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Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative - page 7. (Read 433438 times)

legendary
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Why this coin is not with the other big coin projects? technically is amazing, is fast and eficient, distribution was fair, why is community so small then?

That's the million dollar question. I've been wondering that for so long. My guess is the reason being that crypto doesn't currently move because of real work or innovation, but because of hype, fad and manipulation. If you like the coin, you are welcome to become an investor Smiley

Factom is the best example right now.
hero member
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I do think chainblender could bring some more awareness to VNL.  We'll see.

the 8btc buy support is a little unsettling, perhaps because of the delays.


will we see a better price, before real world adoption?


without getting into specifics and techy details, all we have is a bitcoin semi-clone with a fast transactions, its how this can be used in real world, will determine the real price.

You could spend all your time suping up a car, adding larger engine, lighter weight and bigger turbos, but at the end of the day, without a direction to drive, its just a waste of time and money.

we need a clear direction and path.

I see it a slightly different way.

Any serious investor in Crypto will invest in BTC because this is the only likely cryto to be the first mass-adopted currency. It already supports a mining and exchange industry.

Speculating on a coin like VNL at this point in time is speculating on 1 of 2 things.

1: Pump scenario
Like any fad coin or marketed coin. We already know this is not the mandate of the development team, so you'd have to be stupid to be investing/speculating in this scenario. We may be lucky and some entity believes they can mimic the outcomes of DASH & ETH, but again the odds are against us here at this point in time.

2: Mass adoption scenario
Bitcoin further succeeds and adopters willingly seek more robust alternatives. This is not currently happening but this is where the development team is positioning itself.

My main questions to John C are: How long are you willing to stick with this project, and what would make you give up on it? This is as much transparancy I can ask for to protect my investment.
legendary
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I do think chainblender could bring some more awareness to VNL.  We'll see.

the 8btc buy support is a little unsettling, perhaps because of the delays.


will we see a better price, before real world adoption?


without getting into specifics and techy details, all we have is a bitcoin semi-clone with a fast transactions, its how this can be used in real world, will determine the real price.

You could spend all your time suping up a car, adding larger engine, lighter weight and bigger turbos, but at the end of the day, without a direction to drive, its just a waste of time and money.

we need a clear direction and path.

Figuring out how to do zero conf transactions is a MAJOR problem Bitcoin is trying to come up with (centralized) solutions for.  Bitcoin also is trying to decide whether to raise block size and is having problems with that.

Right now, the VNL network can process 100 transactions/second on-chain (15x BTC) and 15,000 tx/sec off-chain (3x Visa's daily peak tx rate)

The purpose is to be the decentralized alternative to Bitcoin, while Bitcoin will continue to centralize.  Also, anonymity might attract others.

Of course, ultimately you're correct.  People need a reason to buy the coin.  For now, the reason is speculation, like all other crypto, and to be part of something that might revolutionize how payments are made/funds are transferred/how we connect.  And again, there's no real reason to hold dash, yet it's market cap is 30x ours.
full member
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I do think chainblender could bring some more awareness to VNL.  We'll see.

the 8btc buy support is a little unsettling, perhaps because of the delays.


will we see a better price, before real world adoption?


without getting into specifics and techy details, all we have is a bitcoin semi-clone with a fast transactions, its how this can be used in real world, will determine the real price.

You could spend all your time suping up a car, adding larger engine, lighter weight and bigger turbos, but at the end of the day, without a direction to drive, its just a waste of time and money.

we need a clear direction and path.
legendary
Activity: 896
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I do think chainblender could bring some more awareness to VNL.  We'll see.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
Why this coin is not with the other big coin projects? technically is amazing, is fast and eficient, distribution was fair, why is community so small then?

That's the million dollar question. I've been wondering that for so long. My guess is the reason being that crypto doesn't currently move because of real work or innovation, but because of hype, fad and manipulation. If you like the coin, you are welcome to become an investor Smiley

To simplify, there are no pumpers here and no one faking large volume.  Rising prices cause excitement and fear of being left behind (happens less now than a year or two ago) and volume gets coins to the top of Poloniex, etc.  We're not paying to be in any articles either, but I'm not sure exactly how much that helps, aside from the Forbes and Reason articles on ETH.

Also, the community isn't that small.  We have 90+ IRC members in the channel at the same time, john's tweets get retweeted way more than any other altcoin dev's tweets aside from ethereum, and a large amount of senior member+ bitcointalk members post in here.  A half-million dollar market cap (#56) is nothing to sneeze at, but we should be competing with Dash, which is 30x (3000%) higher.
legendary
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Why this coin is not with the other big coin projects? technically is amazing, is fast and eficient, distribution was fair, why is community so small then?


No marketing,mouth to ears.... Habitually its the best investment Wink
legendary
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Why this coin is not with the other big coin projects? technically is amazing, is fast and eficient, distribution was fair, why is community so small then?
sr. member
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ive gotten 15 rewards over the last 6 days
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo
retweet:

https://twitter.com/moneyisdigital/status/678600809899237378

@ErikVoorhees @ShapeShift_io Why haven't you added the only altcoin that only needs 1 conf on @Poloniex? Means Polo judges it the safest alt

you forgot to say that the coin is vanilla.
He may think that you're talking about viacoin, the logo is the same.

They can see from my profile and they were looking at VNL in the past when we had more volume.

Feel free to tweet them or others anything you want, the way you want to say it.  If you tweet at them and mention another feature, that might even be better at getting their attention.

i did, thanks


excuse me, but how often is the reward paid out for supernodes?

It can fluctuate between as low as 0 and as high as ?  .  I have seen 4 on a "lucky" day.

i already got 9
legendary
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excuse me, but how often is the reward paid out for supernodes?

You should avg around 1 - 2 per day across your nodes, but look at your rewards over a month.  One day you might get 0, the next you might get 5.
hero member
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excuse me, but how often is the reward paid out for supernodes?

you can go days without and then have multiples in one, there's no specific structure..
legendary
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🚀🚀 ATHERO.IO 🚀🚀
well bitcoin is starting to fall, wel see btc heading towards altcoins now lucky guys who got dumped on should see easy profit
legendary
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excuse me, but how often is the reward paid out for supernodes?

It can fluctuate between as low as 0 and as high as ?  .  I have seen 4 on a "lucky" day.
legendary
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retweet:

https://twitter.com/moneyisdigital/status/678600809899237378

@ErikVoorhees @ShapeShift_io Why haven't you added the only altcoin that only needs 1 conf on @Poloniex? Means Polo judges it the safest alt

you forgot to say that the coin is vanilla.
He may think that you're talking about viacoin, the logo is the same.

They can see from my profile and they were looking at VNL in the past when we had more volume.

Feel free to tweet them or others anything you want, the way you want to say it.  If you tweet at them and mention another feature, that might even be better at getting their attention.
legendary
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=== NODE IS OK! ==
excuse me, but how often is the reward paid out for supernodes?
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1028
#mitandopelomundo
retweet:

https://twitter.com/moneyisdigital/status/678600809899237378

@ErikVoorhees @ShapeShift_io Why haven't you added the only altcoin that only needs 1 conf on @Poloniex? Means Polo judges it the safest alt

you forgot to say that the coin is vanilla.
He may think that you're talking about viacoin, the logo is the same.
legendary
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I dont see there being a problem running two threads, as long as people know that this is the thread for speculation, and a mix of informal information/disinformation.
people should go to vanillacoin.net and the official forum to find out about releases.

We should understand John's concerns. Much of the contents in this thread can only discourage serious investors. Just have a look at those trolls repeating over and over again the same nonsense. We shouldn't also expect John to waste his precious time here to fight that FUD. He has lots of real work to do, and fudders would use his absence to FUD even harder. Maybe some of us in crypto are unfortunately used to all this, but normal people wouldn't put their hard earned money on VNL after seeing this thread. We need a real constructive and informative forum, and that seems almost impossible at BCT.
My post is not against all people that have contributed to this thread. I want to thank all of them and specially to traumschiff for their time and work.

That is definitely a good point if he's pitching it to big investors, but as far as the average crypto user goes, I think this thread is a plus.

If we had a ton of advertising all over, killing this thread would definitely be a plus as very few on bitcointalk have any idea what they're talking about; but with no advertising, this thread gives us some exposure.
sr. member
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I dont see there being a problem running two threads, as long as people know that this is the thread for speculation, and a mix of informal information/disinformation.
people should go to vanillacoin.net and the official forum to find out about releases.
sr. member
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No TX Fees #JustRaiBlocks
retweet:

https://twitter.com/moneyisdigital/status/678600809899237378

@ErikVoorhees @ShapeShift_io Why haven't you added the only altcoin that only needs 1 conf on @Poloniex? Means Polo judges it the safest alt

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