your correlation theory doesn't compute. Use the Dash chart as a perfect example to understand your flaws. Cool

Thank you for your support.

I'd disagree with that. As far as I've seen most crypto performs similar on the market. Coins with superior tech usually stand out by three things:

- higher volume
- not getting abandoned and delisted from exchanges
- possible pumps long after the first big pump (usually smaller)

Otherwise their charts look pretty much the same. And Dash you mentioned is a perfect example: they have the same speculative pump-and-dump rollercoaster as most crypto does, only it had happened twice already.
I disagree because you come without facts (links to prove your theory). On the other hand VNL is only 10 months old. Come back in a year and see. Cool

Thank you for your support.

So as you do. Do you want a link to every single altcoin chart? Or a link to Dash chart? Or a link to VNL chart?

To be clear I'm not preaching against VNL here. I'm just saying that altcoin market has its own ways.

That's because, with few exceptions, most other altcoins only offer gimmicks.  The sole purpose of their creation was to make the creator, or those who paid the creator, money.

John is trying to build VNL into a scalable, decentralized currency that won't have to centralize in the future.  Again, Bitcoin will most likely have to centralize over the next few decades for a variety of reasons.

Also, Dash hit almost $70 million when the vast majority of Dash coins that were mined, were instamined.  That means with 22 million total coins, Dash had launched for 6 months and had a future valuation of $350 million.  Dash obviously had to crash hard at some point.

I guess VNL was pumped to $1.5 million, but even at $1.5 million, VNL still deserved to be worth more than the vast majority of coins that had a higher market cap.  It's just that not enough people realize what VNL is offering yet.
sr. member
Activity: 596
Merit: 251
To be clear I'm not preaching against VNL here. I'm just saying that altcoin market has its own ways.
I'm not selling a single VNL. Good luck on your quest. Cool

Thank you for your support.
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1000
Interesting.. lets see that Smiley
hero member
Activity: 613
Merit: 501
Usually I don't post things like this but VNL and Peercoin are similar in some way. Both are not clones of Bitcoin. Market conditions were totally different, that's probably why VNL is now ~10x cheaper than Peercoin at that moment.



UPDATE

hero member
Activity: 690
Merit: 500
What other shitcoins market's do does not pertain to VNL. Your correlation theory doesn't compute. Use the Dash chart as a perfect example to understand your flaws. Cool

Thank you for your support.

I'd disagree with that. As far as I've seen most crypto performs similar on the market. Coins with superior tech usually stand out by three things:

- higher volume
- not getting abandoned and delisted from exchanges
- possible pumps long after the first big pump (usually smaller)

Otherwise their charts look pretty much the same. And Dash you mentioned is a perfect example: they have the same speculative pump-and-dump rollercoaster as most crypto does, only it had happened twice already.
I disagree because you come without facts (links to prove your theory). On the other hand VNL is only 10 months old. Come back in a year and see. Cool

Thank you for your support.

So as you do. Do you want a link to every single altcoin chart? Or a link to Dash chart? Or a link to VNL chart?

To be clear I'm not preaching against VNL here. I'm just saying that altcoin market has its own ways.
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